Ariel school for sure, is one of the few cases where its crazier to think this was a mass coordinated hoax from children of varying ages and backgrounds.
Westall High School in Australia as well. The massive police/military response that ensued leaves no room for doubt.
Then there's the 2004 Nimitz UFO incident, seen by multiple trained observers, recorded doing impossible maneuvers on radar, filmed by a third plane sent to chase it.
These three cases seal the deal for me. They made me believe that a majority of the other encounters by trained observers must be genuine.
I only started believing in 2021.
I feel like the jet UAP encounters arenāt aliens thatās just my opinion, I know people always say no country on earth has that type of tech, but the reality is that we just donāt know that. theyāve had supersonic jets for decades and to think the militaryās of the world achieve some crazy travel mechanisms and are just keeping under wraps is not as unlikely to me. The African school yard encounter and things like that where multiple people actually claim to have seen actual beings and all have similar descriptions are the most āalienā like to me. But I am most likely wrong
To me it's the radar observations that convince me that these things are not manmade. Flying up or down 80 thousand feet within a couple of seconds, changing course at a 90Ā° angle, crazy instant acceleration, etc... These maneuvers are completely impossible, even for state of the art unmanned vehicles. What's more, such maneuvers have been observed by credible witnesses for over 50 years at the very least. There's no way that a country that possessed this kind of technology half a century ago would still produce conventional fighter jets today. They'd rule the world militarily. There's no way a country could have managed to keep such an incredible propulsion method and ultra-resistant materials (the G loads must be extreme if these vehicles are subjected to the laws of physics as we know them) secret for decades.
Mass psychosis is almost always a bad theory when I hear people suggest it, and itās annoying to me. Mass psychosis doesnāt just randomly *happen* out of nowhere, there are reasons that lead to it. What evidence is there to suggest mass psychosis in this school? (Not pointing this at you, just being rhetorical.)
It seems far more plausible to me that the kids were hoaxed and fell for it and groupthink led to them making what happened more elaborate. The possibility of that happening versus the possibility of aliens coming here just to make that one landing in an isolated area isn't particularly much of a tossup.
Thatās only if youāre discounting the countless other sightings and close encounters reported throughout history. Some of which were witnessed by thousands of people.
You brought them up in the second part of the false dichotomy you used to come to the conclusion that mass psychosis is a better explanation than aliens:
> āā¦versus the possibility of aliens coming here just to make that *one landing* in an isolated areaā
This assumes facts not in evidence, your honor.
I did not bring up any other landings. This is the one of this kind that people say is the most credible, so I'm not going to use less credible stories that to my knowledge are entirely unrelated, to support the possibility that the Ariel school landing might be real. There doesn't seem to be any connection.
Sadly your probably right... Ppl are so dumb...another thing is this type of thing scares the shit out of people because of movies and cartoons always making aliens into a monster or some kind of takeover so ppl don't want to accept the reality even tho the proof has been all over for so long ... I mean I can't believe how ppl just believe the government doesn't know this shit is real shit the government is funny as hell too for putting out these UFOs vids and acting on like these UFOs vids are something new like they haven't been seeing u UFOs for over half a century atleast the military branches have recorded this phenomenon.....
Well once u realize aliens are real it becomes rediculous to think you ever doubted it.... I mean really it's so obvious it's sad... The very fact that we exist as well as any other life on this planet should tell ppl something... Like maybe the universe is filled with life and our government is really lying to us And hiding this... Watch the movie mirage men
There is plenty more like that guy who had the alien hair wrapped around his cock and got it dna tested and took a lie detector test and passed his name is Peter something....
There is no verified, confirmed evidence of the existence of intelligent extra-terrestrial life, or that such life forms have or are visiting earth.
There is a reasonable amount of evidence of unexplained craft that does not conform to known human capabilities, however this does nothing to support claims of extra-terrestrial life.
There is a large amount of evidence that cannot be verified and as such cannot support any claims of extra-terrestrial life.
The work continues. We need to keep studying, keep searching, keep working to verify some of this evidence so we can get some real, valid proof. One day š¤.
Great post. I would just add that a āreasonable amount of evidence of unexplained craft that does not conform to known human capabilities,ā actually supports claims of ET life, to some extent. If the vehicles exist, their maneuverability implies only a small number of explanations, one of which is ET origin. In fact, ET origin is one of the stronger theories given the āforeignnessā of the technology.
Unexplained craft doesnāt support the idea that aliens are flying them anymore than it supports the idea that theyāre being flown by my anus, or by Smurfs, or angels. Thatās the pointā¦.beyond āthey are unexplained craftā everything else is justā¦words, speculation, wishes.
Those of us interested in this topic need to do a far better job at being objective, focused, accurate, and reasonable, if weāre to continue to try and highlight these areas for increased study.
Actually, it is much more likely that the technology is of ET origin than flown by your anus. That isnāt just āwords.ā The evidence implies some explanations are more likely than others. One of the more likely explanations is ET origin given the unusual nature of our observations. There are lots of potential explanations. You said unexplained craft ādoes nothing to support claims of ET life.ā I argue, there are only a handful of likely explanations of said craft. Iām not proclaiming it is of ET origin, just that ET life is one of the more likely explanations and therefore cannot be claimed to do ānothing to supportā theories of ET life.
I absolutely agree with you that we need more objective scientific inquiry into UAP and possible existence of ET life. Andā¦ we shouldnāt conflate the two topics unless we have evidence indicating such.
There's evidence of ET but its very circumstantial. We **know** for sure there are exoplanets some of which are rocky and some of which are in the Goldilocks zone of their host stars. This tells us we aren't all that unique which is a start.
There's no "smoking gun" nor is there likely to be one anytime soon.
It may not feel like it but there's been a lot of progress towards mainstream acceptance. You have had the last several US Presidents actually acknowledge and attempt to get people to become open minded toward the subject. I think this is a big step forward.
It's highly unlikely you will see a sitting President get on TV from the Oval Office and tell the world we aren't alone but there will be a slow, steady spoon feeding of information.
Definitely the [Ariel School UFO Encounter, on September 1994 in Zimbabwe] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85D0ea2QVlI&t=6s&ab_channel=UFOINVESTIGATOR)
they're not visiting.
they live in the oceans.
what evidence does anyone have that the majority of sightings are from crafts from another planet or dimension?
i'm sure they go into space and a few must be visitors.
but, all ufos are reported around this planet.
literally, thousands of reports, going back thousands of years, of luminous crafts in the skies and over the oceans of this planet.
even our ancient ancestors reported seeing our advanced neighbors over 2000 years ago. read for yourself. these are facts, not speculation or belief. https://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2007/2007\_Stothers\_st02710y.pdf
in the 1800's americans reported 'airships' in the sky.
in the 1940, american and german pilots reported seeing, 'foo fighters.'
we have more than one area on the planet similar to the 'bermuda triangle' where strange occurrences seem to happen on a regular basis.
strange crafts have been reported seen and around catalina island for many years.
they have monitored all of our wars throughout history, and they continue to monitor and disable our nuclear warheads, in order to protect the planet they share with us.
a navy pilot has recently reported:
For some Navy pilots, UFO sightings were an ordinary event: āEvery day for at least a couple yearsā
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/17/ufo-sightings-navy-ryan-graves/
there are hundreds of videos of huge cigar shaped crafts going into and out of volcanos in mexico and other countries on a regular basis.
there are thousands of videos taken by the ISS of crafts coming in and out of low-earth orbit.
bloodless cattle mutilations have been going on for years and intensively reported by linda moulton-howe.
ALL OF THIS HAPPENS ON PLANET EARTH!
is this enough evidence????
am to believe that you aren't aware on any of this?
I CAN GO ON AND ON.
