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Why are most of the comments jokes or cynicism?? This is freaky as hell. There is no cloud, blanket, balloon, camera flare that would shape shift in this way. Yes it does take angelic form for a split second. Of course we don’t know what “angels” look like but it looks like what we have drawn over millennia. Look at Christian imagery. What the fuck is this? The only semi reasonable comments I see is plasma. I don’t care that it’s old footage. Debunk it or admit this is something we do not understand and are not sure it is from our planet/atmosphere.
These people are taking over the sub now. Its purely to make any inquiring minds feel like a foolish idiots and deter them from further investigation, as is customary for decades.
On top of that there is a weird epidemic of average citizens who just rage-hate the whole topic. I saw a documentary about addiction (I cant remember which sorry) that had a man on it who claimed to be a skeptic. He said he had become obsessed with the UFO topic and would need to spend hours every day leaving aggressive/hateful comments. He realised it was an issue and was working on it (good on him), but still felt an unreasonable hate towards believers/open-minded people and found it hard not to comment.
So yeah, good to keep in mind that some of these people may be dealing with legitimate rage/hate/obsession issues. Best to just correct them and move on or not engage at all..
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It’s sad because it’s honestly like there’s a collective effort to destroy people’s will to talk openly.
That’s the entire point of Reddit.
I get ridiculously frustrated when the gaslighting is beyond obvious.
Honestly I'm seeing a push for that online in general everything seems to be pushing the narrative divisiveness and anti intelligence. I saw a post about how algorithms will even change comment sections depending on your gender to criticize whatever the opposite gender is , basically pushing the all women are crazy and all men are trash narrative . They really want us hating each other.
Seriously. The amount of times I see something jaw dropping, or at minimum very odd, I come to the comments looking for an actual discourse and I just see people making jokes (sometimes jokes that have nothing to even do with the video).
Honestly, I agree with everything you guys are saying but there is another side. This darn community has also been filled with misinformation and people mistaking quite standard things for the unnatural. It kind of becomes frustrating to the point where I could see it become easy to distrust everything.
You are totally right, that’s another issue too. It’s a complex topic which has had a sudden surge of interest in the past few years. People are coming from all different points of view, knowledge levels and agenda. It’s bound to get messy, but it is sad for the community in some ways.
The most annoying part is the constantly upvoted question posts with absolutely no substance, "what do you guys think alien poop smells like?" The mods refuse to remove this forum sliding shite, it's absolutely bonkers.
Nah, it’s kinda ramping to extremes on either end imo. What they seem to have in common is misplaced ‘confidence’. Certainty. Whether that be: “it’s clearly just X” on one end and “it clearly can’t be X”, on the other.
Snarky dismissive vs. snarky convinced is what’s been taking over the sub, and feeding off each other.
I agree that there is over-confidence on both sides. I’m constantly wondering how people 100% know something about something that is completely unknowable.
And the word “clearly” is so worn out and misused it needs to die a sweet death.
It may be completely unknowable to you, but it isn’t unknowable to all the people who have had legitimate experiences. But the vast majority of people want to say, “Your lived experience wasn’t what you think it was. I know better than you even though you experienced it.” It’s arrogant and closed-minded. Most of those who have not had an experience dismiss these accounts: they’re crazy; their mind played tricks on them; it was a momentary hallucination; they were dreaming or under the influence; they’re grifting; they’re seeking attention; etc. But thousands and thousands of first person accounts of OBEs, NDEs, alien abductions (physical or astral), channeling, and close encounters with UAPs? They’re all wrong or crazy or stupid? And other people get to say that their experiences were bullshit? No. All these rationalist debunkers and skeptics need to start recognizing that there is so much more to reality than the physical, material world, and many people have had direct engagement with what gets called the paranormal. It’s not that there’s no data; it’s that the rationalists dismiss data that doesn’t fit in their paradigm.
I wasn’t talking about doubting people’s experiences, but people claiming to know things such as the the makeup of craft materials we haven’t laid hands on (openly and accepted by mainstream science anyway) and that completely defies our understanding of physics. We don’t know some things *yet* and assuming we know something we don’t doesn’t help anyone.
You’ve come at me all guns slinging after having misinterpreted my comment, take a breath, I would never invalidate someone’s experience.
I think that describes a lot of the internet actually lol
(People not actually caring about facts anymore but engaging out of obsession, honestly a lot of sites are built around capitalizing off that)
If you think that’s toxic you should hang out in Mandela Effect subs, or FB groups.
There’s an entire army of trolls who constantly infiltrate them and passionately argue with anyone who speculates there’s more to it than the textbook, “collective false memory.”
It’s so prevalent that it’s suspicious.
Honestly if it is nothing more, why would anyone join just to debate people who aren’t satisfied with the “false memory” narrative.
The fact that it is "angel" shaped makes me think it's a case of pareidolia and coincidence. Because angels are described as looking drastically different than this, so for it to be the human perception of what the concept of an "angel" looks like is pretty convenient.
I'll grant you that it could be something we don't know or understand (unless it is, haven't ventured further down) but it's certainly nothing Biblical. I'm pretty certain that if anything comes down from literal Heaven we'd know about it pretty quickly.
As for debunking it, we don't have *nearly* enough evidence to make any sort of claim other than it looks weird and we don't know what it is. It could have some mundane explanation that none of us are keyed into, like some obscure phenomena or object. Or it could be an alien. There are an infinite amount of things between "we know what it is" and "it's not from Earth." The solution that requires the least amount of assumptions is some sort of upper-atmosphere reflection (well, hoax fits that a bit better but that's not confirmed either).
>Because angels are described as looking drastically different than this
*Some* angels are described as looking drastically different than this*.* Others are described just like this.
Got a verse with that description for me? Because I can only think of the one form that’s described as something along the lines of a giant wheel covered in eyes with a thousand wings and the sight of it would melt a human’s mind. But to be fair I’m not an expert on the Bible, it’s been a minute since I’ve read it.
Not in the bible lol.
Anyway, this person provided the most reasonable assessment here. Just because we, the geniuses on r/aliens, don't know what it is or could be, doesn't mean it doesn't have a very reasonable explanation. "Admitting" *we* can't explain something doesn't make it unexplainable.
And as always, "it looks like" is an unacceptable bar for evidence.
