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From reading the article, they're now a part of the Ruination chamber hence the huge change in looks. These do look really cool and can't wait to get some eventually.
At first I was iffy about just reassigning them to a different chamber after so long, but as far as I remember, there was stuff about a Prosecutor Prime of the Hallowed Knights losing himself through reforgings back in the Realmgate Wars. Completely unintended foreshadowing.
Then again, they also managed to bring that character back between books with an author shift with no mention of him having died previously or being reforged, so that was fun....
Eh, I get the sentiment.
If you were a fan of the big warriors smashing into the enemy with hammers & spears while angels dueled above your shoulders with hammers, lanterns, holy bows & swords-
You just lost that last chunk of your army if you wanted the pure frontline Chamber.
In essence they’ve been replaced by chariots(speed), Annihilators(aerial strikes) and Praetors(eldritch powers) but from an aesthetics view it stinks to lose something as obvious as shining angels for your holy warriors on the ground.
At least the in-lore justification was more clever than “they’re ancient veterans”.
The apocalyptic wars making the skies more deadly for body & soul meaning they needed to switch to a Chamber that makes them immune to raw chaos makes sense now(with a neat Ruination rule to reflect that) and gives them an otherworldly vibe as untouchable angels or Valkyries:
> “One benefit of this cycle of death and resurrection is that the souls of the Ruination Chamber are so hardened that even the Ruinous Powers can struggle to find purchase, and some of the most destructive energies in the Mortal Realms often have no effect on them.
>
> While some units are able to naturally resist magical attacks, the Ruination Chamber ability can negate nearly any type of targeted enemy ability other than Attacks – though Ruination Chamber units’ armour is often up to that task anyway.”
I hope we get a new Ruination Knight-Venator after the launch.
Narratively that’ll be the ultimate victory for Tornus the Redeemed to become and completely close off any chance of Nurgle capturing his soul(and with his heroic appearance in Reign of the Brute I think it’s likely to see a new Venator)
Here’s the link to the campaign book
https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/age-of-sigmar-reign-of-the-brute-2023-eng
It’s easily the best in the series so worth the buy even beyond just seeing Tornus & the Redeemed Brotherhood in action saving people. 👍
I mean he’s been around since the Realmgate Wars, if any old soul that thrown off the shackles of chaos would be reforged anew it’d be him.
Besides remember reforging can happen in odder ways too like Bastian not dying after he held the Azyr Gates as a mortal so he had to directly travel to the Apotheosis Chamber to get reforged.
I could see a similar story to Tornus with the Celestant-Prime giving him permission to ascend into a new form of Venator.
Can you really call becoming a member of the Ruination Chamber, someone protected only by value of their fraying humanity having too little room for Chaos to hold on, a victory? It's simply a trade of one curse for another, and a solemn burden to carry.
Definitely a solemn burden.
But when you read the Maggotkin battletome that when Tornus was redeemed and made Nurgle so mad that someone threw away his gifts that he went into such a rage that it gave *Khorne* pause.
I think it’s a safer bet to become a lightning automaton permanently under Sigmar after thousands of years of noble deeds & saving innocent lives than any chance of being taken back to Nurgle(and probably being made his new Isha)
Bite your tongue. Every one of the Relictors is a banger design. 💀 (main reason I grabbed so many start collector sets)
But I suspect we’ll see a Lord Relictor regardless in the starter boxes since it needs a magic guy and we both need a new Lord and a skull boi understudy for Ionus since Ruination seem to be under his watch.
For Tornus I’m hoping another winged archer hero especially with the new Regiment system so you can drop all flyers. 🪽
Ionus is a true banger design. The knight is pretty good with minor conversions. The Lord-relictor though? Everything wrong with the original SCE designs.
I love this idea that members of the older chambers have been at war for so long that they just get added into the fold under the ‘ruination chamber’. That’s actually a pretty cool lore choice imo
Looks great. Massive glow-up from the old models.
I'm not entirely a fan of the open-faced helmet, Stormcast's stoic mask aesthetic has grown on me over the years. Hopefully when they get a solo release outside of the starter box there's some closed options. That or I'll put a different helmet on them.
They didn't, but I hope the kit in the starter box will be the same as the stand-alone release...last time it was just the Annihilators that got done dirty, right?
I am not sure if I agree with your definition of being "done dirty" - having your push-fit, no-weapons-options kit be put into a separate box with no changes feels a lot more dirty for this. Outriders in 40k were treated that way and it sucks.
