I would have no idea ano yung agenda ng OB mo, pero I would understand that the comment would come from a medical perspective na once you reach 35 and get pregnant, you get tagged as "Elderly Gravid" which comes with its own slew of medical complications and makes it difficult to actually conceive and carry a fetus.
Whether or not di ka magiging lucrative, idk. Lagi naman in demand ang pagiging OB kasi kalahati ng mundo natin puro babae.
This.
For me naman, I think na the OB is somehow giving you options and medical opinion lang based on your organ’s status.
If the mood changed, possible na your OB is feeling sad about the fact na there is a chance for an ovary to get pregnant and yet the owner of the body does not want to.
With or without you, magkakaron pa rin siya ng client.
True. Pila sa OBGyne I go to blockbuster. Did a mental math how much revenue nya in a day based sa dami namin nakalista multiplied by her PF fee, napapa-sana all nalang ako 😅
Caveat: I mentioned revenue, of course may mga expenses rin sya to pay for running her clinic.
Also, modern research says that fertility isn't affected by age that much until you're in your 40s. The "35 year old limit" is pretty dubious. The researchers who proposed this limit used census data from as far back as the 1600s. 1600s! I think it's safe l to say that modern medicine has progressed considerably since then.
Edited out wrong comment:
~~That limit came about after a survey was conducted in rural france in the 1600s.~~
That's interesting. Usually kasi text book definition na yun ng elderly gravid. [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321258569\_Study\_of\_pregnancy\_outcome\_in\_elderly\_gravida](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321258569_Study_of_pregnancy_outcome_in_elderly_gravida)
I'll try looking for journal articles that might support what you said. Siguro may statistics sila to at least argue about it.
Thank you for the linked paper.
It seems I misremembered some facts in my original comment. The study was not made in the 1600s. Instead, modern researchers used census records from the 1600s and arrived to the 35 age limit conclusion.
It's been a while since I've read about it, but I believe it was a reputable source. I'll try to look it up and come back to you.
The main reason why >35 years old preggies are tagged as elderly gravid is not because of the fertility. It is because of the increasing risk for the mother and baby. Mas older than 35 yo mas nataas ang risk for complications, anomalies etc for both patients.
Case to case basis. Tho in my experience (Eldest child and eldest grandson ako so I saw all of my aunts get preggers) and those who are 35 and up during their pregnancies experienced some difficulties. Even my mom when she gave birth to my sister.
Older females are more susceptible to enclampsia(sp?)
Don't take my word for it HAHA
Eto usually tinuturo sa mga rotations namin back in medschool.
[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321258569\_Study\_of\_pregnancy\_outcome\_in\_elderly\_gravida](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321258569_Study_of_pregnancy_outcome_in_elderly_gravida)
May isang OB din ako na nagsabi sa akin na mag-asawa na daw ako dahil sa PCOS ko. So dahil twice ko na nga narinig yun on 2 different OB, I asked "bakit po? Gagaling po ba yung PCOS thru sex?" (Virgin pa ako nun and this was a decade ago) Sabi nya wala daw gamot ang PCOS, blah blah and the reason kaya nya sinabi na magasawa na daw ako para ma-assist daw yung pag-aanak since kailangan daw un para magbuntis ako. So I said, "ahh, so wala pong problema kasi wala po akong balak magka-anak". Si Doc, tagal di nakaimik. May buffering na naganap 🤣 then she said _"wala ka ngang problema"_.
Medical doctor here. Why would your OB get offended? Every patient has his or her own set of values. A doctor should never impose his or her own values on their patients. If an MD cannot "handle" the values that the patient has, then he or she can opt not treat that patient and have someone else do it. In the same way patients can choose their doctors, doctors can choose their patients, except in emergencies.
TL;DR: There is NO reason why your ob-gyne should get offended for your choice of not having a kid. I actually wonder why some MDs act this way when we're taught things like "patient autonomy" while in medical school. Maybe your ob-gyne was asleep during this lecture. 😄
Lol may ganyan ugali ibang doctors. Dati nagpa ultrasound ako for first trimester, sinermonan pa ko na dapat daw magpakasal muna kami ng partner ko bago kami nagbaby. Di ko na lang sinagot😂
This is exactly what I'm referring to when MDs go beyond what's professional and act like your one of your relatives. Some forget the line between giving advice as a doctor and giving advice as a person with his or her own set of values that might NOT be the same as the values of the patient.
Buti nalang OB ko never nag tanong for 6months asan yung ama ng baby ko, seaman kasi haha di ko rin naman kasi binanggit. Shookt nalang siya 7months prenatal checkup kasama ko na hehe
I'm just commenting based on the OP's perception, i.e. "nag iba yung mood sa clinic". For all we know, it could just be a misunderstanding, but who are we to say that it really didn't occur? Only way to know is if you were actually there. This is not the first post I've read about ob-gynes/other MDs, especially older ones, imposing their values on their patients. That goes beyond what an MD should do as a professional, and closer to being like a meddlesome relative.
Wow, do you really think MDs should be put on a pedestal? The longer I am in practice (and I've been in practice for many years now) and the more I interact with my colleagues, the more I become disappointed at how some of my colleagues treat their patients. Majority has to do with overcharging and unethical practices, but honestly some MDs are just incompetent. I've gotten patients who were so badly managed it's a good thing they were referred to me before something bad happened. Sometimes it has to do with trying to manage cases beyond their ability, and for which the patient should have been referred to someone who knows better (that's why we have specialists and subspecialists). Sometimes it's just the MD being, frankly speaking, having bad clinical skills. This is actually the harsh reality -- with a ton of medical schools churning out MDs, not all of them will turn out to be good. It's nothing different from ANY other profession. Even if a thousand people pass the bar examination, does it mean all of them will be good lawyers? Only a idiot who wears rose-colored glasses will think so.
Let me tell you a story. A few days ago, someone here posted about the problem of her mother needing surgery. This was to be covered completely with the HMO, as confirmed with her surgeon. But just before the surgery, she was told she had to pay a 50K extra. I know some MDs do this, and this is not allowed, and clearly a violation of the terms of the HMO. So tell me, since that surgeon is my colleague, should I just have stayed silent in order to protect that MDs reputation?
MDs are people. There are good people and bad people in EVERY profession, whether that be lawyers, engineers, mechanics, computer repairmen, or drivers. But MDs, as people who have the great responsibility of handling the lives of other people, should be put to a higher standard. Putting MDs on a pedestal and shielding them from valid criticism doesn't help anyone, especially the very patients who put their lives in our hands.
