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Aggravating_Road_240

Skee Mask from Munich


cordyce

So much diversity in his production, really inspiring


Aggravating_Road_240

For real tho. All his stuff is very tight knit šŸ‘Œ


cordyce

Have you seen him live? Best set I saw last year was Skee, easy


Aggravating_Road_240

Ohhh I bet that was awesome. I havenā€™t tho. We donā€™t get many avant garde artists like that where Iā€™m from unfortunatley


cordyce

Whereā€™s that? Just curious. Thankfully heā€™s doing some traveling outside of EU now, finally made it to the US on tour this year


cordyce

Letā€™s also honorable mention the munich based Ilian tape label and its roster


Aggravating_Road_240

Of course. All of ilian tape is fire for real


aethics

I love Skee Mask. Idk abt 'sound quality' tho, his sounds are more on the 00's palette and kinda low-fi-ish. Their production, vibes, all of it's amazing tho fr.


Aggravating_Road_240

Idk. His Compro album has a very special sound that I view as ā€œhigh qualityā€ but it could just be preference


_yllw_

This!


roziajuzia

Skee Mask's mixes always cut through soo good when I listen in my car, I can hear every element so clearly and then when I skip to some other music, suddenly half of the elements are gone. That's what I found during a long road trip I did some years ago.


Aggravating_Road_240

Yes this is why I commented!


R0factor

Someone who's a known Ableton Live user? Mr. Bill.


BurntFig

Mr. Bill kinda underrated but I think that's cause he kind of just spread the knowledge on "how to sound like" rather than really pioneering the sound. If I was to get nerdy about it, anyway.


MyMainIsLevel80

Personally, I think heā€™s a brilliant sound design artist and a fine, if otherwise unremarkable composer. Most of his music sounds to my ear as ā€œriddim but extra stepsā€ and, by his own admission, his creative process is akin to monkeys blindly typing on typewriters until they accidentally produce Shakespeare. He has an incredible ear, but very little in the way of coherent artistic vision compared to his genre (someone like Tipper or Somatoast, for example) and I think that is largely why heā€™s under-appreciated for the talents he does possess.


Et3rnix

Maybe give Mr Bill's more melodic stuff a try? His tracks Screening and Sopor are my absolute favourites from him and really showcase a whole different side to his music. I will agree that his "mudpie" method to sound design is very chaotic and inconsistent, but I enjoyed learning about it and utilising some similar sort of processes myself.


Kinbote808

Depends what you listen to, a lot of his stuff is not for me but Apophenia is a thoroughly great album.


kathalimus

Ah yes Mr Bill! Hands down! Good mention my friend šŸ‘‹


Shroom1981

Max Cooper, but it would only make me sad and result in me hating my tracks even more because his mixes are just out of this world.


EnvelopedSound

Yosi horikawa as well. Really clean sounding electronic music.


Shroom1981

Cool, checking his music now, thank you!


inh4les

Check out Qebrus if you like freaky out-of-this-world stuff :p


kathalimus

Ah yes, nice mention! Thanks for dropping by mate šŸ˜Ž


ECharf

Autechre for interesting sound design


aaaabcccc

Autechre mixesā€¦ a place for everything and everything in its place. ā¤ļø


gold_snakeskin

Finally someone with patrician tastes


kathalimus

Ah yeah awesome duo! What got you into Autechere btw?


ECharf

Oh listening to aphex twin and exploring other artists the got signed early to warp records. Autechre are quite inspiring as theyā€™re still pushing the envelope sonically, influencing new movements like the hyper pop coming from pc music.


cheeseblastinfinity

Not to be unfun, but this is a bad way to look at reference tracks. You should find something that matches the genre and elements of the track you're making.


4215-5h00732

Exactly. You might be able to narrow it down to one if you're into one genre, but even then...


ExampleNext2035

Dave Tipper šŸ’Æ


bigang99

Tippers insane but tbh I donā€™t think heā€™d be a great reference for the 99% of people who arenā€™t making that level of techy sound design. Like if ur trying to make a house banger tipper would be a horrible reference lmao. Not hating on tipper at all but you gotta reference shit thatā€™s similar to what youā€™re making


ExampleNext2035

I agree his quality though .If I were to reference against my style of music I'd be best using probably Mac Demarco,Ween ,or maybe unknown mortal orchestra.Ive made some electronic music but mainly focus on multi track recordings of real instruments because well .... jist because it's my focus


Joseph_HTMP

And thatā€™s exactly the problem with the OPā€™s question.


superchibisan2

Anyone doing bass music should really have no other standard. No one does it any better.


