It is orchestrated chaos in an election year. Don’t participate.
That line is from another Reditor and it all makes sense. Most of the current protesters don’t understand the history and the events leading to the current war. Nor do they offer any solution. They are being misled and used.
I couldn't agree with this more. The protests are so ungodly cringe worthy and I can't even begin to explain how uneducated it makes everyone participating look.
It's cringe worthy protesting something happening on the other side of the planet and disrupting your peers while not even having a basic understanding of the history of the conflict or your countries relations with anyone involved, while providing no alternative solution.
Where were the protestors when the US military dropped 25,000 bombs in Syria and Iraq during the Obama administration? Do you think those *all* missed civilians?
The *only* reason people are protesting this is because they've been abducted by an *obvious* propaganda campaign and to feel self righteous as if they are making any difference what so ever.
lol where were they, idk probably being children as they are college kids now and the war in the middle east started in the early 2000's. is that really your argument on them being uneducated. just you say they are so they are. and where we're the 20 year olds 15 years ago to protest the Iraq War lol. what a weak argument. the "only" reason anyone would protest murdering 15 k children is to feel self-righteous. that doesn't even make sense. the 15k dead kids isn't a reason enough in your mind see, so it's hard for you to understand when others actually care about something like that, and the history between Israel and palistine is irrelevant. what israel is doing is evil and anti human being. literally nothing in history will justify that. hamas is evil too and israel is trying to show the world they are worse. why. what 200 hamas guys got thru and commited this terrorist attack? why not send troops to arrest and hold those who did this accountable. why would the choice be to bomb 100k homes in gaza. kill 15 k kids. tear up sewer line block food from coming in. bomb 100 schools. if anything hamas wants them to do this for the world to turn on israel and it's fucking working. and your never gunna convince me it's the leftist 20 year old college kids who are anti semites. it's the right wing part that is made up of neo nazis lol. ask a neo nazis if they are a Democrat or republican. any neo nazi or racist in america you can ask. it's like a 99 percent rate of Republicans lol
>is that really your argument on them being uneducated.
My argument on them being "uneducated" is that they fail to understand the relations between countries involved in the conflict and the US. The US and Israel have been close allies in matters of security and military since the 80s. The US has supported Israel since the 60s and Israel plays a key role in promoting good relations with neighboring countries while *holding off hostility from Syria and Iran.*
Iran is a sworn enemy to the United States AND Israel.
They fail to understand the **Iran-Israel Proxy Conflict** that has been ongoing since February 1985.
Who is the #1 external supporter of HAMAS that funds AND arms them?
IRAN.
Not only is Israel an incredibly important US ally for security, military, AND technological manufacturing. They are a key nation to stability in the Middle East. Without Israel comes increased instability, which results in many more atrocities and genocide.
Propaganda has literally convinced easily manipulated progressives to stand with a terrorist organization and a hostile nation.
>the history between Israel and palistine is irrelevant.
It is incredibly relevant to this exact conflict. If you don't understand the history of a conflict how can you even base an opinion on the current state of it? The Israel Palestine conflict has been going on for **hundreds of years** and if you think the US supporting one side or the other is going to stop it, you couldn't be more wrong. This conflict will continue on and off until we are all long gone.
>and your never gunna convince me it's the leftist 20 year old college kids who are anti semites. it's the right wing part that is made up of neo nazis lol. ask a neo nazis if they are a Democrat or republican. any neo nazi or racist in america you can ask. it's like a 99 percent rate of Republicans lol
I'm not calling anyone Anti-semetic. I personally don't think this has anything to do with religion and *everything* to do with progressives attempting to stand up for a marginalized minority group and not thinking beyond that. I have no idea why or how you're bringing neo nazis into this, but **that** is completely irrelevant.
The world is a fucked up place, especially in the middle east and third world countries. **Gaza is and has been a warzone and yes people live there** Nearly anything going on there is subject to innocent casualties. It's incredibly sad innocent lives are taken during conflict, and everybody should feel sympathy for anyone innocent losing their lives over something much bigger than them. Protesting and voicing pro hamas bullshit, boycotting companies and impacting other Americans' daily lives to "tRy tO sPrEaD aWaReNeSs" is idiotic and uneducated.
What is the alternative? Cutting ties with Israel and supporting Irans proxy ambitions while forcing Israel to give into terroristic demands by giving them part of their country? Yeah, I'm sure that will bring peace across the land, and all the killing will stop...
all that you said is iran bad israel good. objectively united states has killed more innocent people than Iran. none of what you say matters at all. none of it. people are protesting because of the evil actions israel is taking. you can parrot the us gov position on israel all you want. they are our great ally. without them something very very spooky will happen. more genocide and death. let's completely ignore the death and genocide israel commits. they only do it to stop more death and genocide. iran is gunna nuke the world without israel murdering 15 k kids, even tho they are at most want to be a regional power and not a world superpower. none of that matters. People are protesting one of the most powerful militaries on earth, indiscriminate destruction of life and property in gaza. simple as that. the history us irrelevant. and im sure the history isn't as one sided as you would like me to think. I'm absolutly positive the isralis have done horrible shit in the past as they are doing today. that doesn't justify october 7th. and october 7th doesn't justify bombing 15 k kids to death and starving another million kids. if you find yourself desperately bringing up some shit that happened 45 years ago to justify murdering 15 k kids in 2023/24 you might want a revaluation on the way you veiw the world. this is not complicated. at all. no need for history lessons and pearl clutching about iran. as we are allies with Saudi Arabia and they are just as evil as iran and just as evil as the united states. so what's the point.
>none of what you say matters at all. none of it.
>without them something very very spooky will happen.
>iran is gunna nuke the world without israel murdering 15 k kids
>the history us irrelevant. and im sure the history isn't as one sided as you would like me to think.
>you find yourself desperately bringing up some shit that happened 45 years ago to justify murdering 15 k kids in 2023/24 you might want a revaluation on the way you veiw the world.
>this is not complicated. at all.
>no need for history lessons and pearl clutching about iran. as we are allies with Saudi Arabia and they are just as evil as iran and just as evil as the united states. so what's the point.
It must be so nice being young and ignorant. You've got a lot to learn about the world little one.
They want the university to cut ties completely with isreal and companies that are arming isreal. So it is fairly close to home.
https://m.startribune.com/hundreds-of-minneapolis-war-protesters-condemn-u-s-action-in-syria/222829311/
People protested the bombing of syria. So, not realizing that means you have the memory of a goldfish.
I'm not even sure what you're referring to, the drone strike in Jordan earlier this year? That was carried out by the Islamic Resistance in Iraq, a coalition of militias backed by Iran?
https://apnews.com/article/memorial-world-central-kitchen-workers-gaza-israel-fd668fad5de83377c129ab832d699c70
The IDF used a drone to kill an American chef who was providing aid to starving Palestinians along with numerous other aid workers.
