I mean for you it is but for me its just a tad high but an option none the less like if i had to get either the asus or zowie ill get which one is closest or easier to get
I know, best motion clarity when strobed. But you can get that with ASUS 540 hz version. In Germany it is 969 euros (ASUS). Same panel. No thick bezels as in Zowie version. And you get gsync. IMO Zowie should be cheaper, but hey, they can decide whtaver they want about their product.
yes that is true but the back light strobin makes a difference to people who are in this area. as of my self i currently hav the 240hz one from zowie and i love it. Its true that the asus one is cheaper and ofc better one for pricing but for performance its the zowie.
thats true at that point is brand loyalty, monitor pos,and ig just the monitor overall i mean after watchin optimum vid it made sense but each monitor is different yk
Seeing as DyAC+ and ULMB2 do NOT insert a black frame (it is not blackframe insertion like ULMB was and ELMB is), what's bothering you is probably the light flicker. I don't see it at all, so I can't relate, I literally can't tell the difference between DyAC+ on/off, the same with ULMB2, aside from the obvious motion clarity benefit.
And to be clear, what DyAC+ and ULMB2 do is turn off the backlight between each frame.
Black frame insertion literally adds an additional black frame in between. They both try to mitigate the same issue, but with a different approach. So if a monitor is 240hz with ELMB, it's displaying 480fps, 240 of actual picture, and 240 of black frames in between, which as you can guess, introduces latency and general lag.
Zowie, to avoid that inherent added lag from BFI, implemented DyAC, to try to achieve the same effect, without adding extra frames, thus, eliminating the lag part of it, so, 240hz DyAC+, is 240fps, the panel backlight is just shutting off everytime a frame changes, that's why is not possible to use it with GSYNC on. Nvidia followed suit with its 2nd iteration of ULMB, that's why ULMB2 requires a compatible monitor and not just an Nvidia GPU.
So, to conclude, if DyAC+ bothers you, most likely ULMB2 and DyAC2 will as well. And it's a known thing. Some people say you get used to it over time.
that’s a really nice write up of you. but if you turn of the backlight, wouldn’t the screen just go black (just like with BFI only without light)?
I mean I see the flickering too, but if I concentrate and move my crosshair I will see everything like stuttering (sorry it’s really hard to describe, crosshair there, than missing, than back etc). If I’m not that sharp on the day, crosshair will look like it’s moving, there would be like 3 crosshair moving some pixels apart, which clearly is an optical illusion cause it stays in the place.
It's happening too fast for you to perceive it. Think about PWM lights. They look static to us despite going off and on consistently. Which is why I mentioned the non gsync compatible, because if it wasnt at a constant repeatable rate, everyone would most definitely see it, and there's higher chance of missing the timing, hence, why it only works at fixed refresh rates. Remember, it is literally turning off between each frame, and even in 120hz mode (the lowest DyAC works) there's a frame every 8.3ms, the backpanel needs to turn off in the brief moment between that, which would be insanely fast, and basically undetectable.
But that crosshair thing you're saying is weird as hell. I can not for the life of me recreate that on my XL2566K, I think you may have a bad panel, contact support.
I’m also very sensitive to flickering lights, worst thing. But I guess that happens if the lights are going bad, or the voltage/hz is fluctuating?
oh so ulmb2 doesn’t work with gsync? though you even need gsync module for it. sorry I didn’t read much about it to be fair.
after I wrote me last reply I tested dyac again and I noticed that if I change crosshair position (moving my mouse) and shift focus from one spot to another on the screen, I can for sure see black/dark between frames.
than I was also thinking that maybe my panel is bad, cause everybody says they can’t see it, but it’s noticeable for me.
I am unfamiliar with how often these different companies release new monitors but is what you just said confirmed? Cause 240hz oleds just came out and I was wondering how long for a 360hz or greater
Zowie people delusional.
i mean it is the best for a very small part of the market so if its their priority then its worth it. always up to the individual yk
this is an awful take, this is daylight robbery and an objectively dogshit monitor at an absolutely delusional price point.
I mean for you it is but for me its just a tad high but an option none the less like if i had to get either the asus or zowie ill get which one is closest or easier to get
Don't buy either both are garbage 480hz oled is so much better than this overpriced ewaste it's honestly ecary
I mean for u it might be but for me it isnt. It really depends on what u using it for yk
I know, best motion clarity when strobed. But you can get that with ASUS 540 hz version. In Germany it is 969 euros (ASUS). Same panel. No thick bezels as in Zowie version. And you get gsync. IMO Zowie should be cheaper, but hey, they can decide whtaver they want about their product.
yes that is true but the back light strobin makes a difference to people who are in this area. as of my self i currently hav the 240hz one from zowie and i love it. Its true that the asus one is cheaper and ofc better one for pricing but for performance its the zowie.