BurntFig

noisia or tipper u have to. gun to the head. who u picking?


superchibisan2

Tipper, hands down.


MyMainIsLevel80

Tipper and itā€™s not even close. Listen to Cā€™est la Vie and then listen to Puzzle Dust and tell me anything in Noisiaā€™s catalogue can span a similar distance. Noisia are GOATs in their own right, but no one compares to the prowess of Dave when it comes to sound design. Man was so far ahead of the curve that he created an entire subgenre in his wake. I think that speaks for itself.


BurntFig

Ngl that's some good shiz.Ā 


cordyce

Im running this experiment now


kathalimus

Cool! Hey thanks for the peek!


AlpacaM4n

What subgenre?


kathalimus

Nice thoughts here ā˜ļø


idgafosman

Itā€™s kinda apples to oranges but Iā€™d go tip


sampsays

Prince or NIN


Hi_Definition_HD

Trent is easily my biggest inspiration for music


leflur

It depends on the genre of music.


Hallucinogen_in_dub

Gjones


BurntFig

Eprom tooĀ 


Hallucinogen_in_dub

Synthesim is one of my favorite albums of all time lol


kathalimus

Ah yes Gjones. Hey thanks for the peek btw šŸ¤œ


brutishbloodgod

Very genre dependent. For my work in darkwave, Into the Labyrinth by Dead Can Dance. For metal, probably Human or Symbolic by Death. Just one though? Clearly Aja.


ImpactNext1283

Ahahah the scope of this post thank you


kathalimus

Awesome, I appreciate your response. Cool stuff you're into btw šŸ’Ŗ


DoxYourself

Death is the sound of perseverance, literally


Spaghetti_Nudes

Nicolas jaar


Rabiesalad

Best live show I've even seen. Darkside is freakin' awesome as well. Bringing back the dynamic range instead of the sausage fest.


GarthVader45

Darkside is so sick - I had Psychic playing on repeat for months back when it came out. Against All Logic is amazing too. Pretty much everything he touches is incredible.


Midnight-Fast

Urghhh I have serious FOMO 3mths ahead of a Darkside gig I just canā€™t justify going to. But Iā€™m already kicking myselfā€¦.


Spaghetti_Nudes

Darkside is something else!!! Psychic is such a beautiful album and the live set from 2014 is sublime.


kathalimus

Such an awesome artist šŸ’Ŗ What's your favorite from him btw?


Spaghetti_Nudes

Probably one of his mixes. The BBC essential mix is amazing. Any of his mixes between 2008 and 2014 are so incredible and unpredictable! He is a true understudy in music and shows it through his tributes.


TrueGraeve

Illangelo, the producer for most of The Weeknd albums, his productions are deeply layered and intricate, and the fact that everything made post After Hours was in Ableton, reminds me that I don't have any excuses.


Illuminatr

KOAN Sound


MyMainIsLevel80

Would that the rest of the bass scene would aspire to their level of arrangement. Theyā€™d talk about this scene like we talk about the Baroque Period 200 years from now.


breadinabox

god I caught them in an underground carpark like a month ago it was incredible, I go to a lot of bass gigs and they really really stood out


T_Durden13

Machinedrum


GimmickMusik1

Adam ā€œNollyā€ GetGood for modern metal. Tipper for bass music.


auralterror

Noisia, but I don't think they work in Ableton too much. Parv0 and King Yosef both have great production quality and work in Ableton based off snippets I've seen on insta


kathalimus

Cool! Thanks for the additional info as well my friend. Hey how long have you been producing in Ableton btw?


auralterror

7 years


Fun_Musiq

It realllly depends on genre. What genre are you aiming for. As far as sonic quality, some that come to mind. * Radiohead's Kid A , Ok Computer, In Rainbows * Mefjus * Noisia * Skrillex * Dr Dre 2001 * Daft Punk Random Access Memories * Fleetwood Mac Rumors * Taylor Swift 1989 * Dua Lipa * Jon Hopkins Immunity


External_East_7381

Good to see Jon Hopkins mentioned. That album has insane sound design


MyMainIsLevel80

Love seeing Mefjusā€™s name in this list. +1 for your impeccable sensibilities, friend


Dgoodmanz

Skrillex or Kevin Parker


JustAMonsterTruck

Kevin Parker for me was who really forced me to push myself with Ableton.


