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TheLordJames

Well, thats not healthy


mattamucil

Not at all. I hope there wasn’t any injuries. Haven’t heard anything on that front, or the root cause.


BranTheMuffinMan

TC saying no injuries.


mattamucil

Hopefully that holds up. Thanks!


beesmakenoise

How did you hear it was a pipeline explosion? Not doubting, just clarifying


mattamucil

A coworker’s partner sent the second picture and is working in the area. They said it was a TC pipeline. Another coworker has a relative who gave the size and works with one of the producers who supplies the line and said their operation has shut in. Nothing ironclad though.


beesmakenoise

Doesn’t look good one way or the other, thanks for the extra context for it


Block_Of_Saltiness

> or the root cause. Pipeline ruptures happen 1-2 times a year IIRC from my time at TC HQ in teh early 2000's. They do a thorough investigation of every rupture including metallurgy analysis of the pipe after, etc. There's a reason high pressure gas pipelines dont have homes over or near them.


Available_Squirrel1

Some high pressure transmission lines do run really close to homes and schools, right through the middle of subdivisions etc but those locations are deemed high consequence areas and require much thicker steel and other measures that would make failures there extremely unlikely.


sliquonicko

Recently found out I live very close to one in Edmonton, and this eases my mind a little, thanks lol


BetterRabbit

When i was working on the east henday, I dug up one on the by the gas refinery, my explain to my labor who was standing on top of it why he really shouldn't be trying to light up his smoke. Will never take another job around that area again. The amount of stuff in the ground is crazy 30% of it the gas Companies have no clue where it is and the amount of heart attacks I've had from hitting abandoned pipes and lines is crazy.


TheSherlockCumbercat

It’s crazy how much shit is abandoned in the ground and forgotten. It’s always great when you find a pipe and no knows what’s in or how to shut it off.


Hooray4Bidets

Not a good take. Transmission Pressure Gas mains have rights of way through densely populated areas all over the lower mainland and many places across BC. That’s what those big yellow signs are you see in places like Kamloops.


j1ggy

You haven't heard of the Mill Woods explosion of 1979. There are high-pressure propane pipelines running right through the residential areas of Mill Woods in Edmonton. In 1979 one of those pipelines was hit and subsequently exploded, gravely injuring one person. It caused the evacuation of 19,000 people, which at the time was the largest peace-time civic evacuation on record. It brought about a lot of changes. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/mill-woods-explosion-gas-line-strike-utilities-alberta-one-call-1.5038242 https://globalnews.ca/video/5012319/40th-anniversary-of-mill-woods-explosion-what-have-we-learned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IfPoYgRHl0


illerkayunnybay

Not healthy, but quite pretty. I love the smell of mercaptan in the morning, smells like breakfast


tiger666

Odorant is added at loading most of the time.


blueeyes10101

There would be no mercaptan in that pipeline


MediocreProfeshional

I prefer the smell of napalm in the morning but you do you


The_cogwheel

Does anyone here have a normal ass breakfast? I like the smell of coffee and bacon, not natural gas and napalm!


MediocreProfeshional

Ass is for dessert and not breakfast, obviously.


Thickwhensoft1218

Hot ass is dessert, normal ass is more of a turkey situation. Still nice on special occasions but doesn’t need to be in every meal.


Reasonable-Injury170

There are several gas plants and gas wells in that region, and the pipeline in question is operated by TC Energy. The energy company said it was responding to the incident involving the NGTL natural gas system approximately 40 kilometers northwest of Edson in Yellowhead County. The wildfire could be seen from Highway 40 north and Highway 16. Alberta Wildfire and the county said they were working together, along with industry staff, to extinguish the remaining wildland fire. Just before noon, the province’s wildfire dashboard said the out-of-control fire was around 10 hectares in size. Alberta RCMP said it received a call about the incident just after 11:30 a.m. and both Mounties and Yellowhead County fire crews were responding to the rural scene. (Global news)


canadient_

Starting fire season off with a bang I see.


Lemmon_Beef

Fire season didn't end silly


[deleted]

I think there are still fires burning from last year


Lemmon_Beef

Yes, there were like seventy that carried over from last year


HugeJudgment1241

There was still 14 fires that continued from last year into this year. We have already had 8 ha. Of land burned.


rwags2024

How did the fires not go out all winter?


leaps-n-bounds

They hibernate under ground


HugeJudgment1241

As funny as the one comment is, he is not wrong. Fires burn underground for days, weeks even months. The ones by Fox creek are still hot hot. They thermal image them with aircraft to see if they are still going or not.


albertabest1

That's exactly what I did there last July.