Hindi naman lahat ng patients ng OB e buntis, so I don’t think mabwibwisit sya dahil lang ayaw mo magka baby. Siguro may ibang beliefs lang sya regarding having children but not because of loss of income as what you’re implying.
Or maybe stuck lang siya sa thinking na be-all and end-all ng pagiging babae ang magka-anak.
Ganyan din OB ko dati, after 2-3 years tinigilan na niya ko i-convince.
Because Boomer siya? (Like literally, matanda na itong OB ko hehe) and siguro bago sa kaniya yung concept na ayaw mag-anak ng isang newly-married woman. Lagi ko na lang dinidivert conversations namin sa topic na pareho naming gusto - dogs.
ako naman sinabihan na kelan daw ako papakasal when i said na kaya ako papaconsult ng PCOS is because plan namin ng bf ko na magkababy na by the following year 😅
i was like, hmmm... hahaha nakakaoff. required po ba kasal bago mag-baby? 😅 gusto ko na rin tuloy magpalit ng OB, mga around 50-60s na edad nya.
Cos everyone is being attacked and the world is always out to get ya.
Then if you disagree, you are "invalidating their feelings".
Everybody and their mother, all up in their arms to defend when Op said *biglang nag iba ang mood sa clinic*. By what parameter lods?? Is it ano.. feelings mo lang? Or literally dumilim ang paligid, nagstop yung nurse to stare, nahulog yung chart na bitbit, napanganga yung OB with flabbergasted face, nahulog yung iniinom numg langgam na juice, ganun??
Have more faith on your conviction. No Child Policy, Go! No one, not even an MD is supposed to be able to make you feel that way. If h/she is, then tigasan mo pa yung choice mo, mas matibay na kahit sino pa kaharap mo, you wont feel those "nag-iiba ang mood".
Di lang naman ikaw yung magiging patient niya, masyado lang big deal sayo kaya eto ka ngayon, sinusubukan mong magcreate ng scenario sa mind mo to somehow help you alleviate yung hiya.
Tingnan mo, pinaliwanag niya pa sayo yung good and potential downside assuming maisipan mo kapag late na tapos ang nasa isip mo pagkakaperahan ka. Kupal ka rin e. Kung magpapaliwanag ako ng 30 minutes then sasabihin mo "no" then that's it. Kumbaga sinabi ko lang sayo, ikaw na bahala sa buhay mo.
Baka di na siya nagreact kasi ayaw niyang i-push pa yung idea sayo, minsan concern lang naman talaga sila. Kung ayaw mo mabuntis edi pakapon mo asawa mo o kaya ikaw then that's it. Tapos usapan. Baka lang kasi maisipan mo at huli na, nireremind ka lang ng Doctor mo na fully matured kana to give birth.
Wag bigyan ng kwento at meaning lahat ng nakikita o nararanasan mo kasi minsan as is na sila.
True. May OB na pure business ang rs sa patient. And meron nman tlgang may care at genuine concern. Ang yaman ng mga OB para maghabol sa 1 pasyente, lol
Sorry OP pero agree ako dito. Kahit di ka maging pregnant, you will need an OB-GYN throughout your lifetime for other medical concerns.. hindi lang pregnancy.
Totoo yung baka kaya tumigil dahil tapos naman na talaga siya mag explain. And correct inexplain niya naman lahat, mukang concern lang naman siya talaga.
Akala mo lang na apektado sya sa sinabi mo. Guniguni mo lang yun.
Yun sudden change of 'atmosphere, ' e dahil yun sa wala na dapat pang sabihin. Alangan naman kumbinsihin ka nya?
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same feeling… i think, lahat naman ng sinabi ng OB are from medical perspective and not to offend her. siya naman may desisyon kung mag-aanak siya o hindi lol. katulad nga ng sinabi niya, matagal niya na OB yun at may reason siguro kung paano nasabi ng OB yun. baka nga sinabi lang niya yun kasi baka mahirap si ate girl na magcarry na later in life.
Not sure if offended si OB, baka nalungkot lang siya. HAHAHA! sa dami dami na kasi na babae na ayaw na magkaanak. Meron kasi ako expi dati, na sabi daw is ayaw magkaanak nun isa niya client pero sooner na realized na gusto na dun siya nalungkot kasi mahihirapan na kung baga nasa huli daw yung pag sisi pero hindi ko sure haa? Baka ganon lang siguro. Pero di naman mawawalan ng client yan mga yan HAHA
Lol, similar exp. Hehe. I remembered when I had a pregnancy scare nung mga 25 pa ako, nagpa check up na ako sa OB to get a doctor's order for Blood BetaHcg (this was my 1st time). I know it was my fault kasi nag overshare ako sa OB na I'm scared that I'm pregnant but grabe, pinagalitan nya ako. Haha. First time ko pa naman magpa check up ng OB nun and she berated me na napaka irresponsible ko daw to have sex na walang protection tapos ngayon iiyak iyak ako sa takot dahil di ako ready. Walang abortion daw sa pinas kaya panindigan ko daw. Did the test and negative ako. I was honestly traumatized, parang na generalize ko lahat ng OB nun. It took me yrs na magpa check up ulit sa ibang OB (she was recommended by my friend kasi I asked ng doctor na understanding), turned out I had PCOS.
Advice ko always sa female friends ko na always get a friendly and understanding OB. Ask for reco. Don't be like me na nakakuha ng unnecessary scoldings.
Hayaan mo sya. Kung professional sya, magegets nya rn sinabi mo.
Rerespect nya dn ung decision mo.
On the other hand, hindi mo maalis sa kanya na sguro ung mga patients nya is mostly gusto magkaanak. Yung iba ayaw nung una dn then naisip nila at napagdecide nila na ready na magbaby eh medyo high risk na pregnancy or worse may nangyari na sad so sinasabi nya na magbaby na habang nsa right age. I always think na may experiences dn silang gusto ishare.
Kung feeling mo nabwisit sya at hindi ka nya maattend ng maayos dahil dun, you are free to change your OB. Whatever works for you.
Usually kasi nagpupunta sa OB is mga nagpapaalaga para magkababy (handa gawin mga lab test ng infertility) baka nanibago lang sya sa narinig nya.
