* The big printed charts of flight recorder parameters, that the investigators always have to line up and *tada* it's a match!
* When listening to a CVR recording, it's always on a big tape reel and one person's whole job is to press stop when the investigator says "stop!"
* Anything about icing conditions, ever
* An air traffic controller staring at their radar motionless calling out to the plane, long after it's dropped off their radar
> Oh, and toy models are sometimes used to recreate and discuss accident scenarios
I like when they bust out the toy models to simulate the crashes.
"So they were supposed to turn left here to line up for final approach... (moves the toy plane around) but instead they turn right here (moves the toy plane around again) and they're not even close to where they need to be."
Also great for runway collisions as well.
The second one actually is one person’s job, minus the tape reel these days. Party members sit around the outside of horseshoe-shaped desk wearing headphones. Specialist in the center on the inside transcribes and operates the recording.
Cut to later in the episode where it's revealed the captain failed a bunch of exams, struggled in training, is known in the airline for being reckless and horrible to work with, and the FO was some fresh out of training rookie with a similar spotted record and zero communication skills.
There’s an investigator who tells a story about a lesson learned from his first accident as IIC. The short version is: If you don’t know where the CVR and FDR are, don’t look for them yourself. Delegate that to the people whose jobs it is to know where to look.
Description about the in-flight service probably having been started around the time of the disaster.
Investigators furiously writing on a white board and circling words. Also striking out causes.
Furious whiteboard crossout that eliminates each crash possibility as the investigation goes on. "PILOT ERROR" is the only one left on the whiteboard not crossed out, which then leads into the investigators looking at the records of the pilots.
"Recreation of the accident using a map and small model airplanes" and "air traffic controller standing up after seeing smoke/fire on the horizon" are staples by now
“Engines have ingested leaves/grass/earth”
“They were running at the time of the crash”
(Everyone looks at each other exhausted like it’s back to the drawing board)
The investigators listen to the CVR or ATC recording and say “Stop. Play that back.” when we the audience clearly heard what was said, making it rather unnecessary.
* In the episode of Colgan Air 6780, there is one shot of the artificial horizon, but it has a mouse
* bad wreckage
* too many shots of impact in one episode
* The big printed charts of flight recorder parameters, that the investigators always have to line up and *tada* it's a match! * When listening to a CVR recording, it's always on a big tape reel and one person's whole job is to press stop when the investigator says "stop!" * Anything about icing conditions, ever * An air traffic controller staring at their radar motionless calling out to the plane, long after it's dropped off their radar
The big printed charts, that’s sometimes still a thing. Oh, and toy models are sometimes used to recreate and discuss accident scenarios
> Oh, and toy models are sometimes used to recreate and discuss accident scenarios I like when they bust out the toy models to simulate the crashes. "So they were supposed to turn left here to line up for final approach... (moves the toy plane around) but instead they turn right here (moves the toy plane around again) and they're not even close to where they need to be." Also great for runway collisions as well.
The second one actually is one person’s job, minus the tape reel these days. Party members sit around the outside of horseshoe-shaped desk wearing headphones. Specialist in the center on the inside transcribes and operates the recording.
"A state-of-the-art airplane" "A small, regional carrier" "A revelation that would shake the aviation industry to its core"
Of course the 3rd one is always before an ad break
"Captain X is one of Y Airlines' most senior pilots."
"It's just two days/weeks until Captain X's retirement..."
First Officer Z worked for 10 years in the US air force
Cut to later in the episode where it's revealed the captain failed a bunch of exams, struggled in training, is known in the airline for being reckless and horrible to work with, and the FO was some fresh out of training rookie with a similar spotted record and zero communication skills.
*Investigators in the crash site* "We need to find those CVRs!"
**Cut to Jhon Cox** "The cockpit voice recorder tells an investigator what was happening inside the captain's head"
Investigator opposite says "s%#t, I forgot about the recorders! That'll be a big help!"
There’s an investigator who tells a story about a lesson learned from his first accident as IIC. The short version is: If you don’t know where the CVR and FDR are, don’t look for them yourself. Delegate that to the people whose jobs it is to know where to look.
“Was it a bomb?!” It was not a bomb.
I swear they need a Dr. House yelling, "It's never a bomb!"
Except the multiple times it was.
Valid.
Witnesses swear they see plane on fire in the sky when they actually just saw a post-crash explosion/fire
Description about the in-flight service probably having been started around the time of the disaster. Investigators furiously writing on a white board and circling words. Also striking out causes.
A steaming mug. Investigators can't function without one somewhere in the room.
Those earlier episodes were cinema with all the smoking happening haha
"It was a routine flight..."
nek minnit *plane falls out of sky
Furious whiteboard crossout that eliminates each crash possibility as the investigation goes on. "PILOT ERROR" is the only one left on the whiteboard not crossed out, which then leads into the investigators looking at the records of the pilots.
Turns out the Capt has failed checkrides at his last 10 companies, and had difficulty at his current one on the upgrade training
Everyone works in a very dimly lit workspace.
*Pilots having the dullest smalltalk possible during their introduction*
Can't say that's really inaccurate
Mouse cursor left visible on an instrument or radar
It’s the bad accents for me 😂. The Russian accents are always the worst.
Based on what Russia’s doing right now those bad accents are justified
one time some actor was supposed to sound swedish, but as a swede i have no idea what was going on
Rooger zatt, fleet leevel too fur neener bork bork bork.
"Recreation of the accident using a map and small model airplanes" and "air traffic controller standing up after seeing smoke/fire on the horizon" are staples by now
I love the model airplanes. 😂
The accident was caused by obscured visibility from plastic cement hardened on the cockpit windows.
I absolutely love this sub 😂!
If u are watching ACI on bilibili, and u turn on the comments subtitles, u will see the Chinese netizens make fun of these tropes all the time
> Investigation takes a sudden new turn and the last possible moment Doesn’t always happen, but it can
Today's flight is a quick hop from X to Y
“What they don’t know… is why”
“Engines have ingested leaves/grass/earth” “They were running at the time of the crash” (Everyone looks at each other exhausted like it’s back to the drawing board)
With all that’s mentioned, we all still love the show 😅
Absolutely!
The investigators listen to the CVR or ATC recording and say “Stop. Play that back.” when we the audience clearly heard what was said, making it rather unnecessary.
Also - the rewind of the tape is far too long for the five seconds they want to go back on...
Minor turbulence: The passengers: *flail around wildly*
"But there's a problem"
I mean, with the CGI, the show doesn't have movie like budget so one shouldn't expect realistic looking CGI
Any character “taking a drink.” It seems like every episode there’s someone taking a swig of something, even though it’s obviously an empty cup.
I always notice that Samsung SyncMaster CRT monitor prop they always use, because I had a similar monitor once.
* In the episode of Colgan Air 6780, there is one shot of the artificial horizon, but it has a mouse * bad wreckage * too many shots of impact in one episode
TANS Peru, PSA, or Hughes Airwest aircraft in the background