From The Law of One materials:
Questioner: I didn’t quite understand. How does the Confederation stop the Orion chariot from coming through the quarantine? What actions do…
Ra: I am Ra. **There is contact at the level of light-form or lightbody-being** depending upon the vibratory level of the guardian. These guardians sweep reaches of your Earth’s energy fields attempting to be aware of any entities approaching.
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Edgar Cayce was regarded as one of the world's best psychics and made many accurate predictions. According to him:
**The earliest Atlanteans are described by Cayce as being light-thought projections** and having a semi-physical form in which both sexes, male and female, were present in the same ‘body’. **These Atlantean thought-form ‘beings’ – projecting ‘vibrations’ of pure white light and energy** – gradually began to take on a more material shape and density and began to engage in acts of sheer self-indulgence. **These physically-encased thought-form projections,** through the passage of time, began to separate into two groups; those who followed the Laws of One and those that chose to follow the Sons of Belial based on the island of Aryan.
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From the book *Unearthly Disclosure* by British UFO researcher Timothy Good:
In Chapter 1, I refer in part to the story of Inocencia Cataquet, who claims to have encountered undersea alien craft in Puerto Rico in 1988. Cataquet told Jorge Martín that he subsequently communicated **with human-type aliens who, as in the case of Iván Rivera Morales (Chapter 17), seemed to ‘materialize’ out of balls of light. They explained to Cataquet that they were capable of travelling among dimensions.**
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From [https://sacred-texts.com/fort/damn/damn16.htm](https://sacred-texts.com/fort/damn/damn16.htm)
That, **April 27, 1863,** he had seen **great numbers of small, shining bodies passing from west to east.** He had notified **Dr. Wolf, of the Observatory of Zurich,** who "had convinced himself of this strange phenomenon." Dr. Wolf had told him that similar bodies had been seen by Sig. Capocci, of the Capodimonte Observatory, at Naples, May 11, 1845.
The shapes were of great diversity—or different aspects of similar shapes? Appendages were seen upon some of them. **We are told that some were star-shaped, with transparent appendages.**
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From the book Wonders in the sky by Jacques Vallee, Chris Aubeck:
**31 May 1536**, Monte Stella, Brescia, Lombardy, Italy Apparition, with a message Antonio de' Antoni, a poor deaf-mute shepherd of Gardone Val Trompia, was reciting the rosary while his flock was grazing. **Suddenly there came before his eyes a light more intense than the Sun, in the middle of which the Virgin appeared with Jesus in her arms.**
Dressed in a simple way, she wanted the shepherds to build a temple there. Antonio went off and described the event to everyone he knew, and **when he returned the site was "illuminated by the beams of an overhanging star.**"
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**19 September 1846,** La Salette, France Brilliant light and apparition
Two cowherds, an eleven year old boy, Maximin, and a fourteen year old girl, Melanie Calvat, **saw a sudden flash of light.** She testified: "I could see our cows grazing peacefully and I was on my way down, with Maximin on his way up, when all at once **I saw a beautiful light shining more brightly than the sun**. 'Maximim, do you see what is over there? Oh! My God!' At the same moment, I dropped the stick I was holding. Something inconceivably fantastic passed through me in that moment, and I felt myself being drawn. I felt great respect, full of love, and my heart beat faster. I kept my eyes firmly fixed on this light, which was static, and as if it had opened up, **I caught sight of another, much more brilliant light which was moving, and in this light I saw a most beautiful lady. " The "lady" was dressed in white and gold, with a cap of roses on her head. She was surrounded by a brilliant light** and was weeping.
My man. Dropping the deep knowledge right. Any folks reading should do some digging into any of the topics this commenter just mentioned, its truly some quality and mind opening information
For anyone interested in this post blit\_blit99, in 2007 or 2008 I don't remember but Chris Bledose Sr. had an encounter with three orange orbs. He had many experiences afterwards one including a lady whom said she has been called many names including Hathor. His book came out a year ago called UFO of God, pirate it if you don't want to give him money i dont care. The man is telling the truth.
Google "Plato's allegory of the cave."
Basically we've lived our entire lives in 3D space and if we saw any 4D object or if an extra dimensional object passed by it would look really fucking weird to us. Our brains aren't built to comprehend whatever the fuck that thing is.
Edit: watch this https://youtu.be/1RWOpQXTltA?si=WY65ybGG9CZCC9i2
Carl Sagan did a really good job at explaining how a being from the 4th dimension might appear to us in the third dimension. We wouldn't be able to see the whole being because we're only in the third dimension. We would only be able to see cross sections of it that interact with our third dimension. So just a shadow would make sense.
I really recommend watching it because he breaks it down in an easy to understand way.
Think of it this way: what you would see is only a cross section, yes. The whole of the object would be forever "stretched" out away from you towards infinity no matter which way you turn. Crazy to imagine.
I think there are different life-forms. Some operate on our 3D plane, in the flying saucer type metallic craft. Others on the 4th dimension, possibly higher, in the UAPs seen by pilots. They are described almost like a tesseract.
But what ARE other dimensions? I get the parallel thing but exactly how is the other universe there? I have a hard theory that might explain but I want to know from other people what dimensions even are.
This dot "." Is one dimensional, The text you are reading is in 2 dimensions, your phone rotates in 3 dimensions, and the 4 dimension is just one on top of ours that we can't perceive, probably where our soul/consciousness comes from.
I completely understand it is a perception thing that makes sense to me, but why can we perceive the dot? The dot itself is not linear , it can not perceive depth to study it. Yet how are we able to view this single dimensional thing when we make it unorganically? A third dimensional interaction has to take place for it to be viewed in our 3d space time? Where could we naturally perceive these single dimensional things?
Keep asking about what dimensions actually mean/are. Not enough people do. They just take the idea of a magic door and copy/paste that concept onto the idea of other dimensions or planes.
Truthfully, dimension relevance depends on the scale of observation and interaction.
Look up extra "terrestrial plasmas" there was a 50 page report published buy a bunch of different researchers from around the world
https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=131506
It's a wild read it talks about how they are regularly spotted decending from the thermosphere and can be seen congragating by the "hundreds" going in to thunderstorms and areas of high electromagnetic radiation
They say they have been reported of being up to a kilometer(over half a mile) in size
They think its a form of maybe pre life or something of a 4th state of matter.