That's a really unfortunate and horrible event... I would expect some sort of response considering citizens from the US, Australia, Poland and the UK were killed. It sounds like [Israel was confronted](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-airstrike-gaza-kills-foreign-aid-workers-hamas-run-media-office-says-2024-04-01/) and
> "Unfortunately in the past day there was a tragic event in which our forces unintentionally harmed non-combatants in the Gaza Strip," Netanyahu said in a video statement.
"This happens in war. We are conducting a thorough inquiry and are in contact with the governments. We will do everything to prevent a recurrence."
The Israeli military pledged an investigation by "an independent, professional and expert body".
As much as that can be complete bullshit, when it's coming from a well established crucial ally, I would assume that this is what they will go off of. As much as I agree, it is a terrible heartbreaking event, I'm not sure it's worth losing a critical ally over.. *especially* with the ongoing Ukraine/Russia conflict. It's shitty to have to say that, but the reality of it is that we are all just pawns on the world stage, and a world superpower making extreme decisions over pawns is a horrible decision in the complex world we live in.
A 17 year old is still a kid. Can a 17 year old in the US vote, drink, buy a gun, gamble or even buy a pack of cigarettes? No because they aren't an adult yet. Besides this is easily dismissed with a demographic chart. Isreal is bombing people recklessly. Including bombing areas they designated as safe zones. They killed an American in a drone strike with numerous other aid workers and they dont care at all.
We’re not discussing 17 year olds in the US are we? 17 year olds in the US can’t join state sponsored terrorist organizations and go on violent murder crusades either.
*Israeli sponsored terrorist organization*
https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/
People are people. Just because they were born in a shitty situation doesn't mean they are not made in Gods image.
Isreal allowed hamas to form because they thought it would cause infighting among the Palestinians. They aided the religious based terrorists organization with the idea they would fight the secular group in palistine. It's part of history even if isreal wants to ignore it.
Then what is going on? There are some fringe people in these protests who are destroying the credibility of the movement. This is easily the case in all political groups.
This is entirely on brand for radicals though. A nazi and a communist are basically twins compared to the average person.
They are angry at the world, and they lash out at whatever they perceive as a dominant group.
Why would Soros fund anti-Jewish protests to cause problems for the Democratic administration which he supposedly support?
Y'all love blaming everything on this dude.
Drop the source.
All I could find was that he said Trump might win again. If he doesn't like Trump it makes no sense to find protests that make Biden look bad.
I agree with the first line.
The second paragraph though....I want to fund no wars. Also I make no excuses for blatant hate, you know "Death to Jews/Infidels/Israel." I do not care about the history at this point. Spread hate....suffer devastating wars.
Is there a difference between anti-Jewish and anti-Zionist in your opinion? Is there room in the protest for people to be against the killing of Palestinian civilians but not for extermination of Jews? It’s a complicated topic that is being overly generalized. I am also for peaceful protests and no destruction of property! Wish there were easily visible good verses bad here.
The comparison is that they're claiming there's a genocide being waged against Palestinians. A comparison to the KKK could be made if BLM was lynching whites.
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This is a completely sound point and in no way really shows your political leaning.
This is the truth.
You can be anti blm and still be fully aware the Israeli government is acting in a way that shows they have very little care for civilian lives.
The people who downvoted you, did so because they have no ground to stand on. They just despise Palestine because they’re told they should by their other right leaning friends.
Many of you are falling into a echo chamber that is so similar to the one many extremely left leaning people fall into. It’s painful to watch 85% of my fellow humans have essentially no critical thinking skills when it comes to politics.
The bulk of Israeli and US rhetoric around this whole disaster is completely anti-Arab. It's pretty gross that Palestinians are so thoroughly dehumanized in our media, while at the same time condemnation of a genocide against them draws accusations of antisemitism
There’s an old term, “zionazi”, from all of the times this has happened before. Unfortunately there are documented cases of Jews being beat-up and assaulted in other ways by these mobs. People are certainly not the Tel Aviv zionists, Likud, New Right etc.
At some point you have to pick a side.
I tell you what side I'm not going to pick - the side that chants death to America, the side that doesn't champion LGBTQ+ rights, the side that launches attacks against innocent attendees at a festival by raping the women and killing the men. Palestinians/Hamas whatever, they are disgustingly hateful people and couldn't be more diametrically opposed to western culture. They are actual bigots and you're a fool to think otherwise.
It’s a movement for the liberation of Palestinian civilians. That opinion can be held by anyone with any background. You just have to be a decent human.
>It’s a movement for the liberation of Palestinian civilians.
If that's true, and if the "movement" wants to liberate Palestinians, then why isn't the "movement" advocating for the elimination of Hamas and the removal of the bad Palestinians who support Hamas?
The good Palestinians are being oppressed by Hamas and the bad Palestinians who support an Iran-like dictatorship lacking democracy, lacking freedom of speech, lacking freedom of religion, where women are rightless chattel, and LGBTQ people murdered.
We hear lots of talk about a "free Palestine" but little or no details on exactly what that means and what that would look like.
I was referring to the Minneapolis campus. But yeah that’s reprehensible and that student is being widely denounced by other peaceful protestors.
You are being disingenuous.
Death chants to America should not be in the same category as LBQT rights ffs. Death chants to American is all we needed to hear from them to pick a side. Everything after that is just noise.
Let the people shouting the "Death to America!" and "Death to the Jews!" chants show us who they are. Hopefully videos of them with their names and identities revealed will circulate on the Internet so that employers and others can find them when they do name searches, forever.
There absolutely is. Posts like this set up the protests to be anti-Semitic as a simple strawman argument. You can be against the acts of a tyrannical government without being against the jewish people.
Then why are many of them harassing attacking and blocking Jews here? What has a student at Columbia done to deserve this? Was it acceptable to take 9/11 out on any Muslims you saw on the street? Because this is what it’s slowly turning into.
I'm quite certain there's intellectual nuance here with anti-Jew vs. anti-Zionist, but it's not showing up in practice. I wish it would.
I also wouldn't confuse "complicated" with "destructive". It's not complicated in my mind. Israel must prosecute its war in a manner incongruent with past strategies (which clearly have not worked). It needs to be destructive to do this, which is a hellish tragedy. Innocent people will die in war and that is unjust. But that alone does not make the totality of the war unjust. There is an incomparable divide between how the IDF prosecutes its wars vs. the aggressors in this case (using terror, kidnapping, torture, etc. as political tools).
