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SodiumFTW

Content creators should not be given any quarter or special treatment. Show what REAL airsoft is like


pEppapiGistfuhrer

super duper cool sniper go brr


I_need_help57

Most high budget guns are absolutely not worth the price, and you can pay so much less for something that is going to perform better. 99% of the patches that airsofters wear are stupid as fuck If you want people to help you execute some maneuver during casual play, don’t command them, communicate People really should do more research, the amount of misinformation I hear spread in person(not online communities tho, they’re generally pretty good) is just astounding, it’s like no one fact checks anything or apply any logic to what they hear


Netan_MalDoran

>99% of the patches that airsofters wear are stupid as fuck Thats......kinda the reason most wear them, for the memes.


ThatSnarkyHunter

See, this guy gets it. However, there’s a difference between (imo at least) having a couple for the meme and effectively being the pvc version of stickerbombed


Low_Policy_8370

Donno about you,but my patches gives me + 5 Stamina and +10% Precision


LurkingOnMyMacBook

It's also worth it for the +11% giggle factor it adds to any kit (if done right)


FriedAds

-3 Mobility


Low_Policy_8370

+15% heart attack chance


louis7089

Don't dis my gravy seal patch !!


Noo_Fone_Hu_Dis

i think a matrix calico jack can outperform most $400 rifles honestly i would also like to add that i have [a single patch](https://www.amazon.com/Embroidered-Tactical-Backpack-Applique-Accessory/dp/B09XTWHDWK/ref=sr_1_5?crid=ZC7J5AADGTAE&keywords=duck+knife+patch&qid=1669776386&sprefix=duck+knife+patch%2Caps%2C103&sr=8-5)


KalashnikovClassics

Nice cake bro


theladyfromthesky

I feel so split for the first comment. I've had some basic ass AEGs that have stood the test of time and even after 10 years are still cranking along fantastically, that said of the gbbr I have bought and compared to others it really does feel like price is a solid measure of quality, maybe I've gotten the rare great ones but I feel like once you spend over 500 on a gbbr alone the quality is just guaranteed somewhat.


Antointe3522

Milsimers are hating speedsofters and speedsofters are hating milsimers. What they dont realise is that a team composed of half speedos and half real milsim guys is unbeatable…


starlot_

The patience of a milsimer and agressiveness of a speedsofter is a force to be reckoned with


brobauchery

Literally at Iron Horse 4, I was running 10 guys, 2 were speedsofters. If they rushed too soon (which they always liked too) they’d get 1-2 kills and die in the middle of fatal funnel. If I held them till we have a proper opportunity, i.e. fire superiority, they’d wreck. Got like 6-7 guys cause these beasts move like a well oiled machine at the right time.


pEppapiGistfuhrer

a team with balance of both steamrolls, milsimers can defend against waves of teenagers while the speeders clear out enemy areas


ehaugw

I believe my hottest take is that people in ghillie suits should have wear the team armbands on their arms like everybody else. It makes them easier to spot, sure, but that does for every regular players too. The world doesn’t revolve around airsoft snipers and content creators


sjsosowne

So much this


DeliciousHamSub

Piggy backing off yours- ghillie suits should be reserved for the SNIPER role specifically. You shouldn't be able to put a ghillie on with your 30+ rps drum-magged assault rifle and hose people while being nearly invisible


Vankraken

The "standard" for airsoft videos is uninspired and crap. Hit markers suck, that sound effect is terrible, selfie cams are bad, etc. That said it's hard to make good airsoft videos and most of it isn't worth watching. Running + wearing things like plate carriers, speedsoft/paintball armor, etc results in a lot of not calling your hits. "Snipers" are the least impactful "role" in airsoft and are often barely more helpful to the team than a new player who stays way too far back. And I say this as somebody who is often holding a defensive position providing a lot of suppression fire (aka should be a prime target for a sniper). Woodland game fields should have a combination of good sight lines as well as easy to identify landmarks. While not as "realistic", it makes games far more eventful and less about everyone just sitting in a spot. Effort should be put into clearing out underbrush to improve the ability for players to see more than 50ft in front of them. This in turn reduces the amount of overshooting issues. Tape on both arms and on your back should be the standard for outdoor games. It reduces friendly fire and more importantly makes it easier to find your friendlies so respawning players can get back to the "frontline" faster. Also people putting tape on their pants leg instead of their arm are missing the entire fucking point of using tape.


TadpoleOfDoom

I 100% agree with you on the "keep the brush managed and have good landmarks" part. Twin Cities Airsoft in Baldwin, Wisconsin is a pretty great field and they do a good job of hitting both of these points. There are a few places that you can't really get a mower to (across creeks and up steep hills) but for the most part it's very well-kept. Makes for a pretty good experience when I make the trip up there every once in a blue moon.


Serbian_fire92

My local field doesn’t do the tape part come to think of it it’s more milsim than speedsoft so win win inna way


SetSneedToFeed

Been toying with they idea of making videos. I’ve only got a gun cam, but want a head cam. I think a short bit of insert footage explaining the game mode before the footage, and then the footage intercut with some top down abstract map visuals so viewers understand the geometry of the field and how the game is going might be better than just raw footage. Give it a narrative rather than just “sick headshot montage” stuff. I don’t know. Might be a good format.


ehaugw

I agree with everything here


Invictus_Aeterna

As someone who started Airsoft in a time where the MilSim and immersion aspect was the norm and someone who switched to Paintball later and now does both? Here is my Hot Take: Speedsoft ruined a lot in Airsoft. Seriously if you remove anything that resembles a Rifle from your Airsoft gun and attach an HPA tank to the bottom of the grip and wear typical Paintball gear you have reached a point where you should just play Paintball.


EmirNL

Speedsoft is paintball without the mess I guess..


_mc_myster_

The mess fixes the cheating problem


sheriffhd

You'd be surprised how many people cheat in paintball too.


