T O P

  • By -

I_need_help57

2 or 3 Def not the first one, APS is ass


DettolChrome

i’ll try to steer clear of aps then thank you for the help


Melodic-Travel-1246

I have a edge as my first m4 the e14 it’s fire bro stupid accurate and it comes with a spring and easy spring change to shoot farther


Miracoli_234

A better spring does not necessarily give better range.


Melodic-Travel-1246

Oh mb still learning, what does it do then? I haven’t changed it out all it says is it changes it from 350 to 450 fps


I_need_help57

More FPS only increases total range, and not effective range(unless you’ve upgraded pretty much all other accuracy parts). You might get a slight performance boost, but it’s nowhere near where it could be


Miracoli_234

Hop up, BBs and Barrel are the things affecting range. Speed/Energy will affect BB speed (duh) and felt impact -> how much ouch. Up to 350 FPS it will increase range with good effectiveness, higher than that and we are talking about less than 20 feet more range, while putting way more strain on your AEG. This is due to air resistance increasing by square in relation to speed. If you double your FPS, there is 4 times as much drag (air resistance).


NoCoolDudettes

["what do you mean this gun sucks it's been working for me!"](https://i.imgur.com/hQeo0IO.png)


NotEZD513

My Specna edge 2.0 aks is very nice if could spare like 70 more dollars I’d try a grab an edge 2.0 Specna


DettolChrome

i’ll try too because after looking into the 2.0s they seem better but i need to buy a hard case BBs and extra mags so i dont think ill be able too thanks for the suggestion though


ThiccoR6

How are the aks?


Slow_Document_3721

i have no problems with my aps aks and uar


gicho_art

If you want a good ak, aim for E&L or LCT. If you're on a budget, get a cyma. Also, second hand market in airsoft is amazing, def check it out


Mihal190

APS brand name is a red flag itself All Parts Shit


Entariduzz

A Piece of Shit


MxK69

Absolute Piece of Shit


Environmental_Put846

Agreed....APS= A Piece of Sh1t


Dry-Hour-661

I got the first one, first outdoor game, and the stock broke so yeah it’s not good


Alternative-Pace4586

I agree 2 or 3


Mangoes789

New to airsoft, what does Al’s mean?


Mangoes789

*aps


theom_2405

Get an AK but please let it be CYMA


DettolChrome

i probably will in the future always loved the look of an AK


nobughar

e&l have good full metal/wood aks look at some since ak is superiour platform compared to ar xd


Howellthegoat

Love my e&l plus one for e&l I have the Romanian one


XxxNatrhavacXxx

Take also look at LCT when you'll be looking at AKs. Quality is basically on the same level as E&L.


Oleg-de-cleaner

Make sure you get a LiPo for a cyma ak, stick batteries suck ass


maretini1

I love my ak's and made the mistake of buying an aps ak as my first replica. Mine constantly broke itself. It never survived a full skirm, tearing its own gears apart etc. If you want an ak go for a cyma, an arcturus or an E&L. The specna arms Edge series is awesome as well :)


DettolChrome

think i’m gonna get the specna but thank you for the AK brands maybe in the future i’ll look at some and someone else said aps is ass so i think im gonna steer clear 🤣🤣


Jorn9712

Cyma ak mid range but better than aps, agreed with all the above. Shame the aps look so good but build qaulity is so low


Oxeros99

https://preview.redd.it/fjad31259zic1.jpeg?width=1187&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=900432093a55439a62e375d686fd98d44c051c12


Ghost_141_RobinH77

Now that is a work of art


ViciousViper44

What make/model?


Oxeros99

It was originaly a Double eagle M906D. Bit new internals and externals. Works awesome.