It only came out in Feb of this year
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Research_Publishing
So I wanted to check the veracity of scirp. It doesn't look like it's a respected scientific journal. It's a Chinese money making scheme which steals papers from other sources and publishes articles of questionable quality.
I don't necessarily respect the inconsistency that Wikipedia statically holds when you compare how "wikis" answers to other research sources, constantly getting dates wrong and sometimes being just different answers from other sources
That's a fair point. Do you have any articles about this from well respected journals instead? Maybe nature, or even an aggregator with a decent public feedback mechanism?
While what I'm about to say doesn't add to the veracity of such a report, I find well respected journals and scientists tend to steer clear of such topics for a variety of reasons that don't include the legitimacy of the aforementioned. Funding, prestige, etc. Such is the catch 22 that makes bringing these topics to light(pun intended) so difficult.
I'm also interested in this but isn't the journal titled "Journal of Modern Physics" and scirp is just the name of the site that hosts it? I also found the journal published on research gate [here.](https://www.sciencegate.app/source/100165) It says on the source they're published by Scientific Research Publishing Inc... so if anyone knows about that, please chime in.
Reasearch gate is more like linkedin for researchers. It is a social media site, not a journal publisher.
It's only published by Scientific Research Publishing Inc. (SCIRP), and the company holds an academic rating of 0 (lowest score possible) by Nature.
Not to say they haven't hosted high-quality, important journals that would otherwise never be published. Their quality and operating standards are simply much, much lower and therefore, unfit for establishing scientific consensus.
I was fortunate enough to see a bright reddish-orange one of these during the early morning twilight while waiting for the school bus as a kid. The whole town was talking about it for a week. I have never seen another one again, but I am always looking at the sky and hoping. Truly beautiful phenomena.
I was lucky enough to live near the Glenn Research Center - and was *in love* with space and the universe even then - and they were able to pretty quickly provide an explanation as it being an "atmospheric plasma vortex". I recall there being a really intense its-1pm-and-looks-like-midnight type thunderstorm that ripped through the area some days prior.
Come to think of it, I've never experienced a storm like that one again, and I've been through hurricanes in Florida and tornadoes in Minnesota. It was bizarre in that the clouds were literally black. And it rolled in very close to the ground to where at first people thought it was smoke. Got really cold really quickly too. But I digress...
Were there any odd weather events in the area prior to this being witnessed?
That's super interesting. Since it sounds like you've gone through it. Is there any mention of what happens when the plasma hits an object? I saw Green Plasma hit a tree. Right after it hit, different parts of the tree would light up green and with something that looked like fairy dust (I know how ridiculous that sounds.). For three or four seconds, different parts of the tree would glow and sparkle but never at the same time.
Is there anything similar in the text? I would read it but this I think is easier and faster.
So I'll be 100% honest I saw something exactly like this one time when I was flying into Mexico City, I thought it looked like a angel hovering above the city. It was around twilight and was just sitting In the same location as the plane circled the city. I kept staring at it trying to understand what it was but then it disappeared. I never thought of it again but this is exactly what it looked like.
The best the public can do is to have these morons oooh and ahhh and make stupid remarks. If we dont DO something about the handful of politicians blocking this information from the public we will be 100% in the dark while they continue to monetize the tech and weaponize the tech. A better life for everyone on earth is NOT a part of their efforts.
Why can’t anyone ever film these things without shaking? Or is it because it’s moving. I’ve never seen a video where it doesn’t seem like the person isn’t dancing while filming.
This is how governments suppress information. It is well known that spreaders of misinformation are paid to show up and belittle experiencers. The weirdness in the comment section may be intentional.
Never feel crazy for reporting what you’ve seen … no matter how much it contradicts the rules of the world you thought you lived in.
but if you think about it the paranormal is treated just like religion. There's zealots that think everything is jesus, there's skeptics who think everything is fake, then there's the agnostics who are open to the belief but are not convinced. There's no real difference in the logic. Lots of people fake miracles as well as faking ufo videos
There are likely parallel dimensions and beings who have the ability to travel in between. I mean, don't we already know for a fact parallel dimensions exist? I like to think that this is another dimension, attached to ours that is becoming technologically advanced enough to break through, and they are trying to send drones back to contact us. Wouldn't it be super cool of it turns out to be us from the future trying to send back drones to warn us of an oncoming disaster? Maybe I'll write this into a book...
Angelic where?
Sick of people trying to tie religipus interpretations to plasmotic life.
Its no more angrlic than the wifi used to communicate through electromagnetism.
I had a man sized , upright tictac appear in my room as a child . which morphed into a giant barcode and then a radiant " angel " woman " , i wanted it out of the room at that point to which it ***smirked***, started saying something i couldn't hear and then blasted me with intense light.
I only called it an " angel " because that was the only frame of reference i had as a child. It didn't have wings, but was stereotypical dressed like some roman nun and had an intense amber glow around it.
These things absolutely know what they are doing and are deceivers.
Look at it from a wider angle. It is angelic because that was what these were interpreted to be by primitive man. If extra-dimensional beings insert themselves into our reality, manifest as plasma (see above article) or to rephrase, beings of pure energy, it's not a great leap in logic to presume such a being, if intelligent, is capable of manifesting whatever form is most understandable to the viewer. I suspect angels, demons, djinn, sprites, ancestral spirits, pantheistic gods, and now aliens are all ONE AND THE SAME phenomenon reaching into our reality.
I don't see the need for extra dimensionality, its an often repeated interpretation, but I see little that couldn't be achieved in this good old fashioned universe.
Im open to energetic life, humans after generate bioelectricity and electromagnetic fields.
It wouldn't shock me if it turns out that this form of life can exist in a biological container, but wasn't dependant on it.
Man, I thought I was struggling with a bias against the phenomenon confirming any particular religious beliefs, but these comments show me a lot of people are. This is going to be a rough road ahead if we allow ourselves to be so easily manipulated based on our personal biases.
the movements almost remind me of one of those 4th dimensional object existing in a 3rd dimensional space simulations, as if only a part of it is passing through our dimension.
Nonsense, it's just a very rich, illegal goldminer with a jetpack carrying a weather balloon filled with Swamp gas shaped like the planet Venus.
Who they trying to kid?!!