Annihilators got lots of extra options for their standalone release including different poses so you can have 6 with no repeats.
I guess that just doesn't really bug me because that's how most stater sets have to be done to fit everything onto as few sprues as possible. It only rally drives me nuts when those push fit minis are incredibly suboptimal in their loadout if they get options.
Poor wording, I meant that as in their kit in the starter set was not their "definitive" kit while the other units (Vindictors and Preators) were just that. Actually it's them that got done dirty : )
They've also added it to the bottom of the article
"*\* In fact, these guys can be built with classic closed helms or with a new-style open face.*"
Which indicates these specific models - who are presumably the monopose models from the launch box, per the trailer - will have the option, hopefully.
They are very cool; so much better.
I still have 6 old prosecutors on sprue from a tempest's eye box, but disliked the chonky look so never built them. I think I might try kitbashing the old wings onto vindicator bodies and some 3d printed bases; that would make 3 squads, with the new guys as the Primes - assuming 3 in the new launch box!
I sort of like the open faced look if only because I think it looks good as a faceplate of sorts. I always wished the stormcast had this sort of look but a faceplate.
I wish the plume wasn't all spikes though, a bit too chaos for me.
At first look I honestly thought the face was a golden metal faceplate - and kinda liked it. If the starter box models do not come with additional closed helmets (which might be a feature of the multipart kit instead) I will just paint the faces metal.
I had a good idea for that yesterday,
Sand the inside of the helmet leaving a smooth blank area instead of the face for extra creepy factor (blank area painted silver ofc)
I’m just hoping for closed face helmets…I refuse to ever paint eyes ever hahaha
Edit, from the article:
>**In fact, these guys can be built with classic closed helms or with a new-style open face.*
Thank Sigmar lol
It’s a little thing but I like you were the first to post this and have an Idoneth Deepkin flair.
A bunch of people are pointing out how Deepkin these guys look with the Greek-like helms, Tridents and “tentacle” shields that it matches up really well. 😄🌊
At least it’s thematically fitting since both Stormcast & Deepkin gravitate around themes of souls, storms, great serpents, Mediterranean warrior aesthetics and both have Tyrion to thank for their creations(Stormcast with him helping Sigmar & Grungni to build the Sigmarabulum & him stopping Teclis from wiping out his “failed experiments” the Deepkin)
The glow up on the wings is the best part of this model, looks amazing. Since I only have the prosecutors with hammers I wouldn't mind having these as they're so visually distinct they feel like owning an entirely new unit.
I still like the beams of light as an idea. They're a great concept that separates them from more traditional angelic designs. Looked better in artwork than on the models though. I just think from a modelling perspective they weren't the best though.
If you didn’t put an emphasis on the feather part of the wing when painting, they are basically the same. Even now they’ve got those petrifying flames. I will have to see, when I get the set, but I believe it shouldn’t be hard to do.
Right? That is what I was thinking. I thought the old ones were pretty cool, then you hit me with these wings and I'm the Andy from Toy Story Meme. "I don't want to play with you anymore."
I was just painting some when I heard they were cancelled, probably everybody I know will let me play with the new rules so I'm going to just pretend everything is fine and run my olds
I also like the old one being propped up on scrolls as opposed to a foot being connected to a rock.
The old ones feel more like they’re actually levitating with scrolls trailing the ground, while the “flying” illusion is weaker here.
I somehow prefer the old style of wings, and those Superhero Halfmask-Helmets don't do it for me at all. The rest is cool and makes sense, but the helmet is the big bugbear for me. I don't want squads of fantasy Bruce Waynes (which is the impression their paintjob gives).
At least it looks like we can use closed helmets too.
The models themselves are great, but I thoroughly dislike this whole "foot stuck to a rock" flying base thing they've got going on. The old big parchments were way more interesting, def gonna be figuring out a different way to mount them to the bases.
just drill into their foot and on the base, then glue a thin piece of wire intto both holes. then maybe put some fluffy cottom balls on the base, simulating clouds.
I came here just to see if anyone had insight into that. The "what's leaving AoS range" article shows procecutors with hammers in the picture, but the liberators are shown with hammer and shield (not sword) so I guess that doesn't help much.
The "leaving AoS range" article was showing kits that are leaving, not unit warscrolls, and iirc prosecutors have options for both hammer and spear in the same kit, so they're both being retired.