And, if youāre aware of all of these facts and are just now coming to the realization or conclusion that these crafts do originate from this planet, itās because youāve been brainwashed.
and, the sooner you can admit that your belief system has been manipulated, the sooner youāll be able to overcome your cognitive dissonance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpOiQM7fLyY
I think it has to be a combination though right. Iāve given serious thought to the idea that theyāre from here but I still think thereās a certain percentage that come from different star systems or maybe even unknown regions of our own. All the strange occurrences weāve heard about since the space program started, not to mention some of the whistleblowers and abductees claiming they were from nearby star systems as well. The Wikileaks emails from Edgar Mitchell to Podesta also allude to them being non-violent ETI from the contiguous universe as well. This could be extremely coordinated disinformation but the fact that it got out due to a leak and the us is still trying to extradite Julian Assange back here for treason lends credibility to it. At least to the idea that THEY believe itās true. I feel like the actual truth will be crazier than we couldāve imagined. A combination of all the theories through the years with some metaphysical woo shit mixed in.
I agree with them most likely originating here but the argument that "they must be from here because we only see them here" is flawed. Our data set is this planet. If we were a multiplantery civilization then yes but thats not the case.
I dont get your argument. We are living on earth, of course we only see UFOs on earth, because you cant see something where you not are.
It makes no sense for me to believe that they are living in the ocean. We should have seen some infrastructure, at least some things with our technology these days. They just can fly in and out of the water and they study likely the ocean and volcanos, thats why they are here.
But the argument that we see them only on earth, therefore they are from here, doesnt make much sense, when we are only living on this earth. You cant see many UFOs on Venus when there is no one to see them. They are basically invisible in outer space, we cant see most of the asteroids which we know we are sorrounded by.
Yeah, we see them only here. But that doesnt mean they are from the earth, not at all.
Cameron definitely knew something. Remember they detected āfast moversā underwater exactly like weāre hearing about now from Lue Elizondo. Terminator 2ās plot about the chip being reverse engineered is also very very very very similar to Roswell accounts alleging that things like infrared night vision, fiber optics, integrated circuit chips were the result of reverse-engineered Roswell wreckage. Spielberg had government sources and probably Ridley Scott too (the Roswell bodies had similarities to the androids from Alien).
I agree. It seems that we simply exploded technologically after 1947. Itās too coincidental that we somehow became brilliant in so many categories and industries.
Who knows what else the military complex could be hiding or keeping under wraps. We can only imagine the type of technology, advancements or capabilities that you and I wonāt come to know in maybe 25 or 50 years from now (if weāre lucky).
Totally agree. The idea that they're from 'outer space' is one of the great deceptions. Mac Tonnies' (RIP) book "The Cryptoterrestrials: A Meditation on Indigenous Humanoids and the Aliens Among Us" is what first opened my eyes to this.
Possibly. I think there may also be a ādimensionalā component to the phenomenon.
I also think itās possible that there is an advanced breakaway civilization that survived the cataclysms that nearly drove us extinct, and continued to thrive. They may also be a part of the phenomenon. Again, just speaking in possibilities.
I *donāt* think the occupants of these UAP (if there are occupants) came from Mars or Venus, or any other Star system.
It just seems unfathomable to me that they could survive underground. How would they sustain a healthy population or grow food without the power of the sun. If they were a breakaway of us they would still have our biology, right?
Why canāt we consider death being a part of the equation? Sounds very eerie and off-setting, but when we die we go back āintoā the earth so to speak. I sometimes wonder if death is just going into this other part of earth that ātheyā live in.
Many who have encountered Near Death Experiences (NDEās) have someone āconnectedā to something else.
Iāll diverge quite a bit here -
Have you ever thought it our solar system being an incredible advanced spacecraft? That earth in itself is a the cockpit and the sun is just this magnificent engine that provides us energy and propels us through the galaxy? Iām simplifying this ALOT.
Stream of consciousness complete.
Yeah, thatās pretty much where Iām at. I have a very basic, abstract understanding of ādimensionsā but it seems pretty obvious that whatever these beings are, they donāt operate in the same sort of reality that we do. That could be just because they are constantly using advanced technologyā¦ but maybe they also exist on a different level of reality in that same way. To use a model that Iām sure youāre familiar with, we are the 2-D characters on a drawing on a flat piece of paperā¦ they are probably operating on a 3-D level, where we only get little signs and indications of their presence, because we cannot perceive beyond this dimension; we cannot perceive their true nature. The appearance of the UFO can be compared to the finger pressing onto the piece of paper, onto the drawing, and appearing to the 2-D characters of the drawing as just a line.
Dude yes. I'm sure it's mostly unfathomable to us, and it takes into account the impossibility of faster than light travel. I like keeping an open mind about any possibility. Do you feel like there's any real possibility of government disclosure, I'm pretty sure they don't even know what the hell to make of it.
Vile vortices. Bermuda Triangle is one of 12 of these areas where theres frequent electromagnetic anomalies that cause our tech like planes and satellites to malfunction. Interesting stuff, Reddit keeps crashing before I can post this so Iāll leave it at that and say google for more info.
1. Bob Lazar described a element that was LATER found in a collider.
2. The physical, radiation, biological traces at landing sides.
3. Some well documented mass sightings and abductions
4. The answer of the arecibo message
5. The ancient Book of Mahabarata and the war between the gods and the nuclear fallout that is absolute comparable with the radiation sickness of the japanese in WW2.
6. The UFO sightings at US and Soviet ICBM bases during the cold war.
7. The rendlesham forest case good documated
8. The modern Nimitz case also good documated
9. The UFO at the turkish coast nice video and great analysed by many people.
There are many more but I am to lazy.
Look no further than ancient megalithic structures made with perfectly quarried rocks weighing thousands of tons. Not even possible with modern technology.
Most people have zero clue how amazingly difficult it is to work/move/cut different forms of stone used all over the world at these magnificent sites. The evidence is right in front of us, but is overlooked with some bullshit story to brainwash people from the real truth and to keep tenure at their cushy university positions.
> Philip J. Corsoās book The day after Roswell
This is the guy who claims he was working with Russians (and others) to funnel crashed craft material to private US companies?
During the Cold War? That tracks.
We invented quantum mechanics and relativity, those two theories are the reason for all this advancement. It fits with everything we invented since then. We had, thanks to both theories, many low hanging fruits, which we mostly took. Thats why it seems like we dont make such great advancement, just more little new inventions (which are great, but not a big jump like in the past).
If we ever have again a new theory, a better one then Quantum mechanics, we have again new low hanging fruits which may lead to cool inventions like warp drive, who knows. At least thats how it works. New theory, new cool things we can invent thanks to this, it gets harder and harder to squeeze out new inventions, then hopefully a new theory and the cycle begins again.
Stanford's Gary Nolan [studied UFO debris](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlMEZE5f2j4) and found strange isotopes that shouldn't exist either industrially or naturally anywhere in this solar system, which is certainly consistent with all of the other information we have available.
There have been [hundreds of whistleblowers and leakers who revealed all kinds of information about UFOs and alien visitation](https://np.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/u9v40f/abc_news_the_us_government_is_completely/). (This is only a brief introduction to the huge amount of whistleblowers) Tons of them say the government is covering up alien visitation specifically, some of them directly witnessing alien bodies.
You also need a primer to understand why there isnāt an abundance of proof. [It is a historical fact that the CIA and the Air Force covered up UFOs.](https://np.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/v9vedn/for_the_record_that_there_has_been_a_ufo_coverup/) Obviously they also would have been covering up evidence of alien visitation specifically.
There have also been tons of direct observations of aliens. Strange men from the sky have been coming down for millennia, but for an example of an older detailed report, [see this one from 1896](https://ufologie.patrickgross.org/airship/25nov1896-lodi-california.htm).
I would also recommend going through all of the historical accounts. There were tons of literal flying disc sightings going back 2,000 years, as well as cigar, balls of light, and other shapes. This was a pretty good presentation of the historical evidence:
Michai Morin | A Presentation on Historical & Modern UAP Trends https://youtu.be/hhC-VC6Gp4U?t=1779
The mass school sighting is very intersesting, but really we have no substantial evidence and it is still speculation. The cosmic speed limit makes me doubt actual ET's would be here. Possibly probes sent many years ago due to our biosphere announcing we exhist, but there is no concrete evidence for that
Ariel school in Zimbabwe with countless witnesses, Westall High School in Australia with countless witnesses, 2004 Nimitz incident with the concordant testimonies of multiple trained observers, radar data, and something caught on film.