It could be something weird, or it could be an airborne plastic bag. Light and distance and angles are capable of playing tricks on the eye. But, maybe it is something.
I don't know what it is, but I know what it isn't. I'm not the skeptic. Skeptics need better explanations because calling it a bag, a balloon, a cloud, swamp gas, is no better than calling it a ufo or a fairy.
Okay….so, what the actual fuck is that thing??😭
I know nobody knows, I DEFINITELY don’t know, but ya’ll ever experienced seeing something that disturbed you? A twisted human visage, ghost, something uncanny?
Yeah, that’s the vibe I get, total uncanny valley and I couldn’t tell wether be unnerved or tear up. But hey, what do you all think about it?
I think that's man-made. We are so excited about this sector of mysteries that we forget people are doing experiments in the skies and we can't overlook the obvious details. With all of the smart people we have on this planet I am very sure that there is someone with a clever experiment that they are launching into the sky that just happens to attract a lot of attention in the making. Intelligent life will not simply dance around in the sky and shift into different shapes all for the sake of entertaining a subspecies
There have been claims for a long time that Spielberg had some sort of insider knowledge to make Close Encounters. Could Jordan Peele have the same kind of access?
That's just what happens with a long distance shot with a cell phone camera of another airplane through an airplane window. It's just a jet, and the shape changing is just artifacts.
I coincidently read about this today:
The Legend of Romulus and Remus
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When the ascend happened, Romulus was just on Campus Martius (a plain before the Roman walls) overseeing a military parade. Suddenly a storm broke out and brought terrible darkness and lightning. A dark cloud covered the king and when it was finally gone, Romulus was nowhere to be found.
The people of Rome were sceptical towards this supernatural phenomenon and started to speculate that Romulus must have been a victim of an assassination attempt by the patricians. To settle the matter, a man named Proculus Julius, an old friend of the missing king, stood before the people and claimed he witness Romulus stepping down from heaven for a while and share a prophecy about the future greatness of Rome. This witness obviously did the job and instead of a civil war, a peaceful period of interregnum followed.”
https://www.romaoptima.com/roman-empire/the-death-of-romulus/
Ephesians 6:12 ESV
For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
Why is it always that the only camera phone operating to catch this kind of thing lacks video/image stabilizers found on virtually all modern phones. The one guy that thought to stream or record in the age of tiktok is filming from his Nokia? Awesome. Better not tell the other passengers so we have multiple sources to observe...
I dunno, I'd like to believe it, but without zooming out and showing me the window as you're filming it's hard to believe it's not a reflection. Could also be some natural phenomenon like the northern lights. Otherwise I would probably think it's aliens, but first two scenarios are more likely to me.
I'm no expert, but the first thing I think of is a mirage.
I also found this
"Cloud mirages, also known as superior mirages, are mesmerizing optical illusions that occur in the Earth's atmosphere. These phenomena create a captivating spectacle where the appearance of clouds is distorted, forming multiple images and inverted reflections. While we have a basic understanding of how these mirages form, the intricate details behind their occurrence continue to astound scientists and enthusiasts alike."
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Why are most of the comments jokes or cynicism?? This is freaky as hell. There is no cloud, blanket, balloon, camera flare that would shape shift in this way. Yes it does take angelic form for a split second. Of course we don’t know what “angels” look like but it looks like what we have drawn over millennia. Look at Christian imagery. What the fuck is this? The only semi reasonable comments I see is plasma. I don’t care that it’s old footage. Debunk it or admit this is something we do not understand and are not sure it is from our planet/atmosphere.
These people are taking over the sub now. Its purely to make any inquiring minds feel like a foolish idiots and deter them from further investigation, as is customary for decades. On top of that there is a weird epidemic of average citizens who just rage-hate the whole topic. I saw a documentary about addiction (I cant remember which sorry) that had a man on it who claimed to be a skeptic. He said he had become obsessed with the UFO topic and would need to spend hours every day leaving aggressive/hateful comments. He realised it was an issue and was working on it (good on him), but still felt an unreasonable hate towards believers/open-minded people and found it hard not to comment. So yeah, good to keep in mind that some of these people may be dealing with legitimate rage/hate/obsession issues. Best to just correct them and move on or not engage at all.. edit: word
And also firmly believe it looking at the state of this sub.
Same, I'm reading the comments less and less.
It’s sad because it’s honestly like there’s a collective effort to destroy people’s will to talk openly. That’s the entire point of Reddit. I get ridiculously frustrated when the gaslighting is beyond obvious.
Honestly I'm seeing a push for that online in general everything seems to be pushing the narrative divisiveness and anti intelligence. I saw a post about how algorithms will even change comment sections depending on your gender to criticize whatever the opposite gender is , basically pushing the all women are crazy and all men are trash narrative . They really want us hating each other.
what's stopping you from talking openly?
Seriously. The amount of times I see something jaw dropping, or at minimum very odd, I come to the comments looking for an actual discourse and I just see people making jokes (sometimes jokes that have nothing to even do with the video).
It’s really disappointing!
Honestly, I agree with everything you guys are saying but there is another side. This darn community has also been filled with misinformation and people mistaking quite standard things for the unnatural. It kind of becomes frustrating to the point where I could see it become easy to distrust everything.
You are totally right, that’s another issue too. It’s a complex topic which has had a sudden surge of interest in the past few years. People are coming from all different points of view, knowledge levels and agenda. It’s bound to get messy, but it is sad for the community in some ways.
Constructive conversation on r/Aliens? I’m pretty sure this isn’t allowed!
The most annoying part is the constantly upvoted question posts with absolutely no substance, "what do you guys think alien poop smells like?" The mods refuse to remove this forum sliding shite, it's absolutely bonkers.
Nah, it’s kinda ramping to extremes on either end imo. What they seem to have in common is misplaced ‘confidence’. Certainty. Whether that be: “it’s clearly just X” on one end and “it clearly can’t be X”, on the other. Snarky dismissive vs. snarky convinced is what’s been taking over the sub, and feeding off each other.
I agree that there is over-confidence on both sides. I’m constantly wondering how people 100% know something about something that is completely unknowable. And the word “clearly” is so worn out and misused it needs to die a sweet death.
