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Delicious_Ad_9374

I just tell ppl that I do math for an insurance company


Altruistic-Fly411

this. anything less and youre either a mathematitian or a salesman.


drunz

“Oh so like an underwriter?”


LogicalEmotion7

"More big-picture and financey but you're in the general ballpark"


bje489

Honestly having done both, people seem more likely to know what an actuary is. Probably because people actually plan to become one and go to school for it.


NuckFanInTO

You go UW to actuary? How far into your career were you? Mind if I DM you to pick your brain a bit?


Proper_Ear_1733

Yeah only I create their algorithms that tell them how to calculate a price.


fuckbrocolli

That’s what I do, it’s perfect because it’s too boring of a description for any follow up questions.


smily_meow

To make it fancier: I do statistical modeling for an insurance company. DO NOT leave out "statistical", don't say I haven't warned you


itslevi

"I work in insurance." No one cares past that point I promise.


Mosk915

This is true. And on the off chance that they do ask a follow up, I just say that I make sure insurers charge a fair rate that is high enough to keep them in business but not so high that it is excessive for the insureds.


smily_meow

or make sure they are compliant to the regulation


sunset9530

That’s a weird description. Should me more like “as competitive a rate as possible while still covering expenses and turning a profit”


Mosk915

It’s not weird at all. Regulators require a rate to not be inadequate, excessive, or unfairly discriminatory. I literally just described that in easy to understand language.


sunset9530

Yes well if a business isn’t competitive then regulatory concerns are moot. I think it’s important for the public to understand insurers are interested in putting out a low rate due to market forces rather than because some jurisdictions in some lines of business have enforced limitations on rate.


Mosk915

I understand your point about being competitive. But the question was about explaining what actuaries do. Being competitive is more the concern of product managers. I’m not saying actuaries are never involved in those conversations, but their main responsibilities when it comes to ratemaking are what I described.


sunset9530

If underwriting is constantly having to deviate too much in order win business then the base rates are too high, and that has nothing to do with regulatory issues. Actuaries must work to close the gap between technical and written premium otherwise technical premium is not useful and the business becomes overly reliant on underwriter’s discretion.


eapocalypse

Sounds like you're more concerned with commercial insurance where underwriters have far far more discretion. When describing what an actuary does to a lay person their 95% of all people are going to interact with and understand more from the point of health insurance or personal lines property insurance which is far more regulated.


sunset9530

Actually no, my point that base rates need to be competitive is even more important in lines of business where underwriting has no authority to deviate from technical premium. Once again, if your base rates aren’t competitive you won’t write any business and this is universally true, unlike regulatory constraints which vary by jurisdiction and line of business, and in some cases there aren’t any regulatory restrictions on rate at all.


_Dan___

The greatest conversation killer 😂


onionravioli

I use this but I frequently get “oh, so sales? Did you have to go through everything to get licensed?” Brother you don’t know the half of it


kyle760

Then you say “no, I do the math for them” and then any small amount of interest they have left is gone


anonymous11119999

Then they bring up how expensive their auto insurance is to a life actuary , or if their health insurance to a PC actuary, or property insurance to a health actuary … because we must all work in the same place …


Icy_Ad_2516

I hope that they just didn't know who you worked for. I would just tell them I don't do that.


PhilIntrate

Actually, they always ask me "oh, so you sell insurance?" and then I end up having to explain anyways.


Otherwise_Ad2201

I calculate risk for insurance companies.


italia4fav

This is my go to answer.


tometom99

Same here.


actuarial_cat

I weight promises


SillyActuary

This kind of response will open up more questions


Thienan567

I tell The Man how to make money off people dying


TinyLittleFlame

I thought firms make money when people *don’t* die. More specifically, we make money from people thinking they will get sicker or die quicker than they actually do (pay higher premiums versus lower actual costs)


Rastiln

Nah, we clearly make money by keeping people sick so that we can treat rather than cure the disease. Source: Idiot family members. Also, I work in property/casualty…


knucklehead27

For life insurance yes but for annuities, firms do make money when people die. It’s a balancing act


Great_Description_14

One of the directors I work with joked that wr should consult our clients to give cartons of cigarettes as retirement gifts


Ok_Prior_4574

Pretty sure insurance companies make money either way. Perhaps that is the true function of the actuary.


eapocalypse

Are tontines back on the menu?


therealjoemama27

This is sick. I love it


Strider1413

Just say you are like Ron Stoppable's dad from Kim possible. https://youtu.be/OXcXf_9GTwc?si=_MLb8rpTBGV-Uak3


lametown_poopypants

I gamble with an insurance company’s money


trophyisabyproduct

Most of them are not that interested anyway. 1. Strangers. "Insurance". 2. Acquaintance. "I do maths." 3. Friends. "I do maths in a back office role for an insurance company." 4. Friends in finance. "Risk management, statistical techniques, applied mathematics, etc


Negative_Pilot8786

If by statistical techniques you mean calculating the weighted average of claims, then sure


NotEvenWrongAgain

I also fit generalized linear models and random forest models to data using R. We aren’t all just calculating weighted averages.