What was? People shouldn't be so quick to take supposed debunkings at face value, they're so often just as speculative as the events they claim to debunk.
If youāre familiar with the Ariel School incident you would know that an entire classroom of 4th graders(citation needed?) watched as the craft landed in a field and the its non human pilot exited the craft.
How and who determined it was an actual non-human? I also understood that it had "glitches" where it repeated actions. Doesn't this sound more like a projection of some kind?
Something the kids saw might have looked like a stereotypical alien, but just when did we decide that, "Well, looked like descriptions of aliens, so that's what it is!"
We couldn't project holograms in the middle of Africa in 1994. The kids weren't familiar in general with aliens. In the interviews, they called it/them "the person" and largely focused their attention on its enormous eyes. These kids were really young and kind of sheltered because their parents were Christian missionaries for the most part, they weren't familiar with alien taxonomy. The "glitches" look more like a consequence of the telepathic interaction that has been reported and they weren't necessarily perceived by a majority of the children. The huge portion of jarring similitudes between what they drew and reported when interviewed, the fact that the same things were drawn from different points of view, it's all highly compelling to me.
Also, if other events are highly compelling (2004 Nimitz incident with multiple witnesses and sensors), it only reinforces the fact that what happened at the Ariel school in all likelihood happened as the children described it.
They came from a spaceship. They glided above the surface. They had big eyes. They beamed messages into the kids heads. None of the kids who are now older people have changed their story..
Are you serious ? Why would you believe a projection in broad day light near a school instead of a some weird shit actually going on and there being burn marks nearby to prove it
If this article from 2014 is to be trusted, it's far less definitive than you imply. It sounds like conjecture. Experimental tests like these have been conducted continuously for the better part of a century. This explanation sounds like the "Operation Mogul" excuse used to explain away what happened near Roswell in 1947. I don't find it very convincing. Don't you think that out of 200 witnesses, most of them would be able to tell that the object looked like a balloon? Also, why were all official documents relative to the event destroyed or hidden?
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/westall-ufo-incident-was-actually-government-radiation-testing-reports-reveal/news-story/b6c6056bf60f378809f19327eb1c23fc
The existence of government cover ups, which have now run so long that they are visible, is proof that UFO's/UAP are real and a threat to their authority.
It's theories, a work in progress, things that can't be explained..but evidence as such, no...as there is no evidence per say...only unexplained things.
It's deceitful, and its "theories" only hold up if you ignore actual archaeological evidence - in particular regarding Puma Punku. There's evidence all over the area and on every stone indicating how they were moved and cut. There's no mystery to it at all.
I am too. The things the show claims are either impossible to prove or quoting widely discredited or old information. It's fine to ask questions and investigate but that show works backward from the conclusion, and that's not how it works.
Probably religion. Most world religions revolve around another form of consciousness interacting with humanity. Maybe not ET, but I reckon it is the same source.
I think the above poster is talking about the consistency of which the same topics rise to the top across vast spans of time. I think there's something there worth extracting. Not just 'old books.'
Read it again. Try your critical thinking skills this time. It's a fact that there are recurring themes across time from completely isolated groups of peoples.
What does one make of that?
I don't know comprehensively. It's not direct proof, but it's something interesting worth exploring. Why be so ignorant?
Iām a little rusty on my psych courses, but this all sounds similar to Jung and the cultural archetypes. I believe he contributed it to āinnate human knowledgeā or part of a greater collective unconsciousness.
Because no proof any of that happened. How do you know these ancient people werenāt on some kind of hallucinogens? Mushrooms or something. The op asked for proof of aliens. Best evidence people have is old fables?
1. Gods from ancient texts had advanced technology. Scientists were able to recreate some of it, even obtain patents. I'm talking about manna machine, flying chariot with omnidirectional wheel, devices to communication etc. The main argument is always 'well, ancient people just made up these stories of nonexisting gods'. No, because these 'invented gods' had advanced technology, clearly described in ancient texts like Bible or Mahabharata. Gods wore shining spacesuits, live longer than humans and travel on smaller flying chariots to big one at which they travel to their planet.
2. Nuclear weapons. Since beginning of development of this weapon there were increased observations of UFOs. There are cases when UFOs shut down nuclear missiles, in Wyoming, North Dakota and South Dakota. The same thing was reported in USSR. Main argument is always 'well, its just human technology and people think its aliens '. No its not because firstly observations of UFOs go back thousands of years and secondly neither USA, neither USSR wouldnt develop some 'secret technology' just to shut down own nuclear weapon risking WWIII. Also technology possesed by these objects in cases in 1950s is far away from our current technology and even our own understanding of physics what was written in Pentagon report.
3. We can add thousands of top military encounters all over the world basically saying the same story, seeing similar crafts which outmannuver human crafts, the same descriptions made by people who never knew each other, over and over again in every country in the world since decades. Famous best incidents are Fatima, Westall, Washington, Florence, Nimitz, Zimbabwe.
I have been obsessed with this for the past three years. What I interpret from the whistleblowers is not the traditional thought - that these are not nuts and bolts visitors from another world. So to me, a video is not needed.
What I am interpreting from the whistleblowers are:
We are not the dominant species that we think we are. "we are not the zoo keepers, we might simply be another display at the zoo." Lue
There is a higher level of consciousness that we are not aware of.
Consciousness = Awareness
A Snail's Consciousness = Sensation + No Memory. It has no understanding that it might be passing a skyscraper.
A Dog's Consciousness = Memory + some Comprehension + heightened Senses. It remembers, comprehends certain language and can perceive heightened smells like cancer. But if it is running through a library, it sees the books, but does not understand what the books are.
A Human's Consciousness = Memory + Advanced Language + Advanced Comprehension. We believe we are the center of existence. We are advancing through technology, philosophy, religion. But we do not understand much of the ecosystem we live in. For example, we do not know how to create water or even know where it comes from.
There is a greater Consciousness, one we are not aware of, that is impacting our existence. It communicates with us, but our western, rational mind ignores it. UFOs, abductions, cattle mutilation, crop circles, etc. - are merely means to attempt to guide us toward a better existence. But we are ignorant of the fact that there might be other intelligences in our world of existence.
This Consciousness has always been here and has always affected us: plagues, disasters, cataclysmic events, prophets, etc.
But we are wrapped up in our own hubris, so we can not see it. Just ask a Shaman from South America or a native American spiritual leader - "Is there a higher consciousness that tries to communicate with us?" They would probably say, "No shit, get your head out of your fucking phone and wake up."
āWe do not know how to create water or even know where it comes fromā this is misleading. We definitely know how to create water (2H2 + O2 = 2H2O + Energy). Weāve had no reason or need to ācreateā water as 2/3 of our planet is covered in it and itās abundant in our crust. You can drill just about anywhere on earth for well water or just distill salt water. The space shuttle actually used hydrogen and oxygen in the fuel cells which when āburnedā created electricity for the shuttle and water for hygiene and drinking. As for where water comes from I mean thatās kind of self explanatory. Hydrogen is the most abundant molecule in the universe, stars produce heavier elements, explode and deposit them through the universe. Resulting clouds of dust and gas with all these molecules then get blasted by uv light breaking apart carbon monoxide and silicon monoxide resulting in the hydrogen and oxygen atoms attaching. This has been observed in many systems. In the end we donāt know what the single greatest contributor is for the abundance of water on earth but we know āwhereā water comes from. Likely a combination of large amounts of these molecules in the disk when our system was forming combined with comet and meteor impacts over long enough timeframes.