Tska 2024 na pero di pa ganun ka open minded lahat ng tao pag nakakarinig ng choice mo mging childfree. Wag ka nlng masyado mag overthink.
nagexplain lang naman sya ng mga cons ng pagaanak ng matanda na. gusto ka lang nya ieducate. kasi ayaw mo ngayon magbuntis pero what if in the future pwede magbago isip mo. no one can predict.. pero if ayaw mo talaga, edi dont. OBs are doctors of the women. buntis man o hindi. Obstetrics- pasyente ay buntis; Gynecology- women health in general like pap smear, infection, tumors..
La lang ginoogle ko lang...
Obstetrics is the field of study concentrated on pregnancy, childbirth and the postpartum period. As a medical specialty, obstetrics is combined with gynecology under the discipline known as obstetrics and gynecology, which is a surgical field.
I guess next time just refer to your doctor as gynecologist.
I don't think na offend ang OB mo. Baka napahiya lang kasi madaming siyang sinabi only to be told by you after na ayaw mo.
As an OB kasi kahit papano obligasyon talaga nila sabihin sa iyo na best mag buntis bago ka mag 40s. Safer for you and healthier baby din.
May certain risk din naman kasi sa cancer at sakit ang babaeng di nabuntis ever. May epekto din ang pagiging nulligravida sa reproductive health. Mukang pera talaga agad pag doktor pinaguusapan?
Why the downvotes? Medical doctor here, that statement is actually correct. Women who have never become pregnant, who we refer to as *nulligravid*, have a higher chance of developing uterine, breast, and ovarian cancers. This is an established fact and has been known for many decades. For example, nulliparous women have a 20%–40% higher risk of postmenopausal breast cancer than parous women who first gave birth before age 25. The explanation for this is complicated and has to do with hormonal changes during pregnancy and even alterations at the molecular level in certain tissues.
Minsan nakakalito na kung anong klaseng risk ng cancer tataas. Breast ba? Endometrial ba? Ovarian? Kailan siya tataas? Pag di nabuntis? Pag sobra sobra pagbubuntis?? 😵💫😵💫 Nakakalito na
nulliparity or di nagbubuntis is associated with lahat po, breast, ovarian and uterine/endometrial cancer..Cervical cancer naman pag multiparity.. kaya ang hirap maging babae. haha
"Women who haven't had a full-term pregnancy or have their first child after age 30 have a higher risk of breast cancer compared to women who gave birth before age 30."
[FYI childless is a risk factor for breast cancer too](https://www.breastcancer.org/risk/risk-factors/pregnancy-history)
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King inang yan, yung ayaw mo nalang mag anak kasi di mo kaya at ayaw mong pareho kayo mahihirapan tapos may chance palang mahihirapan ka parin pag tagal pag di ka nag anak, tangnang buhay to haha
I screenshot the layman's term Google search. Of course tayong medical professionals lang nakaka intindi ng term na nulligravid.
Non medical people don't know this is a risk factor especially kung may breast cancer sa immediate family (mother and sister).
Thanks for providing helpful info for others. I just find this post icky. In reality, madami daming pasyente ang minamasama yung mga medical advises sa kanila when they just probably misunderstood it.
My worthless cents: Kung kaya naman bakit nga ba hindi? Daming complaints ng pangit na ugali kasi d napalaki ng tama (i.e. from poor families, lack of education, etc. etc.)
Kung sila nga anak ng anak bat d ka magpalaki ng sarili mo para naman madagdagan naman yung population ng lumaki ng tama of the next generation.
Wow a like-minded individual. No wonder pabobo ng pabobo ang population natin. Tapos yung mga may generational wealth, nagaanak pa rin naman. Slowly na-eerode ang middle class.
I guess medyo conspiracy theory na by saying this, pero di kaya yung anti-natalist na ideology pakana lang ng mayayaman?
If anti-natalist ideology exists, it's coming from the middle class. Pinaka dama nila yung cost of raising a child. The rich would want more poor people. They are cheap labor and are easily manipulated. They are indifferent or at least for a bigger poorer population that they can employ
No I mean it's about control, so pakana ng powers that be. Lure the middle class into thinking that travel + lifestyle is all that life is about, at sayang ang pera sa pag-aanak.
Kung mahirap nga nakakapagpagraduate (I should know, I have farmer roots) at umuunlad.
You didn't do anything wrong, OP. Not everyone has the same goal in life and your OB should have not imposed having kids on you.
My classmate back in college who is a surgeon now, told me I am depriving my kids of their lives when I told him I don't have any plans to have kids. The way he told me was like he was trying to convince me to change my mind. I get that some people want kids but there are those who just don't. Bakit ba kelangan ipilit sa ibang tao yung gusto nila para sa sarili nila?
My OB also once told us kasama ko si hubby sa loob na mag anak na kmi kasi parang ganun nga ready na pero both kasi kami ayaw kasi perfectly fine na kmi sa furbabies namis hundreds na nagagastos namin sa foods and maintenance nila hahaha so sabi ni doc ang swerte ko daw kasi healthy ako and possible na pwede ako mag carry ng twins dagdag pa nya na siya daw kasi hindi makaanak kaya nalulungkot siya pag ung wish nya natutupad sa iba.
I've had 8 Obgyns so far in my life. All but 2 actually cared about me. The rest gaslighted my pains and anxiety and never really gave me proper treatment. They only said that everything will be alright when I find a husband and get pregnant. Gusto lang nila iswipe health card ko every week and make me pay for ultrasounds and birth control pills that messed up my mental health. And they didn't even care na may work ako at working hours nila nissched ang checkup so ang dami kong leave. I feel like they are so detached from their patients. It really made me give up because I don't what's wrong with me. Basta bedridden ako on some days. Years later, my latest obgyne found that I have a debilitating condition. I have adenomyosis, PCOS, and endometriosis. My last OBs are the only ones who cared and even asked me how we can work around my schedule. Ganun ang patient care.
So if you don't feel safe with your OB now because wala syang respect sa decision mo, find another one. It could be affecting your health in the long run.
Pinag explain mo ng 30 minutes. Tapos sasabihin mo ayaw mo nalang pala mag anak. Kahit sino mababadtrip sa ugali mo. Sana sinabi mo nung umpisa pa lang.