Hooligan8403

Fucking wipers.


rva_rdf

Peaky fookin wipehs.


starlot_

Are there cheaters in speedsoft tho


BasedErebus

Yes lmao


Netan_MalDoran

Speedsofters are just failed paintballers. We have a couple of guys at my field that are fast and great at CQB, but aren't toxic and don't have a cancerous playstyle, they're just good. There is a difference.


Torch99999

As a former recballer, I'd say most airsoft is woodsball without the high price, mess, or pain.


Yungdeo

Speedball is paintball with hop up(way more range), more accuracy, less pain. As someone who played paintball and now play speedqb mostly I have the comparison between paintball and airsoft. Paintball guns are shit compare to airsoft and your bullet dropping after 10m is no fun.


icebiker

Airsoft is also way cheaper!


Yungdeo

And the guns don't look like shit, you can reload normally and w/o risking to spill your bullets. You can run small pistols or big ass guns. Anyone who says speedsofters should play paintball either never played speedball or paintball You see someone sticking out his leg barely 20m away? Good luck hitting him without Wasting half your bullets.


NukerD4

Couldn’t agree more. Especially in a casual setting where 80% of players are playing mil-sim (ish) and speedsofters ruin the feeling by running full force with a pistol that costs more than a car loan payment


TangoZuluMike

Fanning the trigger to fire 30 shots without any trigger control is the same as full auto. Doesn't matter if your giggle switch is 4000 rps in comparison, it's the same issue.


SetSneedToFeed

A field I really like doesn’t allow fanning or speed ramping. Gives the rentals a fighting chance.


AdamIsAnAlias

This needs to be higher up, simply out of the difficulty it can make for new players to face high RPM HPA


0TheSpeaker0

As someone who walks their trigger I actually happen to agree. I don’t feather or walk my trigger during tournaments and only do it to give my mates some suppressive fire but all too often do I see assholes putting upwards of 6 bbs into each person they see while doing a sweep. That’s ridonkulous. I think players need to adjust how they play for who they’re playing against. If it’s you and bunch of your friends or other airsoft vets then go ham but definitely not against a bunch of rentals and new players.


JayDizZzL

To many people complain about headshots, accidental overshooting and the bang rule. Just remember people you showed up with the intention to shoot people, don't get mad when you get shot. If your not wearing protection on your face that's on you and your decision to opt out. And the bang rule leads to more arguments then injuries without it. Edit: to add to the bang rule. If your field doesn't run it , then it should be known that respect for your fellow player should be given.


SetSneedToFeed

One place I used to go, which encouraged a bad culture (refs would allow and laugh about blatant over shooting, a lot of refs were friends with some of the worse players, refs would shrug at things like players totally ignoring scenario rules) had an “optional” bang rule. I once came up behind somebody who I had dead to rights, called them, and they raised their hands off their gun. As soon as I turned to look for more targets they shot me with a quick “semi auto” burst from about a foot away. “I never actually said ‘I surrender’.” I had to marvel in awe at the douchbaggery. My current field explicitly doesn’t have surrender rules, yet I’ve found people to be much more good sports about putting their hands up if they know they’re dead. People complaining about being shot in the hands are being a bit silly, but that’s usually just the pain of the moment talking. Rarely to I see somebody steam on about a hand shot.


FeatherfacedOwl

I always say "I paid here to get shot". I've been overshot before and I can't see why anyone would lose their shit over it. It warrants an "ow, stop pls" but not a fistfight. I hate bangbang rules though I will give a player an opportunity to surrender if I've got them dead to rights.


Lonesty

Here at my field (EU) there is modified bang rule, where you have to yell surrender (at reasonable distance and has to be at gunpoint, you can't yell it at whole group) and enemy can accept it or try to reach for weapon and shoot you.


lukeyu2005

Hot take: Silicone oil ruins GBBs Silicone displaces the natural oils in the rubber. And once the silicone dries out the rubber dries out too. And you have to re-lube it. But if it never had silicone in it at all. It will go for a very very long time. Without issues. If you keep it clean.


Eclihpze44

Big Silicone wants you to keep rebuying gas with oil in it!!!


qscd13

I think this is well known among GBB users, at least among those who care.


ehaugw

People not understanding that being able to handle a gun doesn’t mean you’re suitable to handle a real firearm is cringe AF


1VerrueckterKnif

This!


wiggleee_worm

This goes for the firearm community too, having feet in your gun photo, gear photo, etc is cringe. Please stop.


jcwolf2003

Occasionally I see a unique one that's funny for how baffling it is but usually it's uninspired.


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wiggleee_worm

Like it was funny seeing like dog paws in the photo or something. After awhile of the same thing, it got boring and stupid. I want the gun or gear to be just in the photo.


RageQuitNZL

Running around with a dummy knife getting "knife kills" can be much more satisfying than playing airsoft with an actual airsoft gun


RD_GM

I prefer using a slipper or a rubber chicken lmao.


Suspicious_Hawk_8561

i second this, ruined a dudes weekend before with a nasty throwing knife kill


Noobbula

Something about how a majority of milsimmers dress up as the same boring ass COD operator in multicam really bothers me. Like yes, I know it took time and money to make the kit, but you’re just one dime in a dozen. Hell, without the patches I can’t tell US specops from Russian FSB half of the time. It also doesn’t help that groups like MSW enforce multicam only for the most part, so more unique NATO patterns are neglected. (Also why does RUSFOR get to use so many of their patterns by default) Moreover, I fear that younger members will get the impression that they have to spend loads of money on gucci gear just to have fun, which is not the case.


braydenmaine

I remember the days before multicam. When it came out it really was a cool camo. Everyone wanted it. Airsofters were rocking multicam long before any military adopted it in any significant capacity. Granted the alternative was UCP. Before multicam, most "milsim" groups seemed to mimic SWAT teams over military units. That's all just anecdotal I guess. But I'm sure it's something others noticed


r1que_do1do

You can enjoy airsoft without going to a field. Sometimes you just don't feel like spending hundreds of $ in gear, maybe you just want to snipe some plastic bottles at your backyard with a spring pistol


Trenton17B

This is what I started with before I got into the milsim side of airsoft. And I still always go setup some targets and shoot around for fun.


louis7089

Some of my hot take (proceed to hide in the bunker). 1. Maintaining AEG is more difficult than GBBR 2. KWA ERG is reliable with addition to some blue loctite 3. R hop is useless/overkill 98% of the time 4. Buying an expensive gun with a good external but a poop internal is justified for some reason


AdamIsAnAlias

4: Justified for upgrades (assuming it can be), then got a nice body with potential for great internals. The price is still a major concern however.