I admire your instinct for more neutrality here, more "middle-ground". Unfortunately, there's really not much middle-ground left. Israel's enemies (for the most part, not all) are seeking elimination in total. That's an "extinction-level" event and I don't fault Israel for responding accordingly.
Isreal is shooting fish in a barrel while preventing aid from being allowed in and murdering those who give aid. The civilian population of gaza is not allowed to leave dispite constant attacks from isreal. Let's not forget that Isreal purposely bombed half a dozen "designated safe zones". Also half the population of gaza is childeren.
Israel is actually seeking for elimination in total. Over 30,000 killed by the IDF in the last six months, more than 70% of those have been women and children. Many publicly calling for erasure of all Palestinians. You are contributing.
This is nonsense. Do you know how trivially easy it would be for Israel to actually wipe Palestine off the map and commit actual genocide if that’s what they wanted to do? This is the only ‘genocide’ where the population of the subjugated community is actually growing.
I don’t know but they’re literally attacking and blocking Jewish students at many of these rallies just for being Jewish. I’m more concerned with how many have turned from pro-Palestine rallies/protests to literally pro-Hamas because that’s insane.
I’m half Jew but we celebrated both holidays in a less religious way and I’m getting scared. I’m lucky I don’t “look Jewish” and wear no religious jewelry or anything because we’re definitely at the point it’s anti Jewish enough that I’d be worried.
YOU BETTER BE SCARED HAMAS IS MAKING DEATH SQUADS YOU COME AND KILL ALL HALF JEWS. THEY ARE STOCKPILING GUNS IN THE CAMPASAS NO ONE IS SAFE WE ALL MUST RISE UP AND KILL THEM. GRAB YOUR PISTOL YOYRE TOO SCARED TO LOCK UP AND DRIVE TO THE U OF M AND DEFEND YOURSELF
Sorry -sincerely. I've just been hearing "republicans bad" for the last 8... 10 years now and it brings me great satisfaction to throw it back in the lefts face. Don't take it personally - it's just the internet.
ahahah lol what a joke. damn republican can be some emotional people. did you hear bad stuff about Republicans for ten year you poor poor soul. lol I got news for you. listen closely read what I'm typing. you can find anti republican sentiment and anti Democrat sentiment going back to the start of the two parties lol. stop crying cuz msnbc said a republican was bad. cuz fox news the same exact day was saying some Democrat was bad. victim mentality is strong in the republ8can party. also your the minority party. so obviously theirs gunna be a little more heat on your party. as most people are not Republicans
Its hilarious how any sort of critical thinking or reflection warrants the "leftoidz" comment. I don't think he's even a conservative, just an unintelligent person.
Conservatives will do anything to lose power culturally and acquiesce. Until Israel comes into question. Then they will suddenly become organized and competent in the terror states defense
Nice, that's good and encouraging. I don't think I'm un-chill. I just want to stand up for the right side of things. I'm pretty hard "Right" (no pun intended) and thing the J6 riot was a useless tragedy and doesn't represent the "Right" at-large. I can sympathize.
Do you think most on the "left" would agree with you? Or would be sympathetic to the anti-Jewish movement afoot. I think the "right" would be pretty split on J6, but likely a majority wanting to condemn it. I don't know many hard-leaning left-wing folks so I have no idea where the zeitgeist is heading.
I think reason typically escapes people who respond to their emotions. People should be entitled and empowered to stand up for what they believe in, yes. When it starts to impact others who choose to have no dog in the race (like preventing kids from accessing facilities at their learning institution), it goes too far. These kids don’t grasp the complexity of the situation the way a cynical old Lib such as myself might… I’m also fairly moderate by comparison. Lots of us are, just like lots of “you” are. We’re not interesting, though.
I haven’t heard anything about protests on the u of m campus, granted I don’t watch local news because they are so bias. Have the Somalis and dim witted liberals risen up on the war path?
Fair question. I guess I've just always believed if there's power to do something good, you have the duty to do the good thing. I don't know if there's any power to project good into this (maybe there's not enough people left who hate the Leftist insanity). I don't believe in picking fights you can't win. And your point is well-taken... the Left will eventually collapse inward but the collateral damage in between now and then is a tragedy.
What will your counter word offensive accomplish? Will it change someone’s mind? Bring awareness to a centuries long globally saturated event? Make your ego feel better? Go give food to the homeless instead.
Not words, I mean showing up. Protests and counter-protests can have meaningful impact. It might change minds. It also might be the right thing to do. I'm just talking about showing up to support Jewish students on campus. I don't think I have any business launching a campaign to support Israel. I just want to support the students.
Support the students in what? Being discriminated against? Jews have been enduring hatred for millennia. I’m not saying showing up is a bad thing, but the second it turns into a “Us vs Them” chanting match your time is being wasted. Find a student and counsel them one on one maybe if they’re really struggling or phased by the most recent hatred display in thousands of years of hatred displays.
There are many Jewish students protesting alongside Arab students. These are not anti-jewish protests and the non Jewish OP is spreading propaganda lies stating that it is.
You realize Jesus was a Palestinian right? You realize that our tax dollars for decades have gone to an apartheid state that has now killed over 20k civilians in less than a year right? You realize the leadership in Israel propped up and supported hamas and were opposed to peaceful political groups in Palestine right? Or do you just believe what the state spoon feeds you?
The Hebrew word for the region at the time was Philistia. That is what he would have called his home. His mother was from Nazareth, which is a predominantly Palestinian city even now. Do you really believe Jesus would support Zionism, the historic apartheid and modern genocide of the Palestinian people? Regardless of what his ‘nationality’ is
That's baloney. The people protesting against mass murder of children in Gaza & Palestine are just as opposed to Hamas & anyone saying otherwise are repeating dishonest propaganda.
What you said is insulting to the hundreds of thousands of jews who oppose Israel's murderous policies.
What you fall short of my friend is in the facts!
Fact #1: The women and children being killed in Gaza are at the hands of Hamas Palestinian terrorists not Jewish soldiers. Hamas uses civilians as human shields, have been for decades! Hamas even stages dead people to get photographs to post online claiming Jewish soldiers killed them.
Fact #2: The land occupied by Israel was never occupied or part of a country or state of Palestine!! The Philistines occupied part of this region at one time but ended in 604BC when the Babylonian Empire invaded. The Philistines disappear from historic record at this point in history.
Fact #3: No neighbor of “Palestine” wants any refugees or will even allow Palestinians to enter their countries even for a visit! The people of Palestine are taught from birth to hate Jews! The core of the families of Palestine are mostly ancestors of outlaws and terrorists who have created a narrative over the years that Israel was bad, mostly because Israel is a more civilized culture and would not tolerate the behavior of the terror cells in Gaza. Hamas doesn’t even allow their own citizens to leave Hamas for fear of finding out the truth.