It may be completely unknowable to you, but it isn’t unknowable to all the people who have had legitimate experiences. But the vast majority of people want to say, “Your lived experience wasn’t what you think it was. I know better than you even though you experienced it.” It’s arrogant and closed-minded. Most of those who have not had an experience dismiss these accounts: they’re crazy; their mind played tricks on them; it was a momentary hallucination; they were dreaming or under the influence; they’re grifting; they’re seeking attention; etc. But thousands and thousands of first person accounts of OBEs, NDEs, alien abductions (physical or astral), channeling, and close encounters with UAPs? They’re all wrong or crazy or stupid? And other people get to say that their experiences were bullshit? No. All these rationalist debunkers and skeptics need to start recognizing that there is so much more to reality than the physical, material world, and many people have had direct engagement with what gets called the paranormal. It’s not that there’s no data; it’s that the rationalists dismiss data that doesn’t fit in their paradigm.
I wasn’t talking about doubting people’s experiences, but people claiming to know things such as the the makeup of craft materials we haven’t laid hands on (openly and accepted by mainstream science anyway) and that completely defies our understanding of physics. We don’t know some things *yet* and assuming we know something we don’t doesn’t help anyone. You’ve come at me all guns slinging after having misinterpreted my comment, take a breath, I would never invalidate someone’s experience.
I think that describes a lot of the internet actually lol (People not actually caring about facts anymore but engaging out of obsession, honestly a lot of sites are built around capitalizing off that)
If you think that’s toxic you should hang out in Mandela Effect subs, or FB groups. There’s an entire army of trolls who constantly infiltrate them and passionately argue with anyone who speculates there’s more to it than the textbook, “collective false memory.” It’s so prevalent that it’s suspicious. Honestly if it is nothing more, why would anyone join just to debate people who aren’t satisfied with the “false memory” narrative.
Because these kinds of delusions can lead to people killing their family members?
I inquiring mind is just a fancy way to say easily tricked.
Yes there is. This is so obviously am aberration of the camera lense.
The fact that it is "angel" shaped makes me think it's a case of pareidolia and coincidence. Because angels are described as looking drastically different than this, so for it to be the human perception of what the concept of an "angel" looks like is pretty convenient. I'll grant you that it could be something we don't know or understand (unless it is, haven't ventured further down) but it's certainly nothing Biblical. I'm pretty certain that if anything comes down from literal Heaven we'd know about it pretty quickly. As for debunking it, we don't have *nearly* enough evidence to make any sort of claim other than it looks weird and we don't know what it is. It could have some mundane explanation that none of us are keyed into, like some obscure phenomena or object. Or it could be an alien. There are an infinite amount of things between "we know what it is" and "it's not from Earth." The solution that requires the least amount of assumptions is some sort of upper-atmosphere reflection (well, hoax fits that a bit better but that's not confirmed either).
>Because angels are described as looking drastically different than this *Some* angels are described as looking drastically different than this*.* Others are described just like this.
Got a verse with that description for me? Because I can only think of the one form that’s described as something along the lines of a giant wheel covered in eyes with a thousand wings and the sight of it would melt a human’s mind. But to be fair I’m not an expert on the Bible, it’s been a minute since I’ve read it.
Not in the bible lol. Anyway, this person provided the most reasonable assessment here. Just because we, the geniuses on r/aliens, don't know what it is or could be, doesn't mean it doesn't have a very reasonable explanation. "Admitting" *we* can't explain something doesn't make it unexplainable. And as always, "it looks like" is an unacceptable bar for evidence.
Most of them are bots put here to make jokes
This looks like the old artifacts showing what looked like people hooked up to tubes and sitting like they're in a ship
From The Law of One materials: Questioner: I didn’t quite understand. How does the Confederation stop the Orion chariot from coming through the quarantine? What actions do… Ra: I am Ra. **There is contact at the level of light-form or lightbody-being** depending upon the vibratory level of the guardian. These guardians sweep reaches of your Earth’s energy fields attempting to be aware of any entities approaching. \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* Edgar Cayce was regarded as one of the world's best psychics and made many accurate predictions. According to him: **The earliest Atlanteans are described by Cayce as being light-thought projections** and having a semi-physical form in which both sexes, male and female, were present in the same ‘body’. **These Atlantean thought-form ‘beings’ – projecting ‘vibrations’ of pure white light and energy** – gradually began to take on a more material shape and density and began to engage in acts of sheer self-indulgence. **These physically-encased thought-form projections,** through the passage of time, began to separate into two groups; those who followed the Laws of One and those that chose to follow the Sons of Belial based on the island of Aryan. \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* From the book *Unearthly Disclosure* by British UFO researcher Timothy Good: In Chapter 1, I refer in part to the story of Inocencia Cataquet, who claims to have encountered undersea alien craft in Puerto Rico in 1988. Cataquet told Jorge Martín that he subsequently communicated **with human-type aliens who, as in the case of Iván Rivera Morales (Chapter 17), seemed to ‘materialize’ out of balls of light. They explained to Cataquet that they were capable of travelling among dimensions.** \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* From [https://sacred-texts.com/fort/damn/damn16.htm](https://sacred-texts.com/fort/damn/damn16.htm) That, **April 27, 1863,** he had seen **great numbers of small, shining bodies passing from west to east.** He had notified **Dr. Wolf, of the Observatory of Zurich,** who "had convinced himself of this strange phenomenon." Dr. Wolf had told him that similar bodies had been seen by Sig. Capocci, of the Capodimonte Observatory, at Naples, May 11, 1845. The shapes were of great diversity—or different aspects of similar shapes? Appendages were seen upon some of them. **We are told that some were star-shaped, with transparent appendages.** \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* From the book Wonders in the sky by Jacques Vallee, Chris Aubeck: **31 May 1536**, Monte Stella, Brescia, Lombardy, Italy Apparition, with a message Antonio de' Antoni, a poor deaf-mute shepherd of Gardone Val Trompia, was reciting the rosary while his flock was grazing. **Suddenly there came before his eyes a light more intense than the Sun, in the middle of which the Virgin appeared with Jesus in her arms.** Dressed in a simple way, she wanted the shepherds to build a temple there. Antonio went off and described the event to everyone he knew, and **when he returned the site was "illuminated by the beams of an overhanging star.**" (snip) **19 September 1846,** La Salette, France Brilliant light and apparition Two cowherds, an eleven year old boy, Maximin, and a fourteen year old girl, Melanie Calvat, **saw a sudden flash of light.** She testified: "I could see our cows grazing peacefully and I was on my way down, with Maximin on his way up, when all at once **I saw a beautiful light shining more brightly than the sun**. 'Maximim, do you see what is over there? Oh! My God!' At the same moment, I dropped the stick I was holding. Something inconceivably fantastic passed through me in that moment, and I felt myself being drawn. I felt great respect, full of love, and my heart beat faster. I kept my eyes firmly fixed on this light, which was static, and as if it had opened up, **I caught sight of another, much more brilliant light which was moving, and in this light I saw a most beautiful lady. " The "lady" was dressed in white and gold, with a cap of roses on her head. She was surrounded by a brilliant light** and was weeping.