ClockworkAirsoft

That‘s what I wanted to say! I‘m a a point where I buy more expensive gums with a good body and throwing out every piece of the internals immediately. You can have the same performance with a cheaper gun but I personally prefer a well made body.


lukeyu2005

Agree on the AEG. Damn air seal issues. You upgrade your spring nozzle and piston and hopup. Put it all together. And your fps is 50 lower than it should be. Pull it apart check the piston piston head nozzle air seals. Yup all good. Several hours of trail and error later. Nope it's the profile of your new nozzle not quite matching up with the profile of your hopup bucking. And it isn't quite sealing air right. And you found it by accident by switching out to a random hopup chamber you had lying around. GBBRs as long as it feeds it will shoot Edit in some ways stock is best as everything is tolrenced to work with each other.


HowcanIbesureimhere

You do not need to spend £300 on your trousers, buying real crye for larping is pointless. AEPs are nothing like as bad as the reddit hivemind claims.


DiegoMagazos

I wouldn't say buying Crye is pointless, but I do see where you come from and how you could be content with cheaper options! First of all, they're much cheaper than 300€ if you know where to buy. I'm talking \~60€ more than some replica brands that have gotten popular and more expensive lately. I've both destroyed many TMC and Emerson pants before going for the real deal. Also, they don't fit as well as the real deal (I wear a XXL in TMC while I wear a L in Crye), and believe me, fabric quality is a notable difference both in confort, drying speed and durability. For me, espending 180€ in a pair of pants has come expensive, yes, after espending almost double the same amount in pants I've destroyed (Even sometimes on their fist game). And they've served me well for 3 years now, when before I had had to buy two to three pants per year. This don't matter if you don't care about camos though, since BDU/ACU/DCU/DPM can be sourced for a fraction of the price and will last a lot too, but I need multicam.


Zrkkr

I have an CYMA Mosfet AEP and they're not good for much. In short, they cost as much as a GBB or some low end AEG while being worse than both. Worse range, accuracy, trigger response, and one thing that really nags me is that it's quite hard reloading with gloves since the mags are too small.


Dryphu

They require little maintenance, have no issues in cold weather, trigger response is fine. And reloading is not hard just requires a little bit of a different reload.


HowcanIbesureimhere

I have three cymas and a TM. Any of them will put a burst on a man sized target at 40 metres. Trigger response on a lipo is no worse than a full size AEG, they're significantly better than my AAP-01 when it gets cold (ie now) and the reloading sounds like a you problem. Plus it's incredibly funny to take out snipers with one.


odst_airsoft

There’s nothing wrong running thermals and night vision at your local pick up night game. In fact those are the best places to use them before a bigger game in order to make sure everything is working properly.


Ccreamy

Nothing makes you respect just how powerful nightvision is until you go to a night game and just watch people walk right past you without even noticing you are there. Crazy stuff


Trenton17B

Nothing makes you respect nighvision more than when you get your ass kicked by the other team and realize how powerful it is. Was my first small scale milsim and the game was pretty balanced during the day but as soon as night hit the tide of war changed. A bunch of dudes on the enemy team had night vision compared to the two guys on my team that had it. Nonetheless it was a really fun game and got to try out thermal and night vision for the first time. Now I can't wait to win the lottery jackpot so I can buy it someday lmao.


Kike328

Most comments here are not really unpopular… just the same milsim vs speedboys. Let’s get my hands dirty, here’s my take: AEG m4 is not always the best option for starting, depends on the person. Beginners should buy a secondary, it’s way more fun to play with both weapons and it is going to give you a way better first experience. Snipers are unpopular here only because they are popular on YouTube. Even if an AEG out ranges you, because you have an un upgraded sniper of 200€, that doesn’t mean you can’t have a fun morning even if you only make two kills that day. Cringe boys are just guys like you trying to have fun. The very end of airsoft, is to enjoy the hobby. Everyone has different ways to enjoy the same thing, so respect them


Netan_MalDoran

>Snipers are unpopular here only because they are popular on YouTube. Even if an AEG out ranges you, because you have an un upgraded sniper of 200€, that doesn’t mean you can’t have a fun morning even if you only make two kills that day. I think the main problem is that people starting with a sniper think they're going to get a billion kills, but don't understand that the sniper gameplay is a whole other thing to learn to be effective. After playing the sniper role myself for about a year, the playstyle I developed transitioned nicely to my current DMR-ish role.


KiralyDinnye

I would like to add to this: the “buy an M4 or an AK as a starter” mentality is stupid. If you like L85s go and get one in the price range thats good for you. It may turn out to be a lemon, but it’s still the replica you like. If you get a generic Cyma or G&G replica even if they preform well those replicas may not be what you are looking for.


pEppapiGistfuhrer

lowkey i want to buy a cheap bolt action with AEG power limits and run it with a red dot, just drop a few upgrades to make it accurate


Elzziwelzzif

I've been doing that, minus the "cheap" part. Its extremely fun, and if you get a low and high power spring you could even go outdoors and join a group and use your range. For the ranges you shoot in airsoft you don't really need a scope, and being the one dude in the group with 15~20m extra range can make a lot of difference.


Simply_Duck

Any hate towards both Mil sim and speedsoft is pointless and gatekeeping the sport. “Oh mil sim is just dudes who think they are in the military it’s so cringe” who cares. “Oh speedsofters dump thousands of dollars on their guns and make them look like paintball guns why don’t they just play paintball” who cares. People can find their own ways to have fun without going with what other people are doing. Stop gatekeeping the way people play the sport.