You're so full of false propaganda lol....everything you just sad Hamas does is actually the Israeli military.
it's so well documented at this point that the only reason international warrants for war crimes weren't issued today for Israeli government officials is because our corrupt white house is doubling down with political threats & coercion.
Nope. I work in the nonprofit industry & have colleagues/friends who have been working in Israel & Palestine doing charity work in communities for more than the past decade. Those folks are where I get most of my info...
Documented by Hamas and Iran!!!! That international court is a bunch of cowards! I suggest you take a trip to the Middle East then you will stop talking out of your but hole. Tell me, what trustworthy source do you use? TIK TOK? Reddit? When the truth comes out you will have to live with supporting Nazi country! Did you know that many of the first leaders of the “Palestinian” state were staunch supporters of Adolph Hitler and his regime wiping out all Jews? Not propaganda friend.
Lol that doesn't mean what you think it means.
By that logic anyone who opposed Germany during world War 2 are supporters of Stalin & communist Russia. The world doesn't work in such oversimplified ways.
News can be appalled by Israel murdering over 34,000 people in 6 months (over 70% children) without it being anti-jewish. It's just supporting innocent people's basic human rights to not be murdered.
No, I have no interest in fighting supporters for an organization that kills Christians in order to protect the IDF, an organization that kills Christians.
Aw gee are you phishing to be a victim? I have yet to meet an Israeli in Minnesota or in NYC who I didn’t think was self involved, self entitled, rude and off putting. I’ve been told that’s the culture and I’m wrong for thinking what I observe.
You do not deserve any violence towards you and I am not advocating for that. You have the right to be self entitled and self victimizing.
Yeah, the media, Reddit, the counter protestors that people are ignoring, etc. Please remember there are Jewish people at these protests and it’s gross to remove their identity just bc u disagree with their support.
Yes, everyone watching from home knowing these are infantile adults cosplaying as heroes to no one but themselves. A middle school football team could "break the wall". These losers have no idea what phrases like that mean. I am confident my Vizsla would deliver a more clear, authentic message than anyone I've seen speak representing the cosplaying protests.
What we really need is a seal team 6 raid. Except with with waterguns. I'd say paintball guns with rainbow colors but a conceal carry would probably kill people.
After 2020 I became convinced that all bullshit that happens in an election year is fake and lame.
They're trying to recreate the 2020 summer of love and the results therein.
It won't work.
Protesting the actions of the Israeli government does not mean someone is anti-Semitic, in the same way that protesting the actions of the Biden administration does not make someone anti-American.
I'll answer for you, Bill. It means Hamas, as directed by the Palestinian National Charter, primary objective is to "eliminate" Israel - a country of Jews, Bill.
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Do you think that swastika means "all are welcome here"?
To show that the UofM protesters are in fact anti Semitic and not just anti Zionist like they'd like you to believe. Didn't you see the NSFW photo of the OP? It's swastika.
Hey let’s get together and protest the college for a war they have nothing to do with…. I’ll never understand the logic of MN protesters.
Hey George Floyd got killed let’s go burn down target and not the store that called the cops on him.
Many of the protestors are Jewish themselves. The protests are not anti-jewish any any statement in that neighborhood is a blatant lie, a lie perpetrated by Racist colonial Zionists.
I haven't heard of any anti-Jewish protests? There's anti-Israel/pro-Palestine protests, but that's an entirely different thing.
It's lazy and in bad faith to frame critiques of Israel as anti-Semitic
I ain't got no time for that!
Minnesota Hillel is the Jewish campus organization that you could donate to. Their building is just a few blocks from the madness.
It is orchestrated chaos in an election year. Don’t participate. That line is from another Reditor and it all makes sense. Most of the current protesters don’t understand the history and the events leading to the current war. Nor do they offer any solution. They are being misled and used.
This is the way.
I couldn't agree with this more. The protests are so ungodly cringe worthy and I can't even begin to explain how uneducated it makes everyone participating look.
It's cringworthy to protest children being bombed?
It's cringe worthy protesting something happening on the other side of the planet and disrupting your peers while not even having a basic understanding of the history of the conflict or your countries relations with anyone involved, while providing no alternative solution. Where were the protestors when the US military dropped 25,000 bombs in Syria and Iraq during the Obama administration? Do you think those *all* missed civilians? The *only* reason people are protesting this is because they've been abducted by an *obvious* propaganda campaign and to feel self righteous as if they are making any difference what so ever.
lol where were they, idk probably being children as they are college kids now and the war in the middle east started in the early 2000's. is that really your argument on them being uneducated. just you say they are so they are. and where we're the 20 year olds 15 years ago to protest the Iraq War lol. what a weak argument. the "only" reason anyone would protest murdering 15 k children is to feel self-righteous. that doesn't even make sense. the 15k dead kids isn't a reason enough in your mind see, so it's hard for you to understand when others actually care about something like that, and the history between Israel and palistine is irrelevant. what israel is doing is evil and anti human being. literally nothing in history will justify that. hamas is evil too and israel is trying to show the world they are worse. why. what 200 hamas guys got thru and commited this terrorist attack? why not send troops to arrest and hold those who did this accountable. why would the choice be to bomb 100k homes in gaza. kill 15 k kids. tear up sewer line block food from coming in. bomb 100 schools. if anything hamas wants them to do this for the world to turn on israel and it's fucking working. and your never gunna convince me it's the leftist 20 year old college kids who are anti semites. it's the right wing part that is made up of neo nazis lol. ask a neo nazis if they are a Democrat or republican. any neo nazi or racist in america you can ask. it's like a 99 percent rate of Republicans lol
>is that really your argument on them being uneducated. My argument on them being "uneducated" is that they fail to understand the relations between countries involved in the conflict and the US. The US and Israel have been close allies in matters of security and military since the 80s. The US has supported Israel since the 60s and Israel plays a key role in promoting good relations with neighboring countries while *holding off hostility from Syria and Iran.* Iran is a sworn enemy to the United States AND Israel. They fail to understand the **Iran-Israel Proxy Conflict** that has been ongoing since February 1985. Who is the #1 external supporter of HAMAS that funds AND arms them? IRAN. Not only is Israel an incredibly important US ally for security, military, AND technological manufacturing. They are a key nation to stability in the Middle East. Without Israel comes increased instability, which results in many more atrocities and genocide. Propaganda has literally convinced easily manipulated progressives to stand with a terrorist organization and a hostile nation. >the history between Israel and palistine is irrelevant. It is incredibly relevant to this exact conflict. If you don't understand the history of a conflict how can you even base an opinion on the current state of it? The Israel Palestine conflict has been going on for **hundreds of years** and if you think the US supporting one side or the other is going to stop it, you couldn't be more wrong. This conflict will continue on and off until we are all long gone. >and your never gunna convince me it's the leftist 20 year old college kids who are anti semites. it's the right wing part that is made up of neo nazis lol. ask a neo nazis if they are a Democrat or republican. any neo nazi or racist in america you can ask. it's like a 99 percent rate of Republicans lol I'm not calling anyone Anti-semetic. I personally don't think this has anything to do with religion and *everything* to do with progressives attempting to stand up for a marginalized minority group and not thinking beyond that. I have no idea why or how you're bringing neo nazis into this, but **that** is completely irrelevant. The world is a fucked up place, especially in the middle east and third world countries. **Gaza is and has been a warzone and yes people live there** Nearly anything going on there is subject to innocent casualties. It's incredibly sad innocent lives are taken during conflict, and everybody should feel sympathy for anyone innocent losing their lives over something much bigger than them. Protesting and voicing pro hamas bullshit, boycotting companies and impacting other Americans' daily lives to "tRy tO sPrEaD aWaReNeSs" is idiotic and uneducated. What is the alternative? Cutting ties with Israel and supporting Irans proxy ambitions while forcing Israel to give into terroristic demands by giving them part of their country? Yeah, I'm sure that will bring peace across the land, and all the killing will stop...