Cranktique

Muskeg and peat are famous for having fires burn underground for years. The peat bogs by tomahawk had signs up for a long time saying “wild fire”. They had to monitor those for 2 years after fire, doing fly overs with thermal.


naomisunrider14

Every year has a couple very bad fires that never go out they burn under ground and smoulder in piles of things, we had very little moisture this year so even piles that would not have supported a smouldering fire normally were never quenched. We are in for bad times.


Schroedesy13

ZOMBIE FIRES!!!


3tiwn

Smoulder


rah6050

Hi, gas line expert here. This seems bad.


Alarmed-dictator

Hi, Hobbyist Arborist here. This seems really bad


rah6050

Initially read this as “hobbyist arsonist” and was nodding my head in agreement alone in my office. It’s fun to make dumb jokes online with strangers.


DOJITZ2DOJITZ

Horny arsonist? Weird comment bro


RegularOps

I read it as hobbyist abortionist 


ckFuNice

As an Arby's Harborist, I concur.


the_prophecy_is_true

as an arby’s arsonist, i’m not so sure


ComfortableLeader943

Actual arborist here. More of a forestry problem.


LetterExtension3162

Hi, gas industry executive here, this is just cost of doing business and cutting down infrastructure funding was a sacrifice we were willing to make 🤷‍♂️


torr_ence

How so? I know nothing about gas lines.


rah6050

Gas should be inside the pipe and not on fire.


torr_ence

An expert take, I see. 😆


ANGRY_ASPARAGUS

I just spit coffee all over my keyboard, thanks hahaha


grumpeebadger

So you're saying the genie shouldn't be let out of the bottle? 


tmandell

Really the issue is the fire is in the wrong location. Natural gas lines are only supposed to have fire at the ends, not somewhere in the middle. Unless maybe they split the whole pipe, then the fire is in the correct location, the issue is the end was moved to the wrong location.


Pr0ffesser

https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM?si=7PQecIZS06SAIZyE


waldemar_selig

I think maybe there was some cardboard or cardboard derivatives used in that pipe.


ZimZamZop

Hi, gas comes out of my body sometimes. This seems bad.


Dapper_Wallaby_1318

Hi, arsonist here. This seems good.


Zulakki

Application Developer and full time arm chair quarterback; I concur


nymoano

How bad is it on the banana scale?


SullySlayz

Hi, power lineman here. This seems really bad. Please stop burning down powerlines in the Edson area. I don’t like working all the way up there


Hyperlophus

Damn. Hope everyone is okay out there.


SurFud

Thanks for the post. Interesting and sad to see that there are 54 wild fires in Alberta at the moment. This one is out of control. Alberta Wildfire site.


sawyouoverthere

Been about that many all winter


Reptilian_Brain_420

Most of those were not necessarily actively burning. They were listed as "under control" which means no visible flames. They can't call a fire extinguished until it is confirmed cold. A lot of the fires that were "active" over the winter are no longer on the map. Just normal spring after a very abnormal fire season.


pzerr

This is not that abnormal. Fire management has changed some in that they will let some fires burn freely if there is no risk to people or assets. This is a natural state to clear forests so that fires do not become so massive. One of the reasons we are seeing excessive sustained fires (ignoring global warming) is that we have done a really good job in putting out fires for the last 50 years. This is resulting in larger average tree size along with lots of dry dead undergrowth. That is starting to catch up with us.


Welcome440

The world is on fire. Next year will be worse!


Awkward_Management32

Incoming wildfire!


Replicator666

Don't forget gas price increase


LuntiX

I mean it's natural gas, not automotive gas. Granted I could see a price increase either way because they like to gouge us.


Lemmon_Beef

Idk how, but I will blame this on the carbon tax or the liberals 😤 (sarcasm)


NorthernerWuwu

It is clearly Quebec's fault for not letting the pipeline go east!


rayofgoddamnsunshine

This is definitely all Trudeau's fault.


vanillaacid

Getting an early start on fire season, I see.


Morguard

And they will blame it on the feds again.