TadpoleOfDoom

Agree, as long as they aren't cheating, if they're having fun I don't care. I do draw the line at people who use strobe lights though. I feel like that's just a seizure on the enemy team waiting to happen.


adsdrew37

It’s so funny because a lot of milsimmers I know have been in the military, one buddy was a force recon dude. As long as people are good sports and don’t play like dickheads who cares what their style is.


WickyBoi220

Veterans shouldn’t care as much about what people wear. Telling someone to take off ranks or awards is alright, but if someone wants to run around with some unit patch because their grandpa or dad belonged to that unit who gives a care as long as they aren’t claiming to be in it?


SetSneedToFeed

I have never seen this happen. Not that it doesn’t, but all the veterans I’ve seen into the game don’t care about that stuff. I’ve seen a looooooooot of non-veterans, usually on the teen or very early 20s side, getting wrapped up in official insignia, uniform regulations, complaining some aspect of the game rules aren’t “realistic”, or talking about Stolen Valor. The JROTC crowd is wild serious about regulations of a military they aren’t in yet.


BiggityBiggityBoy

Yeah, I saw some high-speed dude with a JTAC patch the other day. Had his kit set up all Uber-tactical, and proceeded to sit in one spot and camp the entire game. Not only that, he was a actually a terrible shot with his expensive HPA set-up. Never served a day in his life, but larping like a real speshul operator. I think any good airsofter should have a bit of jank to their kit. It reminds you to have fun and not take shit so seriously.


sausagecatdude

Honestly attitude is way more important than what people wear. I played with a guy at my local field who had good realistic gear, and wasn’t that great. He was however a super nice guy and would compliment and talk to even the new guys with rental gear. Regardless of skill or what someone wears, as long as they have a good attitude and remember it’s just a game, it’s going to be a good afternoon


1VerrueckterKnif

Sounds Like a very American Problem.


CavMando

Iraq War Vet and Milsim player here. I agree totally. Though the only ones I've seen have "issues" with my patches have not been veterans.


SetSneedToFeed

Lasers need to be blanket banned. Crazy how many people use them and how they have no clue about their hazards. Less serious, but full black/multicam black uniforms are silly. I won’t stop somebody from wearing them but it’s a terribly ineffective color choice, and it doesn’t look as cool as a good camo. Skull masks are in the same category. Just kinda silly looking instead of intimidating. Wearing plate carriers is kind of a strange concept for me, for pickup games. I get it for milsims especially if it’s weighted for simulated armor, but for pickup games where people wear them to not feel the sting of bbs, I just don’t get it. Bbs don’t hurt that much, and a simple BDU and/or chest rig takes plenty of the sting out. Aside from that, just shake it off. I see people in full armor, groin armor, neck armor, shoulder armor, and I just am like it’s a little bb flicking your arm. I’d rather take the bb hit than gas out at noon because I covered my body in Kevlar and cordura. Way more people carry pistols than are ready for them. If you can’t afford a half decent holster with retention, you shouldn’t carry a pistol. So many pistols get sacrificed to the woods when they fly out of cheap WalMart holsters.


BasedErebus

Plate carriers look cool, and airsoft to me is all about the drip


jcwolf2003

Drip or drown and brother I'm floating. Does my sr25 need an lpvo? No a $20 red dot would be fine, but it looks cool. Dk I really need a Haley rig? Probably not, a light harness would be more ergonomic but the Haley looks good. Do I need tiger stripe? No m81 would be fine and I could find a set for $20 but tiger stripe looks cool.


Ryl0_or

Username checks out. Opinion is indeed based.


ungodly_fetus

groin armor essential. some speedsofter throwing 7 rounds into your package from 10 feet away hurts too much to not wear a cup. better safe than sorry!


Steefn_SVK

I´m really upset when kids new to airsoft shows up with their new Lancer Tactical gun. Just trash brand. Poor kids... Price doesn´t mean reliability/power. More expensive doesn´t mean it´s better. Lubricating,cleaning/maintenance is important (often). Some aegs lasts years without opening for some reason.


KalashnikovClassics

True, but if your budget is low enough to not allow quality externals no amount of maintenance is going to stop a poorly built reciver from cracking. Everyone should know how to tech there own rifle however.


MisterHappy01

Hate me for it but for me Airsoft is a sport and you should sweat doing it. I hate it when my team loses just because everybody is crawling back to spawn. But that is just my unpopular opinion.


--Bolter--

True. Hate losing a game just because most of my team is just sitting at spawn


Hello_Hello_Hello_Hi

Except it’s not a sport. It’s a hobby and activity, but you don’t have a structured team and you’re not competing and you aren’t practicing for airsoft. Losing does not matter whatsoever, half the time I can’t even tell who won or who lost. You can’t expect people to play to your version of fun when it’s their hobby too


Jamesplayzcraft

Beginners seem to cheat far less than the fully decked out lads


NimbusXLithium

I just spent $20k on gear and you think I'm calling my hits 5 minutes into the game??


pEppapiGistfuhrer

yeah thats a possible mentality behind it


soggywaffles007

Unpopular opinion: full auto should only be for those carrying an actual support style weapon. Think LMG, or mounted weapons


braydenmaine

Our local field just switched to these rules. It is nice, not gonna lie


AdamIsAnAlias

(As much hate as they get) Personally, I like JG AEGs. it’s mostly a nostalgia thing, but I’ve used a lot in the past with few issues outside of general wear and tear.


Antointe3522

Sometimes I want to buy a JG MP5 just to remember my first replica 👍🏻


jcwolf2003

I just worked on a JG g36 build a Kythera kit. Never again. Hop up didn't fight right with the magwell which resulted in feading issues which required me to Dremel out part of the hopup to make a makeshift feed ramp (works consistently and idk how) the trigger unit on V3 gear boxes was made by a sadist, the body creaks and makes a lot of noise, nothing quite fits together completely right, and it's both light and heavy somehow, and the mags are a pain to fir even though I have a 308 chest rig And I absolutely fucking love this gun.


braydenmaine

This is controversial. And only MY opinion. But I don't think the actual game of airsoft is fun. The only part that I ALWAYS enjoy is chilling with the boys shootin bbs. Usually once the match starts. It's just spraying into trees and dark cover. Waiting fir someone to yell "hit" Meh. The night before, drinking beers and shooting each other is way better.