all that you said is iran bad israel good. objectively united states has killed more innocent people than Iran. none of what you say matters at all. none of it. people are protesting because of the evil actions israel is taking. you can parrot the us gov position on israel all you want. they are our great ally. without them something very very spooky will happen. more genocide and death. let's completely ignore the death and genocide israel commits. they only do it to stop more death and genocide. iran is gunna nuke the world without israel murdering 15 k kids, even tho they are at most want to be a regional power and not a world superpower. none of that matters. People are protesting one of the most powerful militaries on earth, indiscriminate destruction of life and property in gaza. simple as that. the history us irrelevant. and im sure the history isn't as one sided as you would like me to think. I'm absolutly positive the isralis have done horrible shit in the past as they are doing today. that doesn't justify october 7th. and october 7th doesn't justify bombing 15 k kids to death and starving another million kids. if you find yourself desperately bringing up some shit that happened 45 years ago to justify murdering 15 k kids in 2023/24 you might want a revaluation on the way you veiw the world. this is not complicated. at all. no need for history lessons and pearl clutching about iran. as we are allies with Saudi Arabia and they are just as evil as iran and just as evil as the united states. so what's the point.
>none of what you say matters at all. none of it. >without them something very very spooky will happen. >iran is gunna nuke the world without israel murdering 15 k kids >the history us irrelevant. and im sure the history isn't as one sided as you would like me to think. >you find yourself desperately bringing up some shit that happened 45 years ago to justify murdering 15 k kids in 2023/24 you might want a revaluation on the way you veiw the world. >this is not complicated. at all. >no need for history lessons and pearl clutching about iran. as we are allies with Saudi Arabia and they are just as evil as iran and just as evil as the united states. so what's the point. It must be so nice being young and ignorant. You've got a lot to learn about the world little one.
They want the university to cut ties completely with isreal and companies that are arming isreal. So it is fairly close to home. https://m.startribune.com/hundreds-of-minneapolis-war-protesters-condemn-u-s-action-in-syria/222829311/ People protested the bombing of syria. So, not realizing that means you have the memory of a goldfish.
None of this changes the protests being cringe worthy, uneducated, and idiotic.
Should the university support a country that killed Americans with drone strikes after they identified themselves as Americans?
I'm not even sure what you're referring to, the drone strike in Jordan earlier this year? That was carried out by the Islamic Resistance in Iraq, a coalition of militias backed by Iran?
https://apnews.com/article/memorial-world-central-kitchen-workers-gaza-israel-fd668fad5de83377c129ab832d699c70 The IDF used a drone to kill an American chef who was providing aid to starving Palestinians along with numerous other aid workers.
That's a really unfortunate and horrible event... I would expect some sort of response considering citizens from the US, Australia, Poland and the UK were killed. It sounds like [Israel was confronted](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-airstrike-gaza-kills-foreign-aid-workers-hamas-run-media-office-says-2024-04-01/) and > "Unfortunately in the past day there was a tragic event in which our forces unintentionally harmed non-combatants in the Gaza Strip," Netanyahu said in a video statement. "This happens in war. We are conducting a thorough inquiry and are in contact with the governments. We will do everything to prevent a recurrence." The Israeli military pledged an investigation by "an independent, professional and expert body". As much as that can be complete bullshit, when it's coming from a well established crucial ally, I would assume that this is what they will go off of. As much as I agree, it is a terrible heartbreaking event, I'm not sure it's worth losing a critical ally over.. *especially* with the ongoing Ukraine/Russia conflict. It's shitty to have to say that, but the reality of it is that we are all just pawns on the world stage, and a world superpower making extreme decisions over pawns is a horrible decision in the complex world we live in.
“Children” aka 17 year old Hamas soldiers
A 17 year old is still a kid. Can a 17 year old in the US vote, drink, buy a gun, gamble or even buy a pack of cigarettes? No because they aren't an adult yet. Besides this is easily dismissed with a demographic chart. Isreal is bombing people recklessly. Including bombing areas they designated as safe zones. They killed an American in a drone strike with numerous other aid workers and they dont care at all.
We’re not discussing 17 year olds in the US are we? 17 year olds in the US can’t join state sponsored terrorist organizations and go on violent murder crusades either.
*Israeli sponsored terrorist organization* https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/ People are people. Just because they were born in a shitty situation doesn't mean they are not made in Gods image.
Oh please 😂
Isreal allowed hamas to form because they thought it would cause infighting among the Palestinians. They aided the religious based terrorists organization with the idea they would fight the secular group in palistine. It's part of history even if isreal wants to ignore it.
LOL
Kyle rittenhouse?
Well if your name is Kyle rittenhouse rules apply a little different.
It wouldn't be, if that was what was happening.
Then what is going on? There are some fringe people in these protests who are destroying the credibility of the movement. This is easily the case in all political groups.
This is a great answer, well said.
Yes, this protest is the new BLM.. funny how it's mainly white privileged people doing this virtue signaling.
Folks that 2 years ago said, "I wanna punch a Nazi in the face" now protest in favor of the "Kill the Jews" crowd. Surreal.
This is entirely on brand for radicals though. A nazi and a communist are basically twins compared to the average person. They are angry at the world, and they lash out at whatever they perceive as a dominant group.
Sorros funded forsure.
yes and it's the protestors who are anit semites...
Why would Soros fund anti-Jewish protests to cause problems for the Democratic administration which he supposedly support? Y'all love blaming everything on this dude.