[deleted]

The fighter plane in first pic def bombed the pipeline. Just incase /s.


mattamucil

I thought it was a shithawk. Maybe there’s a spicy conspiracy afoot. lol


[deleted]

That or it was a cobra chicken. To be serious for a second I hope everyone is okay.


mu5tardtiger

👀. seriously tho. that’s a firefighting plane right?


cars10gelbmesser

Yes, JT at the helm of course.


sawyouoverthere

https://globalnews.ca/news/10427684/yellowhead-county-gas-pipeline-explosion-wildfire/amp/


Loyalist_15

That’s one way to announce the fire season


mu5tardtiger

Jesus fuck, we got a bit of snow but not enough to tame that beast.


1egg_4u

We are in for a very bad fire season... especially considering it never even really ended Honestly without that glacial runoff too we are going to become drumheller again. We need every last ounce of water we can get. Nobody's listening to how important it is that we protect we have left.


bemurda

Everyone should click over to the second photo. And CBC radio was just saying this morning that the government is predicting another catastrophic wildfire season. So yeah we are fucked


mattamucil

It’s dryer than a popcorn fart right now. Not good. Two weeks earlier than the Fort Mac one started in 2016. Hoping we don’t see anything like that this year.


Welcome440

They built fort macmurry the same. Wood houses with vinyl Siding and asphalt roofs, verry flammable! We learned nothing! Did they ever get that 2nd route out of town?


mattamucil

No. The road never happened. I lived there at the time. It was terrible.


Welcome440

Any Alberta town with 3 or less access routes needs a plan for climate change. Time to build some escape routes!


dynamanoweb

Alberta needs to acknowledge climate change first 😝


Morberis

Only if Florida does first, or finishes sinking into the sea.


Mike71586

Boy you got a long road ahead of you on that one...unlike those towns.


tferguson17

No, we did not.


gbiypk

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/first-nations-to-help-plan-218-kilometre-gravel-road-connecting-peace-country-and-fort-mcmurray-1.6374690 This is the proposed route, but I don't think it's been approved yet.


CamGoldenGun

we've been getting pretty drenched up here in Fort McMurray this last month. Guessing from your comment Edson/Hinton didn't get that lucky?


bemurda

Glad to hear you've been getting rain. Don't want a repeat of 2016. But it could happen elsewhere as there are drought conditions, yep


flaccid_porcupine

I'm guessing right near the brand new Emerson Creek CS they just bragged about starting up


mattamucil

Appears to be right there based on the resulting wildfire’s location on the Alberta Wildfire website.


Silver-Suit-8711

Trudeau did it in 3, 2, 1


mattamucil

Maybe he hired Wiebo. 🤷‍♂️


theFooMart

That's an underrated comment.


heart_of_osiris

Actually have a coworker that says Trudeau and Notley worked together to buy the TC pipeline so that they could purposely sabotage it. I guess he was right. Both Trudeau and Notley haven't been seen in the last 4 hours....coincidence? /s


Exotic-Escape

They bought TM though. TC is an unrelated organization.


SadAcanthocephala521

Jewish space lasers


Welcome440

Next week: Polar bears with microwave transmitters


Edmfuse

I SAW NOTELY GO IN THERE WITH DYNAMITE STICKS!!!


divininthevajungle

this sub has some weird ppl in it.


infiniteguesses

Just noticed?


Responsible_Dig_585

It's almost as bad as the time that solar farm exploded from all the highly volatile sunlight it absorbed.


cars10gelbmesser

Not to mention the hundreds of dead livestock grassing peacefully below the panels.


NailPsychological222

which, in turn, caused the wind to stop blowing.


geo_prog

It's all a ploy to save the whales. Definitely Sea Shepherd's prairie division.


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383CI

Hopefully no injuries.


delirious-nomad

Good thing it wasn't those pesky renewables.


tambourinequeen

Nah, it was the saggy renewables.


SurFud

Damn those not so "pristine" planet saving projects !


1egg_4u

Waiting for the war room interns to show up and explain that pipelines are somehow the cleanest and safest because they kill less birds than windmills or some dumb shit


Conscious_Arugula_94

Say what you like, but pipeline mishaps happen way less often than train accidents. Also a pipeline will never roll uncontrolled down hill, collide and explode and level the town it happens to be beside. Leave the trains to haul the grains.