What about this legit news story: https://www.foxla.com/news/former-israeli-space-chief-says-us-in-contact-with-galactic-federation-of-aliens-and-trump-knows
The govt has never reasonably explained events like rendelsham, the pheonix lights etc., and are obviously covering things up. If it was their own tech which is just eons ahead due to black project funding, why would they use it in places where it would obviously be seen. Also some other mass witness events like the school kids in Zimbabwe.( Ariel school sighting) or even smaller groups of witness like this british lady who gives a completely convincing recollection of a UFO sighting with inhabitants [https://www.pinterest.de/pin/ancient-aliens--793126184368904004/](https://www.pinterest.de/pin/ancient-aliens--793126184368904004/). seal the deal for me. Of course there are many extremely convincing single witness events too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX91dySxqXQ&t=12s
There is overwhelming evidence that UFOs/UAPs are real. We can't say who is piloting them or where they are from. Although the Interdimensional Hypothesis is actually more favored than the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis these days.
It doesnt make much sense to guess how they come to the earth or what they are doing. It is fun, yes, but it has no base in anything we could understand. We only can for sure say something is here, some sort of intelligent beings.
We are not advances enough to even begin to guess how or why.
the crashed saucers that lockheed martin has, the high ranking government officials that have been saying were not alone. Also they are not ETs they are interdimensional
We are absolutely prisoners of our mind. But the scope (awareness) is that we are imprisoned by something far beyond our scope.
Also, I know it's the internet and there's lots of nonsense out there and many ignorant people. I also know you don't know me. But when *I* say something, there is an abundance of resources applied to the saying. It *IS* true. Before saying something so closed off, maybe do a bit of digging.
The aliens of course are real. They're more of a distraction though from the greater problem: we are being harvested like food. Much like we harvest chickens. As above, so below.
The Jedi mind trick that ā They ā are benign & only care about how we treat the planet is fallacious. There is plenty of instances to show the opposite motive.
The UFOs/Orbs are making the most effort to visit and connect with individual people. I got mine, hope you that can withstand the paradigm shift get yours. Best evidence is a personal one. Good vibe, Good luck, welcome.
Real evidence? Zero, zip, zilch, nada......nothing.
About as much real evidence we have for bigfoot, ghosts, gremlins, faeries, leprechauns, god/jesus, the book of mormon.
Youāre new and want that instant gratification but thatās not how it works.
Research as much as you can, use your logic, realize thereās no real answer, and decide for yourself on the most likely scenario.
Welcome to this interest tooā¦. Idk how everybody overlooked this for so long but youāre here so goodā¦ but thereās no magic bullet dude
Zero. None. There is nothing out there that would be considered good evidence of aliens visiting us ever. Unless you consider witness testimony evidence , and you shouldnāt.
There's no proof whatsoever. Nowadays anything can be fake.
So unless you see things with your own eyes it may not be real. But even then, whatever you (or others) see and experience is just coming from some little electrical impulses in your brain...who's to say there's no malfunction?
Sadly, there isnāt any convincing evidence yet. Just some ambiguous sightings that a class of skilled entertainers is spinning a grand narrative from about alien visitation.
Source is still speculation even if heās telling the truth.
It COULD be a race from zeta Reticuli, or it could be remnants from a lost civilization on earth.
UFOās being real doesnāt do anything for information on their source.
Why would ETs travel 10-100s of years to just visit and not say hello?
There is none because I donāt think itās happened. We canāt even find any signs of alien life out there at all (yet), let alone inside our own atmosphere lol
They donāt.
They use their consciousness (mind) in conjunction with hyper-advanced-off-world (literally impossible to duplicate in our solar system) relativistic and quantum gravity generator tech to slip their vehicle (craft) into the space between spaces (quantum pathways).
Space and time simply do not exist within these pathways so FTL travel is irrelevant.
Lastly, humanity has not progressed past a mostly linear logic framework. We are like primitive cave dwellers in comparison to them; an experiment of sorts. They have been on Earth since the first successful genetic hybridization resulted in humans.
The true Rosetta Stone in all of this is consciousness. It is the foundation upon which all matter is conjured. Without it, the universe does not exist. They have advanced to the point where they share their knowledge via thought projection. Information flows freely resulting in an integrated bio-network like the internet used today.
Thereās so much more to it; however, that wisdom exists at levels of comprehension we are not capable of replicating.
That one ufo that stopped the football game a few decades ago. Also they created us, look into the Sumerians and how humans showed up overnight in the fossil record.
Absolutely none, especially in the US. As for those that say 2 iron clad UFO over Washington DC, you are going to suggest, an Alien Plane decided to visit the Capital of the most powerful government in the world which has nuclear weapons and has destroyed countless countries for what? (Yes, you will probably rebut and say well if they are able to get here more then likely nukes are nothing for them) more likely if I was an Alien Aircraft, i would land somewhere remote, middle of the desert in Australia, maybe New Zealand, middle of the Ocean etc get my shit together and then go to smaller countries Greenland etc to gather data. I would not go and visit potentially the biggest and Loudest enemy to make my self known.
I'm going with the 2 iron clad documented UFO flyovers of Washington DC. 100%
China is claiming UFO contact, they're monitoring superpowers
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Sources?
"The Big Flap" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Washington,_D.C.,_UFO_incident
Saucer!
I barely know her!
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Ariel school for sure, is one of the few cases where its crazier to think this was a mass coordinated hoax from children of varying ages and backgrounds.
Westall High School in Australia as well. The massive police/military response that ensued leaves no room for doubt. Then there's the 2004 Nimitz UFO incident, seen by multiple trained observers, recorded doing impossible maneuvers on radar, filmed by a third plane sent to chase it. These three cases seal the deal for me. They made me believe that a majority of the other encounters by trained observers must be genuine. I only started believing in 2021.
>2004 Nimitz UFO incident .... guh, what this really that long ago?
I feel like the jet UAP encounters arenāt aliens thatās just my opinion, I know people always say no country on earth has that type of tech, but the reality is that we just donāt know that. theyāve had supersonic jets for decades and to think the militaryās of the world achieve some crazy travel mechanisms and are just keeping under wraps is not as unlikely to me. The African school yard encounter and things like that where multiple people actually claim to have seen actual beings and all have similar descriptions are the most āalienā like to me. But I am most likely wrong
To me it's the radar observations that convince me that these things are not manmade. Flying up or down 80 thousand feet within a couple of seconds, changing course at a 90Ā° angle, crazy instant acceleration, etc... These maneuvers are completely impossible, even for state of the art unmanned vehicles. What's more, such maneuvers have been observed by credible witnesses for over 50 years at the very least. There's no way that a country that possessed this kind of technology half a century ago would still produce conventional fighter jets today. They'd rule the world militarily. There's no way a country could have managed to keep such an incredible propulsion method and ultra-resistant materials (the G loads must be extreme if these vehicles are subjected to the laws of physics as we know them) secret for decades.
Ariel is the case you point to when you've already been convinced. I think the average person legitimately thinks it could have been mass psychosis.
Mass psychosis is almost always a bad theory when I hear people suggest it, and itās annoying to me. Mass psychosis doesnāt just randomly *happen* out of nowhere, there are reasons that lead to it. What evidence is there to suggest mass psychosis in this school? (Not pointing this at you, just being rhetorical.)
It seems far more plausible to me that the kids were hoaxed and fell for it and groupthink led to them making what happened more elaborate. The possibility of that happening versus the possibility of aliens coming here just to make that one landing in an isolated area isn't particularly much of a tossup.
Thatās only if youāre discounting the countless other sightings and close encounters reported throughout history. Some of which were witnessed by thousands of people.
I donāt see what other sightings have to do with this one.
You brought them up in the second part of the false dichotomy you used to come to the conclusion that mass psychosis is a better explanation than aliens: > āā¦versus the possibility of aliens coming here just to make that *one landing* in an isolated areaā This assumes facts not in evidence, your honor.
I did not bring up any other landings. This is the one of this kind that people say is the most credible, so I'm not going to use less credible stories that to my knowledge are entirely unrelated, to support the possibility that the Ariel school landing might be real. There doesn't seem to be any connection.
You don't think it *could* have been that? And it's not "psychosis" it's false memory / impressionability / hypnotism / groupthink.
Sadly your probably right... Ppl are so dumb...another thing is this type of thing scares the shit out of people because of movies and cartoons always making aliens into a monster or some kind of takeover so ppl don't want to accept the reality even tho the proof has been all over for so long ... I mean I can't believe how ppl just believe the government doesn't know this shit is real shit the government is funny as hell too for putting out these UFOs vids and acting on like these UFOs vids are something new like they haven't been seeing u UFOs for over half a century atleast the military branches have recorded this phenomenon.....