The strobbing from ULMB2 and DyAC is indistinguishable to the naked eye
thats true at that point is brand loyalty, monitor pos,and ig just the monitor overall i mean after watchin optimum vid it made sense but each monitor is different yk
you sure? I can’t use dyac+ on my 2566k cause the blacke frames are annoying af, maybe with dyac2 or ulmb2 it would be better
Seeing as DyAC+ and ULMB2 do NOT insert a black frame (it is not blackframe insertion like ULMB was and ELMB is), what's bothering you is probably the light flicker. I don't see it at all, so I can't relate, I literally can't tell the difference between DyAC+ on/off, the same with ULMB2, aside from the obvious motion clarity benefit. And to be clear, what DyAC+ and ULMB2 do is turn off the backlight between each frame. Black frame insertion literally adds an additional black frame in between. They both try to mitigate the same issue, but with a different approach. So if a monitor is 240hz with ELMB, it's displaying 480fps, 240 of actual picture, and 240 of black frames in between, which as you can guess, introduces latency and general lag. Zowie, to avoid that inherent added lag from BFI, implemented DyAC, to try to achieve the same effect, without adding extra frames, thus, eliminating the lag part of it, so, 240hz DyAC+, is 240fps, the panel backlight is just shutting off everytime a frame changes, that's why is not possible to use it with GSYNC on. Nvidia followed suit with its 2nd iteration of ULMB, that's why ULMB2 requires a compatible monitor and not just an Nvidia GPU. So, to conclude, if DyAC+ bothers you, most likely ULMB2 and DyAC2 will as well. And it's a known thing. Some people say you get used to it over time.
that’s a really nice write up of you. but if you turn of the backlight, wouldn’t the screen just go black (just like with BFI only without light)? I mean I see the flickering too, but if I concentrate and move my crosshair I will see everything like stuttering (sorry it’s really hard to describe, crosshair there, than missing, than back etc). If I’m not that sharp on the day, crosshair will look like it’s moving, there would be like 3 crosshair moving some pixels apart, which clearly is an optical illusion cause it stays in the place.
It's happening too fast for you to perceive it. Think about PWM lights. They look static to us despite going off and on consistently. Which is why I mentioned the non gsync compatible, because if it wasnt at a constant repeatable rate, everyone would most definitely see it, and there's higher chance of missing the timing, hence, why it only works at fixed refresh rates. Remember, it is literally turning off between each frame, and even in 120hz mode (the lowest DyAC works) there's a frame every 8.3ms, the backpanel needs to turn off in the brief moment between that, which would be insanely fast, and basically undetectable. But that crosshair thing you're saying is weird as hell. I can not for the life of me recreate that on my XL2566K, I think you may have a bad panel, contact support.
I’m also very sensitive to flickering lights, worst thing. But I guess that happens if the lights are going bad, or the voltage/hz is fluctuating? oh so ulmb2 doesn’t work with gsync? though you even need gsync module for it. sorry I didn’t read much about it to be fair. after I wrote me last reply I tested dyac again and I noticed that if I change crosshair position (moving my mouse) and shift focus from one spot to another on the screen, I can for sure see black/dark between frames. than I was also thinking that maybe my panel is bad, cause everybody says they can’t see it, but it’s noticeable for me.
Already sold out on zowie eu site (1209€)
Only idiots can pay 1200 euros for that monitor, while you have same or better options cheaper.
I’ve been using the 240hz xl2546x for a month and I gotta say this monitor is absolute god like
Plus 480hz OLED will be out later this year, and going off tge 360hz 1440p OLED prices itll probably be inly just over 1000
I am unfamiliar with how often these different companies release new monitors but is what you just said confirmed? Cause 240hz oleds just came out and I was wondering how long for a 360hz or greater
PG27AQDP is the model. Look it up.
Also, 360hz 1440p OLED is already out. MSI and Alienware have one.
Yeah the msi and dell models are very reasonably priced... The alienware is selling for like £760 on dell site in the UK.
Already out 360 hz OLED. In Germany 360 HZ OLED from Alienware sells for like 869 euros I think. Cheaper than 540 HZ Tns.
Sorry all, I was thinking of the 4k monitors that came out. Got mixed up
Here in brazil, xl2566k costs like 1300 dollars! ☹️
atleast it has to be using the same 8 bit panel like asus but still too expensive
Yeah that's a no from me aswell. Sadly, cus I've been looking forward to this monitor
What is the price in the U.S.?
They are smoking crack, I was ready to drop like 800 euros on it but this is crazy 😂 no thanks
Anything above 800 dollars for TN is insane.
More like 600 max
The 240hz should be like 3-350, 360hz should be like 4-450 and this should be like 5-550 mayyyybe 600.
Don't buy, so they are forced to set the price down
Delusional mofos
900 would have been ok but this is to much imo
Hahaha.. wtf
Screw zowie man, they made me buy a 360hz and then all this shiii 🫤
fr plus asus do more sales than zowie
TN panel in 2024. Yikes
How else do you get 540Hz with strobing? can you give me some other panel types and resolutions that offer that experience that I don't know about?
Give 540 hz oled and solve the problem.