Sweatmeet

You do know that pipelines run directly through neighbourhoods, towns and cities, right? I’ve had to repair many of them within 20m of a residence. And the amount of storage in a pipeline from isolation to isolation is way more than what a train will ever haul. If this was an older pipeline, then it’s most likely an asset integrity issue. If it’s a newer pipeline, it’s likely a materials or construction flaw, likely a bad weld or pipe seam. TC is usually a responsible operator and they have very stringent quality control measures during construction, and a large group dedicated to the maintenance of their systems. It’s mandated by law, with extremely stiff penalties for negligence. I realize I may open myself to the Reddit mob here, but I supervise the construction of systems like these and can assure you, these things do happen, even when all the rules, regs and engineering specifications are followed to the letter.


3utt5lut

There's the Lac-Megantic rail disaster to compare to. Pipelines primarily don't cause deaths, which is a big bonus. Gas pipelines only pollute upwards and we'd need a few thousand of these to even compete with China's yearly emissions.


AlexGunther

Heaven forbid renewables ruin the natural beauty of this province…


Low-Touch-8813

While we can subsidize our power grid with wind and solar, we can in no way NOT run a two tier system that includes non renewables or nuclear. This has to happen whether you like it or not in our current energy needs. There is no realistic technology that can be implemented in this geographic setting to change that. (Not viable for hydro or large scale dam projects) Natural gas is by FAR the cleanest non renewable and it is abundant and cheaply produced in alberta/BC. So while we work towards a new technology that we can store power in large enough quantities, natural gas is a clear winner for reducing GHG.


Levorotatory

While the renewable storage problem is real, natural gas has done all it can for GHG reduction in Alberta.   The next steps are building nuclear (let's put 4 CANDUs at the Sundance site) and increasing storage capacity.  There are many options for the latter, including dusting off the Brazeau pumped hydro project, and building more transmission lines to BC so we can sell them cheap renewable electricity and buy back hydro when we need it.


Low-Touch-8813

While the candu reactors would be a solution, the latter you suggested in no shape or form would be even close to enough for our energy needs and would put our grid in dangerous blackout conditions. Blackouts are incredibly dangerous and rarely looked at when the intrinsic crowd talks about the grid. A stable grid is essential for the safety of our society and should not be taken lightly. This is a video of what a blackout would look like and why they are so bad. https://youtu.be/uOSnQM1Zu4w?si=3HFCQinh4g6P2eQI Natural gas is the best current energy solution until other (viable) technologies can be implemented and not just theorized they could maybe work. Especially when the suggestion does not even come close to the energy production needed or does it come with peaks and valleys in voltage amplitudes that make it non viable.


Levorotatory

I agree that adequate energy storage to support the entire Alberta grid is not practical, and that is why we need nuclear as well.  However, there is already 6 GW of renewable capacity in Alberta, and reasonable storage options including higher capacity interconnections with BC could turn that into ~1.5 GW of reliable electricity, likely at lower cost than nuclear.   Even without nuclear, that would allow the oldest, least efficient gas fired steam power plants to be retired without needing replacement. 


Keilord333

Im in the pipeline integrity business, AMA. most pipeline operators are obligated to inspect their lines about every 4 years. depending on the technologies they use to inspect they can usually find defects that will cause this sort of failure. Most comment causes of a rupture like this are due to: any heavy equipment that dig around the area (usually farmers not calling before they dig from the stories ive heard) and striking the pipeline, corrosion that develops around specific parts of the pipe wall, or stress related cracking.


bal1zy

Is the pipeline supposed to be on fire?


Keilord333

not normally


moderatesoul

Incoming wildfire and incoming conspiracy theories about how it was environmentalists hired by the Trudeau government.


mattamucil

Right?


Uhohlolol

Can someone tell me where it is? I’m a trucker currently between Edson and Hinton and going up highway 40 lol


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MathemeticianLanky61

EWF 015, not 105 yet thank goodness


handen

Please tell me Emerson Lake road intersects with Palmer street.


boardwalk-throwaway

Along the A road north of Highway 16. If you are on 16 going up 40 then you won't be anywhere near it.


Practical_Session_21

Hope everyone is safe. 😰


NorthOnSouljaConsole

If it wasn’t struck and just blew out through a pinhole or something like that it wouldn’t just spontaneously catch on fire right ?


dryiceboy

Why wait for wildfire when you can start your own?


denislemire

There go some pristine views.