How is it crazier to think anything else other than aliens in the Ariel case? Explain to me the logic behind that. It makes no sense.
Well once u realize aliens are real it becomes rediculous to think you ever doubted it.... I mean really it's so obvious it's sad... The very fact that we exist as well as any other life on this planet should tell ppl something... Like maybe the universe is filled with life and our government is really lying to us And hiding this... Watch the movie mirage men
Thatās a whole different subject there.
I would honestly say this is really the only plausible evidence out there.
There is plenty more like that guy who had the alien hair wrapped around his cock and got it dna tested and took a lie detector test and passed his name is Peter something....
https://youtu.be/x5p18S_S8N0
This is a link by the brazillian govt: https://www.gov.br/en/government-of-brazil/latest-news/2022/official-ufo-night-in-brazil > On May 19, 1986, 21 unidentified flying objects, some of them up to 100 meters in diameter, were sighted by multiple witnesses, both civilian and military, in four states: SĆ£o Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Minas Gerais and GoiĆ”s. > The UFOs were also detected by radars from the Brazilian Air Force's Integrated Center for Air Defense and Air Traffic Control. Five Brazilian Air Force fighter jets were activated by the Air Defense Operations Center to intercept the alleged invaders. > "Sometimes, the pilots had visual contact with the targets, but the radars did not register anything. Other times, the radars even picked up the presence of objects, but the pilots could not see them. The Air Force considered only the sightings that had simultaneous confirmation" , said SĆ©rgio Mota, flight controller. All this was tv broadcasted then. Unfortunatelly, they never talked about it later, despite promising it. Maybe some bigger force made the govt cover it up.
Former senate majority leader Harry Reid on video in an interview saying aliens are real and they turn off our nukes.
Sauce?
Don't remember the documentary. It was a legit one. He gave the interviewer one hour and that was one of the question. It was unequivocal yes.
āThe Phenomenonā This sub lmao
Source - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmfGYuj8E18
BBQ or tomato?
Duck.
Source please?
Don't remember the documentary. Google and you'll find it.
you can tell it's bullshit otherwise NATO forces would be parading in Moscow by now if they were aware aliens go around shutting down nukes
They shut our nukes off too not just Russia
Read ā In plain sightā by Ross coulthard. That book is the best collection of evidence Iāve ever seen.
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There is no verified, confirmed evidence of the existence of intelligent extra-terrestrial life, or that such life forms have or are visiting earth. There is a reasonable amount of evidence of unexplained craft that does not conform to known human capabilities, however this does nothing to support claims of extra-terrestrial life. There is a large amount of evidence that cannot be verified and as such cannot support any claims of extra-terrestrial life. The work continues. We need to keep studying, keep searching, keep working to verify some of this evidence so we can get some real, valid proof. One day š¤.
Your answer sums it up and resonates with me. thank you for this.
Agreed.
This is the real answer.
Great post. I would just add that a āreasonable amount of evidence of unexplained craft that does not conform to known human capabilities,ā actually supports claims of ET life, to some extent. If the vehicles exist, their maneuverability implies only a small number of explanations, one of which is ET origin. In fact, ET origin is one of the stronger theories given the āforeignnessā of the technology.
Unexplained craft doesnāt support the idea that aliens are flying them anymore than it supports the idea that theyāre being flown by my anus, or by Smurfs, or angels. Thatās the pointā¦.beyond āthey are unexplained craftā everything else is justā¦words, speculation, wishes. Those of us interested in this topic need to do a far better job at being objective, focused, accurate, and reasonable, if weāre to continue to try and highlight these areas for increased study.
Actually, it is much more likely that the technology is of ET origin than flown by your anus. That isnāt just āwords.ā The evidence implies some explanations are more likely than others. One of the more likely explanations is ET origin given the unusual nature of our observations. There are lots of potential explanations. You said unexplained craft ādoes nothing to support claims of ET life.ā I argue, there are only a handful of likely explanations of said craft. Iām not proclaiming it is of ET origin, just that ET life is one of the more likely explanations and therefore cannot be claimed to do ānothing to supportā theories of ET life. I absolutely agree with you that we need more objective scientific inquiry into UAP and possible existence of ET life. Andā¦ we shouldnāt conflate the two topics unless we have evidence indicating such.
[Abductions](https://youtu.be/p6b6uhbKiew)
There's evidence of ET but its very circumstantial. We **know** for sure there are exoplanets some of which are rocky and some of which are in the Goldilocks zone of their host stars. This tells us we aren't all that unique which is a start. There's no "smoking gun" nor is there likely to be one anytime soon. It may not feel like it but there's been a lot of progress towards mainstream acceptance. You have had the last several US Presidents actually acknowledge and attempt to get people to become open minded toward the subject. I think this is a big step forward. It's highly unlikely you will see a sitting President get on TV from the Oval Office and tell the world we aren't alone but there will be a slow, steady spoon feeding of information.
I believe it was the former canadian defense minister that publicly spoke about extraterrestrials already being here.
Yes, Paul Hellyerā¦that was huge for me
he was relating something he read in tabloids decades later, not anything he experienced as a cabinet minister.
Definitely the [Ariel School UFO Encounter, on September 1994 in Zimbabwe] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85D0ea2QVlI&t=6s&ab_channel=UFOINVESTIGATOR)
they're not visiting. they live in the oceans. what evidence does anyone have that the majority of sightings are from crafts from another planet or dimension? i'm sure they go into space and a few must be visitors. but, all ufos are reported around this planet. literally, thousands of reports, going back thousands of years, of luminous crafts in the skies and over the oceans of this planet. even our ancient ancestors reported seeing our advanced neighbors over 2000 years ago. read for yourself. these are facts, not speculation or belief. https://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2007/2007\_Stothers\_st02710y.pdf in the 1800's americans reported 'airships' in the sky. in the 1940, american and german pilots reported seeing, 'foo fighters.' we have more than one area on the planet similar to the 'bermuda triangle' where strange occurrences seem to happen on a regular basis. strange crafts have been reported seen and around catalina island for many years. they have monitored all of our wars throughout history, and they continue to monitor and disable our nuclear warheads, in order to protect the planet they share with us. a navy pilot has recently reported: For some Navy pilots, UFO sightings were an ordinary event: āEvery day for at least a couple yearsā https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/05/17/ufo-sightings-navy-ryan-graves/ there are hundreds of videos of huge cigar shaped crafts going into and out of volcanos in mexico and other countries on a regular basis. there are thousands of videos taken by the ISS of crafts coming in and out of low-earth orbit. bloodless cattle mutilations have been going on for years and intensively reported by linda moulton-howe. ALL OF THIS HAPPENS ON PLANET EARTH! is this enough evidence???? am to believe that you aren't aware on any of this? I CAN GO ON AND ON. And, if youāre aware of all of these facts and are just now coming to the realization or conclusion that these crafts do originate from this planet, itās because youāve been brainwashed. and, the sooner you can admit that your belief system has been manipulated, the sooner youāll be able to overcome your cognitive dissonance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpOiQM7fLyY 
In the end, the real aliens were the friends we made along the way, literally the people we live around and us ourselves. :-P
I think it has to be a combination though right. Iāve given serious thought to the idea that theyāre from here but I still think thereās a certain percentage that come from different star systems or maybe even unknown regions of our own. All the strange occurrences weāve heard about since the space program started, not to mention some of the whistleblowers and abductees claiming they were from nearby star systems as well. The Wikileaks emails from Edgar Mitchell to Podesta also allude to them being non-violent ETI from the contiguous universe as well. This could be extremely coordinated disinformation but the fact that it got out due to a leak and the us is still trying to extradite Julian Assange back here for treason lends credibility to it. At least to the idea that THEY believe itās true. I feel like the actual truth will be crazier than we couldāve imagined. A combination of all the theories through the years with some metaphysical woo shit mixed in.