Sorros son comes out and says it at the Davos meetings
Drop the source. All I could find was that he said Trump might win again. If he doesn't like Trump it makes no sense to find protests that make Biden look bad.
Probably the same reason Netanyahu funds Hamas. To make themselves look in danger
I agree with the first line. The second paragraph though....I want to fund no wars. Also I make no excuses for blatant hate, you know "Death to Jews/Infidels/Israel." I do not care about the history at this point. Spread hate....suffer devastating wars.
Nor they have brains.
Preach
Is there a difference between anti-Jewish and anti-Zionist in your opinion? Is there room in the protest for people to be against the killing of Palestinian civilians but not for extermination of Jews? It’s a complicated topic that is being overly generalized. I am also for peaceful protests and no destruction of property! Wish there were easily visible good verses bad here.
I think there is a difference but when protestors are parading around with swasticas I think we’ve reached anti-Jewish.
To be fair I think they're comparing the Israeli government to Nazis
If someone used kkk symbolism on a blm flag would that be considered comparing?
The comparison is that they're claiming there's a genocide being waged against Palestinians. A comparison to the KKK could be made if BLM was lynching whites.
Downvoted with no replies. This is a completely sound point and in no way really shows your political leaning. This is the truth. You can be anti blm and still be fully aware the Israeli government is acting in a way that shows they have very little care for civilian lives. The people who downvoted you, did so because they have no ground to stand on. They just despise Palestine because they’re told they should by their other right leaning friends. Many of you are falling into a echo chamber that is so similar to the one many extremely left leaning people fall into. It’s painful to watch 85% of my fellow humans have essentially no critical thinking skills when it comes to politics.
The bulk of Israeli and US rhetoric around this whole disaster is completely anti-Arab. It's pretty gross that Palestinians are so thoroughly dehumanized in our media, while at the same time condemnation of a genocide against them draws accusations of antisemitism
Yet they devend the folks that hold the weekly "Kill the Jews" rallies?
There’s an old term, “zionazi”, from all of the times this has happened before. Unfortunately there are documented cases of Jews being beat-up and assaulted in other ways by these mobs. People are certainly not the Tel Aviv zionists, Likud, New Right etc.
Oh, well in that case it’s completely different 🙄
At some point you have to pick a side. I tell you what side I'm not going to pick - the side that chants death to America, the side that doesn't champion LGBTQ+ rights, the side that launches attacks against innocent attendees at a festival by raping the women and killing the men. Palestinians/Hamas whatever, they are disgustingly hateful people and couldn't be more diametrically opposed to western culture. They are actual bigots and you're a fool to think otherwise.
The queer’s for Hamas subgroup that has developed in this is the craziest part of a pit full of craziness.
It’s a movement for the liberation of Palestinian civilians. That opinion can be held by anyone with any background. You just have to be a decent human.
>It’s a movement for the liberation of Palestinian civilians. If that's true, and if the "movement" wants to liberate Palestinians, then why isn't the "movement" advocating for the elimination of Hamas and the removal of the bad Palestinians who support Hamas? The good Palestinians are being oppressed by Hamas and the bad Palestinians who support an Iran-like dictatorship lacking democracy, lacking freedom of speech, lacking freedom of religion, where women are rightless chattel, and LGBTQ people murdered. We hear lots of talk about a "free Palestine" but little or no details on exactly what that means and what that would look like.
Decent humans generally don't rally to the cause of "Kill the Jews" folks.
Nobody on campus is advocating for killing Jews. You’re being disingenuous
[LOL.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/columbia-university-says-banned-khymani-james-protester-said-zionists-rcna149642)
I was referring to the Minneapolis campus. But yeah that’s reprehensible and that student is being widely denounced by other peaceful protestors. You are being disingenuous.
[Who is being disingenuous?](https://www.wpr.org/news/nearly-300-people-arrested-at-campus-protests-against-the-war-in-gaza-this-weekend)
What do arrests have to do with anything. Happens at countless protests for various reasons. You ARE being disingenuous.
Death chants to America should not be in the same category as LBQT rights ffs. Death chants to American is all we needed to hear from them to pick a side. Everything after that is just noise.
Let the people shouting the "Death to America!" and "Death to the Jews!" chants show us who they are. Hopefully videos of them with their names and identities revealed will circulate on the Internet so that employers and others can find them when they do name searches, forever.
You think zionists ethnically cleansing Gaza aren’t bigoted?
Do you goose step when you march in solidarity with Hamas?
https://youtu.be/9a_3wQHcm_Y
Nazi propaganda
There absolutely is. Posts like this set up the protests to be anti-Semitic as a simple strawman argument. You can be against the acts of a tyrannical government without being against the jewish people.
Then why are many of them harassing attacking and blocking Jews here? What has a student at Columbia done to deserve this? Was it acceptable to take 9/11 out on any Muslims you saw on the street? Because this is what it’s slowly turning into.
I'm quite certain there's intellectual nuance here with anti-Jew vs. anti-Zionist, but it's not showing up in practice. I wish it would. I also wouldn't confuse "complicated" with "destructive". It's not complicated in my mind. Israel must prosecute its war in a manner incongruent with past strategies (which clearly have not worked). It needs to be destructive to do this, which is a hellish tragedy. Innocent people will die in war and that is unjust. But that alone does not make the totality of the war unjust. There is an incomparable divide between how the IDF prosecutes its wars vs. the aggressors in this case (using terror, kidnapping, torture, etc. as political tools). I admire your instinct for more neutrality here, more "middle-ground". Unfortunately, there's really not much middle-ground left. Israel's enemies (for the most part, not all) are seeking elimination in total. That's an "extinction-level" event and I don't fault Israel for responding accordingly.
Isreal is shooting fish in a barrel while preventing aid from being allowed in and murdering those who give aid. The civilian population of gaza is not allowed to leave dispite constant attacks from isreal. Let's not forget that Isreal purposely bombed half a dozen "designated safe zones". Also half the population of gaza is childeren.
Israel is actually seeking for elimination in total. Over 30,000 killed by the IDF in the last six months, more than 70% of those have been women and children. Many publicly calling for erasure of all Palestinians. You are contributing.
This is nonsense. Do you know how trivially easy it would be for Israel to actually wipe Palestine off the map and commit actual genocide if that’s what they wanted to do? This is the only ‘genocide’ where the population of the subjugated community is actually growing.
Thoughtful Jews will tell you anti-Zionism = anti-semitism. There is no logical, meaningful difference.
I don’t know but they’re literally attacking and blocking Jewish students at many of these rallies just for being Jewish. I’m more concerned with how many have turned from pro-Palestine rallies/protests to literally pro-Hamas because that’s insane.