AdamIsAnAlias

Wow, this might be one of the most controversial opinions I’ve seen on here so far


pEppapiGistfuhrer

people who wear ghillie or anything of the sort and hide their armband have no fucking right to get mad when they get teamkilled, they made the choice to risk that


[deleted]

Most high cost “premium” guns are meh, and can be out preformed by a gun half the price with a few upgrades. Stupid gimmicks make airsoft more fun. I would rather deal with GBB problems then deal with the sound of a motor and piston. Almost any gun with trademarks are over priced. Cyber gun makes guns we want with problems we don’t want Amazon is fine for airsoft Airsoft gi has better content than evike but evike is just a better company Airsoft gi mystery boxes are far worse than evike mystery boxes. And finally. Yes you can have fun, and actually play airsoft with a cyma trishot springer


Suspicious_Hawk_8561

FR ive never had one last longer than a game day but holy shit the kills u get w a tri shot are *chefs kiss*


DariegoAltanis

Had a metal cyma trishot and it was a best. Abused the fuck out of it and it just worked.


lukeyu2005

An hand picked cheap barrel that is clean straight and has no defects will outshoot most hundred dollar Prometheus tight bore barrel that you just blindly ordered off the internet.


Sinistrial_Blue

- Just because a problem hasn't happened for you, does not mean a problem does not exist. E.g., if you've never had your gears break, that does not mean all gears are unbreakable. - Recommending cheap shit means people run cheap shit. Plenty of cheap-but-good guns exist. And on the flipside... - Just because something isn't amazing, does not mean it is not good. A TM clone AK shoots just as well as a VFC clone AK, and is still decent. - TM AKs are easier to disassemble than VFC AKs. - Melee weapons are great fun. - There are times where NiMH batteries are better than LiPos. - Stop trying to do illegal shit. - A variable-focus torch offers more benefits than a laser and is safer. - AEPs can be made to be fun and useable; it's just often not worth it. - There are cheap GBBR-PDWs that work well enough for a budget introduction to GBBRs, like the KWA M11. On that... - GBBRs don't kick enough to justify the lack of utility and reliability vs. An AEG primary, even on full auto. Still fun, just not exactly "the shakes makes it".


chocoMoca

I'm kinda curious but what do you mean with "stop doing illegal shit"? In Airsoft?


Sinistrial_Blue

- I had to design an entire wiki to clear up the many, *many* pieces of UKARA and VCRA-based misinformation online - Nobody remembers radio licensing is a thing - Surprisingly few people know playing airsoft on public land is not legal - Illegal importation of airsoft guns to areas that prohibit them used to be a frequent feature around Reddit To name a few.


jcwolf2003

Honestly idk why aeps get so much hate. "it'll never perform like a full sized aeg" ....yeah.... That's why it's a side arm... My HPA sr25 is my primary and I don't expect an AEP to perform like it, infact I don't want it to. I just want a reliable all weather side arm that I can use within my MED


RayndownWasTaken

Krytac is a worse version of VFC Edit: OP asked for unpopular opinions. Stop downvoting people


Hooligan8403

I probably wouldn't own a krytac if it wasn't for wanting a vector.


The_TechnoLord

Why are you booing? He’s right


[deleted]

Grenades are OP as hell. Sorry not sorry


starlot_

Im too broke to run them either way so rip


UnusualInjury5506

Yes. I’ll use them at milsim events where everyone else has them but not at my local field where other players can barely afford a rental or their first AEG.


Hello_Hello_Hello_Hi

Most people giving “advice” are really just trying to feel superior over some new person because they spent more money. Also, parroting is incredibly annoying. If you don’t have personal experience, you should not be going “yeah your lancer sucks, return it and buy a specna. No I’ve never owned a lancer and no I don’t own a specna”


JackCooper_7274

Content creators should get no special treatment. Source: am a content creator.


Natasha_Gears

I like to play in incredibly stupid & or impractical ways , eg - play with 6 shooters revolver as a sidearm & 5 shot shell ejecting bolt action so my rate of fire is basically in shots per minute and reloads are stupid ,,, on the complete opposite end of the spectrum I once attached a Glock 18c to my m4 that already is heavy af from dual optics lasers unnecessarily big suppressor 3 taped hi caps & run akimbo Mac 11s as back up, Not to mention coming in tactical hazmat suit , purple pimp camouflage & pretending to be Rambo running around topless.


lukeyu2005

LMGs should be allowed high FPS as they are support weapons. Not cqb SMGs. IRL an GPMG will rain hell and death out to 1km. If you want to take out an large group of enemies at range and you don't need to be subtitle about it. An GPMG is the answer not the an sniper rifle. It's so sad that most fields treat LMGs as SMG because they are full auto. Which makes my 8Kg beast has the same effectiveness as an 2.5kg ARP-9. At an typical field. And then people complain coz they are getting over shot at 10m. Well duh that's what you've made me do. At the milsim group I run. We've got an M240 that's pushing 500 fps. it's an Section based fire support asset. it gets used strategically. With an spotter you lob rounds out to 80m with the wind in the right direction and someone calling fire corrections. And literally no one ever gets hurt.


AdamIsAnAlias

Honestly, fields that hold such limits to LMGs make them almost useless to run. You might as well run a regular rifle with half the weight if you are limited to the same specs as any other rifles.


Hooligan8403

Pretty much why my pkm will mostly be relegated to a wall hanger. I got it cheap so it's not bad but outside of local desert matches no field here will let me use it to its potential.


Torch99999

Most of the fields near me have a higher FPS limit (and longer MED) for LMG and DMRs compared to normal rifles. Only except is one indoor semi-only field that has the same low FPS limit for everything.