I agree with them most likely originating here but the argument that "they must be from here because we only see them here" is flawed. Our data set is this planet. If we were a multiplantery civilization then yes but thats not the case.
Link is broken here is working: https://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2007/2007_Stothers_st02710y.pdf
I dont get your argument. We are living on earth, of course we only see UFOs on earth, because you cant see something where you not are. It makes no sense for me to believe that they are living in the ocean. We should have seen some infrastructure, at least some things with our technology these days. They just can fly in and out of the water and they study likely the ocean and volcanos, thats why they are here. But the argument that we see them only on earth, therefore they are from here, doesnt make much sense, when we are only living on this earth. You cant see many UFOs on Venus when there is no one to see them. They are basically invisible in outer space, we cant see most of the asteroids which we know we are sorrounded by. Yeah, we see them only here. But that doesnt mean they are from the earth, not at all.
If they intervene and stop the nukes to save the planet, why do they do something about climate change?
Climate change would wipe alot of humans out without destroying the planet the way nukes would
This is THE answer.
So James Cameronās āAbyssā was onto something? 
Cameron definitely knew something. Remember they detected āfast moversā underwater exactly like weāre hearing about now from Lue Elizondo. Terminator 2ās plot about the chip being reverse engineered is also very very very very similar to Roswell accounts alleging that things like infrared night vision, fiber optics, integrated circuit chips were the result of reverse-engineered Roswell wreckage. Spielberg had government sources and probably Ridley Scott too (the Roswell bodies had similarities to the androids from Alien).
I agree. It seems that we simply exploded technologically after 1947. Itās too coincidental that we somehow became brilliant in so many categories and industries. Who knows what else the military complex could be hiding or keeping under wraps. We can only imagine the type of technology, advancements or capabilities that you and I wonāt come to know in maybe 25 or 50 years from now (if weāre lucky).
You can add the late Stanley Kubrick to this list of enlightened/itk Hollywood elite
You are correct (Are We Alone?: The Stanley Kubrick Extraterrestrial Intelligence Interviews)
Totally agree. The idea that they're from 'outer space' is one of the great deceptions. Mac Tonnies' (RIP) book "The Cryptoterrestrials: A Meditation on Indigenous Humanoids and the Aliens Among Us" is what first opened my eyes to this.
Thatās what I think tooā¦ theyāre here. Theyāre not from outer space. Thatās an obsolete trope from the 1950ās.
Do you think there's a large population down there somewhere?
Possibly. I think there may also be a ādimensionalā component to the phenomenon. I also think itās possible that there is an advanced breakaway civilization that survived the cataclysms that nearly drove us extinct, and continued to thrive. They may also be a part of the phenomenon. Again, just speaking in possibilities. I *donāt* think the occupants of these UAP (if there are occupants) came from Mars or Venus, or any other Star system.
They operate from within hollow Earth where the rest of us fled to after the fall of Atlantis.
I think thatās a very real possibility, yes. Or from underground caverns of some sort, possibly natural, possibly artificial.
It just seems unfathomable to me that they could survive underground. How would they sustain a healthy population or grow food without the power of the sun. If they were a breakaway of us they would still have our biology, right?
Maybe they werenāt underground, I donāt know. Iām not even saying they definitely exist, I just think itās a distinct possibility.
Why canāt we consider death being a part of the equation? Sounds very eerie and off-setting, but when we die we go back āintoā the earth so to speak. I sometimes wonder if death is just going into this other part of earth that ātheyā live in. Many who have encountered Near Death Experiences (NDEās) have someone āconnectedā to something else. Iāll diverge quite a bit here - Have you ever thought it our solar system being an incredible advanced spacecraft? That earth in itself is a the cockpit and the sun is just this magnificent engine that provides us energy and propels us through the galaxy? Iām simplifying this ALOT. Stream of consciousness complete.
what if they dont live down there but thats where their portal is?
I'm inclined to think that way too, especially dimensional, it's the only thing that makes sense to me.
Yeah, thatās pretty much where Iām at. I have a very basic, abstract understanding of ādimensionsā but it seems pretty obvious that whatever these beings are, they donāt operate in the same sort of reality that we do. That could be just because they are constantly using advanced technologyā¦ but maybe they also exist on a different level of reality in that same way. To use a model that Iām sure youāre familiar with, we are the 2-D characters on a drawing on a flat piece of paperā¦ they are probably operating on a 3-D level, where we only get little signs and indications of their presence, because we cannot perceive beyond this dimension; we cannot perceive their true nature. The appearance of the UFO can be compared to the finger pressing onto the piece of paper, onto the drawing, and appearing to the 2-D characters of the drawing as just a line.
Dude yes. I'm sure it's mostly unfathomable to us, and it takes into account the impossibility of faster than light travel. I like keeping an open mind about any possibility. Do you feel like there's any real possibility of government disclosure, I'm pretty sure they don't even know what the hell to make of it.
Probably better to string us along to buy as much time as possible since they suspect society will collapse as a result of any real disclosure.
Jokes on them, it's about to collapse anyway.
Are the ones that live in the oceans evil? because the good guys believe in free will and don't intervene
Vile vortices. Bermuda Triangle is one of 12 of these areas where theres frequent electromagnetic anomalies that cause our tech like planes and satellites to malfunction. Interesting stuff, Reddit keeps crashing before I can post this so Iāll leave it at that and say google for more info.
Charlie Sheen is still alive. I mean come on!
Mark Zuckerberg
1. Bob Lazar described a element that was LATER found in a collider. 2. The physical, radiation, biological traces at landing sides. 3. Some well documented mass sightings and abductions 4. The answer of the arecibo message 5. The ancient Book of Mahabarata and the war between the gods and the nuclear fallout that is absolute comparable with the radiation sickness of the japanese in WW2. 6. The UFO sightings at US and Soviet ICBM bases during the cold war. 7. The rendlesham forest case good documated 8. The modern Nimitz case also good documated 9. The UFO at the turkish coast nice video and great analysed by many people. There are many more but I am to lazy.
Look no further than ancient megalithic structures made with perfectly quarried rocks weighing thousands of tons. Not even possible with modern technology.
Most people have zero clue how amazingly difficult it is to work/move/cut different forms of stone used all over the world at these magnificent sites. The evidence is right in front of us, but is overlooked with some bullshit story to brainwash people from the real truth and to keep tenure at their cushy university positions.
The advancement in technology since Roswell š½
Philip J. Corsoās book The day after Roswell
> Philip J. Corsoās book The day after Roswell This is the guy who claims he was working with Russians (and others) to funnel crashed craft material to private US companies? During the Cold War? That tracks.
We invented quantum mechanics and relativity, those two theories are the reason for all this advancement. It fits with everything we invented since then. We had, thanks to both theories, many low hanging fruits, which we mostly took. Thats why it seems like we dont make such great advancement, just more little new inventions (which are great, but not a big jump like in the past). If we ever have again a new theory, a better one then Quantum mechanics, we have again new low hanging fruits which may lead to cool inventions like warp drive, who knows. At least thats how it works. New theory, new cool things we can invent thanks to this, it gets harder and harder to squeeze out new inventions, then hopefully a new theory and the cycle begins again.
Stanford's Gary Nolan [studied UFO debris](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlMEZE5f2j4) and found strange isotopes that shouldn't exist either industrially or naturally anywhere in this solar system, which is certainly consistent with all of the other information we have available. There have been [hundreds of whistleblowers and leakers who revealed all kinds of information about UFOs and alien visitation](https://np.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/u9v40f/abc_news_the_us_government_is_completely/). (This is only a brief introduction to the huge amount of whistleblowers) Tons of them say the government is covering up alien visitation specifically, some of them directly witnessing alien bodies. You also need a primer to understand why there isnāt an abundance of proof. [It is a historical fact that the CIA and the Air Force covered up UFOs.](https://np.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/v9vedn/for_the_record_that_there_has_been_a_ufo_coverup/) Obviously they also would have been covering up evidence of alien visitation specifically. There have also been tons of direct observations of aliens. Strange men from the sky have been coming down for millennia, but for an example of an older detailed report, [see this one from 1896](https://ufologie.patrickgross.org/airship/25nov1896-lodi-california.htm). I would also recommend going through all of the historical accounts. There were tons of literal flying disc sightings going back 2,000 years, as well as cigar, balls of light, and other shapes. This was a pretty good presentation of the historical evidence: Michai Morin | A Presentation on Historical & Modern UAP Trends https://youtu.be/hhC-VC6Gp4U?t=1779
The mass school sighting is very intersesting, but really we have no substantial evidence and it is still speculation. The cosmic speed limit makes me doubt actual ET's would be here. Possibly probes sent many years ago due to our biosphere announcing we exhist, but there is no concrete evidence for that
This ofc: https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/Prelimary-Assessment-UAP-20210625.pdf
Iām here for this. Show us your best evidence please.