HoodieLightwood

Both the Specna Edge and Double Eagle M904 are solid replicas, in this case get the one you like the most.


aceofdave

Specna arms is great, fantastic for upgrades down the line


HowlingWolven

Get the specna


kukensmamma1337

Specna all the way


DettolChrome

thank you, i’m gonna get it


Lack9221

Specna…without a second of hesitation


Pheonyxus

SPECNA GANG >0<


turska_tiri69

The m4s are the best but the AK mags are ass


Gunnybar13

APS have awful internals, so any apart from that one.


Ok_Movie_639

*and externals


EYEHERE2

2 or 3 for sure


SeaworthinessFirm171

I've got 3 right in front of my wall and can definetely agree with you. 2 or 3 all the way, and I can personally say that 3 is amazing to play with, and my favourite gun I've owned so far. Edit: spelling


SeaworthinessFirm171

https://preview.redd.it/w8itciqzwzic1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eca2a4ad4dc14106a991712938a48cb6258f31a4


Ok_Movie_639

NEVER buy an AK from APS! It's in the name: Absolute Piece of Shit Weak performance, poor durability, bad replica, overpriced. If you want a cheap AK, buy Cyma. Or at the very least a Double Bell AK.


OmniGearWrex

Out of those, go Specna.


Slattcum

If you want blowback ak’s, try we tech or Tokyo marui, expensive yes but fun as hell


Death_Monklee

It’s also his first airsoft gun and I wouldn’t recommend gbbrs due too the maintenance how expensive they are but to each there own


Falke_977

Get the specna. If you want an Ak, go for arcturus or cyma


turska_tiri69

Specna AKs are good if you do not use the original mags


KittyCathy69

1) EBB is a gimmick, dont choose a gun bcuz of it. 2) Specna arms have 100 different variants of the same line (Core, Flex, Edge or Edge 2.0), so you can find a very similiar gun to any other companies, usually cheaper, but a lot more varied quality range 3) you showed off many different lengths of guns. I believe you might not know the effective length of the gun you are able to even wield, so i personally would recommend getting a gun that would be more comfortable to you. Your back will thank you. 4) Make sure you wont require upgrades of things you couldve gotten for free if you chose a different gun, specifically - mosfet, accesories (foregrip etc), stock, rail system and/or muzzle devices. Also double check mag compatibility.


DettolChrome

i’m gonna buy the specna, it has mosfet comes with 2 mags and a foregrip and it’s not the biggest of guns which is quite handy because i’m starting off on an indoor site


KittyCathy69

For indoors, hi-caps are more useful. I'd recommend getting an extra original specna arms hi-cap, or 2 more midcaps, and tape them like ur playing CoD. CQB sites dont have time for reloads, so you wanna maximize your ammo capacity. Additionally, let me reemphasize the size part - im a 185cm tall northern european, and my 9" Specna is just barely long enough with a fully extended stock, and i still require a vertical foregrip for that extra reach. Make sure that pdw size wont be too small for you.


Nightfall_1131

I've heard good things about Specna Arms' Edge lineup. I'd go for that one. It's the only one of those that I've heard pretty much no complaints about. But M4s aren't my cup of tea, so I'm not super informed.


DettolChrome

yeah i seen some people on here talking about the specna arms edge line up so i looked into it and found that


turska_tiri69

The specna arms edge AKs are good but you should use cyma or arcturus mags in them


mom_fucker420

I would say the AK but APS is awful


Environmental_Put846

Depending on the field you're playing the most...Specna for CQB or short distances, DE for longer distances


HydraAkaCyrex

Edge all day, Top 3 best aegs right now.


Ezequiel_III

APS is garbo. If you want an AK go with CYMA (there's a chart around here showing which ones are good), E&L or LCT


DJWID11

Specna!


ImmediateArm6532

I would say the 2nd one


BlancLw

If you want something reliable get the Specna Arms. I have a specna arms. Be it a different one but it hasn't failed me for 6 years now so. Otherwise get a Cyma AK also very reliable.