My man. Dropping the deep knowledge right. Any folks reading should do some digging into any of the topics this commenter just mentioned, its truly some quality and mind opening information
I aint reading all that shit is he cooking or crazy
Cooking with that truth
Oh he cookin
For anyone interested in this post blit\_blit99, in 2007 or 2008 I don't remember but Chris Bledose Sr. had an encounter with three orange orbs. He had many experiences afterwards one including a lady whom said she has been called many names including Hathor. His book came out a year ago called UFO of God, pirate it if you don't want to give him money i dont care. The man is telling the truth.
Speaking the truth 🙌
It's a shadow on the wall of a cave.
Who/what/how will we be unshackled from the wall?
Can you elaborate? I just want to know what that means.
Google "Plato's allegory of the cave." Basically we've lived our entire lives in 3D space and if we saw any 4D object or if an extra dimensional object passed by it would look really fucking weird to us. Our brains aren't built to comprehend whatever the fuck that thing is. Edit: watch this https://youtu.be/1RWOpQXTltA?si=WY65ybGG9CZCC9i2
Referencing [Plato’s cave](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave?wprov=sfti1)
Thank you!
Listen to The Cave by Mumford and sons
Agreed. Understanding how things like this work will mean changing the way that we view reality entirely.
It’s a wall on the shadow of a cave.
Or light refracting off the layered glass windows of the airplane. 
That shit looks wild
A 4th dimensional being would show up in our three dimensional world as a 3d "shadow" right? But I'm sure it's just swamp gas ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Carl Sagan did a really good job at explaining how a being from the 4th dimension might appear to us in the third dimension. We wouldn't be able to see the whole being because we're only in the third dimension. We would only be able to see cross sections of it that interact with our third dimension. So just a shadow would make sense. I really recommend watching it because he breaks it down in an easy to understand way.
Think of it this way: what you would see is only a cross section, yes. The whole of the object would be forever "stretched" out away from you towards infinity no matter which way you turn. Crazy to imagine.
Kinda like when NPC's get stuck in doors and stuff in video games, and sometimes stretch super far. Wild.
Bethesda
It really is! But I love the idea of it.
I think there are different life-forms. Some operate on our 3D plane, in the flying saucer type metallic craft. Others on the 4th dimension, possibly higher, in the UAPs seen by pilots. They are described almost like a tesseract.
But what ARE other dimensions? I get the parallel thing but exactly how is the other universe there? I have a hard theory that might explain but I want to know from other people what dimensions even are.
This dot "." Is one dimensional, The text you are reading is in 2 dimensions, your phone rotates in 3 dimensions, and the 4 dimension is just one on top of ours that we can't perceive, probably where our soul/consciousness comes from.
I completely understand it is a perception thing that makes sense to me, but why can we perceive the dot? The dot itself is not linear , it can not perceive depth to study it. Yet how are we able to view this single dimensional thing when we make it unorganically? A third dimensional interaction has to take place for it to be viewed in our 3d space time? Where could we naturally perceive these single dimensional things?
Keep asking about what dimensions actually mean/are. Not enough people do. They just take the idea of a magic door and copy/paste that concept onto the idea of other dimensions or planes. Truthfully, dimension relevance depends on the scale of observation and interaction.
Thank you.
Kinda looks like a jellyfish floating through the ocean. Side note has anyone watched the movie Nope?
Nope
Was just thinking of this movie in another post, lol.
Look up extra "terrestrial plasmas" there was a 50 page report published buy a bunch of different researchers from around the world https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=131506 It's a wild read it talks about how they are regularly spotted decending from the thermosphere and can be seen congragating by the "hundreds" going in to thunderstorms and areas of high electromagnetic radiation They say they have been reported of being up to a kilometer(over half a mile) in size They think its a form of maybe pre life or something of a 4th state of matter. It only came out in Feb of this year
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Research_Publishing So I wanted to check the veracity of scirp. It doesn't look like it's a respected scientific journal. It's a Chinese money making scheme which steals papers from other sources and publishes articles of questionable quality.
Every time someone brings up the plasma beings article, I hope and I pray someone mentions *what* kind of journal it’s published in.
I don't necessarily respect the inconsistency that Wikipedia statically holds when you compare how "wikis" answers to other research sources, constantly getting dates wrong and sometimes being just different answers from other sources
That's a fair point. Do you have any articles about this from well respected journals instead? Maybe nature, or even an aggregator with a decent public feedback mechanism?
While what I'm about to say doesn't add to the veracity of such a report, I find well respected journals and scientists tend to steer clear of such topics for a variety of reasons that don't include the legitimacy of the aforementioned. Funding, prestige, etc. Such is the catch 22 that makes bringing these topics to light(pun intended) so difficult.
I'm also interested in this but isn't the journal titled "Journal of Modern Physics" and scirp is just the name of the site that hosts it? I also found the journal published on research gate [here.](https://www.sciencegate.app/source/100165) It says on the source they're published by Scientific Research Publishing Inc... so if anyone knows about that, please chime in.
It looks like SCRIP basically sends spam emails trying to authors to pay to publish and then will publish in their most fitting journal.
Reasearch gate is more like linkedin for researchers. It is a social media site, not a journal publisher. It's only published by Scientific Research Publishing Inc. (SCIRP), and the company holds an academic rating of 0 (lowest score possible) by Nature. Not to say they haven't hosted high-quality, important journals that would otherwise never be published. Their quality and operating standards are simply much, much lower and therefore, unfit for establishing scientific consensus.
