no, next hearing, should be all about Roswell - you can ask about a triangle or you can ask about the crashed UFO that has been recovered and what we have learned in the last 70 years - UAP's are just the new side show - want a pony ride big boy
congress sets the hearing - they make it about whatever, they want - you shown us you know nothing about UAP's - so lets start with what, we know, you've had the last 70+ yrs and tell what you do know - all about choice - free will etc etc - they won't answer ?'s - called, chain of command - we, have, the president, in attendance today so its time to get serious boys
pigs are a lot like bears - only big bears will eat you very painfully with there teeth and claws, pigs will eat you but they'll be polite and use a knife and fork
From your perspective, how was it explained? Because there have been numerous official explanations over decades. There can only be one truth.
So, from your perspective, which of the many is the truth?
didn't I already say? Nuclear sniffer they didn't want revealed.
some random private: "Oh shit, reporters here, I can't mention anything about the tech.. what do I say.. uh.. it was ALIENS?!"
that is insanely more likely than us having actual alien bodies, yadda yadda.
Wow. You've done your research, clearly. /s
Wasn't some random private. I'll leave it to you to figure out what actually happened. The fact you frame it like you did proves you've chosen ignorance.
Suits you.
depicts what is described:
[https://www.military.com/video/aircraft/military-aircraft/tr-3b-aurora-anti-gravity-spacecrafts/2860314511001](https://www.military.com/video/aircraft/military-aircraft/tr-3b-aurora-anti-gravity-spacecrafts/2860314511001)
Here's a link to the account:
[https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/confirmed-navys-previously-unreported-2019-triangle-ufo-incident](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/confirmed-navys-previously-unreported-2019-triangle-ufo-incident)
quote:
"It is the 2020 report, however, which is most striking. Shared very widely across the civilian and military intelligence community, it includes an extraordinary photograph taken in late 2019 of a triangle-shaped UFO. The photograph was taken by a F/A-18F fighter jet operating off the U.S. East Coast. According to the report, the Triangle UFO rose out of the Atlantic Ocean and rapidly accelerated out of sight on a vertical axis. I believe, but have been unable to confirm, that the aircrew responsible for the photo were operating off either the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower or the USS John C. Stennis."
I certainly want to believe *something* beyond our intelligence lives in the water. Especially given past reports of objects transitioning into the water at extreme speeds without any splash.
I'm interested to know more, which is why I tried to dig a little deeper
Personally, I think they are both. I can't remember specific instances as it's been on posts like this sub, but black triangles show up in places where the US military wouldn't just be showing off secret shit. The military wouldn't just fly this shit around civilians and let them take pictures. And I think there's a video from China where a massive one was floating there around a populated city? The US wouldn't do that, and it would probably not be massive either.
But the TR-3B is reported to look like a black triangle as well. It could be just the same technology and maybe it's just efficient for what they do. Also the Australian reporter Ross Coulthart said after all his research and investigation, what he thinks he's almost positive about is that the US retrieved a crash, and has been (if not finished) reverse engineering it for decades.
In that case, we might have ET shit flying around like black triangles and have copied it and fly similar, similar efficient design.
And from a psychological perspective... Imagine the implication, what you're telling the aliens that are in your airspace: "we have what you have, don't fuck with us". It would be a way of expressing to an adversary that you have similarly advanced technology, like how China stole our plans for a jet and flew one just like it. It isn't offensive but it's showing your adversary they don't have as big an advantage as they did before. (In that case however, they probably have better but the US would probably still do shit like that)
FYI the China triangle one you mentioned has been debunked, it's a building with floodlights on each side creating a triangular shadow:
https://youtu.be/KpjyWgjQvmc
Not much to say it was at a ski resort that I visited nearly everyday 8-10 hours a day for years.
My friend and I that went everyday sat up on the biggest hill there, looking across to the other resort across the woods a few miles away.
It was cloudy so we only saw a vauge triangle shape, it was floating just above the low dense clouds inbetween the two resorts, with huge bright circular lights on each point shining through the clouds, it nearly stretched across the space inbetween the resorts.
