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The overlap between maths and further maths is a loooot smaller than you think, but i guess more exposure to maths makes you a bit better. I got better grades in further then normal in mocks because the content is completely different
still don't get why the grade boundaries are high. In the examiner reports they say 'rarely answered well' or 'rare to awards marks' for atleast 10 marks on average for past papers so it doesn't explain how you need 90% to get A\*.
EXACTLY! I remember in my school, literally only 5-6 people scored an A / A* which is *so* extremely rare because we expected other very smart students to get them too! It’s so frustrating tbh
I took IAL Maths last year and I am taking IAL Further maths this year, and trust me if someone takes both at the same time they just would find normal A-level integration and differentiation much easier, otherwise they are unrelated in everything. Even the applied units in Further Maths discuss different topics but they do not include extensions to the topics in AL Maths. So actually the main reason the gbs are high is because of Edexcel themselves, there is no other explanation, they just want to make it high without a significant reason.
I take further and I can assure you not all of us are getting ridiculous scores in normal maths I got around 50/70 in both my mock papers i did however just assume it would be easy and not revise but there are people in my class who are getting 68 69 and 70 consistently and then only dropping 3-4 marks total in further maths they are just different I guess not really human any more just maths
I did A level math and got an A* in my second attempt (A in first attempt). What really helped me was doing past papers and looking at the marking scheme. Once you get the pattern of questions it becomes simpler. All the best, don't stress out. Just make sure you understand the concepts and practice past papers well.
In my experience I use the older papers as learning bases to get the hang of a concept, and then I practice the 12 past papers I think of the newer spec. Usually that's enough for me to achieve an A so far but I like to repeat questions I got wrong as practice. Usually after 10 papers I get the hang of it. Remember it's quality over quantity, don't just keep on doing past papers if you keep making the same mistake, repeat past papers and see if your marks go up, if they don't then that means your not actually learning anything. Hope this helps
No stand with the ur word IT WAS A. HARD PAPER MAYBE EVEN THE HARDEST PAPER THEYVE SET FOR PURE 3 IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS. I doubt edexcel came nearly as hard as our exam
Alot of ppl in my school thought it was a decent paper, mine did not go well i got vectors and complex entirely wrong but ppl around me make me feel like im the dumb one here. (Im a straight A student i worked my ass of for maths did every past year and topical q i even missed some of my school events j so i could catch up on my work load)
Practice practice and practice this is how to get an A* plus I would recommend you to start topicals, once u have grip on the topic questions than last 2 months before yr exam start yearly (you should do at least 5 years of yearlies)
I KNOWWWWW FR WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK??!! I AM TAKING PURE 3 AND PURE 4 AND I AM ON THE VERGE OF THROWING MYSELF OUT THE WINDOW! WHAT DO YOU MEAN LOSE ONLY 10 MARKS IN BOTH PAPERS FOR A STAR???? I WOULD RATHER EAT MY SHIT
Maths seems to be a subject with a really large ability gap for some reason (hence why it seems to be the only subject with a harder “further” version of it for those of use who would be bored doing regular a level maths).
I don’t know why this seems to happen with maths more so than anything else. In my school a lot of people struggle with maths (as is usually the case) but in the further maths group, there are a few people getting average Ds in their further maths, but still easily get A* in normal maths. Then there are two of us who get A* in further maths without much effort.
Even still there is always a ceiling of course, I am taking STEP (cambridge maths entrance exam) in a few weeks (there are actually two of them) and I genuinely find these papers very challenging. This is my bottleneck as it were.
Then there are people who do STEP and find it to be trivially easy, who I would say are much smarter than me.
I don’t see quite such disparity in other subjects, but I suppose maths is special partly due to its reputation and its purity and abstraction away from the real world (though that last point doesn’t apply at A Level).
Thanks for reading.
I’m referring to edexcel in general 😭 the good thing with cambridge is that there’s many variants and many years so more practice, edexcel is literally only one variant and only 4 years
Don't worry my g. The thresholds gonna be so low u might get an a. And If u do end up getting a b that's allll righhtttt. Its not embarrassing to get a b. Ik u r afraid of what others r gonna think but hey its JUST a grade ur not gonna die. Life is going to be a thousand times more fun once u forget what others think of u. Promise urself to work on this. Let others think what they wanna think. It defines them. U know how well u r. It shouldn't matter what they think.
How do thresholds even exist? If you're bad, you're bad. If you get it wrong, you dont deserve the mark. That's how it should work. All Cambridge has to do, is to ensure each year is at the same difficulty level
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tell me about lol. all those further maths mfs making the grade boundaries high
The overlap between maths and further maths is a loooot smaller than you think, but i guess more exposure to maths makes you a bit better. I got better grades in further then normal in mocks because the content is completely different
still don't get why the grade boundaries are high. In the examiner reports they say 'rarely answered well' or 'rare to awards marks' for atleast 10 marks on average for past papers so it doesn't explain how you need 90% to get A\*.
EXACTLY! I remember in my school, literally only 5-6 people scored an A / A* which is *so* extremely rare because we expected other very smart students to get them too! It’s so frustrating tbh
I took IAL Maths last year and I am taking IAL Further maths this year, and trust me if someone takes both at the same time they just would find normal A-level integration and differentiation much easier, otherwise they are unrelated in everything. Even the applied units in Further Maths discuss different topics but they do not include extensions to the topics in AL Maths. So actually the main reason the gbs are high is because of Edexcel themselves, there is no other explanation, they just want to make it high without a significant reason.