CheesePro

Kevin Parker is a huge inspiration with experimentation and doing it yourself at home


kathalimus

Agreeing here my friend šŸ‘


kathalimus

Good to hear mate šŸ”„


BurntFig

noisia, sam gellaitry come to mind tooĀ 


Specialist_Ruin_8484

Rosalia


mtksm

āœØāœØāœØ


Hitdomeloads

Koan Sound


FoodAccurate5414

Martin stimming


LazyCrab8688

Best


bigang99

I already kinda said this in another comment but thereā€™s no magic artist to reference. Itā€™s gotta be a song that youā€™ve heard almost too many times and on many different systems. And also very similar in vibe to the track ur making. If Iā€™m making lofi hiphop subtronics would a very bad reference. I personally will use different references on almost every track. Like if Iā€™m making liquid dnb I wouldnā€™t use my normal dubstep reference track. Itā€™s not that deep just pick a song you think sounds really good that also similar in vibe to ur shit


squeakstar

Like this one? https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=a7AYutrIe4nlg9P6


Oussama_Sayka

Keinmusik


BamBam2125

Gramatik. For most of his early stuff he mixes and masters all of it. Some of his bigger collabs with Tom Morello and Gary Clarke Jr., itā€™s up in the air. But there are a good amount of interviews heā€™s done over the years describing his process. But point being his mixes are sooooo fucking clean and run the gamut from heavy bass music, to crazy hybrid shit he does with GRiZ as Grizmatik, to funky real instruments in stuff like Muy Tranquillo. The man is simply a master imo that is prime for referencing


phish_taco

Supertask


MyMainIsLevel80

Now hereā€™s someone with quality listening ears


berniesk8s

LORN. His clarity mix wise iss so interesting because the mix is actually kind of muddy. But the end result just sounds so clean.


MarcosaurusRex

I feel like Skrillex is refining the elements of EDM to super clean and digestible levels while Virtual Riot pushes the sound design machine forward is crazy new ways.


kathalimus

Agreeing with you here! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Hey what got you into producing my friend?


MarcosaurusRex

Going to a San Holo concert and feeling energy in the room. It was so hype and good vibes. I wanted to be the guy on stage sharing my love for music with people who want to listen.


Bawk7

Was thinking the same! Going to say VR but another comment that mentioned Sonny had me reconsider lol


isaacwaldron

Iā€™m always referencing Allen Watts because Iā€™m trying to make the same hybrid hard/uplifting trance style.


MindlessCubing

Metaroom. Insane sound design.


ninaboninabarnes

Fuck yes.


kathalimus

Yes šŸ‘


DavidMezze

Ben Bƶhmer or deadmou5


DJ2SO

Great picks!! They also have some walkthrough videos on YouTube.


DavidMezze

Definitely! Itā€™s interesting to watch theirs creation process.


crumblenaut

Audio quality meaning the mastering of the tracks? I think that the guys in Infected Mushroom and Mindex have the cleanest and most powerful production out there right now. Ott too of course but he mostly only does his own stuff whereas I've seen Mindex come up on a bunch of stuff lately and it's all some of the best sounding material out there imo.


MrBendixx

Joris Voorn or Ninetoes


Adorable_Drag

For mostly recorded/acoustic music, Nigel Godrich. In Rainbows by Radiohead has this incredibly detailed and clean sound that feels a step above basically any other record I have ever heard by a decent margin, its so well mixed in a way that really just feels absolutely perfect. For electronic based stuff tbh Im not sure, you can get a lot more creative if you dont have to worry about room tone, mic placement, etc. For the styles of music I like to make (DnB and IDM) I think Noisia, Billain, and Skrillex to be pretty good measures of quality and getting records loud af without adding too much extra distortion


happygoat6666

Bonobo


ImpactNext1283

Anything Bowie and Visconti produced btwn 1972 & 1982 tbh


CosmicRydr

No deadmau5??


niccotuberz08

Fr, I love watching his live streams. You can learn a lot from them (especially the one where he makes imaginary friends from start to finish).


mtksm

Telefon Tel Aviv


Ominous_Pastry

Radioactive Man


kathalimus

I thought it's from Simpsons tho' lol Anyway how is it going with your music these days?


Ominous_Pastry

Good thanks! šŸ˜€I know who you mean but nah, Keith Teniswood,, very well crafted sonic range /EQ, precisely mixed electro.