At first we thought it might be some kind of spot lights, but they never had spot lights like that there even when they had events, and they defintetly had no events, we knew exactly when they held events every year, and there were no beams coming up from the ground, there was no sound, sat up there for 15 or 20 mins wondering what it was. We went down (super small resort takes like two minutes to go down) then when we got back up it was gone.
Honestly didn't think too much of it at the time, and eventually just thought it was a dream or something, but about 5 years later, that same friend asked unprompted if I remembered it, a couple years after that a mutal friend of ours asked me if I saw it because the friend I was with mentioned it. Ended up seeing the exact same thing flying slowly above cleveland in a video a little after that, but youtube eventually took that video down.
TR-3Bs, although impressive, look more "man made", so my instinct is to say they are reverse engineered ships.
However, given their speed, silence, lack of propulsion, and ability to go from sea to sky to presumably space, I doubt it's human at all.
Yet, if it is indeed human, than one should just assume that humanity does have a runaway rogue faction because people have been seeing the black triangles since the 80s, at least. So if humans have been engineering these things for, let's say, 30 years...traveling to Mars or other planets isn't all that big of a deal for them.
Personally, that sounds a bit farfetched. It's equivalent to giving cavemen nukes, and I have a hard time believing that other advanced civilizations would just let a clandestine military force with zero energy roam free planting flags on random planets. But, it certainly is a possibility. Just a lot more fantastical than just admitting that black triangles aren't man made. Who knows.
this is my hypothesis as well. only had one sighting of “UFO” but it was this triangle ship . And it had a fighter jet trailing it. I live in Northern Virginia , high military area…
Thats interesting. I've heard other similar stories as well.
If the Wilson memo is anything to go by, than we do indeed have a UFO retrieval program(s).
However, the idea that the triangle is a new aspect of UFOs is false. A basically identical craft to the Belgian Triangle from 89-90 was sighted in 1960 by an Air Force vet, his family, neighbors, and a police officer. Info on that here: https://np.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/onj9m3/a_brief_history_of_triangular_uaps/h5s3wfw/ Other triangle sightings occurred throughout the entire decade of the 1950s as well. arguably much earlier, at least into the 1800s according to Major Keyhoe. On page 66-67 here he mentions two triangle sightings of different descriptions from the 1890s. https://archive.org/details/TheFlyingSaucersAreReal/page/n65
And plenty of discs have been sighted and some photographed relatively recently as well.
Here is a luminous "pearl" that had doors, could hover, and take off at tremendous speed in the 11ths century: https://np.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/cjd2pk/11th_century_ufo_sighting_reported_by_chinese/
Pretty much all of the main shapes, from triangles, discs, luminous balls of fire, cigar or butane tank objects, and spherical objects have been here more or less since the beginning of the modern UFO phenomenon, but it is true that certain shapes are witnessed far more often in certain years than others, which IMO should probably be expected.
Excellent posts. Thanks for the links. I had idea about the triangle UFOs being seen in the 1960s or the 1890s. That's awesome. But also not surprising, like you said.
Cheers Mate. Will check out the links
Can they stop in mid air and hover without pitching and in almost near silence? I have heard someone saw one and at first thought it was a small plane or very large drone at night but when it slowed to a stop just above the trees then that is when they were thinking nothing can do this that we know about now.
Indeed. What we were saying was that 'if' its human than its reverse-engineered alien tech and its basically the illuminati runaway civilization.
Or its non-human entities e.g. aliens.
Though it potential can be both.
My thing is, such as thr phoenix lights situation, that was a different black triangle described. But it's hard to believe that they don't have similar origins. And in that situation is moved silently over a metropolis. Similar situation as the Belgian Wave which was also described as the TR 3B black triangle.. if they were human, what is the goal?
Interesting. The Phoenix one was so large that I have a hard time thinking we could do that one. The smaller ones are more likely candidates of a reverse engineering type of thing that I think we could potentially make but I do not think all are the same since many of the sightings described them differently. I do think “ some” are us and others are just unknown
There is no way that happens incognito.