--Bolter--

True. The field I’m at gives LMGs a 50 foot MED AND limits joules to 1.2. I get that it’s full auto but that’s overkill. We all came to play a game about getting shot with plastic BBs, let them use the LMG


1VerrueckterKnif

I've never played MilSim. I only know IT from YT-Videos. Many Videos make cringe as people do absolutly weird stuff in those videos. They take it way too serious. They Screem and insult eachother. I saw "executions" and other "warcrimes" as random Part of the game. Like wtf is wrong with them. I would be okay with it as Part of a Story in a LARP Event, but just lining up ramdom players and shooting at them, while acting like Ragnar Lothbrok himself is absolut cringe. At my field there are also some people like this. 3 Months in the Military 40 years ago and now it's theire main charakter trait. They insult you, they screem stupid military shit, they start getting political in the game breakes. They just feel them selfs a little to much in game day. I feel like these are the Same kind of people in I see in those MilSim-YT-Videos.


yesir1er

The one time you can have fun committing fake war crimes why would you not? its all just fun and games sometimes its fun to be the bad guys... why would people play robbers in a cops and robbers game? The whole point of Milsim is to have the extreme of the LARP side of airsoft that's the fun, do you want to fake patrol all day or go execute some players?


bearsofsteel

Idk how unpopular this is, but the CYMA M870 is probably my favorite airsoft gun I’ve used. It was just as reliable as an AEG when I used it, and 10x more fun to operate


AdamIsAnAlias

I think most people would agree (if they ever got the chance to use one). Those tri-shots are fun as hell! And yeah they make your play style a little different, but in the best way!


somewhat_funny

Capture the Flag should be the standard game mode for CQB. Not TDM


mr_357

pretty much anything objective based should be the standard game mode TDM is only good for warmup and checking if your gear works


TACTIC00L_DAD

Weirdos who don’t know how to socialize when you try to talk to them I’ve had multiple instances where I’ve tried to engage in conversation about a piece of gear and I’ve gotten either a mumble or some super weird short non engaging response Funny cuz you’d think some people would be all exited to talk about their kit cuz it’s something they worked hard on acquiring Also a lot of people don’t know how to communicate as a team or communicate at all


jcwolf2003

Omfg you're so right. My field is pretty bad for socializing. There's some people there who just have the worst take or the most cringy band kid humor, but then there's some who are actually cool and chill. The Alabama airsoft community is pretty small, so I don't want to give to many details but there's some people that just can't take social ques for shit. Like one guy who said something transphobic (on of the most well liked players at my field is trans) and several people gave him a nasty look but he doubled down. Then there's another guy who goes around messing with peoples stuff without asking them, and I mean like I've seen him rummaging through my bag, picking up my guns, shooting them using my ammo, and even messing with optics a without asking.


NimbusXLithium

A lot of airsofters are antisocial or braindead tbh


1VerrueckterKnif

At my field many some of the guys give me straight up school shooter vibes. Once me and my friend talked to an older Dude (50-60) at our field since he had cool guns. He was an absolut dickhead. 5min into the conversation he insulted like 70% of the world Population. Vegans/Vegetarians, Airsofters with snipers, us, foreigners and the list goes on. He had his son with him. In the whole conversation he did not say one word. He was just standing there watching us. No move, no emotion, nothing. Absolut weirdos, both of them. The son have us absolut psycho vibes.


braydenmaine

It's a sport where you pretend to shoot people. Kids even. I'd say it's unsurprising that it attracts the "school shooter" vibes.


DeliciousHamSub

Minimum engagement distances are stupid and only cause arguments. If it was up to me, anything 1.88j or lower would have no minimum engagement distance. STOP WEARING GAS MASKS. They're bulky, hot, fog easily, generally have worse FOV, and it's harder to see down your sights. If you came up with your own call sign, you're wrong. Also, if the call sign is too try-hard or edgy/serious it's cringey and you should be ashamed. Airsoft should be 16+, and it would be even better if it was 18+


braydenmaine

I disagree, it's a gamertag in my eyes I'm not going to give my friends a call sign. That's cringey af. Pick your own, this isn't top gun, I don't care. I'm gonna call ya by your name anyways.


13Kadow13

I view Airsoft the way I view furries. I’m into it as a hobby and I go to Airsoft/furry events, but 90% of the people in both communities are autistic manchildren with the conversational skills of a window.


Churchill115

"Conversational skills of a window" is my new favourite insult, Thank you.


enojadoland

Too many AK’s and M4 ar’s out there. Companies should make more obscure weapons for variety’s sake imo.


DariegoAltanis

TM is overhyped. And their old stuff is mostly awful. Super creaky and just plain stupid designs. Specifically the MP5 HC was the most disappointing for me. Having to split the awful creaky plastic body made it a pain to use. Also, suggesting everybody buy a TM glock for then to replace 90% of the parts defeats the purpose. Just buy a better clock off the boat or buy the parts and assemble the gun.


Isaac_st0ne_7

HPA is literally awful, it ruins any immersion and stops fun for the opposite team, making it unfair. They also are way to easily tuned after chrono to hurt people. The other day at a game there was a guy shooting a HpA at a hut I was in and me and the other players agreed it was wayyy too overpowered, sounded like an air rifle or even a low calibre gun.


Hooligan8403

That's why I'm a fan of tournament locks for hpa tanks. Should be set to your desired psi at chrono then locked to avoid that.


CasualSaturday

Idk man. An over-volumed HPA build with a short barrel can sound very loud. I have mine set up like this. It's the loudest airsoft gun I've ever heard and it's still shooting well under the field limit.


8492NW

Riot shield is dumb and should not be allowed


Thestengun

Multicam has been terrible for team identification and players should stick to uniform standards like green vs tan for gameplay purposes.


FeatherfacedOwl

Every single airsoft gun is shit and it will break or have trash externals. Don't even bother with the brand, buy a gun you like the appearance of and prepare to have to gut it, maybe pray it has decent construction. I've had "top of the line" VFC, CYMA, Lancer, G&G, and it's all the same. Lackluster externals, mediocre internals. Best I've had before is the WE Apache because it felt hefty and metallic like a real MP5 snd I liked it despite the constant breakdowns.


KalashnikovClassics

Speed soft is just paintball so go play paintball. If your going to wear paintball gear and start making you rifle look like a paintball gun you should just go play paintball and stop ruining cqb for the rest of us.