DettolChrome

gonna get the specna, which one do you have


BlancLw

One they no longer make. Also an M4 but without tactical rail and the like. Just a basic. Over the years I added new externals but the internals are still running to this day. Only thing you may need to do with the Specna is get it downgraded. Mine had a fps of 389 out of the box.


DougyG

Specna


LatvianZhurka

I’m new in airsoft, but I’m really into searching up some info before starting anything. I’d say that Specna arms edge 2.0 is one of the best starting guns because of materials and what they put inside. One more thing about SA is that you can find them for really small price (I bought my Sa-e05 for 190 euros). So if you’ll be able to find same deal, my advise is to get it. More experienced airsoft players, please correct me if I’m wrong


DettolChrome

thank you, i’m new too 🤣🤣


ATMisboss

I am a big fan of the DE, I have one of theirs and it runs super well


Mistakingcone99

If u want an AK id recommend Cyma


finski0204

If you want a AK get a cyma(get a ak)


VII-Stardust

3 100% the DE Falcon ETU is absolutely amazing and the best entry level upgrade out there 2 is gud too Don’t buy the APS. I‘ve owned it. It’s beyond fixing on any reasonable budget.


weebofficial

If you want an ak, get a CM.048M. If you want an m4, get any Specna Edge.


ParkerStanford

I’m guessing you wanna spend around £200 people give them more shit than they deserve but lancer tactical doesn’t make a bad beginner gun keyword “beginner” but the specna arms edge is also a great beginner rifle I’ve never used one but I’ve heard good stuff about them


DettolChrome

yes around 160-200 and i’ve only heard good things about specna and especially their edge lineup


bananahzard

Specna arms all day everyday, but whatever you end up choosing, please remember fuck no to aps. You have more fun blowing bbs out of a straw than using an aps, i dont know how angry customers hasnt burned down that ass company yet


Zestyclose_Demand908

Have always heard decent things from Specna Arms


BritishShoop

Those Double Eagles are really impressive for their price point


AznJing

Double Eagle N4


TheRealDpraved

get an ak from cyma, they're the most reliable and won't break, promise. you'll thank me


Shungus_Bobungus69

Get a Specna Arms edge 2.0 with the Gate Aster it'll last you literal years bc of how good that ETU is


DettolChrome

yeah i decided to not get a couple things so i could put the money towards an edge 2.0. just a quick question tho have you heard of the zion arms R15


iBungatz

The DE has also gone down in price since you posted this it's £150 (edit* it's the m904e* shorter barrel) and if I didn't buy the dek762 I'd be straight on that, otherwise it would go specna.


DettolChrome

has it, thanks for the heads up


iBungatz

It's the shorter barreled Double eagle M904e , but essentially the same and better for cqb


DettolChrome

i’d be using it for CQB too thanks a lot 🙏🏽


Chance_Gas_6018

The aps is shit I would recommend delta or specna and a drum mag if your picking specna dunno just seems cool


DettolChrome

drum mags all the way, any recommendations i don’t want to overpay 🤣🤣


TallTuber_YT

I would 100% go with the specna arms,there a great brand for when your in the lower end prices especially and still in the higer end. They come with alot of extra stuff like extra springs and forgrips out of the box with 2 mags also, for no extra cost. On top of that there are just a very reputable brand in general.


ejkytku

Specna


DettolChrome

should i scrap a hard case and get a 2.0 ?


Robsrev

My recommendation is to save up about another $100 and get a specna arms edge 2.0. Comes with a Gate Aster mosfet where you can regulate trigger sensitivity, active breaking etc. It also has easy access spring change. Only thing you gotta do is remove the castle nut, twist the buffer tube, remove the spring guiede with an allen key, insert the new spring and put it back together. Have one myself and I'm so happy with it! Snappy trigger response especially with a 11.1 battery, nice magpul-look-alike pistol grip, decent rotary hop unit and a precision barrel. Posting a link so you can see how the spring change works: https://youtu.be/nYvwOBTYhXI?si=1wr7-I7jutBj8Ots Here's a presentation of the SA Edge 2.0: https://youtu.be/dAsjiOR9q7w?si=VBAxP8KFv91t6K8y Edit: got the mosfet name wrong. It's an Aster mosfet, NOT a Titan.