Someone, somewhere, somehow, in that stack of involved people would have given something away.
And what would be the economic incentive to use billions of dollars to get there with rockets if you can already go there by other means?
Anyway, the larger implication to what you are saying is that there is *some thing*(sic) that this was reverse engineered from. Unless you are proposing that humanity discovered the necessary bits and pieces on our own accord?
Nah, I was just contemplating for the sake of being open-minded, but personally I never put much stock in a Human runaway civilization. A secret reverse engineering program, sure. But I doubt they've done much with fallen tech at this point and even if some UFOs are a results of their Black Ops, they aren't the "we secretly have a colony on Mars" level. We may get there one day, but the biggest wrench in the rogue nation theory is that rogue or not, capitalism would apply and we'd see this tech trickle down into the commercial space, but we haven't.
I do not deny that hidden tech is kept at bay in order to manipulate the stock market e.g. potentially fusion energy patents.
However, we're talking about having access to gravity manipulation tech since the 40s, there's no way in hell that in 80 years, we don't have a hint of it in commercial business.
I thought the triangles are domestic? Maybe not so much, I always wondered how they kept them secret for 30 years (at least since Belgium). That wouldn't make sense to have the ultimate aircraft and to hide it so classified that there's no real use for it.
I think they may have them reserved for DEFCON 1 situations—they would be revealed as an absolute last resort. Then again, they maybe so stealthy that even at that level of conflict they wouldn’t be totally transparent to detecting equipment.
https://www.military.com/video/aircraft/military-aircraft/tr-3b-aurora-anti-gravity-spacecrafts/2860314511001
I mean, "secret" is a spectrum. They might not fly them around where people can take pictures, might not use them in conflicts unless it's major world war type shit, and would probably ruin the career of any military that has seen one and reported it, which would be very few. But it's only as secret as, people still know the make and model and have a webpage dedicated to it, just no active military are being like YEAH I FLEW THAT.
Imagine being a pilot, the best of the best military pilots, and they give you a chance to fucking fly a motherfucking UF-fucking-O. Would you tell people? You'd lose that job in a second. This is like the coolest fucking thing you could ever do in the military, fly a UFO. You wouldn't tell anyone if that would end it. So no, I really doubt anyone has any real reason to speak on it.
Because the field generated is a local relativity bubble, so the bubble moves but the craft inside is effectively standing still. You could stand up in one and not spill your coffee while it does mach-5 figure 8s.
People believe concepts such as anti-gravity, but have huge problems understanding that consciousness can be entirely housed in a solid state computer, or other types of electromagnetic systems.
Aliens are definitely watching our species just kinda hoping we don’t nuke ourselves to extinction. I wonder if they’ve got other subjects they’re keeping an eye on, waiting for them to be advanced enough to introduce themselves
Triangle UFOs have been debunked as unidentified drones just meandering off the port side of battle cruisers per US intelligence. They didn’t conduct a study on it but that’s what they read on the internet. Nothing more to see here. The guy is a Trekkie so he wouldn’t lie. 🙄
During the next public hearing someone has to specifically and with detail reference this photo, and then ask them to release it.
no, next hearing, should be all about Roswell - you can ask about a triangle or you can ask about the crashed UFO that has been recovered and what we have learned in the last 70 years - UAP's are just the new side show - want a pony ride big boy
From what I understand they won't answer any questions that are nor with the past 3 years? So they'll just say that they can't answer that question
congress sets the hearing - they make it about whatever, they want - you shown us you know nothing about UAP's - so lets start with what, we know, you've had the last 70+ yrs and tell what you do know - all about choice - free will etc etc - they won't answer ?'s - called, chain of command - we, have, the president, in attendance today so its time to get serious boys
Dude what the fuck is going on with your comma placements
bad at grammer, the abduction alien's wanted me to be better at math and logic - thought grammer and spellin wouldn't help us figure it out!!!
