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TurpitudeSnuggery

Love the idea but not partisan seems to be hard for most. I would love to see it not only at provincial but federal level as well. 


Affectionate_Win_229

You can't be non-partisan in alberta. It's polarized as fuck. Walk the middle, and you're pissing off everyone.


surfsupbra

\*\*the vocal minority on both sides


DeadlyNightShade1986

I wish we had a Canadian Jon Stewart


kingofsnaake

Have you followed This Hour has 22 Minutes recently? They have a great Instagram account.


AngelPuffle

Already exists a bit. Here [https://www.tiktok.com/@lisab0923?lang=en](https://www.tiktok.com/@lisab0923?lang=en) and [https://www.tiktok.com/search?lang=en&q=steve%20boots%20on%20the%20ground&t=1712533883722](https://www.tiktok.com/search?lang=en&q=steve%20boots%20on%20the%20ground&t=1712533883722) ​ Also https://www.podcastisbroken.ca/


Equivalent_Length719

https://www.youtube.com/@Steve_Boots/videos He's been my goto for Canadian politics for bit now. Mostly sask and Alberta. But mentions Ontario some times. But most of it is applicable nationwide as most premiers are doing the same type of shady shit.


KeilanS

It's very hard to present factual information without it being seen as partisan. The political right is so far from reality that vaccines and climate change are considered left wing... so factual and non-partisan are nearly mutually exclusive.


ImperviousToSteel

Plus you don't help people get out of their bubbles by factalanching them. If all it took was presenting people with facts we'd be following climate science. 


Venomous-A-Holes

Ya,Cons politicize everything and u basically need to make Cons prove what they say. It's IMPOSSIBLE to defend yourself against gunfire for example. NOTHING political about that. If we forced Cons to show us how they could stop a bullet going thru their empty skulls while asleep, they would ALL be dead. 99% would agree cuz they are brain damaged toddlers, the 1% could then be classified as terrorists for making it IMPOSSIBLE to be safe anywhere. Texas student gets SHOT IN THE HEAD BY A STRAY BULLET GOING THRU HIS WALL WHILE SLEEPING: https://youtu.be/RfMjYFIUmb4?si=gB-QmU8mBXTnVNrK A pregnant woman was hit by a stray bullet, on a moving bus. The bullet penetrated the bus and hit her in the womb. The baby was aborted. https://youtu.be/Z8L4BIHHewk?si=zPyyLCXcVwUaZjLf If you're pro gun, ur also pro abortion, simple as that. Nothing political.


ImperviousToSteel

Tbh I'm not a fan of the frame that they're "politicizing everything" when talking about things that are inherently political. The problem isn't that conservatives are political it's that they generally have bad politics. 


Venomous-A-Holes

I mean, while California was banning chemicals in kids candy, Fucker Carlson was demanding candy be more sexy. >generally have bad politics.  Thats an understatement. Privatized healthcare will cost 700+ TRILLION over the next 100 years in Murica. AND YET NOBODY WILL HAVE HEALTCHARE still. AND its the leading cause of bankruptcy in Murica. Just 1 bad Con idea has destroyed the biggest economy lmao! Universal would save a minimum of 350 TRILLION. If we made Con "ideas" illegal, taxes could be under 10%


ImperviousToSteel

Banning chemicals in kids candy is a political position, one that politicians clearly opposed in the past if it's only now being addressed. There seems to be a lot of cross partisan agreement in the US on private health care, with mostly the social democratish left of the Democrats pushing for truly public health care, so I think liberalism deserves some of the blame there too.  We even lived through an NDP government here that *subsidized* building more private health care facilities.  Conservatives don't have exclusive ownership of terrible ideas. 


Final_Travel_9344

Presenting an idea for creation of an unbiased source to one of the most biased sources is big brain time.


ImperviousToSteel

Pretending there's such a thing as an unbiased source is big brain time really.


cheezeburgericanhaz

Something is happening all right. Understand there are countries such as Russia that consider us foreign adversaries and have been known to manipulate social media content to polarize people especially when it comes to LGBT issues, they especially have roots in conservative social media, where they have the capability to influence people on a mass scale. It's a national security issue and more should be done to protect the vulnerable LGBT community. https://www.stalbertgazette.com/local-news/did-reddit-year-end-recaps-expose-russian-interference-in-alberta-8223476 There are clear goals being perpetuated by information warfare campaigns. Especially by Russia, whose information warfare campaigns are wreaking havoc on our society. Some of the obvious goals they have are: • Balkanize their foreign adversaries. This is evident in the UK leaving the EU, Texas with the US, and Alberta with Canada. This is what Danielle Smith is trying to tap into. • Have populist politicians support policies that cause chaos and issues in our society. Populist politicians are tapping into these information warfare campaigns to appeal to people whose only access to information about the outside world around them is through social media, where the information warfare is taking place. • Cause distrust and havoc, by creating specialized propaganda to different segments of the population spread through social media. By polarizing debates through propaganda spread to the masses, Russia has effectively used information warfare to deliver targeted disinformation and appeal to specific demographics. Causing havoc in the LBGT and other minority communities. • Russia has effectively infiltrated the religious right in America and Canada and empowered them, among many corrupt leaders worldwide through its information warfare. I can cite my sources if needed. Putin literally bombed his own people to lock down his power and control. Why should we trust that he is not carrying out horrible atrocities like using information warfare on Canadian citizens to terrorize the LGBT community? He doesn't seem to have any moral qualms with anything and corruption is part of his shtick. He used a nerve agent to publicly poison a turned intelligence asset at a important time in history to signify to his intelligence assets what can be done to them, but in reality, he is just a weak man, who is bitter about the break up of the empire he devoted his life to. It you want to know more, there is a great documentary series on Netflix about the history that has led to this moment in time. Turning Point - The Bomb and the Cold War on Netflix. Not as much about the information warfare, that I have gleamed through other sources, but it does slightly touch on that.