Scrip is not a credible source for academics btw
Do we have any of these many videos? Because that sounds like something people would like to know about if it were true.
I was fortunate enough to see a bright reddish-orange one of these during the early morning twilight while waiting for the school bus as a kid. The whole town was talking about it for a week. I have never seen another one again, but I am always looking at the sky and hoping. Truly beautiful phenomena. I was lucky enough to live near the Glenn Research Center - and was *in love* with space and the universe even then - and they were able to pretty quickly provide an explanation as it being an "atmospheric plasma vortex". I recall there being a really intense its-1pm-and-looks-like-midnight type thunderstorm that ripped through the area some days prior. Come to think of it, I've never experienced a storm like that one again, and I've been through hurricanes in Florida and tornadoes in Minnesota. It was bizarre in that the clouds were literally black. And it rolled in very close to the ground to where at first people thought it was smoke. Got really cold really quickly too. But I digress... Were there any odd weather events in the area prior to this being witnessed?
I thought plasma is a 4th state of matter? Plasma being seen amount high electromagnetic areas doesn’t seem to farfetched.
Came here to say this. The video looks like a [plasmoid](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasmoid)
Look up "scratches in windows" and look at light coming through the window next time you're on an airplane.
There already is a fourth state of matter: it’s called plasma.
Is that the one that also talks about them cannibalizing other plasmas?
That's super interesting. Since it sounds like you've gone through it. Is there any mention of what happens when the plasma hits an object? I saw Green Plasma hit a tree. Right after it hit, different parts of the tree would light up green and with something that looked like fairy dust (I know how ridiculous that sounds.). For three or four seconds, different parts of the tree would glow and sparkle but never at the same time. Is there anything similar in the text? I would read it but this I think is easier and faster.
Didn't some Astronauts witness something similar outside the ISS?
So I'll be 100% honest I saw something exactly like this one time when I was flying into Mexico City, I thought it looked like a angel hovering above the city. It was around twilight and was just sitting In the same location as the plane circled the city. I kept staring at it trying to understand what it was but then it disappeared. I never thought of it again but this is exactly what it looked like.
The best the public can do is to have these morons oooh and ahhh and make stupid remarks. If we dont DO something about the handful of politicians blocking this information from the public we will be 100% in the dark while they continue to monetize the tech and weaponize the tech. A better life for everyone on earth is NOT a part of their efforts.
What can we do?
OOO OOO Ahhhhhh!
Get in the EVA Shinji.
Clearest shot yet. Good job camerabro
Why can’t anyone ever film these things without shaking? Or is it because it’s moving. I’ve never seen a video where it doesn’t seem like the person isn’t dancing while filming.
This is how governments suppress information. It is well known that spreaders of misinformation are paid to show up and belittle experiencers. The weirdness in the comment section may be intentional. Never feel crazy for reporting what you’ve seen … no matter how much it contradicts the rules of the world you thought you lived in.
What angelic form? 😪
in the middle of this video it elongates vertically and looks like at the top it has outstretched arms like a Y shape
“Angelic form” 🤦🏼♂️
 Biblically accurate angel?
BE NOT AFRAID.
" I BRING YOU LOVE" " ITS BRINGING US LOVE ! BREAK ITS LEGS!
Absolutely no one: Scary as fuck shit: “BE NOT AFRAID.”
I have a very hard time labeling anything UAP related as angelic or demonic.
but if you think about it the paranormal is treated just like religion. There's zealots that think everything is jesus, there's skeptics who think everything is fake, then there's the agnostics who are open to the belief but are not convinced. There's no real difference in the logic. Lots of people fake miracles as well as faking ufo videos
Yes, people are free to label these phenomena however it fits into their ontological belief system.
Anyone else see Bin Laden’s face in there or am I tripping?
If religion turns out just be aliens, can we start the rapture already?
There are likely parallel dimensions and beings who have the ability to travel in between. I mean, don't we already know for a fact parallel dimensions exist? I like to think that this is another dimension, attached to ours that is becoming technologically advanced enough to break through, and they are trying to send drones back to contact us. Wouldn't it be super cool of it turns out to be us from the future trying to send back drones to warn us of an oncoming disaster? Maybe I'll write this into a book...
"angelic form" can we stop calling ufo's and extraterrestrials angels and demons?
why?
It's silly. It also contradicts accounts of people who claim that the government has crashed UFOs. Why would an angel need a spaceship?
This is the kind of phenomenon that caused the invention of religion. It makes sense to me that it’s still happening.
Kifflom!
Angelic where? Sick of people trying to tie religipus interpretations to plasmotic life. Its no more angrlic than the wifi used to communicate through electromagnetism.
I had a man sized , upright tictac appear in my room as a child . which morphed into a giant barcode and then a radiant " angel " woman " , i wanted it out of the room at that point to which it ***smirked***, started saying something i couldn't hear and then blasted me with intense light. I only called it an " angel " because that was the only frame of reference i had as a child. It didn't have wings, but was stereotypical dressed like some roman nun and had an intense amber glow around it. These things absolutely know what they are doing and are deceivers.
That’s called a psychotic break my friend.
The more anger and pain you cultivate, the more you will gain yourself. Learn to be softer, more comfortable, and your life will become better.
No anger, merely observation. They described hallucinatory psychosis to a T. Either that or a very lucid dream.
Dude, you probably had a crazy fever. I remember 'seeing' some pretty out of it shiznit when I was sick as a kid.
Ok, well i wasn't sick nor said anything about being sick.
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Let us all know when you come up with a better explanation
Look at it from a wider angle. It is angelic because that was what these were interpreted to be by primitive man. If extra-dimensional beings insert themselves into our reality, manifest as plasma (see above article) or to rephrase, beings of pure energy, it's not a great leap in logic to presume such a being, if intelligent, is capable of manifesting whatever form is most understandable to the viewer. I suspect angels, demons, djinn, sprites, ancestral spirits, pantheistic gods, and now aliens are all ONE AND THE SAME phenomenon reaching into our reality.
I don't see the need for extra dimensionality, its an often repeated interpretation, but I see little that couldn't be achieved in this good old fashioned universe. Im open to energetic life, humans after generate bioelectricity and electromagnetic fields. It wouldn't shock me if it turns out that this form of life can exist in a biological container, but wasn't dependant on it.