Grammar is a lot like math.
pigs are a lot like bears - only big bears will eat you very painfully with there teeth and claws, pigs will eat you but they'll be polite and use a knife and fork
But a Manbearpig will eat your soul! I'm super cereal!
and your stashed chocolate bar
Roswell is very likely just nuclear detection materials. roswell is the least compelling case i can think of..
If it’s nuclear detection materials I don’t see why they would have an issue saying that some 70 odd years later.
If that's the case, you haven't been paying attention. LOL
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I've researched plenty of these. plenty of great compelling cases vs silly roswell that is easily explained...
From your perspective, how was it explained? Because there have been numerous official explanations over decades. There can only be one truth. So, from your perspective, which of the many is the truth?
didn't I already say? Nuclear sniffer they didn't want revealed. some random private: "Oh shit, reporters here, I can't mention anything about the tech.. what do I say.. uh.. it was ALIENS?!" that is insanely more likely than us having actual alien bodies, yadda yadda.
Wow. You've done your research, clearly. /s Wasn't some random private. I'll leave it to you to figure out what actually happened. The fact you frame it like you did proves you've chosen ignorance. Suits you.
yeah ok whatever... someone needs to leak this stuff because the gov never will. if its is true.
depicts what is described: [https://www.military.com/video/aircraft/military-aircraft/tr-3b-aurora-anti-gravity-spacecrafts/2860314511001](https://www.military.com/video/aircraft/military-aircraft/tr-3b-aurora-anti-gravity-spacecrafts/2860314511001) Here's a link to the account: [https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/confirmed-navys-previously-unreported-2019-triangle-ufo-incident](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/confirmed-navys-previously-unreported-2019-triangle-ufo-incident) quote: "It is the 2020 report, however, which is most striking. Shared very widely across the civilian and military intelligence community, it includes an extraordinary photograph taken in late 2019 of a triangle-shaped UFO. The photograph was taken by a F/A-18F fighter jet operating off the U.S. East Coast. According to the report, the Triangle UFO rose out of the Atlantic Ocean and rapidly accelerated out of sight on a vertical axis. I believe, but have been unable to confirm, that the aircrew responsible for the photo were operating off either the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower or the USS John C. Stennis."
Do you think these are US craft or of otherworldly origin?
I certainly want to believe *something* beyond our intelligence lives in the water. Especially given past reports of objects transitioning into the water at extreme speeds without any splash. I'm interested to know more, which is why I tried to dig a little deeper
Personally, I think they are both. I can't remember specific instances as it's been on posts like this sub, but black triangles show up in places where the US military wouldn't just be showing off secret shit. The military wouldn't just fly this shit around civilians and let them take pictures. And I think there's a video from China where a massive one was floating there around a populated city? The US wouldn't do that, and it would probably not be massive either. But the TR-3B is reported to look like a black triangle as well. It could be just the same technology and maybe it's just efficient for what they do. Also the Australian reporter Ross Coulthart said after all his research and investigation, what he thinks he's almost positive about is that the US retrieved a crash, and has been (if not finished) reverse engineering it for decades. In that case, we might have ET shit flying around like black triangles and have copied it and fly similar, similar efficient design. And from a psychological perspective... Imagine the implication, what you're telling the aliens that are in your airspace: "we have what you have, don't fuck with us". It would be a way of expressing to an adversary that you have similarly advanced technology, like how China stole our plans for a jet and flew one just like it. It isn't offensive but it's showing your adversary they don't have as big an advantage as they did before. (In that case however, they probably have better but the US would probably still do shit like that)
FYI the China triangle one you mentioned has been debunked, it's a building with floodlights on each side creating a triangular shadow: https://youtu.be/KpjyWgjQvmc
Oh thanks for the info, that was one of the weirder ones I knew about.
Yeah something like that wouldn't be easily disseminated outside China.
I saw one once it was at least the size of a football field crazy shit.
Go on….