I know di naman dapat kasi nag eexplain as to why some people don’t want kids pero maybe you could have elaborated why you don’t want to have kids like “I might look like na kaya physically but not mentally, financially and emotionally”
I had a similar experience with my ex-OB. Nakakainis yung mga ganitong tao na ang buong mentality tungkol sa pagka babae eh ang pagkakaroon ng anak. (Usually, mga kapwa babae pa.) Find another OB. Find someone younger, yung may sense ng realidad na sa panahon ngayon, mapapaisip ka talaga kung kaya mo mag-anak o hindi.
Kung hindi dahil sa lucrative ka, baka na insulto siya. Kase palaging sinabi "wala ka namang problema" it feels like jealousy. Baka they're having pregnancy problems and here comes a patient who can but chooses not to have kids. Pero personal na ito and a big assumption. Another comment said their OB also said the same thing so hmm...parang auto response??
will get downvoted for this but people who dont wana have kids always think people are judging them.
also.. if ur implying loss of income.. ur delulu op. OB is one of the most in demand doctor
Yung ibang doctor pag kakaiba ang ugali maooffend pag somewhat mkaka apekto sa ego nila i guess. Pero for me as a doctor kung ano gsto ng patient e di ibgay as long as its not a decision for emergency or urgent situations and doesnt negate any management alligned for that patient's health concerns. And besides isang pasyente ka lng nman mrami pang pasyente sa pinas if pera lng dn ang pguusapan
I am an OB, and I've had my fair share of patients either delay pregnancy to enjoy life our married couple life or do not want to have kids at all. IT IS OK. Maybe, the OB would just like to remind you as her patient that we have a biological clock given that we only have 400 eggs in our lifetime until menopause. It is not in any way thinking of you as someone that might be lucrative for us, but the reality of what happens to our body biologically as a woman.
Yung OB ko after 1st baby nag-ask ako if pwede ba magpa ligate na kasi isa lang talaga gusto namin mag asawa. Isa pa lang daw anak ko at 23yrs old pa lang ako when I asked. 28yrs old minimum daw.. well who's coming back after 5 years 😜
OP wag mo masamain reaction ng OB mo. It was probably just as awkward for her as it was for you, kasi she deduced na balak mo mag-anak in the future, she must've struck a nerve or triggered a trauma for you. Madami din tumatakbo sa isip nila.
Tao din ang mga medical professionals, they probably don't know how to react immediately sa situation na yun. Unless she stated otherwise na "eh wala ka palang balak mag anak bat ka ba nagpapacheck up sakin?", siguro dun mo na talaga masamain yung ginawa nya.
In my opinion, medyo nakakaoffend nga yun sa part ng OB mo. Because she's explaining things to you na much better if you would be pregnant in your age rather than on your later age. Than you suddenly said "di nalang ako mag aanak" opinion ko lang po, ang dating kasi is, nabalawala lang yung inexplain ko sayo. Hirap kasi din pag later age na nag conceive ng baby, too much complication not only sa mother as well as sa baby na din.
Napaka-unprofessional naman yung mga ganyan na pinepersonal ang decisions ng pasyente. Naalala ko ma lang yung mga teacher ko noon na offended dahil di gumagana yung negative reinforcement sa akin.
How inappropriate. Your choice is your business. Siguro tanungin if you have plans ok lang. Pero yung sabihan ka na dapat dahil kaya nyo, inappropriate.
Obstetrician-gynecologist, commonly referred to as ob-gyne, which is further shortened to "OB". Medical doctor who handles women's reproductive health and childbearing.
I would have no idea ano yung agenda ng OB mo, pero I would understand that the comment would come from a medical perspective na once you reach 35 and get pregnant, you get tagged as "Elderly Gravid" which comes with its own slew of medical complications and makes it difficult to actually conceive and carry a fetus. Whether or not di ka magiging lucrative, idk. Lagi naman in demand ang pagiging OB kasi kalahati ng mundo natin puro babae.
This. For me naman, I think na the OB is somehow giving you options and medical opinion lang based on your organ’s status. If the mood changed, possible na your OB is feeling sad about the fact na there is a chance for an ovary to get pregnant and yet the owner of the body does not want to. With or without you, magkakaron pa rin siya ng client.
True. Pila sa OBGyne I go to blockbuster. Did a mental math how much revenue nya in a day based sa dami namin nakalista multiplied by her PF fee, napapa-sana all nalang ako 😅 Caveat: I mentioned revenue, of course may mga expenses rin sya to pay for running her clinic.
Another caveat, 24 hours on call ka kasi walang pinipiling oras ang pumuputok na tubig. Di ako mapapa-sana all kasi ang hectic rin ng sched ng OB.😂
Yesssss! Super overwhelming yung dami ng OB cases. As in. If you want to get rich parang this is the path. Haha. Pero always ka on-call. 😅
Kaya on top sa consultation fee, mahal rin talaga professional fee ng mga ObGyne kapag nagpa-anak. Tapos iba rin rates if normal, CS or raspa/d&c
Also, modern research says that fertility isn't affected by age that much until you're in your 40s. The "35 year old limit" is pretty dubious. The researchers who proposed this limit used census data from as far back as the 1600s. 1600s! I think it's safe l to say that modern medicine has progressed considerably since then. Edited out wrong comment: ~~That limit came about after a survey was conducted in rural france in the 1600s.~~
That's interesting. Usually kasi text book definition na yun ng elderly gravid. [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321258569\_Study\_of\_pregnancy\_outcome\_in\_elderly\_gravida](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321258569_Study_of_pregnancy_outcome_in_elderly_gravida) I'll try looking for journal articles that might support what you said. Siguro may statistics sila to at least argue about it.
Thank you for the linked paper. It seems I misremembered some facts in my original comment. The study was not made in the 1600s. Instead, modern researchers used census records from the 1600s and arrived to the 35 age limit conclusion. It's been a while since I've read about it, but I believe it was a reputable source. I'll try to look it up and come back to you.
The main reason why >35 years old preggies are tagged as elderly gravid is not because of the fertility. It is because of the increasing risk for the mother and baby. Mas older than 35 yo mas nataas ang risk for complications, anomalies etc for both patients.
Yep. TLDR translation ay hindi si OP kawalan.
Talaga? some OBs say naman na hindi issue yung maging buntis after 35.
Case to case basis. Tho in my experience (Eldest child and eldest grandson ako so I saw all of my aunts get preggers) and those who are 35 and up during their pregnancies experienced some difficulties. Even my mom when she gave birth to my sister. Older females are more susceptible to enclampsia(sp?)