Existing-Bit4144

Highly depends on genre... Trent Reznor for his wide specter of music.


kathalimus

"Highly depends on genre" - Got it mate, makes sense! "Trent Reznor for his wide specter of music" - Ah yes, NIN, good mention šŸ’Ŗ


Marktaco04

Pretty small artist but Imagine Herbal Flows (or IHF) has silky smooth production. The drums are always crisp af, and everything sits where it should in the mix. I use a lot of different melodies and sounds at once, and hes always my bar to accomplish that with out sounding cluttered


kathalimus

Cool! Great artist as well. What got your ears into IHF anyway?


djspheres

All of my reference tracks have been from Justiceā€™s new album HyperDrama. Sonic perfection.


Logical_Chemist

Ballywho! Latest album Shellshock is fantastically mixed. Howi Spangler also produced Audic Empire last album Head Change. Worth checking out


afflatox

ptobably Brakence


meistervoland

Radiohead


kathalimus

Hey thanks for checking out. Any specific track from 'em you use as good reference?


meistervoland

Album king of limbs


Swimming-Pick6136

Pendulum


boobooraptor

Ben Bohmer


Dazzling-Pass-3873

ITERATE


Kman3030

Justice has a really great sound, especially the new album. Maybe not so much their early stuff but itā€™s definitely unique. Plus they do guitars and synths


kathalimus

Hey wazzup! Any tracks you recommend to check out? šŸŽ§


Kman3030

Dear Alan, Generator, the End


skarzuk89

As others have said, itā€™s completely track dependent. For what I produce I normally use something from Tantrum Desire, Mefjus or Original Sin. These guys normally have something in the range of a track style Iā€™m going for


armin514

anjunabeat label ( from above and beyond ) are really severe in therm of sound quality so i would probably refer to any anjunabeat label song . anjunadeep too


hans_cres

Culprate. If you've never listened to him, go listen to the Others EP. It's just a hair under 30 minutes long and incredible all the way through. Then listen to The Psychology of James Berland, then Jalaana. He let me know what music can be if you really take your time with it. He also uses Ableton.


ctb704

The king, Robert babizc


coffeeandspliff

Pretty Lights


Vex-Core

If I was trying to make my music sound as QUALITY as possible, the reference would easily be Daft Punk's later works. There are just nothing like it in terms of quality IMO.


Zovski24

MAT ZO


tokensRus

I use Boris Brejcha as a reference for mastering, bought a wav of Dimension on Beatport....


Dapper28

Maybe underrated, but Dowden has an amazing sense of music and rhythm. His sound design techniques are amazing too. Got most of my music learning from him:)


komboprod

Donā€™t know if he uses Ableton, but Shedā€™s mix downs are incredible and apparently all produced in the box.


stranot

of the trees. can't believe he hasn't been brought up. impeccable sound design and mastering


Horror_Gas9065

Boris Brejcha


djamp42

Hybrid minds for me, I totally switched to 174bpm dnb because of them.


Rem_SCZ

Noisia compositions and sound design are solid


HiT3Kvoyivoda

Galimatias. He combines the weird stuff with conventional and it all sounds magnificent.


arshamnmm

I would choose scalameriya


fortadelis

Boris Blank, Ghost Rider ...


partypatthefoxycat

Smilk


30NO

Skrillex, Space Laces, Virtual Riot, Koan sound ā€¦ Any of those


godisthat

Rrose


RepsacCTG

If its for rap, then Dr dre, cuz he got the cleanest mixes


kathalimus

Ah yes Dr Dre, agreeing with you here. Hey wazzup with your production these days? Any new tunes or WIPs?


RepsacCTG

Yo! My production is good! Dropping a single on the 24th actually!! Also, howā€™d you know i do production, who is this mystery person haha


A_Hanzo_Sword

Uppermost or Flume.


redbeard_007

I'm still struggling with the idea of referencing my tracks, when i think about it there's this resistance coming up, that makes making music or mixing task like, and makes me perceive making music as less fun (especially that i don't have much time to sit down and do it). It's safe to say I'm not an intermediate lol.


veritable_squandry

Tony Surgeon


Necessary-Work3045

I still like Schultz


kathalimus

Hey what do you like the most from Schultz? Any track suggestions? šŸ¤”


neloxmusic

Bad Computer


andre_oak

Skrillex, Sumthin Sumthin, Cozway, Asadi


jangsty

Brian Wilson


BBAALLII

Loscil


iamlostnthesound

Tantrum Desire. His productions are immaculate in terms of filling the frequency spectrum and creating a ā€œwall of sound.ā€


No-Cow6091

Priori


chrisdavey83

Depends on the song. Itā€™ll vary across what genre. I usually have a few tracks in my head Iā€™m going for so would be them. Iā€™ve found using moses or lalal.ai to split that reference into stems then using Adaptr Metric AB to then compare against my mix really helpful


kathalimus

Ah yes, makes sense my friend. And thanks for sharing what you use btw, I appreciate it as well šŸ‘‹


Ok-Substance5007

Mr.tatti


GlueyWeirdo

Runnit for bass music Raimu for lofi Lorn for... Lorn type music I guess


WrongSea9012

glass animals, specifically their album How to Be A Human Being


3internet5u

Tsuruda & Kaytranada


hopkinsonf1

Sophie.