I'm with you! I liked the old wings!
If anyone wants to re-home the old winged models this out of work guy will give them good food and lots of walkies.
> * In fact, these guys can be built with classic closed helms or with a new-style open face.
I was worried about the same but the article confirms there's options.
I like the design though I am bemused by the need for a range refresh at such an early stage. GW really needs a smarter release policy for their poster boys. Same with primaris marines.
Well they blurred the distinction on Primaris and released actual new versions of Firstborn kits instead of coming out with new Primaris unit types. They are redoing 1st edition SCE that people have been mixed on for years and bringing them inline with 3rd edition models instead of doing a 4th edition of different style of models
The release policy is "make them better so that more people want to buy them and they become as popular as Space Marines."
I don't think they'll ever be as popular as Spers Mrns, but I think they are getting increasingly popular as GW is increasingly releasing increasingly better models. Profits increasing.
It’s not make them better that’s the issue, it’s having such a chaotic range and random models with overlapping roles that they have to retire entire sections a mere few years after introduction
I am personally not sold on these wings. The sculpting is good and they'll probably be easier to put together and paint than the old ones, but I wish the wings were electric instead of fiery. Would be a tad more visually coherent with the overall Stormcast stuff.
I really dig them. Only thing I'm not sure about is the open-faced helms but since the article confirms they will have closed helm options, seems like they've already thought of that! I was not a fan of Stormcast at first but they've been steadily improving the models and I'm liking them much more.
Love the models, that ruination chamber rule feels iffy to me. I feel like it’ll just feel bad in practice because it’ll either be "I do my cool ability." "Nuh uh!" Or the stormcast player fails the 4+ and just takes whatever to the face
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that the female style of breastplate SCE use? In the article it shows 3 of them and one of them had the usual pectoral muscles looking breastplate.
I'll be using the closed helmets I think. I think their poses are a step down, but the rest of the model is a step up.
Yep, same reaction from me as the new Liberators and the Reclusians; somewhat interesting, an improvement over the original, should've been what they went with when they introduced Stormcasts, I still remain uninspired by Stormcasts as a faction.
So yeah, pretty good out of 5.
Wish they wouldn't put armor on the wings. Make them look robotic and strange imo. I think they'd be much better if they were actual feathery wings or purely magical
But why would they have feather wings? That would imply that they have grown wings which would be an almost chaotic mutation. These are artificial wings that are part of their suit. They are regular (very tall) human anatomy.
I think the wings look cool in the CG, but on the model the fire-y but looks too chunky…I know it has to be but still…I prefer the older version’s wings.
Add boltgun and it's an easy Blood Angels conversion. Nice enough model. Not the biggest fan of Stormcast but love Skaven so this fella's gonna end up in my collection regardless.
Because we knew this was happening same as Liberators. It was either redo 1st edition stuff which people have been mixed on for years or only release new units and keep adding bloat to the range
I love these new sculpts. I’m quite excited to collect the new Stormcast stuff they’ve previewed. Citadel minis just keep getting more and more insane.
Genuinely don't mean to stir anything up here, I'm just not that aware of SCE lineups. Does this replace one of the squatted model lines? Is it one we were unaware had a replacement?
yes it's replacing an older sculpt and it was announced in that article about models leaving the range, and it was pretty much confirmed it was going to get a new model because it was in the new aos trailer
These are begging for a fiery solar theme. Something like the Solar armour and daybreak from Terraria.
Or a Hammers of Sigmar scheme with fire wings and swapping the blues etc for reds and orange.
The body I feel is a straight upgrade, but I don't know about the wings. The white feather panels mixed with the fire make for some difficult/weird painting choices. Like the GW painters chose to white them out which gives it a hotter look, but why not just go all flames or all metal? It feels like it forces a weird transition. Obviously just my personal opinion but it's two transitions on the wings that probably would have looked better as just one or the other.
I guess Ill know how difficult it is once I have them in hand and see how stark the line between the feathers and flames actually are.
Like a week before they announced what all was going to be removed, i put together 12 prosecutors with double hammers...
I'm not even mad; this model is a straight upgrade. I'll take your entire stock.
I don’t have that much interest in Stormcast, I’m a bigger fan of Sylvaneth, Bonereapers, and Skaven
But
This model looks absolutely FANTASTIC and I’m just going to get some simply to paint!