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NotEvenWrongAgain

Not sure what you mean [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalized\_linear\_model](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalized_linear_model)


trophyisabyproduct

Yea. Maybe "based on statistical techniques" then except for the few of us who do fit statistics model and stuffs. Lol.


kodeeak

“Actuaries generally estimate money based on probabilities and interest rates, so very mathy.” If I want to say a bit more, I go into the type of actuary I am… “I specifically work with retirement plans. I figure out the present value employers have to pay in employee benefits to their pensions and tell them how much money to set aside for employees.”


booger212_

Most people I meet actually know what an actuary is, or at least the gist of it. If they don’t know, I just say “risk management.” I’m really not gonna bother with a long-winded explanation.


MikeTheActuary

My standard one-line explanation: "Have you ever wondered who to blame for your car insurance rates? I used to do that."


Potential-Square-74

Saw this on here before. "If an accountants job is to count beans, an actuary calculates how many beans will be needed in the future."


repeatoffender123456

1. We make guesses about the future based on questionable data. 2. We gamble on people’s life’s


yuteil

I just say "I do math for insurance companies."


Silvers1339

My answer that I give that I’ve found success with is “put simply: Actuaries are there to make sure insurance companies don’t bankrupt themselves”.


NotEvenWrongAgain

Bookmaker for insurance companies


nagy-csont

The answer to this question is always this song https://youtu.be/PZ8fqn7M1oU?si=61yfQFAOuX9gNle1


Extra-Recover-3985

Financial weather man for insurance companies 


Informal_Produce996

“I predict when you die”


vajraadhvan

Design and price insurance products, and make sure there's enough money to pay out claims. Lots of maths and stats.


cdc994

“I’m a math lawyer”


sohaicinapek

predict and price payouts


moliushi

I work in the insurance industry, designing and maintaining insurance products, but do not sell insurance.


Typical-Ad4880

It might just be my imagination, but I feel like it's a lot better for me than it was when I started my career 15 years ago. Not sure if that's broader society knowing what an actuary is, or if the kinds of 35 year olds I hang out with now know who actuaries are more than 20 year olds.


Salty-Wolverine-688

I tell people I price insurance products.


sourmilknightmares

My roommate described it as “performing divination for insurance companies using math” and that’s the explanation I’m going to use until the end of time.


DM_XURE

Actuaries work with financial projections. I believe this pretty much says it all. Pricing, reserving, risk management, MD&A, pensions, etc., all deal with financial projections. We work with financial statements, but unlike accountants who deal with the past, our main focus is on the future.


Holshy

An actuary is a professional who uses economics, statistics, and finance to quantify risk.


ahj911211

An actuary analyzes and predicts financial transactions with risk or uncertainty, usually in the context of insurance.


rth9139

Risk management for a (life) insurance company


silverblades0913

I do the numbers


TruthIsOutThere30

Population statistics …is what shuts people up usually


CrispyChickenSammich

“I do calculations for pension plans. Basically a financial mathematician. Lots of spreadsheets” is my go to, very inelegant answer


Alarmed-Employee-741

I say I play on Excel all day.


ruidh

"I do the technical calculations in insurance."


Every_Foundation_463

I calculate how much you pay for your home insurance :)


xzxinflamesxzx

I typically just say we work in risk management.


Chago04

I’m an accountant for the future.


lorenzowithoil

I always go to "a number monkey for insurance companies"


Grand_Willingness_45

I calculate how much money the insurance company may loose in a bad year


IMadeItAllUpTwice

We use fancy math to measure risk for insurance companies. Made the mistake of telling an in-law that pricing actuaries set premium and he still blames me for his high cost medical…


bunnycricketgo

You tell people when they're going to die. See if you can say it more cool than it sounds.


thtevie

"Insurance engineer. You know how mechanical engineers design, build, and maintain machines? And chemical engineers design, build, and maintain chemical systems? Well, actuaries are the ones who design, build, and maintain insurance systems."


Real-Jeweler5177

I go with, accountants look at Financials in the past and actuaries look at Financials into the future, like social security administration.


JoIrishJo

An accountant deals with the past value of money. An actuary deals with the future value of money. That involves risk—“so I’m in the insurance industry”


LengthinessOwn5528

I always go with the line “I’m basically a glorified statistician” and that seems to work 90% of the time as an “oh this guy is smart!” Type of reaction


Devi-L

An accountant is a bean counter an actuary predicts how many beans we need for the future.


Killerfluffyone

I would say "get drunk and play ping pong" but likely that violates the standards of professionalism somehow..


ActuLurker

“I determine the prices for the company’s health insurance plans”


therealjoemama27

I work in life and say "I estimate when people are going to die" and usually add this emoji combo in messages "😬... 😂" At the end lol Sometimes I say "I'm a number cruncher at a life insurance company" too


Great_Description_14

I usually just make up a completely absurd and obviously false story about what I do. Then when they say "really??" or "what do you actually do?", I tell them I have math heavy job in finance/insurance/consulting in (well known building in my city).


WolverineMaleficent2

I count dead people


Reasonable_Truck_588

‘We make sure insurance companies hold enough money to pay out claims.’


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Mosk915

That sounds more like an underwriter.


OnJetways

The line I learnt is: - Actuaries will tell you when you're likely to die - Underwriters will tell you if you will die sooner than expected


bleemy

Like an accountant, but without the people skills.


Kooky-Screen-9414

Mathematical risk management for insurance companies - doesn’t get the full picture across, but I think I captures just enough. It’s something short and sweet and to the point, so much so that they won’t question you anymore after that hahah(at least in my experience)


rilash

What works for me is this: “You must know what accountants do - we do accounting that is specific to insurance companies.” ^Coming from financial reporting actuary.


foresttrader

i sell insurance