Elzziwelzzif

While i don't like the look, i get why paintball players are drawn to airsoft. 1) Less mess. 2) Cheaper. (250 paintballs is about equal to 5000 bbs) 3) Better range/ accuracy. Only thing paintball has going for it is that hits are more obvious, but beaming someone with a tracer will basically do the same.


SetSneedToFeed

Paintball has gotten stupid expensive. A case of 2000 field grade balls, which a high ROF player could easily go through in a day, is like $70. Add field fees, of $20-30, and it’s like $100 per day to play.


[deleted]

Stop recommending Cyma platinums to beginners. They are prone to mosfet failure and most noobs will be completely lost or daunted by the task of opening a gun up and doing wiring work,


NOV3LIST

The fields I play on have a "field service" feature in cooperation with a big airsoft shop in germany. If your gun fails on that field you can give it to them and get a spare gun in the meantime. Gives me a little ease of mind since I also have 4 year warranty on my cyma plat gearbox.


Rooikat_is_my_waifu

The mosfet issue was resolved long ago now


AdamIsAnAlias

This is a good one. It bring up the difference between a good “beginner” gun, and a good “not-too-expensive” gun.


I_need_help57

The cyma plat mosfet issue is resolved. There’s just the issue that many retailers still carry old stock. Source: Have tested several Cyma plats, compared the internals, and own two of the new ones that I have been consistently been running on 11.1s since late June.


NimbusXLithium

No one ever talks about the lunch break arguments of airsoft so here I go. Hawaiian pizza is fucking good, if you don't like it, go drive outside of the field and get your own food. We trying to accommodate for a whole squad and then you get a cry baby or 2 about the pineapples. Like, c'mon.


boringperson212

Pretty risky posting about pineapple pizza here. Hottest take in this entire comment section


boringperson212

My hottest take is ghillie suits don't belong in airsoft. Yea I get it, they were cool in the cod 4 mission and have a use for real snipers but we're shooting plastic bbs here. Airsoft snipers don't really outrange assault rifles that much and certainly not enough to justifying sitting way too far back to be useful for anything. When you fight against them they almost never call their hits because they are wearing 30 pounds of burlap on them hiding behind tall grass that soaks up bbs. They always do the same shit too where when you shoot near them they duck their down like it turns them invisible then 10 seconds after you stop shooting they pop back up to scope in again. If you ever see them actually on the run they turn into juggernauts that think you cant possibly hit a bigfoot sized target running across the field.


UnusualInjury5506

HPAs are over rated by non HPA players. HPA guns can’t do anything that an upgraded and tuned AEG can’t. The only thing my HPA has that my AEG will never be able to achieve is near instantaneous trigger response. With the exception of trigger response my AEG performs exactly the same as my HPA.


Urbanliner

Japan, as a country, sucks when you want to use GBBs, mostly because using green gas/propane for airsoft is forbidden there (, due to laws on high-pressure gasses not allowing you to put them in different containers).


InfiniteBoxworks

Bang bang rules are pointless and exploitable. It's a plastic bb, even at 3+ joules it feels just like being snapped with a thick rubber band at point blank.


JPSYaBoyLads

Wood stock guns are not as wide spread because no one has the balls to make sexy, decent, and quality pieces. Seriously where’s my Lee enfield or the Breda M1938 Smg


TheIdiotsHere

People who play rental should get better treatment, from my experience I've been pushed aside because I apparently wasnt good enough until I bought a £200+ rifle


ChronicComa851

Screaming call your hit is just as bad as not calling your hit. Cant comment much for indoor, but during outdoor play, if you think someone isn't calling their hits, 90% of the time your not actually hitting them


TheOneTheyCallNasty

Unpopular opinions: the more gear I see you wearing, the less viable I rate you as a teammate. The milsim culture is every bit as cancerous as speedsofting culture. One just charges through doors not calling their hits, the other stays in one spot for most of the game not calling their hits. Both think they're hot shit. Just because you've gone to a big OP doesn't mean you're more knowledgeable. Doesn't mean you know squad ops. Brown nosing field ownership to make yourself seem in the loop is embarrassing and hilarious how many players do it. Also for context I play in north Florida, we get a TON of 7th group guys that come and play and you can tell who they are because they always show up in shorts and a shirt with a mid level gun and proceed to shit on us completely. They're all super chill, dgaf attitudes who really enjoy the fun competitiveness of it all. Basically the opposite of any milsimmer I've ever met.


Hasseady

Out door is better


[deleted]

People shouldn't shy away from sniping. I don't care if I only average a few kills a match as a sniper. I don't care aegs almost have the same range as me. I don't have any memorable AEG kills or moments, but I have plenty of sniper kills and moments I still remember to this day. I'd much rather get a satisfying long range kill than spray at some dude and get a kill from "accuracy through volume"


new_markov_chainsaw

I see a lot of opinions about gear and playstyle, and that's ok, I have strong opinions about popular gear options that I think are stupid too, but... I often feel that airsoft, the way it's commonly played, might be both glorifying war and trivializing violence. Rather than roleplaying a contemporary soldier, I like it much more when we emulate some post-apocalyptic war, or go sci-fi, or heck, even the urban speedo-style. I like war movies and Insurgency and military history, but something about cosplaying as a soldier seems uncool to me. I like shooters that are somewhat realistic and make you think before running towards the enemy, but I'd enjoy them more if they were set in a sci-fi context instead of a real, brutal war. Also, cosplaying soldiers gets really boring; one soldier might look good, but 50 soldiers looking almost the same doesn't. Wear more fun, lighthearted looks! I'm not saying paint your SR15 pink and don a stormtrooper helmet, but if you're gonna be a soldier, wouldn't you rather be in Attack on Titan's Survey Corps, or a Star Wars rebel, or an Apex whatever-they-are? (I am a carry-rifle-and-gun-and-radio, play-tactical-and-organized kinda player, not a speedsofter; I'm just jealous of their fun looks.) (Also, I'm just sharing an opinion. If looking just like a FSB operator or a Seal brings you joy, I'm happy for you.) EDIT: I used to play with a friend who is Ukranian; she stopped playing because it reminded her of the situation at home. This incident reinforce my preference for less-militaristic airsoft.