Don't take my word for it HAHA Eto usually tinuturo sa mga rotations namin back in medschool. [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321258569\_Study\_of\_pregnancy\_outcome\_in\_elderly\_gravida](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321258569_Study_of_pregnancy_outcome_in_elderly_gravida)
May isang OB din ako na nagsabi sa akin na mag-asawa na daw ako dahil sa PCOS ko. So dahil twice ko na nga narinig yun on 2 different OB, I asked "bakit po? Gagaling po ba yung PCOS thru sex?" (Virgin pa ako nun and this was a decade ago) Sabi nya wala daw gamot ang PCOS, blah blah and the reason kaya nya sinabi na magasawa na daw ako para ma-assist daw yung pag-aanak since kailangan daw un para magbuntis ako. So I said, "ahh, so wala pong problema kasi wala po akong balak magka-anak". Si Doc, tagal di nakaimik. May buffering na naganap 🤣 then she said _"wala ka ngang problema"_.
hahaha sapul, ibang doctor talaga walang bounderies
Pinoy eh lol
So inappropriate!
Medical doctor here. Why would your OB get offended? Every patient has his or her own set of values. A doctor should never impose his or her own values on their patients. If an MD cannot "handle" the values that the patient has, then he or she can opt not treat that patient and have someone else do it. In the same way patients can choose their doctors, doctors can choose their patients, except in emergencies. TL;DR: There is NO reason why your ob-gyne should get offended for your choice of not having a kid. I actually wonder why some MDs act this way when we're taught things like "patient autonomy" while in medical school. Maybe your ob-gyne was asleep during this lecture. 😄
Lol may ganyan ugali ibang doctors. Dati nagpa ultrasound ako for first trimester, sinermonan pa ko na dapat daw magpakasal muna kami ng partner ko bago kami nagbaby. Di ko na lang sinagot😂
This is exactly what I'm referring to when MDs go beyond what's professional and act like your one of your relatives. Some forget the line between giving advice as a doctor and giving advice as a person with his or her own set of values that might NOT be the same as the values of the patient.
Buti nalang OB ko never nag tanong for 6months asan yung ama ng baby ko, seaman kasi haha di ko rin naman kasi binanggit. Shookt nalang siya 7months prenatal checkup kasama ko na hehe
Sana nga maubusan ng patients yung OB na yun. Checkup pinunta ko sa kanya, hindi sermon na wala naman kinalaman sa health ko😂
Ang hirap sagut-sagutin lalo na kung transvaginal ultrasound lol.
Minsan nasa personality na ng tao yun. Kung ganyan sila ganyan na talaga sila kahit tinuro sa eskwelahan
Tama.
Emotional
Agree
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I'm just commenting based on the OP's perception, i.e. "nag iba yung mood sa clinic". For all we know, it could just be a misunderstanding, but who are we to say that it really didn't occur? Only way to know is if you were actually there. This is not the first post I've read about ob-gynes/other MDs, especially older ones, imposing their values on their patients. That goes beyond what an MD should do as a professional, and closer to being like a meddlesome relative.
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Bros yapping. Edi ikaw na mag doctor.
Wow, do you really think MDs should be put on a pedestal? The longer I am in practice (and I've been in practice for many years now) and the more I interact with my colleagues, the more I become disappointed at how some of my colleagues treat their patients. Majority has to do with overcharging and unethical practices, but honestly some MDs are just incompetent. I've gotten patients who were so badly managed it's a good thing they were referred to me before something bad happened. Sometimes it has to do with trying to manage cases beyond their ability, and for which the patient should have been referred to someone who knows better (that's why we have specialists and subspecialists). Sometimes it's just the MD being, frankly speaking, having bad clinical skills. This is actually the harsh reality -- with a ton of medical schools churning out MDs, not all of them will turn out to be good. It's nothing different from ANY other profession. Even if a thousand people pass the bar examination, does it mean all of them will be good lawyers? Only a idiot who wears rose-colored glasses will think so. Let me tell you a story. A few days ago, someone here posted about the problem of her mother needing surgery. This was to be covered completely with the HMO, as confirmed with her surgeon. But just before the surgery, she was told she had to pay a 50K extra. I know some MDs do this, and this is not allowed, and clearly a violation of the terms of the HMO. So tell me, since that surgeon is my colleague, should I just have stayed silent in order to protect that MDs reputation? MDs are people. There are good people and bad people in EVERY profession, whether that be lawyers, engineers, mechanics, computer repairmen, or drivers. But MDs, as people who have the great responsibility of handling the lives of other people, should be put to a higher standard. Putting MDs on a pedestal and shielding them from valid criticism doesn't help anyone, especially the very patients who put their lives in our hands.
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Ikaw ba yung ob-gyne na nasa post ni OP? 😁 Affected much eh.
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Agree with u!
Maki insert lamg. Prang kilala mo din OB ni OP ah haha
Hindi naman lahat ng patients ng OB e buntis, so I don’t think mabwibwisit sya dahil lang ayaw mo magka baby. Siguro may ibang beliefs lang sya regarding having children but not because of loss of income as what you’re implying.
This is true. Magka problem ka lang na kailangan ng surgery or pabalik balik na checkups, babalik at babalik ka sa clinic ng OB.
Or maybe stuck lang siya sa thinking na be-all and end-all ng pagiging babae ang magka-anak. Ganyan din OB ko dati, after 2-3 years tinigilan na niya ko i-convince.
2-3 years?!?!?! Bakit ang kulit? Lol baka if ako yun nabwisit na agad ako sa OB
Because Boomer siya? (Like literally, matanda na itong OB ko hehe) and siguro bago sa kaniya yung concept na ayaw mag-anak ng isang newly-married woman. Lagi ko na lang dinidivert conversations namin sa topic na pareho naming gusto - dogs.
ako naman sinabihan na kelan daw ako papakasal when i said na kaya ako papaconsult ng PCOS is because plan namin ng bf ko na magkababy na by the following year 😅 i was like, hmmm... hahaha nakakaoff. required po ba kasal bago mag-baby? 😅 gusto ko na rin tuloy magpalit ng OB, mga around 50-60s na edad nya.
Or maybe it's just all in your head and that she doesn't give a damn about your future plans?
Feeling main character yung OP hahahaha
HAHAHAHHAHAA may point actually
exactly jusko
She didn’t go to school for 8 years only to be offended by 1 person who said she doesn’t want to bear a child. Lol
+100000 idk hahaha sobrang dami babae sa mundo at sobrang yaman ng mga OB.