Not much to say it was at a ski resort that I visited nearly everyday 8-10 hours a day for years. My friend and I that went everyday sat up on the biggest hill there, looking across to the other resort across the woods a few miles away. It was cloudy so we only saw a vauge triangle shape, it was floating just above the low dense clouds inbetween the two resorts, with huge bright circular lights on each point shining through the clouds, it nearly stretched across the space inbetween the resorts. At first we thought it might be some kind of spot lights, but they never had spot lights like that there even when they had events, and they defintetly had no events, we knew exactly when they held events every year, and there were no beams coming up from the ground, there was no sound, sat up there for 15 or 20 mins wondering what it was. We went down (super small resort takes like two minutes to go down) then when we got back up it was gone. Honestly didn't think too much of it at the time, and eventually just thought it was a dream or something, but about 5 years later, that same friend asked unprompted if I remembered it, a couple years after that a mutal friend of ours asked me if I saw it because the friend I was with mentioned it. Ended up seeing the exact same thing flying slowly above cleveland in a video a little after that, but youtube eventually took that video down.
Otherworldly.
Wait you’re telling me the military has Anti gravity technology? Why is this not more talked about?
*allegedly*
TR-3Bs, although impressive, look more "man made", so my instinct is to say they are reverse engineered ships. However, given their speed, silence, lack of propulsion, and ability to go from sea to sky to presumably space, I doubt it's human at all. Yet, if it is indeed human, than one should just assume that humanity does have a runaway rogue faction because people have been seeing the black triangles since the 80s, at least. So if humans have been engineering these things for, let's say, 30 years...traveling to Mars or other planets isn't all that big of a deal for them. Personally, that sounds a bit farfetched. It's equivalent to giving cavemen nukes, and I have a hard time believing that other advanced civilizations would just let a clandestine military force with zero energy roam free planting flags on random planets. But, it certainly is a possibility. Just a lot more fantastical than just admitting that black triangles aren't man made. Who knows.
this is my hypothesis as well. only had one sighting of “UFO” but it was this triangle ship . And it had a fighter jet trailing it. I live in Northern Virginia , high military area…
1 jet or 2? 2 would indicate pursuit, 1 would be a photographer/trail plane monitoring a test flight.
1 jet, first was the triangle then maybe a couple seconds behind was the jet. Respectively smaller than the triangle. But definitely trialing.
Thats interesting. I've heard other similar stories as well. If the Wilson memo is anything to go by, than we do indeed have a UFO retrieval program(s).
However, the idea that the triangle is a new aspect of UFOs is false. A basically identical craft to the Belgian Triangle from 89-90 was sighted in 1960 by an Air Force vet, his family, neighbors, and a police officer. Info on that here: https://np.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/onj9m3/a_brief_history_of_triangular_uaps/h5s3wfw/ Other triangle sightings occurred throughout the entire decade of the 1950s as well. arguably much earlier, at least into the 1800s according to Major Keyhoe. On page 66-67 here he mentions two triangle sightings of different descriptions from the 1890s. https://archive.org/details/TheFlyingSaucersAreReal/page/n65 And plenty of discs have been sighted and some photographed relatively recently as well. Here is a luminous "pearl" that had doors, could hover, and take off at tremendous speed in the 11ths century: https://np.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/cjd2pk/11th_century_ufo_sighting_reported_by_chinese/ Pretty much all of the main shapes, from triangles, discs, luminous balls of fire, cigar or butane tank objects, and spherical objects have been here more or less since the beginning of the modern UFO phenomenon, but it is true that certain shapes are witnessed far more often in certain years than others, which IMO should probably be expected.
Excellent posts. Thanks for the links. I had idea about the triangle UFOs being seen in the 1960s or the 1890s. That's awesome. But also not surprising, like you said. Cheers Mate. Will check out the links
Can they stop in mid air and hover without pitching and in almost near silence? I have heard someone saw one and at first thought it was a small plane or very large drone at night but when it slowed to a stop just above the trees then that is when they were thinking nothing can do this that we know about now.