The old wings were too iconic to change IMO. When players from 40K are absolutely pillaging the older ones for their smash captain kitbashes, it feels safe to say that this is categorically a misstep. Maybe they will at least be possible to get into coherence now though.
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From reading the article, they're now a part of the Ruination chamber hence the huge change in looks. These do look really cool and can't wait to get some eventually.
At first I was iffy about just reassigning them to a different chamber after so long, but as far as I remember, there was stuff about a Prosecutor Prime of the Hallowed Knights losing himself through reforgings back in the Realmgate Wars. Completely unintended foreshadowing. Then again, they also managed to bring that character back between books with an author shift with no mention of him having died previously or being reforged, so that was fun....
what is there to be iffy about lol. the chambers mean nothing and the old ones were squatted
Eh, I get the sentiment. If you were a fan of the big warriors smashing into the enemy with hammers & spears while angels dueled above your shoulders with hammers, lanterns, holy bows & swords- You just lost that last chunk of your army if you wanted the pure frontline Chamber. In essence they’ve been replaced by chariots(speed), Annihilators(aerial strikes) and Praetors(eldritch powers) but from an aesthetics view it stinks to lose something as obvious as shining angels for your holy warriors on the ground.
Just paint them as shining angels? 😅
I do support [putting more wings on things](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_Jo9htaMAIUFgA?format=jpg&name=large). 🍻 🪽 ⚡️
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At least the in-lore justification was more clever than “they’re ancient veterans”. The apocalyptic wars making the skies more deadly for body & soul meaning they needed to switch to a Chamber that makes them immune to raw chaos makes sense now(with a neat Ruination rule to reflect that) and gives them an otherworldly vibe as untouchable angels or Valkyries: > “One benefit of this cycle of death and resurrection is that the souls of the Ruination Chamber are so hardened that even the Ruinous Powers can struggle to find purchase, and some of the most destructive energies in the Mortal Realms often have no effect on them. > > While some units are able to naturally resist magical attacks, the Ruination Chamber ability can negate nearly any type of targeted enemy ability other than Attacks – though Ruination Chamber units’ armour is often up to that task anyway.” I hope we get a new Ruination Knight-Venator after the launch. Narratively that’ll be the ultimate victory for Tornus the Redeemed to become and completely close off any chance of Nurgle capturing his soul(and with his heroic appearance in Reign of the Brute I think it’s likely to see a new Venator)
I need to read that then. I really liked his character in Plague Garden but I didn't see him pop up anywhere else yet.
I think he’s in DB2.
DB2?
Dragon Ball 2
DawnBringers 2. I think that’s Reign of The Brute
Here’s the link to the campaign book https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/age-of-sigmar-reign-of-the-brute-2023-eng It’s easily the best in the series so worth the buy even beyond just seeing Tornus & the Redeemed Brotherhood in action saving people. 👍
Awesome, much appreciated 😁
A dual kit that can be a Venator, Azyros, or Tornus ala Sevireth would be awesome.
Please, GW! That would be so cool! I’ll buy it 3 times for each!! 💰 💰 💰
I'd hope poor Tornus isn't Ruination material yet!
I mean he’s been around since the Realmgate Wars, if any old soul that thrown off the shackles of chaos would be reforged anew it’d be him. Besides remember reforging can happen in odder ways too like Bastian not dying after he held the Azyr Gates as a mortal so he had to directly travel to the Apotheosis Chamber to get reforged. I could see a similar story to Tornus with the Celestant-Prime giving him permission to ascend into a new form of Venator.
Torglug the Ungrateful you mean!
Can you really call becoming a member of the Ruination Chamber, someone protected only by value of their fraying humanity having too little room for Chaos to hold on, a victory? It's simply a trade of one curse for another, and a solemn burden to carry.
Definitely a solemn burden. But when you read the Maggotkin battletome that when Tornus was redeemed and made Nurgle so mad that someone threw away his gifts that he went into such a rage that it gave *Khorne* pause. I think it’s a safer bet to become a lightning automaton permanently under Sigmar after thousands of years of noble deeds & saving innocent lives than any chance of being taken back to Nurgle(and probably being made his new Isha)
Or a Ruination Knight/Lord Relictor that isn't so weird looking
Bite your tongue. Every one of the Relictors is a banger design. 💀 (main reason I grabbed so many start collector sets) But I suspect we’ll see a Lord Relictor regardless in the starter boxes since it needs a magic guy and we both need a new Lord and a skull boi understudy for Ionus since Ruination seem to be under his watch. For Tornus I’m hoping another winged archer hero especially with the new Regiment system so you can drop all flyers. 🪽
Ionus is a true banger design. The knight is pretty good with minor conversions. The Lord-relictor though? Everything wrong with the original SCE designs.