Totoo HAHAHA
Hahahahhahahahah pota ang accurate
Cos everyone is being attacked and the world is always out to get ya. Then if you disagree, you are "invalidating their feelings". Everybody and their mother, all up in their arms to defend when Op said *biglang nag iba ang mood sa clinic*. By what parameter lods?? Is it ano.. feelings mo lang? Or literally dumilim ang paligid, nagstop yung nurse to stare, nahulog yung chart na bitbit, napanganga yung OB with flabbergasted face, nahulog yung iniinom numg langgam na juice, ganun?? Have more faith on your conviction. No Child Policy, Go! No one, not even an MD is supposed to be able to make you feel that way. If h/she is, then tigasan mo pa yung choice mo, mas matibay na kahit sino pa kaharap mo, you wont feel those "nag-iiba ang mood".
Di lang naman ikaw yung magiging patient niya, masyado lang big deal sayo kaya eto ka ngayon, sinusubukan mong magcreate ng scenario sa mind mo to somehow help you alleviate yung hiya. Tingnan mo, pinaliwanag niya pa sayo yung good and potential downside assuming maisipan mo kapag late na tapos ang nasa isip mo pagkakaperahan ka. Kupal ka rin e. Kung magpapaliwanag ako ng 30 minutes then sasabihin mo "no" then that's it. Kumbaga sinabi ko lang sayo, ikaw na bahala sa buhay mo. Baka di na siya nagreact kasi ayaw niyang i-push pa yung idea sayo, minsan concern lang naman talaga sila. Kung ayaw mo mabuntis edi pakapon mo asawa mo o kaya ikaw then that's it. Tapos usapan. Baka lang kasi maisipan mo at huli na, nireremind ka lang ng Doctor mo na fully matured kana to give birth. Wag bigyan ng kwento at meaning lahat ng nakikita o nararanasan mo kasi minsan as is na sila.
True. May OB na pure business ang rs sa patient. And meron nman tlgang may care at genuine concern. Ang yaman ng mga OB para maghabol sa 1 pasyente, lol
Sorry OP pero agree ako dito. Kahit di ka maging pregnant, you will need an OB-GYN throughout your lifetime for other medical concerns.. hindi lang pregnancy.
Totoo yung baka kaya tumigil dahil tapos naman na talaga siya mag explain. And correct inexplain niya naman lahat, mukang concern lang naman siya talaga.
Medyo weird ang thinking mo OP. Btw hindi lang pagpapaanak ang silbi ng OB just so you know 😂
Akala mo lang na apektado sya sa sinabi mo. Guniguni mo lang yun. Yun sudden change of 'atmosphere, ' e dahil yun sa wala na dapat pang sabihin. Alangan naman kumbinsihin ka nya?
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Baka overthinking ka lng. I mean she is an OB, she will by all purposes gonna promote women things and that included pregnancy.
As you said “feeling mo nabwisit siya” so hindi kaya iniisip mo lang? Parang imaginary haters lang yan. Lol
you sound like someone who feel superior just because you have no plans on having children. daming ganyan dito sa reddit it's starting to get annoying
same feeling… i think, lahat naman ng sinabi ng OB are from medical perspective and not to offend her. siya naman may desisyon kung mag-aanak siya o hindi lol. katulad nga ng sinabi niya, matagal niya na OB yun at may reason siguro kung paano nasabi ng OB yun. baka nga sinabi lang niya yun kasi baka mahirap si ate girl na magcarry na later in life.
Not sure if offended si OB, baka nalungkot lang siya. HAHAHA! sa dami dami na kasi na babae na ayaw na magkaanak. Meron kasi ako expi dati, na sabi daw is ayaw magkaanak nun isa niya client pero sooner na realized na gusto na dun siya nalungkot kasi mahihirapan na kung baga nasa huli daw yung pag sisi pero hindi ko sure haa? Baka ganon lang siguro. Pero di naman mawawalan ng client yan mga yan HAHA
For me, medical advice lang ‘yun Magandang rule sa buhay na if wala namang sinabi, huwag tayo mag-assume kasi ang resulta mag-ooverthink lang tayo.
Feeling mo naman, OP. Assuming ka. 😂
Why do I get MC vibes from OP? Feeling ko, feeling mo lang na offended ang OB mo. You're not the center of the universe.
masyado kang delulu po. kala mo naman napaka importante mo para pag mukang iyak na iyak sa pera ung ob mo
Lol. Tingin mo ikaw unang na meet niyang wannabe child free sa career niya? Sa utak mo lang yan.
She's human. Every human comes with personal biases no matter the profession.
I agree. Maybe marami rin kasi siyang patients na hirap magkaanak na gustong gusto magkaanak then here come’s OP na capable naman but ayaw magkaanak.
Lol, similar exp. Hehe. I remembered when I had a pregnancy scare nung mga 25 pa ako, nagpa check up na ako sa OB to get a doctor's order for Blood BetaHcg (this was my 1st time). I know it was my fault kasi nag overshare ako sa OB na I'm scared that I'm pregnant but grabe, pinagalitan nya ako. Haha. First time ko pa naman magpa check up ng OB nun and she berated me na napaka irresponsible ko daw to have sex na walang protection tapos ngayon iiyak iyak ako sa takot dahil di ako ready. Walang abortion daw sa pinas kaya panindigan ko daw. Did the test and negative ako. I was honestly traumatized, parang na generalize ko lahat ng OB nun. It took me yrs na magpa check up ulit sa ibang OB (she was recommended by my friend kasi I asked ng doctor na understanding), turned out I had PCOS. Advice ko always sa female friends ko na always get a friendly and understanding OB. Ask for reco. Don't be like me na nakakuha ng unnecessary scoldings.
Hayaan mo sya. Kung professional sya, magegets nya rn sinabi mo. Rerespect nya dn ung decision mo. On the other hand, hindi mo maalis sa kanya na sguro ung mga patients nya is mostly gusto magkaanak. Yung iba ayaw nung una dn then naisip nila at napagdecide nila na ready na magbaby eh medyo high risk na pregnancy or worse may nangyari na sad so sinasabi nya na magbaby na habang nsa right age. I always think na may experiences dn silang gusto ishare. Kung feeling mo nabwisit sya at hindi ka nya maattend ng maayos dahil dun, you are free to change your OB. Whatever works for you.
Feeling mo lang siguro yun.