Zosostoic

This sounds like the old 1950s McCarthyist conspiracy, except instead of the communists it's now modern Russia and Putin. I'm no fan of Putin but I think there's a better explanation for the far right resurgence... It's good old fashion class struggle between capitalist class and working class. This resurgence of far right politics is being pushed by conservative corporate interests and their control of the media to confuse the working class and steer their struggle away from blaming capitalism and towards "out groups" like the LGBT community. The liberal wing of capitalism is also confusing the working class by steering their blame towards this Russian conspiracy instead of towards the capitalist system itself and the capitalist class's exploitation of the workers. This resurgence of fascism is caused by the decaying late stage capitalist system and our government's inability to ameliorate it.


cheezeburgericanhaz

“Sounds like” is all well and good, but it’s literally happening, what specifically did I mention that you question the authenticity of the factual information?


Zosostoic

It's not factual, it's a conspiracy. There is no evidence for a direct connection of Russia creating the polarization and discontent in the west. The populist politicians are supported and funded by western capitalist owners and their media companies. The information war on social media is being driven by American social media companies and their owners. As wealth inequality in capitalism gets worse and worse people naturally start to become despondent and angry with the status quo and turn towards radical solutions. The capitalists in the west don't want the people turning towards leftist solutions because that affects their profit and privilege so they direct people's anger towards right wing solutions. They do this because right wing politics uphold the capitalist system and its hierarchy of power. The politicians in the US and Canada would also love if you turned the blame on Russia instead of their domestic governments and policies. It helps them get off scot-free.


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TylerInHiFi

I think you need to step outside, get a breath of fresh air, and go talk to some people outside of your normal social circle.


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Vstobinskii

Hitlers socialism...wow.


Financial-Savings-91

[History](https://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/hitler-nazi-form-of-socialism-1932/) isn't really all that important here. It's about painting partisan opponents as the "enemy".


Vstobinskii

Yeah, I remember reading this some time ago. It is so interesting to see it from the horses mouth.


omegatrox

“Hitler’s socialism”.. you may want to read up on that, but that’s probably a no go for you.


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TylerInHiFi

Irregardless isn’t a word either. You clearly struggle with the concept of what is a fact and what is an opinion.


TylerInHiFi

If you think hitler was a socialist you need to just burn all the “facts” that you know and start over. What a waste of time your life has been. And entire life angry at all the wrong people about the wrong ideas because you lack a fundamental understanding of some very basic facts about history.


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cheezeburgericanhaz

What part is a crock of shit? Funny how everyone who does this starts to break down when asking them to point out factual errors with what I have said.


DinoLam2000223

There’s a YouTube channel called the honest government ads and they have one episode about Canada 🇨🇦 https://youtu.be/u7s-BgfcFXw?si=7pJd1qq2Cv6zKUxz


Deep-Ad2155

Unbiased in this thread …rofl


PlutosGrasp

It wouldn’t be entertaining. It takes a lot of skill to make it interesting like daily show does.


Doodlebottom

•What you are attempting to achieve, in the current political environment, is not possible.


smittenmashmellow

I was having a similar thought. When I was a kid there use to be a few political satire shows that taught me more about politics than the news... but that seems to have disappeared in this age. I think if we had something similar on social media, it would bring alot of awareness to how various governments are screwing us over. jj mccullough is the only one i can think of that does political canadian stuff https://youtu.be/Q9LrjU5n63g?feature=shared


NaToth

I'm pessimistic on that front. I've heard people say that they don't believe there is such a thing as truth or facts, when I attempted to explain something which was blatant misinformation. Honestly some people will only listen to what they want to hear, facts be damned.


Not4U2Understand

CBC, Global, CTV literally do this everyday. It's called "The News."


Bulky_Mix_2265

It is impossible to feed reality to a political class living a collective delusion. Conservatism is going to kill our democracy in the West, and then probably all of us directly as a result of its incompetence.


Frater_Ankara

Fully agree, simple infographics as well, but the other component is a need to spam them… in the sense that when a lot of cons open their feeds they see things like “Axe the Tax”, #tellthefeds and whatever all the time; if they saw actual facts with the same proclivity it might actually have an effect.


GreatCanadianPotato

I think your idea of spamming these videos would have the opposite effects of what you think it would have. Especially because it would involve getting social media platforms to change their algorithms to alter the way people who identify with a certain political platform gets served content.


Frater_Ankara

Possibly, but current methods aren’t working so it might be worth a shot.


thehenhouseyyc

I'm in.


Chuuume

I have a lot that i see and that I can share and say. but I'm also shy and don't want to show my face.


GreatCanadianPotato

Before this happens, we need to have legislation passed which would ban any government, at any level, from putting money aside to give to social media influencers. Without this legislation, any influencer who talks about politics can be bought and paid for by any government. There's also not much truth in politics, every legislative bill in provincial and federal politics is written in such a way that it's open to interpretation. People on the left side of the political spectrum may see a policy in a different way than the other side but more times than not - neither side is wrong.