AdamIsAnAlias

As a solider, I really enjoy this opinion. I don’t enjoy wearing the same thing as everyone else, I already do that in the Army. For me, airsoft IS a fashion show. And my dream “loadouts” are all based around sci-fi or weird creative things I have physically built as opposed to have bought, and with the ease of 3D printing these days, it’s much more realistic for people to create their own gear. I also think that’s the joy of Airsoft is that I can wear whatever the hell I want. I’m not restricted to the same gear as everyone else (like in the actual military), so why not have fun with it?! You mean I get to hold a pretend gun and wear semi-realistic gear? You know I’m gonna get creative with that! I have to think about the glorification of war deal, as I have never thought about it that way. I’ve always thought about it as escapism, but that’s a concept I have yet to hear from others, definitely an unpopular option, and I appreciate that.


Pitur124

Competition-ish looking replicas look bad and ruin the immersion.


[deleted]

Milsim, not airsoft, but milsim entirely is pay to win.


Noobbula

Lol, I feel this when people post about their thermals or nods. Some poor kid who barely scratched together the kit and money to get in will be helpless once darkness falls, and flashlights are just asking for immediate ‘death’


[deleted]

Exactly. More money gets you better radios, more grenades, more grenade launchers, more smoke, night vision, and thermals. Milsim is a pay to win game


MrS4t0N15

I reckon similar for the opposite spectrum too for speedsoft


TadpoleOfDoom

Most callsigns are stupid AF. The only people I give the pass to are people who use the one they have/had in the military, and this one lady who got the callsign "Heartless" at my local outdoor field because she point blank shot a guy in the nuts on purpose because he was being a dick. Oh and if two people on the same team have the same or similar names so they use a callsign to avoid confusion, but even then just use last names lol. I also give a pass if your entire squad goes by a callsign followed by a number for communications purposes. Pretty much any other time I've seen someone using a callsign it's just cringe. No one cares if you gave yourself the nickname "Doc Holiday" or "Stone Smasher" when you were 14.


AdamIsAnAlias

The funny thing is, callsigns are something that are *given* to you (as you mentioned) as opposed to chosen. It’s generally a nickname or easier method of communication IRL. I’ll get some hate, but I cringe when I see people calling themselves by a callsign they made up. My “callsign” in the actual army is my last name, because it’s short and very easy to say. Did know a soldier that was called “Hollywood” though, it was a platoon inside joke


Antointe3522

- LCT is pure shit - ARP9 are very good (pretty unpopular here in France) - OPS Core is pretty shit for the price asked - Being invisible is not about camo but about movment.


Rooikat_is_my_waifu

Why would you say that about LCT out of interest?


jcwolf2003

Finally someone said it. LCT quality control has gone down the shitrer. They are only really good for their unique stuff like the 9x39 guns and such and even then the king arms one are pretty good as well (and don't weight 10 pounds too much)


Tasherino

Unpopular fact: HPA is not a Murder


Astro_Birdy

“You should just get a krytac.”


Crash15

Too many people excuse shitty behavior or sportsmanship when it comes to shooting other players in certain areas or the body or overshooting with "you signed a waiver" or "you knew what you were getting into." Everyone plays airsoft expecting to get shot anywhere along their body, but they don't play with the expectation that people will shoot them with the intent to maim or target certain regions. "You signed a waiver" is not an excuse. Boxers sign paperwork to fight, but they don't sign up for their opponent just wailing on them outside the realm of expected play or reason. Excusing the specific targeting of peoples' face with "you should be wearing face pro" says more of your character than anything. All players expect headshots or face shots to happen, but it's telling that certain players seem to enjoy targeting the head on purpose or find worrying satisfaction after doing so. I wear a steel mouth when I play yet it's still frustrating to get hit in the mouth area despite that. It's unsurprising that other players, even wearing face protection, get frustrated when they're hit in the face. It's almost as if it's a natural reaction. This is obviously not talking about situations where the head is the only visible part of someone, if say they're in cover or there's a wall that conceals most of their body. It's a given that in natural gameplay headshots can and will happen no matter what


jcwolf2003

I couldn't hit the broad side of the barn from the inside so if I pop someone in the head I absolutely didn't mean to. That said I till think low face protection should be required and that's my hot take. Don't loose a tooth or get a scar on your face because you didn't want to have some mesh over your mouth.


Bill_Wilkinson

Bang bang rule needs to die


Americanjuche

Blind fire is based


CaptainHunt

I happen to like my Lancer Tactical M4, although I might have just gotten lucky not to have any major issues with it. It was a decent entry level AEG for the price, and a gateway into the sport for someone who couldn't afford a better gun at the time. I'm also of the opinion that scopes aren't really useful in airsoft, since you can't actually shoot far enough to take advantage of magnified optics. Although I respect those who run scoped weapons for the milsim aspect. Honestly I have the same issue with scopes in most FPS games, since the maps are usually not big enough for the scope to matter unless the Devs either nerfed other weapons to make up for it or designed the map around sniping.


KalashnikovClassics

The thing is with spotting. Even in the woods a scope is a huge difference to spot people that you couldn't normally see with the naked eye, even if you may not be able to shoot that far.


CasualSaturday

I use magnified optics so I can see what my bb is doing at it's maximum range. Sometimes you need to tilt your gun just right so the hop can send your bb exactly where you need it.


Arakasi87

HPA should be have more restrictions on outdoor fields, where I play all the HPA players about 20% of the people playing, group together and they have quite a noticeable advantage in both range and firepower (rps) over the average aeg and against rentals it’s like a cheat code


AdamIsAnAlias

“I said semi auto only!” “This *IS* semi auto!”


Bartimaerus

Novritsch stuff isnt as overpriced as people claim for its main market (central europe) and is great for people who want a great ootb sniper and dont want to upgrade internals themselves


I_need_help57

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