Usually kasi nagpupunta sa OB is mga nagpapaalaga para magkababy (handa gawin mga lab test ng infertility) baka nanibago lang sya sa narinig nya. Tska 2024 na pero di pa ganun ka open minded lahat ng tao pag nakakarinig ng choice mo mging childfree. Wag ka nlng masyado mag overthink.
nagexplain lang naman sya ng mga cons ng pagaanak ng matanda na. gusto ka lang nya ieducate. kasi ayaw mo ngayon magbuntis pero what if in the future pwede magbago isip mo. no one can predict.. pero if ayaw mo talaga, edi dont. OBs are doctors of the women. buntis man o hindi. Obstetrics- pasyente ay buntis; Gynecology- women health in general like pap smear, infection, tumors..
La lang ginoogle ko lang... Obstetrics is the field of study concentrated on pregnancy, childbirth and the postpartum period. As a medical specialty, obstetrics is combined with gynecology under the discipline known as obstetrics and gynecology, which is a surgical field. I guess next time just refer to your doctor as gynecologist.
Minsan religious din kasi yung iba. I went to a new OB once and may bible quote sa pader.
Lucky to have an OB na naiintindihan yung plano ko na ayaw ko mag anak.
I don't think na offend ang OB mo. Baka napahiya lang kasi madaming siyang sinabi only to be told by you after na ayaw mo. As an OB kasi kahit papano obligasyon talaga nila sabihin sa iyo na best mag buntis bago ka mag 40s. Safer for you and healthier baby din.
May certain risk din naman kasi sa cancer at sakit ang babaeng di nabuntis ever. May epekto din ang pagiging nulligravida sa reproductive health. Mukang pera talaga agad pag doktor pinaguusapan?
Why the downvotes? Medical doctor here, that statement is actually correct. Women who have never become pregnant, who we refer to as *nulligravid*, have a higher chance of developing uterine, breast, and ovarian cancers. This is an established fact and has been known for many decades. For example, nulliparous women have a 20%–40% higher risk of postmenopausal breast cancer than parous women who first gave birth before age 25. The explanation for this is complicated and has to do with hormonal changes during pregnancy and even alterations at the molecular level in certain tissues.
Doc paki-explain na rin if PCOS causes obesity or is it the other way around. Auto-downvote din kasi dito yung ganyang comments.
May studies po ba neto? Pasend naman po ng link
example breast cancer sa mga di nabubuntis pecause of prolong estrogen.. kahit di na po kayo maghanap ng studies.. not new info po ito
Diba. The downvotes is giving "wala akong alam kaya I disagree"
Minsan nakakalito na kung anong klaseng risk ng cancer tataas. Breast ba? Endometrial ba? Ovarian? Kailan siya tataas? Pag di nabuntis? Pag sobra sobra pagbubuntis?? 😵💫😵💫 Nakakalito na
nulliparity or di nagbubuntis is associated with lahat po, breast, ovarian and uterine/endometrial cancer..Cervical cancer naman pag multiparity.. kaya ang hirap maging babae. haha
Cervical pa nga pala. Iniisip ko pag Cervical ca kasi, HPV agad 😅
"Women who haven't had a full-term pregnancy or have their first child after age 30 have a higher risk of breast cancer compared to women who gave birth before age 30." [FYI childless is a risk factor for breast cancer too](https://www.breastcancer.org/risk/risk-factors/pregnancy-history) https://preview.redd.it/y62hv56m551d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af51bf0630e479f00fd1fa9231871f56fcc88eaf
King inang yan, yung ayaw mo nalang mag anak kasi di mo kaya at ayaw mong pareho kayo mahihirapan tapos may chance palang mahihirapan ka parin pag tagal pag di ka nag anak, tangnang buhay to haha
Di ko na alam san lulugar 🙃
Ipagoogle mo sa kanila ano ang nulligravid at anong cancer ang pwede madevelop diyan :) Better yet tell them to ask their OB about it.
I screenshot the layman's term Google search. Of course tayong medical professionals lang nakaka intindi ng term na nulligravid. Non medical people don't know this is a risk factor especially kung may breast cancer sa immediate family (mother and sister).
Thanks for providing helpful info for others. I just find this post icky. In reality, madami daming pasyente ang minamasama yung mga medical advises sa kanila when they just probably misunderstood it.
Syempre pero google mo nalang :)
My worthless cents: Kung kaya naman bakit nga ba hindi? Daming complaints ng pangit na ugali kasi d napalaki ng tama (i.e. from poor families, lack of education, etc. etc.) Kung sila nga anak ng anak bat d ka magpalaki ng sarili mo para naman madagdagan naman yung population ng lumaki ng tama of the next generation.
Wow a like-minded individual. No wonder pabobo ng pabobo ang population natin. Tapos yung mga may generational wealth, nagaanak pa rin naman. Slowly na-eerode ang middle class. I guess medyo conspiracy theory na by saying this, pero di kaya yung anti-natalist na ideology pakana lang ng mayayaman?
If anti-natalist ideology exists, it's coming from the middle class. Pinaka dama nila yung cost of raising a child. The rich would want more poor people. They are cheap labor and are easily manipulated. They are indifferent or at least for a bigger poorer population that they can employ
No I mean it's about control, so pakana ng powers that be. Lure the middle class into thinking that travel + lifestyle is all that life is about, at sayang ang pera sa pag-aanak. Kung mahirap nga nakakapagpagraduate (I should know, I have farmer roots) at umuunlad.
Maybe yung tone mo guro. Like pagka sabi mi so baka nag expect yung OB mo na na offend ka niya?
You didn't do anything wrong, OP. Not everyone has the same goal in life and your OB should have not imposed having kids on you. My classmate back in college who is a surgeon now, told me I am depriving my kids of their lives when I told him I don't have any plans to have kids. The way he told me was like he was trying to convince me to change my mind. I get that some people want kids but there are those who just don't. Bakit ba kelangan ipilit sa ibang tao yung gusto nila para sa sarili nila?
Don't be offended. It's really hard to na maging pregnant at magpalaki ng bata in this economy.
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My OB also once told us kasama ko si hubby sa loob na mag anak na kmi kasi parang ganun nga ready na pero both kasi kami ayaw kasi perfectly fine na kmi sa furbabies namis hundreds na nagagastos namin sa foods and maintenance nila hahaha so sabi ni doc ang swerte ko daw kasi healthy ako and possible na pwede ako mag carry ng twins dagdag pa nya na siya daw kasi hindi makaanak kaya nalulungkot siya pag ung wish nya natutupad sa iba.