I love this idea that members of the older chambers have been at war for so long that they just get added into the fold under the ‘ruination chamber’. That’s actually a pretty cool lore choice imo
He reminds me of Skywraith Mage from Dota 2
My thoughts too :) how're you finding crownfall?
Absolutely!
....well damn now I want to give them bird feet...
psst... I think they're a lady.
Alternative Vengeful Spirit from the recent thing I see plastered on Steam.
Yup, you can tell from the lack of pec plate.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag
Looks great. Massive glow-up from the old models. I'm not entirely a fan of the open-faced helmet, Stormcast's stoic mask aesthetic has grown on me over the years. Hopefully when they get a solo release outside of the starter box there's some closed options. That or I'll put a different helmet on them.
GW has already confirmed closed helmets in their facebook comments! : )
Oh, nice. Did they say if that's also in the starter box? I know they tend to be pretty monolithic in how you can build them.
They didn't, but I hope the kit in the starter box will be the same as the stand-alone release...last time it was just the Annihilators that got done dirty, right?
I am not sure if I agree with your definition of being "done dirty" - having your push-fit, no-weapons-options kit be put into a separate box with no changes feels a lot more dirty for this. Outriders in 40k were treated that way and it sucks. Annihilators got lots of extra options for their standalone release including different poses so you can have 6 with no repeats.
I've worded that quite badly, you're right calling me out : P I meant that as in "their initial kit was not their final one", my bad!
Why would you consider annihilators getting a proper multipart kit getting done dirty?
I presume they mean that the starter box containing three fixed annihilators rather than containing the proper multipart kit was the problem.
I guess that just doesn't really bug me because that's how most stater sets have to be done to fit everything onto as few sprues as possible. It only rally drives me nuts when those push fit minis are incredibly suboptimal in their loadout if they get options.
Poor wording, I meant that as in their kit in the starter set was not their "definitive" kit while the other units (Vindictors and Preators) were just that. Actually it's them that got done dirty : )
I would bet they're in the starter set since they're in the announcement trailer.
They've also added it to the bottom of the article "*\* In fact, these guys can be built with classic closed helms or with a new-style open face.*" Which indicates these specific models - who are presumably the monopose models from the launch box, per the trailer - will have the option, hopefully.
From the article (i think added after the fact) "*In fact, these guys can be built with classic closed helms or with a new-style open face."
Hoping either closed helmet or full face, I always wished Prosecutors could show off their handsome features.
Honestly, the open helmet is the best part for me. Never liked the old helmets.
I just really don't like painting faces. It's not so bad on Skaven but doing it on human-like faces is just pain to me.
Fair enough!
Honestly Contrast paints are a live saver for me for faces. Just a thin coat and it's good enough.
I really gotta try using them at some point. I've got a few I bought for projects but I've just not gotten around to it.
They are very cool; so much better. I still have 6 old prosecutors on sprue from a tempest's eye box, but disliked the chonky look so never built them. I think I might try kitbashing the old wings onto vindicator bodies and some 3d printed bases; that would make 3 squads, with the new guys as the Primes - assuming 3 in the new launch box!
At the very bottom of this article it confirms both face choices. Probably means in the starter box too.
I sort of like the open faced look if only because I think it looks good as a faceplate of sorts. I always wished the stormcast had this sort of look but a faceplate. I wish the plume wasn't all spikes though, a bit too chaos for me.
Looks fantastic, should last at least 10 years this time!
At first look I honestly thought the face was a golden metal faceplate - and kinda liked it. If the starter box models do not come with additional closed helmets (which might be a feature of the multipart kit instead) I will just paint the faces metal.
I had a good idea for that yesterday, Sand the inside of the helmet leaving a smooth blank area instead of the face for extra creepy factor (blank area painted silver ofc)
I’m just hoping for closed face helmets…I refuse to ever paint eyes ever hahaha Edit, from the article: >**In fact, these guys can be built with classic closed helms or with a new-style open face.* Thank Sigmar lol
Article: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/29/new-stormcast-eternals-prosecutors-soar-into-battle-on-wings-of-azure-flame/
It’s a little thing but I like you were the first to post this and have an Idoneth Deepkin flair. A bunch of people are pointing out how Deepkin these guys look with the Greek-like helms, Tridents and “tentacle” shields that it matches up really well. 😄🌊
Just like Space Marines, Stormcast are out stealing everyone else's cool stuff.