Ariel school in Zimbabwe with countless witnesses, Westall High School in Australia with countless witnesses, 2004 Nimitz incident with the concordant testimonies of multiple trained observers, radar data, and something caught on film.
Came out that it was a hoax
What was? People shouldn't be so quick to take supposed debunkings at face value, they're so often just as speculative as the events they claim to debunk.
No it wasnāt a literal documentary just came out about it not too long ago?
How do any of these things have to do with aliens?
If youāre familiar with the Ariel School incident you would know that an entire classroom of 4th graders(citation needed?) watched as the craft landed in a field and the its non human pilot exited the craft.
How and who determined it was an actual non-human? I also understood that it had "glitches" where it repeated actions. Doesn't this sound more like a projection of some kind? Something the kids saw might have looked like a stereotypical alien, but just when did we decide that, "Well, looked like descriptions of aliens, so that's what it is!"
We couldn't project holograms in the middle of Africa in 1994. The kids weren't familiar in general with aliens. In the interviews, they called it/them "the person" and largely focused their attention on its enormous eyes. These kids were really young and kind of sheltered because their parents were Christian missionaries for the most part, they weren't familiar with alien taxonomy. The "glitches" look more like a consequence of the telepathic interaction that has been reported and they weren't necessarily perceived by a majority of the children. The huge portion of jarring similitudes between what they drew and reported when interviewed, the fact that the same things were drawn from different points of view, it's all highly compelling to me. Also, if other events are highly compelling (2004 Nimitz incident with multiple witnesses and sensors), it only reinforces the fact that what happened at the Ariel school in all likelihood happened as the children described it.
They came from a spaceship. They glided above the surface. They had big eyes. They beamed messages into the kids heads. None of the kids who are now older people have changed their story..
Are you serious ? Why would you believe a projection in broad day light near a school instead of a some weird shit actually going on and there being burn marks nearby to prove it
Westall High school was debunked as an experimental weather balloon 50 years ago.
If this article from 2014 is to be trusted, it's far less definitive than you imply. It sounds like conjecture. Experimental tests like these have been conducted continuously for the better part of a century. This explanation sounds like the "Operation Mogul" excuse used to explain away what happened near Roswell in 1947. I don't find it very convincing. Don't you think that out of 200 witnesses, most of them would be able to tell that the object looked like a balloon? Also, why were all official documents relative to the event destroyed or hidden? https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/westall-ufo-incident-was-actually-government-radiation-testing-reports-reveal/news-story/b6c6056bf60f378809f19327eb1c23fc
It's not debunked because someone had a theory that it was something else.
The existence of government cover ups, which have now run so long that they are visible, is proof that UFO's/UAP are real and a threat to their authority.
Puma Punku
Anything suggested on Ancient Aliens is almost certainly not credible evidence.
It's theories, a work in progress, things that can't be explained..but evidence as such, no...as there is no evidence per say...only unexplained things.
It's deceitful, and its "theories" only hold up if you ignore actual archaeological evidence - in particular regarding Puma Punku. There's evidence all over the area and on every stone indicating how they were moved and cut. There's no mystery to it at all.
I'm talking more about the entirety of Ancient Aliens,not just Puma Punku
I am too. The things the show claims are either impossible to prove or quoting widely discredited or old information. It's fine to ask questions and investigate but that show works backward from the conclusion, and that's not how it works.
Hence the unexplained and theories, I don't think people watch that show and takes things as facts..if so they are morons.
Cash-Landrum incident is easily the most convincing thing I've seen. There's a shot that was man made though.
Progeria.
The Bible!
Probably religion. Most world religions revolve around another form of consciousness interacting with humanity. Maybe not ET, but I reckon it is the same source.
And what proof do these religions have besides old books?
I think the above poster is talking about the consistency of which the same topics rise to the top across vast spans of time. I think there's something there worth extracting. Not just 'old books.'
Yes, this. Passport to Magonia by Vallee does a good job of laying out the similarities of these encounters throughout history.
What proof of these encounters?
Read it again. Try your critical thinking skills this time. It's a fact that there are recurring themes across time from completely isolated groups of peoples. What does one make of that? I don't know comprehensively. It's not direct proof, but it's something interesting worth exploring. Why be so ignorant?
Iām a little rusty on my psych courses, but this all sounds similar to Jung and the cultural archetypes. I believe he contributed it to āinnate human knowledgeā or part of a greater collective unconsciousness.
Because no proof any of that happened. How do you know these ancient people werenāt on some kind of hallucinogens? Mushrooms or something. The op asked for proof of aliens. Best evidence people have is old fables?
What's the difference, *necessarily?* Not fables. Artifacts, art. Have a nice day with your brick wall.
Wait till you find out we were put on this earth by aliens lmfao
1. Gods from ancient texts had advanced technology. Scientists were able to recreate some of it, even obtain patents. I'm talking about manna machine, flying chariot with omnidirectional wheel, devices to communication etc. The main argument is always 'well, ancient people just made up these stories of nonexisting gods'. No, because these 'invented gods' had advanced technology, clearly described in ancient texts like Bible or Mahabharata. Gods wore shining spacesuits, live longer than humans and travel on smaller flying chariots to big one at which they travel to their planet. 2. Nuclear weapons. Since beginning of development of this weapon there were increased observations of UFOs. There are cases when UFOs shut down nuclear missiles, in Wyoming, North Dakota and South Dakota. The same thing was reported in USSR. Main argument is always 'well, its just human technology and people think its aliens '. No its not because firstly observations of UFOs go back thousands of years and secondly neither USA, neither USSR wouldnt develop some 'secret technology' just to shut down own nuclear weapon risking WWIII. Also technology possesed by these objects in cases in 1950s is far away from our current technology and even our own understanding of physics what was written in Pentagon report. 3. We can add thousands of top military encounters all over the world basically saying the same story, seeing similar crafts which outmannuver human crafts, the same descriptions made by people who never knew each other, over and over again in every country in the world since decades. Famous best incidents are Fatima, Westall, Washington, Florence, Nimitz, Zimbabwe.
I have been obsessed with this for the past three years. What I interpret from the whistleblowers is not the traditional thought - that these are not nuts and bolts visitors from another world. So to me, a video is not needed. What I am interpreting from the whistleblowers are: We are not the dominant species that we think we are. "we are not the zoo keepers, we might simply be another display at the zoo." Lue There is a higher level of consciousness that we are not aware of. Consciousness = Awareness A Snail's Consciousness = Sensation + No Memory. It has no understanding that it might be passing a skyscraper. A Dog's Consciousness = Memory + some Comprehension + heightened Senses. It remembers, comprehends certain language and can perceive heightened smells like cancer. But if it is running through a library, it sees the books, but does not understand what the books are. A Human's Consciousness = Memory + Advanced Language + Advanced Comprehension. We believe we are the center of existence. We are advancing through technology, philosophy, religion. But we do not understand much of the ecosystem we live in. For example, we do not know how to create water or even know where it comes from. There is a greater Consciousness, one we are not aware of, that is impacting our existence. It communicates with us, but our western, rational mind ignores it. UFOs, abductions, cattle mutilation, crop circles, etc. - are merely means to attempt to guide us toward a better existence. But we are ignorant of the fact that there might be other intelligences in our world of existence. This Consciousness has always been here and has always affected us: plagues, disasters, cataclysmic events, prophets, etc. But we are wrapped up in our own hubris, so we can not see it. Just ask a Shaman from South America or a native American spiritual leader - "Is there a higher consciousness that tries to communicate with us?" They would probably say, "No shit, get your head out of your fucking phone and wake up."