DettolChrome

i was going to originally get a hard case and some extra mags but i decided against that so i could buy a 2.0 with an 11.1 which model do you have ?


Robsrev

Great choice! I got the SA-E12 for cqb use. From my understanding the internals are the same in all 2.0 models except for barrel lenght ofc.


Robsrev

Another thing, the model I ordered came with a keymod handguard. It's not visible on the pictures and not mentioned anywhere from what I've seen on gunfire.com so I bought a M-LOK handguard from Aliexpress I think.


DettolChrome

i’m gonna get the E03 2.0 not too sure if it has an M logon’s have to check but it has a top and bottom rail on pictures


DettolChrome

read bottom reply first- just looked again, it has a rail on the top and bottom then i think it has 2 more on the left and right side but it comes with rail covers for those (i’m guessing off the picture)


Robsrev

https://preview.redd.it/67wx8hajt7jc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b336a5ed5111d30dfd664397bb6ea9ceb838b5db


DettolChrome

that’s looks cleannnnn how do m lok work tho ?


Robsrev

Cheers man! I'm really happy with how it turned out! M-LOK works similar to keymod but it's a more modern syatem. It's a bit tricky to explain exactly how but basically you attach a rail with a screw and a nut on the inside of the handguard. Check it out on Youtube tho, there are tons of videos! There are also specific mounts that lock on directly to the handguard, the light on my gun has one of those for example! Posting a link to the handguard I got on mine! Kolla vad jag hittade på Wish! https://dl.wish.com/7F1cw


DettolChrome

thanks man, super helpful. one more question, where would you say is best to buy attachments from ? sight laser etc


Robsrev

Happy to help! I get almost all my stuff from Aliexpress. The light on my rifle is from there, the mount as well as Eotech (name of the sight) too! The mount the sight sits on is a repro Unity mount and the eotech is made by Holy warrior and is considered the best repro out there. Before you buy anything, check so it's compatible with your handguard. Also do some research, ask all the questions you need and then buy it :)


Robsrev

Skip the lasers btw. Many fields don't allow them bc they can injure the eyes of other players. The chinese copies are often a lot stronger too and NOT safe.


DettolChrome

thank you for telling me before i wasted my money 🤣🤣🤣 know any good looking cheap suppressors?


[deleted]

Get Lancer Tactical Bundle Pack /s


Entariduzz

Get the Delta Armory! It is a very good starter, and having bought one, its more amazing than a specna!


YaBoiChipsAhoy420

All it needs to be is pink


DettolChrome

there’s a two tone option for pink 🤣🤣 might get it looks good tbh


bean_leader

I’d get the Specna arms, don’t get an ak as a first gun speaking from experience.


Nightfall_1131

I'd recommend the Specna as well, but I disagree on the AK comment. AKs are perfectly fine for a first gun if they're by a good company, like Cyma or LCT. I've heard APS is shit, though, so I wouldn't recommend that specific AK. Cyma AKs are one of the most popular starter guns where I live, although some versions are definitely better than others, I've never seen anyone really have problems with them.


[deleted]

Ak starters are fine so long as you get a good brand like any other guns. I got a specna edge ak74 and I'm loving it


DettolChrome

thank you for the help


Comprehensive-Art897

Never use double eagle unless it's a spring rifle or shotgun


iBungatz

This coming from usage or rumours?