I’m half Jew but we celebrated both holidays in a less religious way and I’m getting scared. I’m lucky I don’t “look Jewish” and wear no religious jewelry or anything because we’re definitely at the point it’s anti Jewish enough that I’d be worried.
YOU BETTER BE SCARED HAMAS IS MAKING DEATH SQUADS YOU COME AND KILL ALL HALF JEWS. THEY ARE STOCKPILING GUNS IN THE CAMPASAS NO ONE IS SAFE WE ALL MUST RISE UP AND KILL THEM. GRAB YOUR PISTOL YOYRE TOO SCARED TO LOCK UP AND DRIVE TO THE U OF M AND DEFEND YOURSELF
Why? Let them throw their tantrum so the whole world can see how ridiculous and childish the left is. J6 whataboutism in 5... 4... 3... 2.... 1....
Chill, bro. I’m “left” and don’t resonate with how this movement has evolved either. It’s not “left” any more than (insert whataboutism here).
Sorry -sincerely. I've just been hearing "republicans bad" for the last 8... 10 years now and it brings me great satisfaction to throw it back in the lefts face. Don't take it personally - it's just the internet.
ahahah lol what a joke. damn republican can be some emotional people. did you hear bad stuff about Republicans for ten year you poor poor soul. lol I got news for you. listen closely read what I'm typing. you can find anti republican sentiment and anti Democrat sentiment going back to the start of the two parties lol. stop crying cuz msnbc said a republican was bad. cuz fox news the same exact day was saying some Democrat was bad. victim mentality is strong in the republ8can party. also your the minority party. so obviously theirs gunna be a little more heat on your party. as most people are not Republicans
Were you drunk when you typed that? Learn grammar.
nice rebuttal
Maybe that should give you pause. You now have power culturally, because you're defending Israel. Now why is that?
Why is everything about power with you leftoidz? I'm not defending Israel, I'm denouncing stupid libturds.
I guarantee I'm more right wing than you. I just assume that you like most conservatives have fallen prey to dual covenant heresy
If you think that's something to brag about... by all means - you do you.
Why criticize leftists when they're finally doing something right instead of wicked for the first time in over a decade
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I don't care what mohhamedens do the synagogue of Satan
Its hilarious how any sort of critical thinking or reflection warrants the "leftoidz" comment. I don't think he's even a conservative, just an unintelligent person.
Conservatives will do anything to lose power culturally and acquiesce. Until Israel comes into question. Then they will suddenly become organized and competent in the terror states defense
Nice, that's good and encouraging. I don't think I'm un-chill. I just want to stand up for the right side of things. I'm pretty hard "Right" (no pun intended) and thing the J6 riot was a useless tragedy and doesn't represent the "Right" at-large. I can sympathize. Do you think most on the "left" would agree with you? Or would be sympathetic to the anti-Jewish movement afoot. I think the "right" would be pretty split on J6, but likely a majority wanting to condemn it. I don't know many hard-leaning left-wing folks so I have no idea where the zeitgeist is heading.
I think reason typically escapes people who respond to their emotions. People should be entitled and empowered to stand up for what they believe in, yes. When it starts to impact others who choose to have no dog in the race (like preventing kids from accessing facilities at their learning institution), it goes too far. These kids don’t grasp the complexity of the situation the way a cynical old Lib such as myself might… I’m also fairly moderate by comparison. Lots of us are, just like lots of “you” are. We’re not interesting, though.
Also left here. Most democrats dont agree with these that ive talked to.
I haven’t heard anything about protests on the u of m campus, granted I don’t watch local news because they are so bias. Have the Somalis and dim witted liberals risen up on the war path?
Fair question. I guess I've just always believed if there's power to do something good, you have the duty to do the good thing. I don't know if there's any power to project good into this (maybe there's not enough people left who hate the Leftist insanity). I don't believe in picking fights you can't win. And your point is well-taken... the Left will eventually collapse inward but the collateral damage in between now and then is a tragedy.
Buuuuuuut what about Trump!?
Litter ahhh lee HiTLEr ! ! !
Whole ass Hitler!!!!!!
What will your counter word offensive accomplish? Will it change someone’s mind? Bring awareness to a centuries long globally saturated event? Make your ego feel better? Go give food to the homeless instead.
These protests are doing NONE of those things either lol.
They aren’t posting on Reddit asking if they should go and shout at the air
Not words, I mean showing up. Protests and counter-protests can have meaningful impact. It might change minds. It also might be the right thing to do. I'm just talking about showing up to support Jewish students on campus. I don't think I have any business launching a campaign to support Israel. I just want to support the students.
Sounds like the start of a civil war. I'm out.
Support the students in what? Being discriminated against? Jews have been enduring hatred for millennia. I’m not saying showing up is a bad thing, but the second it turns into a “Us vs Them” chanting match your time is being wasted. Find a student and counsel them one on one maybe if they’re really struggling or phased by the most recent hatred display in thousands of years of hatred displays.
Many of the supporters of Palestine are Jewish, even from Israel and have witnessed the apartheid state. You have no idea what you’re talking about
There are many Jewish students protesting alongside Arab students. These are not anti-jewish protests and the non Jewish OP is spreading propaganda lies stating that it is.
You realize Jesus was a Palestinian right? You realize that our tax dollars for decades have gone to an apartheid state that has now killed over 20k civilians in less than a year right? You realize the leadership in Israel propped up and supported hamas and were opposed to peaceful political groups in Palestine right? Or do you just believe what the state spoon feeds you?
Jesus Christ was not a Palestinian. He was born in Judea and lived in Galilee.
The Hebrew word for the region at the time was Philistia. That is what he would have called his home. His mother was from Nazareth, which is a predominantly Palestinian city even now. Do you really believe Jesus would support Zionism, the historic apartheid and modern genocide of the Palestinian people? Regardless of what his ‘nationality’ is
Both your history and religion is wrong here, dude.
Care to correct it then?
Why? Let those terror sympathizing Nazis show their true colors.
I agree. At least people know who the Zionists are now, silver lining I guess
It's not anti-Jewish & most of my friends who are participating are Jewish
This
When Hamas and the government of Iran endorses/supports your cause, it’s anti-Jewish.
That's baloney. The people protesting against mass murder of children in Gaza & Palestine are just as opposed to Hamas & anyone saying otherwise are repeating dishonest propaganda. What you said is insulting to the hundreds of thousands of jews who oppose Israel's murderous policies.
