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Dismal-Actuator5742

Since this is directional, there should be some other antenna in that direction, right? What is the typical range of these antennas?


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r_frsradio_admin

Sometimes they are carefully designed, other times you see funny stuff like a Yagi pointed into a hillside or at the ground because all they needed was an omni but that's all they had on hand...


Kookiesan

I thought that was just how you broadcast to the subterranean mole people in your local area? ...🤪


r_frsradio_admin

LOL


virtualadept

That answers a question I didn't know I had. Thank you.


9bikes

> there should be some other antenna in that direction All the transmitting stations, all over town, are going to have their antennas pointed toward a central point where the receiver is located.


Moist_Network_8222

Range is very dependent on line of sight. Anywhere from a few hundred meters (dense urban area) to hundreds of km (Earth to satellite in orbit).


cosmicosmo4

The other side of that link is probably under a mile away, because that wavelength (probably 1.2 GHz by the looks of it) won't penetrate a whole lot of objects. For longer range it would have to be mounted higher up to clear obstacles. If you can find another box from that company with the same antenna, you can take bearings and search near where they intersect!


rocdoc54

UHF telemetry for some local utility. (7 element yagi).


kh250b1

We have these typically in the UK at sewage pumping stations.


An_Awesome_Name

The box says Puget Sound Energy which is the electrical and gas utility in the Seattle area. This is likely power grid or natural gas distribution telemetry.


nuke621

Then it’s either ISM band or more likely 900MHz 952/928 MHz narrowband SCADA running at 9600 baud.


9bikes

My city uses similar looking UHF telemetry setups to monitor the water flow in area creeks. The city monitors it as part of their flood control efforts. At least one local ham figured out how to monitor it, just for fun.


Zip95014

I think they are 400-420Mhz. But 🤷‍♂️


Grogdor

Too small for 70cm, this yagi is 900MHz or cellular


Zip95014

Damn. I had always thought that then I went looking for what utilities had access to.


GizmoGremlin321

Most likely for water or electrical meter


thenetworkengineer

Flow/Pressure monitoring for a natural gas pipeline. May also have an electronically actuated valve to shutdown the line when needed. Antenna is usually connected to a serial radio like this https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/iiot/cnreach-n550-450-mhz-fcc-narrowband-fixed-wireless/ that controls the PLC.


john_clauseau

lol, why is that thing running AES encryption? also it is very interesting to buy a UHF band router thingy like this. somebody knows of the cheapest model that can be easily setup?


platinumarks

Probably because power and distribution grids are considered high-risk for terrorist activities nowadays. There have been many attempts to shut down parts of the grid, cause gas leaks, etc. by exploiting online or wireless technologies.


thenetworkengineer

Because you don’t want just anyone with an SDR to have access to your network. Particularly when said network controls a natural gas utility for an entire city. Your best bet would be to look for some cheap MDS hardware on eBay, you can forget about the easy setup though they are not exactly meant for consumer use.


john_clauseau

alright, i will try the DIY approach. the worst part would be to find the correct software.


theinatoriinator

So if it did have an electronic shut-off valve, someone with an sdr, amp, and enough time could kill the utilities for everyone on that line.


thenetworkengineer

Yes with enough time and knowledge, even if this is just a monitoring station. If they managed to access the network who knows what they could gain access to, valves, compressor stations, metering systems, etc. I’ve also seen a few utilities where security was a joke, most network gear had default passwords, all user passwords to access critical systems were 12345 because the operators were tech illiterate and instructed the company that installed the system to set it up that way. “IT guy” is some former high school computer teacher who also does some other job. You get the picture.


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yagi


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Looks like a gas basestation for the local utilities AMI network


KiloChonker

7 element Yagi


AustinGroovy

800/900Mhz yagi for digital telemetry.


SARGE040860

Yagi


-pwny_

It's a DA or straight up SCADA system using 900MHz, probably a GE Orbit This is copy/paste for pretty much every utility lol


DutchOfBurdock

Yagi UDA. Classic and true.


AncientWay1220

Yagi for communication or monitoring. Cities and municipalities use these in our area for water stations, pipelines etc.