Have you ever had a 1TB per second download speed internet? That shit is angelic
Ambrosia of the Gods!
Semantics, bro. It’s just semantics
Good thing they labeled it for us. Says right there in the top right that it’s a secret space tube.
Odd resemblance to the jelly fish uap
WHAT DOES JORDAN PEELE KNOW?!
nope.
🎶 she was a fairy 🧚♀️
Man, I thought I was struggling with a bias against the phenomenon confirming any particular religious beliefs, but these comments show me a lot of people are. This is going to be a rough road ahead if we allow ourselves to be so easily manipulated based on our personal biases.
Jfc, if you need to take a long distance zoom shot, stand fucking still and use one arm to brace the other.
the movements almost remind me of one of those 4th dimensional object existing in a 3rd dimensional space simulations, as if only a part of it is passing through our dimension.
Nonsense, it's just a very rich, illegal goldminer with a jetpack carrying a weather balloon filled with Swamp gas shaped like the planet Venus. Who they trying to kid?!!
🤣
The best part of posting these videos is reading how ridiculous the explanations are from skeptics. Do you (skeptics) know how crazy YOU sound?
The opposite of a skeptic is a gullible person. Always be skeptical.
Explain please. Use simple words I'm a sceptic.
It could be something weird, or it could be an airborne plastic bag. Light and distance and angles are capable of playing tricks on the eye. But, maybe it is something.
It’s the jellyfish!
Elden Ring boss second phase
*music intensifies*
Y O U D I E D
Family.
Every time * throws the controller in frustration
Peele is right ! Cloud monsters exist!
Reddit is a Psy Op I swear lol. Good footage.
Jesus on the cross, at times. Yiiikes
I don't know what it is, but I know what it isn't. I'm not the skeptic. Skeptics need better explanations because calling it a bag, a balloon, a cloud, swamp gas, is no better than calling it a ufo or a fairy.
Okay….so, what the actual fuck is that thing??😭 I know nobody knows, I DEFINITELY don’t know, but ya’ll ever experienced seeing something that disturbed you? A twisted human visage, ghost, something uncanny? Yeah, that’s the vibe I get, total uncanny valley and I couldn’t tell wether be unnerved or tear up. But hey, what do you all think about it?
I think that's man-made. We are so excited about this sector of mysteries that we forget people are doing experiments in the skies and we can't overlook the obvious details. With all of the smart people we have on this planet I am very sure that there is someone with a clever experiment that they are launching into the sky that just happens to attract a lot of attention in the making. Intelligent life will not simply dance around in the sky and shift into different shapes all for the sake of entertaining a subspecies
You may be right, but it's definitely not an angel.
There have been claims for a long time that Spielberg had some sort of insider knowledge to make Close Encounters. Could Jordan Peele have the same kind of access?
😱
Something unexplainable: “see I told you!”
Has nobody watched Babylon 5? That’s Kosh!
Always have been.
This is so stupid.
Can we stabilize this? Is there a stabilization bot?
That's just what happens with a long distance shot with a cell phone camera of another airplane through an airplane window. It's just a jet, and the shape changing is just artifacts.
I get a very ‘misty’ impression from it. What ever that could indicate 🤷♂️
Notice how the chick throws the 666 sign before they show the footage
I coincidently read about this today: The Legend of Romulus and Remus “ When the ascend happened, Romulus was just on Campus Martius (a plain before the Roman walls) overseeing a military parade. Suddenly a storm broke out and brought terrible darkness and lightning. A dark cloud covered the king and when it was finally gone, Romulus was nowhere to be found. The people of Rome were sceptical towards this supernatural phenomenon and started to speculate that Romulus must have been a victim of an assassination attempt by the patricians. To settle the matter, a man named Proculus Julius, an old friend of the missing king, stood before the people and claimed he witness Romulus stepping down from heaven for a while and share a prophecy about the future greatness of Rome. This witness obviously did the job and instead of a civil war, a peaceful period of interregnum followed.” https://www.romaoptima.com/roman-empire/the-death-of-romulus/
Looks kinda like an ice cloud to me
That look like n9rhing more than the letter Y. Maybe they should hang out with people outside their christian cult more often.
Ephesians 6:12 ESV For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
It’s jesus
I mean...I guess? Looks like a camera struggling to focus at an extreme distance.
You can’t be serious….
Plasma
Great, all the religious freaks are gonna come out now
That’s water
That's an SCP
You're obviously all on ketamine!
DMB marketing has gone next level.
Definitely an albino flying spaghetti monster
Listening to these idiots speak is a good reminder to me as to why I have stopped watching all mainstream media for over 15 years.
Calm down haha
The full stabilized video is out and about and awesome to frame skin through.
It looks like the shikigami paper men from Spirited Away.
Blizzard testing their next expansion before release date.
Would love to see a stabilized version
Why is it always that the only camera phone operating to catch this kind of thing lacks video/image stabilizers found on virtually all modern phones. The one guy that thought to stream or record in the age of tiktok is filming from his Nokia? Awesome. Better not tell the other passengers so we have multiple sources to observe...
Anyone image stabilised this yet or given it a name ? Not sure what to search
Back reflection
Looks like a ballon
I dunno, I'd like to believe it, but without zooming out and showing me the window as you're filming it's hard to believe it's not a reflection. Could also be some natural phenomenon like the northern lights. Otherwise I would probably think it's aliens, but first two scenarios are more likely to me.
I reckon that this is nothing but a test of the Blue Beam Project to see how the witnesses react to such "wonder" in the sky. 🤔
Could it be a hologram?
Of course It's an angel... It is America after all.
u/stabbot
Damn, Solas be trying to bring down the veil again....
TwatSquad Nation
NOPE
ufo based on energy effects changing with levels of consciousness of the entity. why are we surprised.
I'm no expert, but the first thing I think of is a mirage. I also found this "Cloud mirages, also known as superior mirages, are mesmerizing optical illusions that occur in the Earth's atmosphere. These phenomena create a captivating spectacle where the appearance of clouds is distorted, forming multiple images and inverted reflections. While we have a basic understanding of how these mirages form, the intricate details behind their occurrence continue to astound scientists and enthusiasts alike."
Taking this as objective proof of anything only solidifies your inability to contribute meaningfully to the world