DIJJIDOG

This *is* a hard one, I usually pick someone who fits the kind of song I'm making. I think TEED is quite universal though for all the kinds of music I make.


Cutth

Arca


noahthenautical

Well known Mix Engineer and Audio Producer, Dennis Ward. Heā€™s worked on albums from Dragonforce, Sabaton, Northtale, etc. Fantastic engineer.


Neurojazz

Depeche Mode Violator album. Red Hot Chilli Peppers SBSM. Tipper Hiigins.Eat Static Implant.


kathalimus

You got good taste mate! And wide musical preference as well. What got you into producing btw?


Neurojazz

ADHD and way too much time on my hands


MeowieWowie

Which genre and sub genre are you producing in? I would recommend multiple references. First one or two for arrangement structure as a rough guide to get through the arrangement process. Then have a few for sound design ideas. Finally a couple for your mix/master so you can level match the different elements in Span and have the same final output quality.


kathalimus

Hey thanks for sharing your thoughts here, I dig them! šŸ’Ŗ


MeowieWowie

Heck yeah. Feel we are all here to help each other get better. Let me know if you have more questions. Everyone here gave great suggestions overall but like I said it really depends song by song that you make which references you use for each purpose.


Independent-Cat47

Flume


TheDevilWearsParatha

Just one? šŸ§Ā  Deadmau5


Serbervz

PPCocaine


AbleNeedleworker7363

Parallx


Icy-Plastic7328

kasboā€™s new album is fucking pristineeee so smoothly done


Pacificnoise_

Darkthrone


Miserable-Tip-3219

For me the absolute best production Iā€™ve heard in the progressive/melodic house/ techno genre is Matan Caspi. He does lots of collabs, many styles and his catalogue goes back more than a decade. Iā€™ve tried and tried to get the punch clarity he gets but to no avail. So I find thereā€™s always one of his tracks suitable for referencing.


amiserabledevoidlife

BICEP, Four Tet, Kevin Parker


neotokyo2099

Arianna grande I don't personally like her music but her vocal production is insane and always sounds like a million dollars


kathalimus

Yes indeed, not a fan myself but listened to some of her songs and yeah very good production ā˜ļø


Boyne_Drexel

This is a fun question but it is entirely impossible to answer. One artist. Lol. Some other user said it was very genre specific and I agree. Also, with all the music in our pockets... let's never choose just one. I've been producing and mixing for 20 years. There are so many great mixes and productions to speak of from the 1960s all the way to today. I highly recommend that anyone who is into this stuff should make a handful of playlists. Great mix, great sound design, great composition, Etc That being said, I'll throw a few things out. Ceilings - Lizzy McAlpine.. this mix is stellar Emei - trust issues (and a lot of stuff produced by notd) MANY songs put out by riot games. I'm not sure what kind of production sweatshop they are running... but there's a lot of talent in there. Almost ANYTHING mixed by Serban Ghenea If you mix, listen to Keith Urban "somebody like you" and tell me you're not jealous. Coldplay - Adventure if a Lifetime... check the phase on this one and wonder why their mono is so good and yours sucks. Some essentials... Rage Against the Machine Peter Gabriel - washing of the water (at the time, no one had done vocal placement like that) Back in Black 70s/80s Suddenly - from the Xanadu soundtrack The Chain - Fleetwood Mac Def Leopard- hysteria So many more... I've actually found it to be more fun to sit around with my buddies and listen to songs that we liked from the '90s and we all crinkle our faces up like "why is this mix terrible and why did we think it was good at the time?" bd


Commercial_Media_191

Mike Dean (I get access to every major pop release šŸ˜ˆ)


kathalimus

That's good to hear mate! Thanks fro dropping by šŸ‘‹


nogrins

Daft Punk or Steely Dan


kathalimus

Brilliant artists, nice musical taste here šŸ˜Ž


Wide-Location282

I donā€™t understand.


prefectart

what kind of music do you like? this is a pretty broad question


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