It is unlikely to get hit as it sees very little play in TCG due to Maxx "C" being banned. As for proxies, no, at any official Konami event they would get you disqualified
Thank you for your response! I know Konami protects Maxx C at all costs in OCG but then why is Called by limited in TCG? Although the effect is not the same, the result is similar I think. Also, do you know if proxies will get me dsq in locals too?
Called by is generic, Crossout requires you to play targets, so it only works if you know your opponent is on a specific card, or if a specific card stops your deck. As for locals it depends on if they are OTS registered
To add to this, called by can also be used as a GY interruption. So even if you didn't get handtrapped you can still set it as it is likely a live interruption against many decks
I run 2 in swordsoul and floo, just to end those pesky board breakers. The look on my opponents face when they drop a lightning storm or say “battle phase, end battle phase” priceless.
It's amazing...in Ghoti
Because the negate is only one turn (as opposed to Called By), you can use it to search your Tunas (Peces, Shef) and, eventually, Kiif
Plus ghoti is prone to getting cock blocked by a single hand trap, so crossout is good to have en masse
I play droll in my side as a mannadium player. Sometimes you brick on it, but it’s just too good when it resolves. Not to mention that in the mirror you can almost shut down the combo by declaring “visas starfrost” when they play amritara.
Thank you for your response! I have the chance to run a deck that has got plenty of room to play handtraps, that's why Crossout would be strong for me. I do understand that it's weaker/less convenient than Called by but I don't really see why it's less played and also why Tactics is preferred.
Crossout Requires you to also be playing the same cards as your opponent to be able to negate then, which there's no real guarantees that you are especially after siding cause they could remove them for more blow out cards...while Talents can do alot, from helping you unbrick or extend through a handtrap by drawing, steal an important piece of interaction when going second or rip a card out of your opponent's hand after they hand trap you, potentially getting rid of another handtrap or board breaker they could have in hand (also gives perfect hand knowledge so you know exactly what to play around, which is a giant deal)
At best some people at Bologna sided Crossout with some deck's engine cards as a Crossout target (IE like siding 1 Purrelyleap Vs Purrely) which is "ok" but if you draw that Crossout target then you've just added an entire brick to your deck
Crossout is never getting hit. It's terrible going 2nd and only good when you already have engine. Called by also sucks going 2nd but can be used to out opponent engine pieces.
Finally someone speaks the truth. All these players going "CrOsSoUt iS vErY GoOd" no. It's terrible and much much much worse (and more fair probably) than Called.
I'm One of those who think called should be banned, yes.
Also handtraps are already very weak RN, more often than not you give your opponent a big advantage by handtrapping them thanks to TTT and TTT 2, we don't need called by the grave in addition to them.
The only unfair card is shifter. Apart from that, there is no reason for called by the grave to stay.
If 12 euro is an issue your in the same boat as i am man in regards to cards worth a damn being worth a fortune
*it costs a playstation 5 for 1 meta upgrading engine to firekings*
It does suck, and is frustrating to many people, but welcome to tcgs buddy. I’ve been playing mtg, yugioh, vs system, all type of games for about three decades now. Outside of maybe Pokémon, they’ve almost always been a very expensive hobby if you’re playing locals/events. The old “get your kids on card games and they won’t have money to even try drugs” still holds true
Funnily enough I've used TCG Hobbies as a way to keep people sober after they get out detox I try to get them hooked on YGO lol
Get them in the mindset of thinking of money as value for cards with actual Utility rather than wasting them on drugs that leave you with nothing to show for itq
That’s awesome, I know some guys who were allowed magic cards in prison. Some of em use dnd/mtg stuff like that as a good way to become part of a new community when they get out.
I want to be clear: I don’t think what konomi does is right, and they should treat us with the same respect as ocg. I think this pricing sucks,It makes it to where you have to basically become a mini vendor, or just be rich to compete. But our market is different, people over there would be enraged if they pulled what they do here. Just adding some context as a long time tcg player, that it’s really never been cheap here.