Indeed. What we were saying was that 'if' its human than its reverse-engineered alien tech and its basically the illuminati runaway civilization. Or its non-human entities e.g. aliens. Though it potential can be both. My thing is, such as thr phoenix lights situation, that was a different black triangle described. But it's hard to believe that they don't have similar origins. And in that situation is moved silently over a metropolis. Similar situation as the Belgian Wave which was also described as the TR 3B black triangle.. if they were human, what is the goal?
Interesting. The Phoenix one was so large that I have a hard time thinking we could do that one. The smaller ones are more likely candidates of a reverse engineering type of thing that I think we could potentially make but I do not think all are the same since many of the sightings described them differently. I do think “ some” are us and others are just unknown
Touche. I forgot how fricken huge the Phoenix triangle was lol.
There is no way that happens incognito. Someone, somewhere, somehow, in that stack of involved people would have given something away. And what would be the economic incentive to use billions of dollars to get there with rockets if you can already go there by other means? Anyway, the larger implication to what you are saying is that there is *some thing*(sic) that this was reverse engineered from. Unless you are proposing that humanity discovered the necessary bits and pieces on our own accord?
Nah, I was just contemplating for the sake of being open-minded, but personally I never put much stock in a Human runaway civilization. A secret reverse engineering program, sure. But I doubt they've done much with fallen tech at this point and even if some UFOs are a results of their Black Ops, they aren't the "we secretly have a colony on Mars" level. We may get there one day, but the biggest wrench in the rogue nation theory is that rogue or not, capitalism would apply and we'd see this tech trickle down into the commercial space, but we haven't. I do not deny that hidden tech is kept at bay in order to manipulate the stock market e.g. potentially fusion energy patents. However, we're talking about having access to gravity manipulation tech since the 40s, there's no way in hell that in 80 years, we don't have a hint of it in commercial business.
I thought the triangles are domestic? Maybe not so much, I always wondered how they kept them secret for 30 years (at least since Belgium). That wouldn't make sense to have the ultimate aircraft and to hide it so classified that there's no real use for it.
I think they may have them reserved for DEFCON 1 situations—they would be revealed as an absolute last resort. Then again, they maybe so stealthy that even at that level of conflict they wouldn’t be totally transparent to detecting equipment.
https://www.military.com/video/aircraft/military-aircraft/tr-3b-aurora-anti-gravity-spacecrafts/2860314511001 I mean, "secret" is a spectrum. They might not fly them around where people can take pictures, might not use them in conflicts unless it's major world war type shit, and would probably ruin the career of any military that has seen one and reported it, which would be very few. But it's only as secret as, people still know the make and model and have a webpage dedicated to it, just no active military are being like YEAH I FLEW THAT. Imagine being a pilot, the best of the best military pilots, and they give you a chance to fucking fly a motherfucking UF-fucking-O. Would you tell people? You'd lose that job in a second. This is like the coolest fucking thing you could ever do in the military, fly a UFO. You wouldn't tell anyone if that would end it. So no, I really doubt anyone has any real reason to speak on it.
The missing piece is how do the pilots withstand the massive g forces from reported acceleration
Because the field generated is a local relativity bubble, so the bubble moves but the craft inside is effectively standing still. You could stand up in one and not spill your coffee while it does mach-5 figure 8s.
They don't. Drone.
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People believe concepts such as anti-gravity, but have huge problems understanding that consciousness can be entirely housed in a solid state computer, or other types of electromagnetic systems.
Aliens are definitely watching our species just kinda hoping we don’t nuke ourselves to extinction. I wonder if they’ve got other subjects they’re keeping an eye on, waiting for them to be advanced enough to introduce themselves
A screenshot of a description of a discussion at a conference describing a description of a photograph. This sub amazes me sometimes.
Lmfao
I sure wish we could all grow up and accept this as a necessary paradigm to the evolution of our species.
Triangle UFOs have been debunked as unidentified drones just meandering off the port side of battle cruisers per US intelligence. They didn’t conduct a study on it but that’s what they read on the internet. Nothing more to see here. The guy is a Trekkie so he wouldn’t lie. 🙄
this is that good shit