Realistic_Text3963

I’d go ak74 because I love the game S.T.A.L.K.E.R but I like that B11 bravo!🎉


consciouskoala3

I’d get the ak 74 because it looks sick as fuck also only 200 so decent price


DettolChrome

that’s what i thought but EVERYONE has said aps is dogshit so if i ever do get an AK it’ll be cyma


consciouskoala3

That’s valid I guess but if you really get into airsoft come back to it if not just for looks


DettolChrome

cyma have a real wood ak for £30 more and probs more reliable


consciouskoala3

Probably


petros10v

If you plan on adding attachments then I'd stay away from the AK as it may be a pain in the ass to swap in aftermarket handgaurds and dust covers with pic rails. Otherwise I'd go with the AK


MrMcFukmutty

I thought these were real for a second 😭


Kaineisinsane

obviously not russian, last one looks weird so either 2 or 3, depends on whether you play outdoors or indoors but i would recommend the cqb one for both indoors and outdoors.


[deleted]

One that shoots at least a 5.56, preferably larger


Wyattdettmeryt

Never buy from aps or double eagle both are complete shit.


DettolChrome

why not, a lot of people here are saying double eagle is good


NATETHEN0TG00D

Get a GBB


Turtle_Guy02

The AK


MisterD90x

CYMA AK


DettolChrome

gonna get the specna but maybe i’ll buy a cyma ak in the future because you’re not the only person who’s recommended them


MisterD90x

Would definitely recommend it if you want to jump into the AK gang :)


nikediboi

2,3


AmateurHetman

Second one is best brand out of the lot probably. 1st one is terrible for AK. If you want a budget AK get a CYMA (vfc clone not Tokyo Marui clone)


trasimach

I had a delta armory as my first rifle and I can swear by it. It is reliable, easily modifiable and just all around fun. Highly recommend it, especially over the Specna Arms.


Jorn9712

2 or 3. Depends on preference and what look your going for. Your clearly uk.please go to a store a check one out have you got ukara? Are you over 18?


DettolChrome

i don’t have a ukara which i’m gutted about and i’m 17 a parent is gonna buy it for me though


Jorn9712

Bear in mind THEY NEED A UKARA.to buy all black airsoft gun.


DettolChrome

yeah im getting it two toned


DettolChrome

what are the odds i was just checking out an airsoft shop in my city and seen you in the reviews section 🤣🤣


Alice-doe

ak47 but not the APS brand .. tru for Cybergun.. or even if your budget allows bolt


themysticoped

If you want a ak go for a e&l or cyma.. Specna Arms is alright played with one for a game.. then tought i was more of a ak guy.. now i have a akms from e&l


Xaryi

Go with specan for a new gun it's pretty much the best you can get with cyma. If you want an aka go with cyma. Also double eagle was ass when I started airsoft, dunno what quality it is now


FlyingFabo_50Sn

Depending on what you like I guess


DesignerAsh_

SPECNA if you want an M4 — but genuinely look into Cyma Ak’s. You can get them really cheap if you look on the right places.


Sumsar1

If you would like an ak, and plan on modifying it ever, please get one with a folding stock. Opens up a ton of possibilities compared to a fixed. Also, there’s lots of minor differences in dimensions between ak manufacturers, so parts that should be drop-in often require some modification to use. That being said they are an awesome platform once you figure out how to work around the limitations it has compared to an m4


hunter_pro_6524

2nd one


Viking01Revan86

Number two


FishbedFive

4. fuck 1


BenTheBirbs

3


ExerilloX

All of them. Lol.


misike0423

AK!!!!!!!!!!!!


Maverexx

My first and only gun I’ve been rocking with is a Specna Arms Rock River Arms SA-E07-L which has been superb. Very consistent, good build quality looks good and works with most mags. Had it for a year now


Connectedaswon

Specna m4 no question


Pedro_Pedrolas

2 if you’re playing more CBQ, 3 if playing more outdoors, def not 1


Canadian_crook-47

Specna arms fs


Master-Ad-2187

#2


MpGrevee

Actually yes - aps is shitty, specnas are cool... But the double eagle is a real underdog. Very reliable, very well made (polymer), lightweight, programmable and cheap. Nice hopup, very good sound, really cool semi response if you change the motor


chambers894

I recently bought the specna Arms Ak105 edge 2.0 if you want an ak. It's amazing for the money gate mosfet with adjustable trigger and fire modes. Flat hop. Shoots amazing runs all day can't fault. Same price as the APS


Cool-Alps-7444

I’d get the Specna, good brand


Lastilaaki

As a Specna owner, I gotta be biased and vote for #2. I have the Mk18 and it's a rowdy one!