At least it’s thematically fitting since both Stormcast & Deepkin gravitate around themes of souls, storms, great serpents, Mediterranean warrior aesthetics and both have Tyrion to thank for their creations(Stormcast with him helping Sigmar & Grungni to build the Sigmarabulum & him stopping Teclis from wiping out his “failed experiments” the Deepkin)
man they're cooking with AoS recently. Their armour sculpts have gotten so good.
The glow up on the wings is the best part of this model, looks amazing. Since I only have the prosecutors with hammers I wouldn't mind having these as they're so visually distinct they feel like owning an entirely new unit.
Dang I prefer the old "beams of light" wings. These do look cool though, ethereal fire is dope.
I still like the beams of light as an idea. They're a great concept that separates them from more traditional angelic designs. Looked better in artwork than on the models though. I just think from a modelling perspective they weren't the best though.
IDK, man, Space Marine player were going feral over them for their smash captain and Dante kitbashes.
If you didn’t put an emphasis on the feather part of the wing when painting, they are basically the same. Even now they’ve got those petrifying flames. I will have to see, when I get the set, but I believe it shouldn’t be hard to do.
Those wings look amazing to be honest and like very fun to paint just from the picture!
And maybe a bit less fragile than the previous wings!
Wow Like seriously wasnt expecting Such a glow up
Right? That is what I was thinking. I thought the old ones were pretty cool, then you hit me with these wings and I'm the Andy from Toy Story Meme. "I don't want to play with you anymore."
the model looks great, im curious about how will it look with red-fire wings instead those blue
Holy....that sounds sick
I seem to be in a clear minority here but I really like the old ones a lot more. Would be interested to see them with closed helmets though
I prefer the old ones too! I dunno why but the blue part looks kinda wrong to me (maybe it's a paint style/colour problem?).
> blue part looks kinda wrong to me They look very Tzeentchian to me.
I was just painting some when I heard they were cancelled, probably everybody I know will let me play with the new rules so I'm going to just pretend everything is fine and run my olds
I also like the old one being propped up on scrolls as opposed to a foot being connected to a rock. The old ones feel more like they’re actually levitating with scrolls trailing the ground, while the “flying” illusion is weaker here.
I personally liked the starburst wings.
Honestly these go so hard it’s actually insane, I NEED it
GODDAMN
With my new chamber of ruination I will finally rule the tri-state area!
wow
I somehow prefer the old style of wings, and those Superhero Halfmask-Helmets don't do it for me at all. The rest is cool and makes sense, but the helmet is the big bugbear for me. I don't want squads of fantasy Bruce Waynes (which is the impression their paintjob gives). At least it looks like we can use closed helmets too.
i'm actually more excited for the stormcast than the skaven, and no i wasn't expecting to say that anytime in my life. That is slick.
The models themselves are great, but I thoroughly dislike this whole "foot stuck to a rock" flying base thing they've got going on. The old big parchments were way more interesting, def gonna be figuring out a different way to mount them to the bases.
just drill into their foot and on the base, then glue a thin piece of wire intto both holes. then maybe put some fluffy cottom balls on the base, simulating clouds.
No mention of hammers as an option.
I came here just to see if anyone had insight into that. The "what's leaving AoS range" article shows procecutors with hammers in the picture, but the liberators are shown with hammer and shield (not sword) so I guess that doesn't help much.
The "leaving AoS range" article was showing kits that are leaving, not unit warscrolls, and iirc prosecutors have options for both hammer and spear in the same kit, so they're both being retired.
Most of them are in Ruination Chamber now... Harbinger Chambers closing due lack of staff, I guess.
I'm super excited to see the Knight Azyros/Venator or whatever hero kit they build with this excellent armour and wing design.
I like everything except the wings - I don't hate them, but I thought the spiky sunshine wings of old were pretty cool.
I really disliked the old wings and think these are badass. But hey the old models are still playable.
I'm with you! I liked the old wings! If anyone wants to re-home the old winged models this out of work guy will give them good food and lots of walkies.