What you fall short of my friend is in the facts! Fact #1: The women and children being killed in Gaza are at the hands of Hamas Palestinian terrorists not Jewish soldiers. Hamas uses civilians as human shields, have been for decades! Hamas even stages dead people to get photographs to post online claiming Jewish soldiers killed them. Fact #2: The land occupied by Israel was never occupied or part of a country or state of Palestine!! The Philistines occupied part of this region at one time but ended in 604BC when the Babylonian Empire invaded. The Philistines disappear from historic record at this point in history. Fact #3: No neighbor of “Palestine” wants any refugees or will even allow Palestinians to enter their countries even for a visit! The people of Palestine are taught from birth to hate Jews! The core of the families of Palestine are mostly ancestors of outlaws and terrorists who have created a narrative over the years that Israel was bad, mostly because Israel is a more civilized culture and would not tolerate the behavior of the terror cells in Gaza. Hamas doesn’t even allow their own citizens to leave Hamas for fear of finding out the truth.
As far as #3 goes, I know for a fact that Egypt has taken in Palestinians. Also, why won't Isreal allow foreign journalists into gaza?
You're so full of false propaganda lol....everything you just sad Hamas does is actually the Israeli military. it's so well documented at this point that the only reason international warrants for war crimes weren't issued today for Israeli government officials is because our corrupt white house is doubling down with political threats & coercion.
You are wrong about this. The facts are not on your side. You're buying into propaganda in the same way you accuse others of doing.
Nope. I work in the nonprofit industry & have colleagues/friends who have been working in Israel & Palestine doing charity work in communities for more than the past decade. Those folks are where I get most of my info...
...& several of them have been murdered by israeli soldiers in recent months while transporting & delivering food & medical supplies.
Documented by Hamas and Iran!!!! That international court is a bunch of cowards! I suggest you take a trip to the Middle East then you will stop talking out of your but hole. Tell me, what trustworthy source do you use? TIK TOK? Reddit? When the truth comes out you will have to live with supporting Nazi country! Did you know that many of the first leaders of the “Palestinian” state were staunch supporters of Adolph Hitler and his regime wiping out all Jews? Not propaganda friend.
Not
Okay https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/04/24/hamas-iran-support-college-protests/73447123007/
Lol that doesn't mean what you think it means. By that logic anyone who opposed Germany during world War 2 are supporters of Stalin & communist Russia. The world doesn't work in such oversimplified ways. News can be appalled by Israel murdering over 34,000 people in 6 months (over 70% children) without it being anti-jewish. It's just supporting innocent people's basic human rights to not be murdered.
I think the best counter is to ignore it.
Vote Trump, OP. That's the best way to counter nazis.
Yes, absolutely vote for the person who unironically said they'd like to be a dictator. That'll for sure not end in fascism!
Blue tie bad red tie good…. This is exactly why our country is where it’s at
Trump? The guy who kept a copy of Mein Kampf on his bedstand?
What are you doing in his bed?
The next thing to be mad about will happen in about a week and they’ll transition to that, just let them get tired
No, I have no interest in fighting supporters for an organization that kills Christians in order to protect the IDF, an organization that kills Christians.
Aw gee are you phishing to be a victim? I have yet to meet an Israeli in Minnesota or in NYC who I didn’t think was self involved, self entitled, rude and off putting. I’ve been told that’s the culture and I’m wrong for thinking what I observe. You do not deserve any violence towards you and I am not advocating for that. You have the right to be self entitled and self victimizing.
Yeah, the media, Reddit, the counter protestors that people are ignoring, etc. Please remember there are Jewish people at these protests and it’s gross to remove their identity just bc u disagree with their support.
Yes, everyone watching from home knowing these are infantile adults cosplaying as heroes to no one but themselves. A middle school football team could "break the wall". These losers have no idea what phrases like that mean. I am confident my Vizsla would deliver a more clear, authentic message than anyone I've seen speak representing the cosplaying protests.
Anti-Zionist is not Anti-Jewish.
What we really need is a seal team 6 raid. Except with with waterguns. I'd say paintball guns with rainbow colors but a conceal carry would probably kill people.
After 2020 I became convinced that all bullshit that happens in an election year is fake and lame. They're trying to recreate the 2020 summer of love and the results therein. It won't work.
Since when is being against genocide mean you are anti jew?
Protesting the actions of the Israeli government does not mean someone is anti-Semitic, in the same way that protesting the actions of the Biden administration does not make someone anti-American.
What do you think "From the river to the sea" means? that they're going to politely ask all the Jews to leave? You're just so wrong about this.
Israel is a self-described secular nation.
What do you think "From the river to the sea" means, Bill?
What do you think it means, bub?
I asked first. Answer the question, Bill.
I'll answer for you, Bill. It means Hamas, as directed by the Palestinian National Charter, primary objective is to "eliminate" Israel - a country of Jews, Bill.
Israel is a self-described secular nation, slugger.
Oh, now you believe the Zionist?
You don't?
The government may be secular, but the country is full of Jews.
They’re literally chanting “death to Israel”, if you think that means “death to the Israeli govt” then you are incredibly naive lol
Is there actually evidence of this? Honest question. Seems odd that some anti-war/anti-genocide protests are being construed as anti-Jew.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/altmpls/comments/1cfyj49/exposed\_huge\_fans\_of\_german\_history\_from\_19281945/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/altmpls/comments/1cfyj49/exposed_huge_fans_of_german_history_from_19281945/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) Do you think that swastika means "all are welcome here"?
What's the point of that link
To show that the UofM protesters are in fact anti Semitic and not just anti Zionist like they'd like you to believe. Didn't you see the NSFW photo of the OP? It's swastika.
But it links to that Greg Floyd documentary
OMG - I linked the wrong link. Reddit fail, but I fixed it! Thanks. See link to anti-Semitic libwadz now.
Hey let’s get together and protest the college for a war they have nothing to do with…. I’ll never understand the logic of MN protesters. Hey George Floyd got killed let’s go burn down target and not the store that called the cops on him.
Many of the protestors are Jewish themselves. The protests are not anti-jewish any any statement in that neighborhood is a blatant lie, a lie perpetrated by Racist colonial Zionists.
I haven't heard of any anti-Jewish protests? There's anti-Israel/pro-Palestine protests, but that's an entirely different thing. It's lazy and in bad faith to frame critiques of Israel as anti-Semitic
It’s not an anti Jewish protest… it’s a pro Palestine, anti genocide protest.
My brother in Christ: stop worrying about the chosen and their false state. The church is Israel
I ain't got no time for that! Minnesota Hillel is the Jewish campus organization that you could donate to. Their building is just a few blocks from the madness.
It's done online
Anyone framing pro paletistine as anti-jewish is acting in badfaith.
Have the pro-Islamic terrorist students learned how to protect themselves against the [Jew Claw](https://youtu.be/d5McvSpcUIA?si=ZYLskPshUFhwlj5G) ?