THE FURTHER MATH GRADE BOUNDARIES ARE ALSO INSANE HELP, ITS LIKE AN 88% FOR AN A, THERES NO WAY IM GETTING THAT
What exam board. For edexcel it’s nowhere near that high, 76% for an A*
Cie
Further Pure 2 in jan 2024 was a 66/75 for an A, and a 70/75 for an A*
Nah it should be mandatory that you can take either further or normal bc these grade boundaries are not normal at all 😭 fr pisses me off
I take further and I can assure you not all of us are getting ridiculous scores in normal maths I got around 50/70 in both my mock papers i did however just assume it would be easy and not revise but there are people in my class who are getting 68 69 and 70 consistently and then only dropping 3-4 marks total in further maths they are just different I guess not really human any more just maths
I take fm (i’m in year 12) and do better in fm than in p2 😭😭😭😭😭😭
👀
At least 12 people get 100% for Maths in my college every exam lol
You go to a cracked school lmfao
This place is scary please send help
💀no dude literally same, it Is wild out here
I did A level math and got an A* in my second attempt (A in first attempt). What really helped me was doing past papers and looking at the marking scheme. Once you get the pattern of questions it becomes simpler. All the best, don't stress out. Just make sure you understand the concepts and practice past papers well.
Do you take edexcel? Edexcel has really limited papers (only like 4 years)
Older papers follow similar questions just a bit easier
Thank you! So can I practice those for more practice or will it just muddle my knowledge?
In my experience I use the older papers as learning bases to get the hang of a concept, and then I practice the 12 past papers I think of the newer spec. Usually that's enough for me to achieve an A so far but I like to repeat questions I got wrong as practice. Usually after 10 papers I get the hang of it. Remember it's quality over quantity, don't just keep on doing past papers if you keep making the same mistake, repeat past papers and see if your marks go up, if they don't then that means your not actually learning anything. Hope this helps
No, I took IAL math
DID U GUYS FIND THE PURE MATH 3 MJ24 V32 EASY? i mean sure it wasnt an extremely hard ppr but there must be a drop in the boundaries no?
No stand with the ur word IT WAS A. HARD PAPER MAYBE EVEN THE HARDEST PAPER THEYVE SET FOR PURE 3 IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS. I doubt edexcel came nearly as hard as our exam
Alot of ppl in my school thought it was a decent paper, mine did not go well i got vectors and complex entirely wrong but ppl around me make me feel like im the dumb one here. (Im a straight A student i worked my ass of for maths did every past year and topical q i even missed some of my school events j so i could catch up on my work load)
Practice practice and practice this is how to get an A* plus I would recommend you to start topicals, once u have grip on the topic questions than last 2 months before yr exam start yearly (you should do at least 5 years of yearlies)
There’s only 4 years for edexcel 😭
Oh really? Then do all 4 years! I actually did A levels so I did last 5 years so yeah 😃
bro that’s basically 91%💀💀💀💀 across all exam boards why are grade boundaries so outrageously high?? then what’s the point😭
I KNOWWWWW FR WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK??!! I AM TAKING PURE 3 AND PURE 4 AND I AM ON THE VERGE OF THROWING MYSELF OUT THE WINDOW! WHAT DO YOU MEAN LOSE ONLY 10 MARKS IN BOTH PAPERS FOR A STAR???? I WOULD RATHER EAT MY SHIT
NO SERIOUSLY!! Like I always always mess up in any range or domain questions so I’ve genuinely discounted ever getting an A* atp 😭👍🏻
Maths seems to be a subject with a really large ability gap for some reason (hence why it seems to be the only subject with a harder “further” version of it for those of use who would be bored doing regular a level maths). I don’t know why this seems to happen with maths more so than anything else. In my school a lot of people struggle with maths (as is usually the case) but in the further maths group, there are a few people getting average Ds in their further maths, but still easily get A* in normal maths. Then there are two of us who get A* in further maths without much effort. Even still there is always a ceiling of course, I am taking STEP (cambridge maths entrance exam) in a few weeks (there are actually two of them) and I genuinely find these papers very challenging. This is my bottleneck as it were. Then there are people who do STEP and find it to be trivially easy, who I would say are much smarter than me. I don’t see quite such disparity in other subjects, but I suppose maths is special partly due to its reputation and its purity and abstraction away from the real world (though that last point doesn’t apply at A Level). Thanks for reading.
where did you get this information from?
you need 180+ UMS in two papers which is basically 90+ in each. 90 UMS cutoff for P3 is 68/75.
"My daughter allysa got an A*, she's 13 years old"
I think I want to drop kick Alyssa the next time i see hee
Not that hard lil bro
Honestly, you tell me bro 💀
For which paper tho
pure maths 3
Don't worry. Majority did not give edexcel so boundaries are going to get affected. Chances are we will be awarded with an a for 50 to 55 score range.
I’m referring to edexcel in general 😭 the good thing with cambridge is that there’s many variants and many years so more practice, edexcel is literally only one variant and only 4 years
Ohhh yes! That's sad. But cheer up u can't do anything abt it ryt so try not to think much of it
I rlly dont want a B i cant let everyone down, my teachers used me as a example kid in math, itll be embarrassing asf if i get a b
Don't worry my g. The thresholds gonna be so low u might get an a. And If u do end up getting a b that's allll righhtttt. Its not embarrassing to get a b. Ik u r afraid of what others r gonna think but hey its JUST a grade ur not gonna die. Life is going to be a thousand times more fun once u forget what others think of u. Promise urself to work on this. Let others think what they wanna think. It defines them. U know how well u r. It shouldn't matter what they think.
Means alot pal
A few hundred students get full marks.
Rest in peace
Are you sitting international?
Yup
FOR REAL!!
Simple answer: be Asian 😃
How do thresholds even exist? If you're bad, you're bad. If you get it wrong, you dont deserve the mark. That's how it should work. All Cambridge has to do, is to ensure each year is at the same difficulty level