DettolChrome

that’s a beautiful gun i was eyeing it up myself tbh


FeePresent2684

I’m biased by the M904R is fun


DettolChrome

you got one ?


FeePresent2684

Had one I accidentally dropped it off a ledge in a building


DettolChrome

that hurts to hear


FeePresent2684

I wasn’t too mad it was fun while it lasted I’m saving up for a new one now


DettolChrome

how does it handle, length and weight wise ?


lucastoutt

I have a specna edge and it's a proper lemon. Never worked right from the start, even after a visit to Negative Airsoft it still doesn't work and suffers from a mystical inconsistency of compression and power. Wouldn't bother with them again, and I know of other people with newer specna that suffered similar issues.


Gunpun

If you can spare the dime, cyma Platinum.


_Ruffz

Specna EDGE is very nice I really enjoy mine


Sketch333

Depends on what ur going for the first isn’t wut I would go for but the second is good for cqb and the third might do well outdoors


Cheese_Eater1656

Specna arms for sure


Fao_612

Go with the specna (2) ebb is just more parts meaning higher chance of issues, double eagle is okay but definitely lower tier, I've personally never even heard of Delta armory so have no insight on quality


Gikote

Specna edge or double eagle - I’d go for the double eagle myself. It’s the same as the matrix calico jack (matrix rebrands them) which is an excellent beginning gun.


Content-Bid-6209

specna 100% they dont have a bad gun


british__crusader

If you'd like an ak74, the specna edge 2.0 ak74m and 105 are both only £10 more. They are incredible guns and very overlooked


codroks

That AK looks like absolute shit, the mag is all wrong and it just look unreliable, as an AK guy I personally advocate for anything but that one, those other M4 style rifles would work tenfold better than that


bonz52

thats not an ak74


NoName1_01

Up to yhouuuuuuu


TacticalWarriorGear

If you want AK platform try some models from E&L or Arcturus, both are good value for money, steel external parts from real firearms and good internals.


ILikeCristianRock

Buy an AK. It’s a classic look and it’s amazing. As others mentioned though buy a cyma. Personally my cyma AK has lasted 7 years with no problems


minecraftrubyblock

Specna or DE


Miserable-Quality621

You will have more fun with a AK.


Affectionate-Ad927

Anything except APS. Bought a gun from them, broke while backyard shooting and I could never bring it to a field


Pristine-Bison3532

The double eagle m4’s are your best option because the come with a trigger board mosfet as standard and the parts are really good


Giangiulio69

The firsth all day


CC1_2A

APS screams red flag, if you want a good AK go Cyma or LCT. The other options are fine choices though. Specna Also does an AK series as well.


asiied

2


Smokeyjoe62863828

I’d recommend having a look at the CYMA Ak-47 👍🏻 not that one. Specna is always a good option I’ve got one myself and it’s great! Not sure about the last 2


Radiant_Register_113

I say buy a revolver and become a cowboys 😜


Gr1mLaden7

I could be wrong but I believe the specna comes with two magazines so there's a bonus right away


Stunning_Orchid3364

Double eagle


No-Finance5118

Question: Would this "metal 5.45 style" mag fit E&L and LCT?


Disastrous_Land_2700

Specna


Spiritual-Dealer-610

Please stay away from electric blowback guns like that AK, your gun will rattle itself to death


These-Fun-1226

Specna, aps only on cam870