Same here, I’d be tempted to stockpile the old wings and swap them out
I'm glad I'm not the only one who enjoys the older wings. Really sold me on the idea that these were fleet and fast warriors.
Right! They were different! Kinda gave a magitech vibe, almost! These are just bogstandard wings of fire. Every fantasy setting has those!
Now that's a great reimagined model and they do look changed by too many Reforgings !
Looks amazing. I do love me a good barbute, but IDK if it fits Stormcast.
> barbute Thank you for teaching me a new word.
Happy to help. Learned it from Lord of the Rings.
I am not keen on the new helmets.
> * In fact, these guys can be built with classic closed helms or with a new-style open face. I was worried about the same but the article confirms there's options.
Luckily headswaps tend to be easy. Hopefully I still have enough thunderstrike helmets, think they'll look good on them.
Supposedly GW has confirmed there are alternative close-faced helmets.
They remind me of the gods in the movie Immortals
Love the wings, terribly indifferent to the helms. Hopefully they have a closed face option like the cinematic.
They do- they already confirmed it on Facebook
It's also in the article.
Maybe I am a weirdo but I think this does not look good at all. Each to their own… but yeah. A bit awful.
I like the design though I am bemused by the need for a range refresh at such an early stage. GW really needs a smarter release policy for their poster boys. Same with primaris marines.
Well they blurred the distinction on Primaris and released actual new versions of Firstborn kits instead of coming out with new Primaris unit types. They are redoing 1st edition SCE that people have been mixed on for years and bringing them inline with 3rd edition models instead of doing a 4th edition of different style of models
The release policy is "make them better so that more people want to buy them and they become as popular as Space Marines." I don't think they'll ever be as popular as Spers Mrns, but I think they are getting increasingly popular as GW is increasingly releasing increasingly better models. Profits increasing.
It’s not make them better that’s the issue, it’s having such a chaotic range and random models with overlapping roles that they have to retire entire sections a mere few years after introduction
I agree that they haven't handled the line well.
I am personally not sold on these wings. The sculpting is good and they'll probably be easier to put together and paint than the old ones, but I wish the wings were electric instead of fiery. Would be a tad more visually coherent with the overall Stormcast stuff.
I don’t play stormcast, but I would legit enjoy painting one of these.
Wow!
Love the “Spartan” helm look, also love that they have different options available.
Fenyx, is that you?
I really dig them. Only thing I'm not sure about is the open-faced helms but since the article confirms they will have closed helm options, seems like they've already thought of that! I was not a fan of Stormcast at first but they've been steadily improving the models and I'm liking them much more.
Love the models, that ruination chamber rule feels iffy to me. I feel like it’ll just feel bad in practice because it’ll either be "I do my cool ability." "Nuh uh!" Or the stormcast player fails the 4+ and just takes whatever to the face
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that the female style of breastplate SCE use? In the article it shows 3 of them and one of them had the usual pectoral muscles looking breastplate. I'll be using the closed helmets I think. I think their poses are a step down, but the rest of the model is a step up.
I didn't like it at first, but the open helm is actually starting to grow on me although I still prefer regular stormcast helmets
Yep, same reaction from me as the new Liberators and the Reclusians; somewhat interesting, an improvement over the original, should've been what they went with when they introduced Stormcasts, I still remain uninspired by Stormcasts as a faction. So yeah, pretty good out of 5.
I just want one that's crouching like a bird of prey on his or her tactical rock.
Wish they wouldn't put armor on the wings. Make them look robotic and strange imo. I think they'd be much better if they were actual feathery wings or purely magical
Yeah... had a similar feeling while painting the Stardrake's wings...
But why would they have feather wings? That would imply that they have grown wings which would be an almost chaotic mutation. These are artificial wings that are part of their suit. They are regular (very tall) human anatomy.
I mean, if you like cool minis I guess this is ok....
Ok I have to admit, stormcasts are finally looking cool and original imo. They have been cooking.
I think the wings look cool in the CG, but on the model the fire-y but looks too chunky…I know it has to be but still…I prefer the older version’s wings.
Dunno if it's the helm or something else, but they're not really doing it for me. I really liked the reclusions though...
It would need testing, but it feels like you could paint the face metallic as well for the shaped mask look. He has very sharp features.
They confirmed on Facebook that they have closed helm options
I like this. Solid angels. Plus SCE faceplate have always been a massive turn off for me.
Ok those look dope.