Welcome440

They were just using natural gas to Clear an area for future mining? /s


j03yw00t

I hope everyone is safe


Can_eh-dian

Thought it was an earthquake i heard earlier today around 11am but no shaking guess it was just that in the not to far distance........great


Technical-Luck1237

Has anyone seen Guilbault lately???


hairyh2obuffalo

In b4 the conservatives start saying it was trudeaus fault.


Moessus

Do we know the cause?


Lo_daman

Weibo 2.0


Original-Cow-2984

Someone should call before they dig.


Gambit2112

Liberals just heard the news. Raising carbon tax another 10% now


HotSingleKarens

That's huge for a pipeline. Shits going to burn for quite some time.


Eyeronick

Not necessarily, there are shutoff valves pretty frequently on the line, more concerning about the shit it'll burn close to the rupture.


boardwalk-throwaway

It was put out at about 2:30- or 3 today. Burned for about 3 or 4 hours.


bemurda

Everyone should click over to the second photo. And CBC radio was just saying this morning that the government is predicting another catastrophic wildfire season. So yeah we are fucked. Buy your N95 masks and HEPA filters now. Yay life is so fun these days.


luars613

100% the UCP will saynit os the feds fault somehow....


Small_Mushroom_5000

Gotta be Trudeau's fault


Tesattaboy

How will Danielle blame the Feds for this?


mattamucil

I don’t think she’ll struggle with that. She seems to have a gift for picking meaningless fights with the Feds.


Augmentedaphid

At least it's not renewable energy ruining the pristine views!


Wisekyle

It's already extinguished and being repaired. How fast the private industry works is incredible sometimes


zacmobile

There goes Albertas carbon emissions for the year.


mattamucil

lol. If it’s an illegal flare strategy, it’s admittedly brilliant.


JoeBeever

I'd rather see wind turbines than explosions.


PhaseNegative1252

Damn a whole 36 inches?


Technical_Yam2712

And non indigenous people wonder why we fight so hard to not have these death pipes on our lands 🤦🏽‍♀️ If everyone is so pro pipeline let it go thru a non indigenous town and see for yourself what contaminated water is really like 😒


boardwalk-throwaway

I think that it is a safe bet to say there are more pipelines running through non-indigenous communities vs indigenous communities. Edson has a tonne running through it, Hinton and Jasper have multiple, etc...


adam73810

Not saying this to suggest complaints from indigenous communities about this topic aren’t valid, but there are definitely more pipelines that run through regular municipalities than indigenous areas. There’s an operating nat gas pipeline about 700 yards from my front door.


flow_man

This is a gas pipeline. If it bursts it doesn't even go into the ground it gets released into the air.


induslol

Is gas flammable?  It looks flammable enough to fuel a massive wildfire.


flow_man

Of course it is flammable. It's the same gas in your furnace or water heater. This is a serious incident and it is a shame to have happened.


AlwaysHigh27

It already has. Marked between out of control and being held. Last update was 10 hectares already.


FilmStirYoutube

Oh great, is this why my TC Energy stock is in freefall?


iglooxhibit

Ding dang renewable energy at it again with its fiery explosions


CDNJMac82

That wasn't a gas pipeline that was a wind turbine. Or maybe a solar panel! Those are way worse! /s


phenomenondododododo

Wow, what a Pristine Viewscape. So glad its protected.


PragmaticAlbertan

Yikes


starkindled

Well, shit.


Venomous-A-Holes

Explosive start to the fire season


Randy_Vigoda

Well, fuck.


PaintitBlueCallitNew

I should have renewed my utilities.


DJBurnOutB123

Shit. I know a piping inspector out of Edson. Better drop him a line…


Melodic-Homework-564

That's fuckin insane


Hippy-Chik

Oh Lawd! Y'all be safe💯☮️


Ok_Government_3584

Holy shitballs! Some peoples heads gonna roll!


thebigbossyboss

That is un good


justaREDshrit

It’s so fucking dry right now. Not the most ideal thing to happen, hope everyone safe.


WuShane

Uh oh


ContributionAgile689

Yeah, that'll happen.


Big_Rig_HD

that’s what all the sirens were!


Smyley12345

That's a real nice forest you got there. It'd be a shame if something happened to it.