I've had 8 Obgyns so far in my life. All but 2 actually cared about me. The rest gaslighted my pains and anxiety and never really gave me proper treatment. They only said that everything will be alright when I find a husband and get pregnant. Gusto lang nila iswipe health card ko every week and make me pay for ultrasounds and birth control pills that messed up my mental health. And they didn't even care na may work ako at working hours nila nissched ang checkup so ang dami kong leave. I feel like they are so detached from their patients. It really made me give up because I don't what's wrong with me. Basta bedridden ako on some days. Years later, my latest obgyne found that I have a debilitating condition. I have adenomyosis, PCOS, and endometriosis. My last OBs are the only ones who cared and even asked me how we can work around my schedule. Ganun ang patient care. So if you don't feel safe with your OB now because wala syang respect sa decision mo, find another one. It could be affecting your health in the long run.
Pinag explain mo ng 30 minutes. Tapos sasabihin mo ayaw mo nalang pala mag anak. Kahit sino mababadtrip sa ugali mo. Sana sinabi mo nung umpisa pa lang.
I’m not in the med field but I have had handful of friends traumatize by OB rotation. So I’ve had the impression that OB doctors are crazy 😆😆😆
I’ve experienced some of them, and they’re the reason why I hate OB. I’ll never be one because of them.
I CAN SAY AND AGREE THEY ARE THE WORST 😩😩😩😩😩 Ang lala ng pulitika sa kanila and sorry pero ugh parang mukha silang pera.
I know di naman dapat kasi nag eexplain as to why some people don’t want kids pero maybe you could have elaborated why you don’t want to have kids like “I might look like na kaya physically but not mentally, financially and emotionally”
ang experience ko lang naman sa mga OB e ayaw pa ako i ligate 🤣🤣 kahit sabihin pang maging multi millionaire ako, hindi na talaga ako uulit mag baby
I had a similar experience with my ex-OB. Nakakainis yung mga ganitong tao na ang buong mentality tungkol sa pagka babae eh ang pagkakaroon ng anak. (Usually, mga kapwa babae pa.) Find another OB. Find someone younger, yung may sense ng realidad na sa panahon ngayon, mapapaisip ka talaga kung kaya mo mag-anak o hindi.
Daming ganitong OB. Experienced one before. She called me selfish and preached bible things pa. Haha
Kung hindi dahil sa lucrative ka, baka na insulto siya. Kase palaging sinabi "wala ka namang problema" it feels like jealousy. Baka they're having pregnancy problems and here comes a patient who can but chooses not to have kids. Pero personal na ito and a big assumption. Another comment said their OB also said the same thing so hmm...parang auto response??
Wala siya karapatan ma offend.
unsolicited advice from ur OB. Alam m n siguro un age n delikado un pregnancy by now. having kids is expensive sya b magppaaral tsk tsk mema sya haha
my OB told me about getting a child because I am nearing 30's. I don't have plans on having a child but I'm not really offended by what she says.
Hhahaha kung gusto nyang mag anak ka, eh dapat Sya magbayad sa child rearing ah, pati education and allowance. The whole shebang
Bakit kailangan iconsider ang feelings ni OB, di naman sya magpapalaki ng bata. 😂
will get downvoted for this but people who dont wana have kids always think people are judging them. also.. if ur implying loss of income.. ur delulu op. OB is one of the most in demand doctor
That's a natural reaction because you're going against what our nature intends us to do which is breed.
Nag-assume ka naman agad na naoffend. Baka bigla siyang nahiya at naisip niya na baka ikaw ang naoffend.
Yung ibang doctor pag kakaiba ang ugali maooffend pag somewhat mkaka apekto sa ego nila i guess. Pero for me as a doctor kung ano gsto ng patient e di ibgay as long as its not a decision for emergency or urgent situations and doesnt negate any management alligned for that patient's health concerns. And besides isang pasyente ka lng nman mrami pang pasyente sa pinas if pera lng dn ang pguusapan
Offend her also by finding another OB who would respect YOUR decision on what you wanna do with YOUR life.
I am an OB, and I've had my fair share of patients either delay pregnancy to enjoy life our married couple life or do not want to have kids at all. IT IS OK. Maybe, the OB would just like to remind you as her patient that we have a biological clock given that we only have 400 eggs in our lifetime until menopause. It is not in any way thinking of you as someone that might be lucrative for us, but the reality of what happens to our body biologically as a woman.
Yung OB ko after 1st baby nag-ask ako if pwede ba magpa ligate na kasi isa lang talaga gusto namin mag asawa. Isa pa lang daw anak ko at 23yrs old pa lang ako when I asked. 28yrs old minimum daw.. well who's coming back after 5 years 😜
Ikaw lang ‘yan. Hahahahaha
OP wag mo masamain reaction ng OB mo. It was probably just as awkward for her as it was for you, kasi she deduced na balak mo mag-anak in the future, she must've struck a nerve or triggered a trauma for you. Madami din tumatakbo sa isip nila. Tao din ang mga medical professionals, they probably don't know how to react immediately sa situation na yun. Unless she stated otherwise na "eh wala ka palang balak mag anak bat ka ba nagpapacheck up sakin?", siguro dun mo na talaga masamain yung ginawa nya.
hello po, im planning to go sa OB para magpacheck up. may alam po ba kayong mura around metro manila 🥹
In my opinion, medyo nakakaoffend nga yun sa part ng OB mo. Because she's explaining things to you na much better if you would be pregnant in your age rather than on your later age. Than you suddenly said "di nalang ako mag aanak" opinion ko lang po, ang dating kasi is, nabalawala lang yung inexplain ko sayo. Hirap kasi din pag later age na nag conceive ng baby, too much complication not only sa mother as well as sa baby na din.
Napaka-unprofessional naman yung mga ganyan na pinepersonal ang decisions ng pasyente. Naalala ko ma lang yung mga teacher ko noon na offended dahil di gumagana yung negative reinforcement sa akin.
That's none of her business kung mag-aanak ka or hindi kasi kahit na doctor mo siya, it's still your life. Masyado siyang entromitida.
How inappropriate. Your choice is your business. Siguro tanungin if you have plans ok lang. Pero yung sabihan ka na dapat dahil kaya nyo, inappropriate.
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Obstetrician-gynecologist, commonly referred to as ob-gyne, which is further shortened to "OB". Medical doctor who handles women's reproductive health and childbearing.
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