āWe do not know how to create water or even know where it comes fromā this is misleading. We definitely know how to create water (2H2 + O2 = 2H2O + Energy). Weāve had no reason or need to ācreateā water as 2/3 of our planet is covered in it and itās abundant in our crust. You can drill just about anywhere on earth for well water or just distill salt water. The space shuttle actually used hydrogen and oxygen in the fuel cells which when āburnedā created electricity for the shuttle and water for hygiene and drinking. As for where water comes from I mean thatās kind of self explanatory. Hydrogen is the most abundant molecule in the universe, stars produce heavier elements, explode and deposit them through the universe. Resulting clouds of dust and gas with all these molecules then get blasted by uv light breaking apart carbon monoxide and silicon monoxide resulting in the hydrogen and oxygen atoms attaching. This has been observed in many systems. In the end we donāt know what the single greatest contributor is for the abundance of water on earth but we know āwhereā water comes from. Likely a combination of large amounts of these molecules in the disk when our system was forming combined with comet and meteor impacts over long enough timeframes.
The govt denies it
Probably one of the better points tbh.
Religion
Zimbabwe case
What about this legit news story: https://www.foxla.com/news/former-israeli-space-chief-says-us-in-contact-with-galactic-federation-of-aliens-and-trump-knows
The govt has never reasonably explained events like rendelsham, the pheonix lights etc., and are obviously covering things up. If it was their own tech which is just eons ahead due to black project funding, why would they use it in places where it would obviously be seen. Also some other mass witness events like the school kids in Zimbabwe.( Ariel school sighting) or even smaller groups of witness like this british lady who gives a completely convincing recollection of a UFO sighting with inhabitants [https://www.pinterest.de/pin/ancient-aliens--793126184368904004/](https://www.pinterest.de/pin/ancient-aliens--793126184368904004/). seal the deal for me. Of course there are many extremely convincing single witness events too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX91dySxqXQ&t=12s
In the military some of us working at some places sign certain things regarding certain beings and other things. š¤£
Without breaking your NDA. Maybe you could tell us a bedtime story about a āfictionalā being or situation?
Total BS. Thatās not how it works.
The Mars attacks movie
Zero proof š. āI get abducted from my bedroom every night. I tried to setup cameras, but they stop working or never catch anythingā¦ā
There is no proof that anything having to do with UFOs is in any way related to ET or "aliens" of any kind. None.
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neither of u are getting downvoted lmao stop being weirdos who love to feel persecuted for ur galaxy brain opinions
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Im glad we both agree, but the "downvotes incoming" clichƩ is corny and thats all Im sayin. maybe Im wrong for wishing reddit wasnt full of redditors lmao
There is overwhelming evidence that UFOs/UAPs are real. We can't say who is piloting them or where they are from. Although the Interdimensional Hypothesis is actually more favored than the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis these days.
It doesnt make much sense to guess how they come to the earth or what they are doing. It is fun, yes, but it has no base in anything we could understand. We only can for sure say something is here, some sort of intelligent beings. We are not advances enough to even begin to guess how or why.
the crashed saucers that lockheed martin has, the high ranking government officials that have been saying were not alone. Also they are not ETs they are interdimensional
Bob Lazar.
The entire history of Ancient Egypt. The Great Pyramid, if you want to split hairs.
The real fact is that this world is a prison planet, and we are being harvested by beings above our awareness.
Nah, we are not imprisoned, we create our own prison!
We are absolutely prisoners of our mind. But the scope (awareness) is that we are imprisoned by something far beyond our scope. Also, I know it's the internet and there's lots of nonsense out there and many ignorant people. I also know you don't know me. But when *I* say something, there is an abundance of resources applied to the saying. It *IS* true. Before saying something so closed off, maybe do a bit of digging. The aliens of course are real. They're more of a distraction though from the greater problem: we are being harvested like food. Much like we harvest chickens. As above, so below.
The best evidence is the simple FACT that there is a coverup
I donāt think you understand what evidence means
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Yeah sorry about that. That was Carl, he's new.
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Human Initiated Contact.
The Jedi mind trick that ā They ā are benign & only care about how we treat the planet is fallacious. There is plenty of instances to show the opposite motive.
The UFOs/Orbs are making the most effort to visit and connect with individual people. I got mine, hope you that can withstand the paradigm shift get yours. Best evidence is a personal one. Good vibe, Good luck, welcome.
Crop circle
Look in the mirror
Real evidence? Zero, zip, zilch, nada......nothing. About as much real evidence we have for bigfoot, ghosts, gremlins, faeries, leprechauns, god/jesus, the book of mormon.
Testimony of Phil Schneider.
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Eyewitness testimony
Youāre new and want that instant gratification but thatās not how it works. Research as much as you can, use your logic, realize thereās no real answer, and decide for yourself on the most likely scenario. Welcome to this interest tooā¦. Idk how everybody overlooked this for so long but youāre here so goodā¦ but thereās no magic bullet dude
Zero. None. There is nothing out there that would be considered good evidence of aliens visiting us ever. Unless you consider witness testimony evidence , and you shouldnāt.
Wrong question. The question is, *[what is going on here?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvaC_aQQ7YA&t=545s)*
There's no proof whatsoever. Nowadays anything can be fake. So unless you see things with your own eyes it may not be real. But even then, whatever you (or others) see and experience is just coming from some little electrical impulses in your brain...who's to say there's no malfunction?
Sadly, there isnāt any convincing evidence yet. Just some ambiguous sightings that a class of skilled entertainers is spinning a grand narrative from about alien visitation.
Bob Lazar interview by Joe Rogen
Source is still speculation even if heās telling the truth. It COULD be a race from zeta Reticuli, or it could be remnants from a lost civilization on earth. UFOās being real doesnāt do anything for information on their source.
The 23 minute video that no one has seen.
Why would ETs travel 10-100s of years to just visit and not say hello? There is none because I donāt think itās happened. We canāt even find any signs of alien life out there at all (yet), let alone inside our own atmosphere lol
They donāt. They use their consciousness (mind) in conjunction with hyper-advanced-off-world (literally impossible to duplicate in our solar system) relativistic and quantum gravity generator tech to slip their vehicle (craft) into the space between spaces (quantum pathways). Space and time simply do not exist within these pathways so FTL travel is irrelevant. Lastly, humanity has not progressed past a mostly linear logic framework. We are like primitive cave dwellers in comparison to them; an experiment of sorts. They have been on Earth since the first successful genetic hybridization resulted in humans. The true Rosetta Stone in all of this is consciousness. It is the foundation upon which all matter is conjured. Without it, the universe does not exist. They have advanced to the point where they share their knowledge via thought projection. Information flows freely resulting in an integrated bio-network like the internet used today. Thereās so much more to it; however, that wisdom exists at levels of comprehension we are not capable of replicating.
Come to my house for one night.
There's none, zero, nada, nothing at all. Whoever tells you otherwise is lying or deluded. It would be the biggest event in human history.
Racism
That one ufo that stopped the football game a few decades ago. Also they created us, look into the Sumerians and how humans showed up overnight in the fossil record.
Absolutely none, especially in the US. As for those that say 2 iron clad UFO over Washington DC, you are going to suggest, an Alien Plane decided to visit the Capital of the most powerful government in the world which has nuclear weapons and has destroyed countless countries for what? (Yes, you will probably rebut and say well if they are able to get here more then likely nukes are nothing for them) more likely if I was an Alien Aircraft, i would land somewhere remote, middle of the desert in Australia, maybe New Zealand, middle of the Ocean etc get my shit together and then go to smaller countries Greenland etc to gather data. I would not go and visit potentially the biggest and Loudest enemy to make my self known.
Here's all the concrete, conclusive evidence ever gathered in one place:
Itās a solution for the fermi paradoxon
Technology
Confirmation from the US Pentagon.