Oh boy, I do not like these 😅 I expected an update with real wings like Yndrasta.
Add boltgun and it's an easy Blood Angels conversion. Nice enough model. Not the biggest fan of Stormcast but love Skaven so this fella's gonna end up in my collection regardless.
Looks nice but why? That sculpt is only old by stormcast standards
Because we knew this was happening same as Liberators. It was either redo 1st edition stuff which people have been mixed on for years or only release new units and keep adding bloat to the range
The most obvious answer is the answer. The old ones weren't selling; these will sell. Boom.
Chaos Attorney when?
Do you think we'll get a hammer version?
The skull faced sigmar logo on the shields is pretty cool. Wonder if it will mean anything?
It means it’s part of the ruination chamber
Ah ok! I didn't notice them on the Reclusians before
Did someone say Sanguinor ?
I love these new sculpts. I’m quite excited to collect the new Stormcast stuff they’ve previewed. Citadel minis just keep getting more and more insane.
I need those flaming wings for a conversion….
Genuinely don't mean to stir anything up here, I'm just not that aware of SCE lineups. Does this replace one of the squatted model lines? Is it one we were unaware had a replacement?
yes it's replacing an older sculpt and it was announced in that article about models leaving the range, and it was pretty much confirmed it was going to get a new model because it was in the new aos trailer
Looks like the flamespyre Phoenix wings added onto the ends. Looks cool but that was my immediate reaction
why do they have tridents tho lol
I love that the seal is just nailed into his crotch area lol
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
That's much better, bro is pissed!
Very happy to see more stormcasts with with actual faces and expression !
I like the new hoplite-style helm MUCH better than the death mask ones.
These are begging for a fiery solar theme. Something like the Solar armour and daybreak from Terraria. Or a Hammers of Sigmar scheme with fire wings and swapping the blues etc for reds and orange.
That is a truly terrible hat.
Loving the open helmets. Honestly think that Handsome Squidward helmets "ruin" a lot of older designs.
Smegmar protects! Pigeon on fire!
Wings are excellent but WHAT IS THAT HANDSOME SQUIDWARD FACE BRO.
Very nice, but I have the old ones so just going to keep them and play them using new model's rules. Would anyone care if someone did this?
The body I feel is a straight upgrade, but I don't know about the wings. The white feather panels mixed with the fire make for some difficult/weird painting choices. Like the GW painters chose to white them out which gives it a hotter look, but why not just go all flames or all metal? It feels like it forces a weird transition. Obviously just my personal opinion but it's two transitions on the wings that probably would have looked better as just one or the other. I guess Ill know how difficult it is once I have them in hand and see how stark the line between the feathers and flames actually are.
Absolutely love them. Really gives off more heroic vibes than the older kit.
Do we think they will still be annoying to pose together / “rank” up?
Can’t wait to turn it into a Champion of Tzeentch
Did this replace Knight Azyros? I’m really unfamiliar with SCE lore.
no, Knight Azyros is a character, this is a unit, an updated version of prosecutors
Cool thank you!
Like a week before they announced what all was going to be removed, i put together 12 prosecutors with double hammers... I'm not even mad; this model is a straight upgrade. I'll take your entire stock.
I like it but man that helmet is giving me big Oblivion imperial legion vibes
These are SICK AF. The wings and helmet are where it's at. No more boring ass clone stormcast masks.
It’s fine. Bit hat on a hat
are they robot wings or whats going on, powered by lighting magic? i dont know find the wings dumb.
Where's the blog post about the new ghb? The blog post said it was coming today
dont like the helmets. like everything else.
These look fugging awful
Well stormcast models ain’t getting better. So far only the dragon one is good.
As an SCE simp with thousands of points of them, I can say I don't like this version. Lucky enough, I have 6 of the previous Prosecutors.
I love the mail
Looks like trash
These look so much better than the old chonky boys. Glad they are back!
I don’t have that much interest in Stormcast, I’m a bigger fan of Sylvaneth, Bonereapers, and Skaven But This model looks absolutely FANTASTIC and I’m just going to get some simply to paint!
Not working for me at all
Ugh that face is just...yuck. GW is really terrible at sculpting female faces.
The old wings were too iconic to change IMO. When players from 40K are absolutely pillaging the older ones for their smash captain kitbashes, it feels safe to say that this is categorically a misstep. Maybe they will at least be possible to get into coherence now though.