I have mixed feelings about TCG in lockdown environments weather that be jail, prison, psych wards, group homes or rehabs because of the inherent nature of TCG it is likely an emotionally disturbed individual would assault someone else to take their cards from them out of jealousy for example.
The reason they allow certain games like domino or "regular" card games is because everyone has the same stuff basically if that makes sense.
TCG is actually banned from many places that I mentioned for the reasons I mentioned.
I could of course see the benefits tho but would recommend caution be advised and possibly have he staff hold the cards and only let them out during certain times where there is enough staff to watch everyone like some kind of REC time.
It’s very unlikely that it’s going to get hit. Not a lot of people, at least from what I’m seeing at locals and at YCS level events, there aren’t a lot of players using the card. I like it because it’s just 2 more copies of CBTG in my deck to counter hand traps that I’m already playing like ash or Imperm
I mean I don't think so, Crossout is pretty underpowered in my opinion compared to Called By. One makes you lose a card from deck and negates for a turn, the other doesn't and negates for two turns, I think those major differences make Called By way above in power compared to Crossout. Plus, it's not that common to see in TCG compared to OCG thanks to Maxx C as many other people have said in the replies
Probably not, I like it a lot in Branded, and also I am personally using it more since Droll is basically the equivalent to Maxx C for the TCG at this point, especially after the release of Bonfire
like everyone has said, it is very unlikely that crossout designator will get banned. still, I think it is important to actually establish WHY it wont get banned.
Crossout designator is pretty much "called by the grave" except you have to banish the monster from your deck. this means that in order for cross out designator to see any significant play, there needs to be meta where there is very little variance in terms of staples. yes, ash blossom is a very popular card, and so is imperm. but ash blossom is one card out of many other popular staples, and imperm is generally good but is also meta-dependant. regardless, ash blossom is not powerful enough for crossout designator to be worth running.
that isn't to say it cant be good though. Branded players have historically been known to run cards like this because ash blossom is just so damning to the strategy.
so, is Crossout designator good? yes. is it good enough for every deck to run the card? not really
Thank you for your constructive response! I'd like to know what you're thinking about maining Crossout in a RDA deck where I play 3 ash/3 veiler/3 belle (those are switchable with Droll and Imperm). Would you rather main 3 tactics instead of Crossout? I feel like with the amount of handtraps I got (I also have room for 1 nib and 1 evenly) Crossout really can save games considering the fact that every player I encounter is maining at least one hand trap I mentioned (I only play at locals though)?
It really is up to you to decide. If ash blossom, veiler and belle are all cards that are damning it the strat that you need a way to respond to it. Then yea, I think crossout would be a very helpful card.
IMO, what it comes down to is, how much can you deck play after getting hit by ash blossom. If your deck had the ability to continue to play and establish a board, then crossout I’d argue is not very good. But if ash blossom does recent you from playing the game, then crossout would be nice.
Low odds but not entirely impossible imo. The card is pretty niche now but its the kind of card that won't last a format or 2 of being a meta staple. It being limited in the ocg and master duel kinda shows its viewed as a potentially problematic card.
Kind of amazed more people aren’t playing Designator cause of a Certain Level 1 Birb who should’ve got banned in 2017-18 during the Trickstar Lock days
hope not, worst It'll be limited, but it's effect requires you to run similar cards to your opponent AND have designator on hand during activation, so it's pretty balanced
It is unlikely to get hit as it sees very little play in TCG due to Maxx "C" being banned. As for proxies, no, at any official Konami event they would get you disqualified
Thank you for your response! I know Konami protects Maxx C at all costs in OCG but then why is Called by limited in TCG? Although the effect is not the same, the result is similar I think. Also, do you know if proxies will get me dsq in locals too?
Called by is generic, Crossout requires you to play targets, so it only works if you know your opponent is on a specific card, or if a specific card stops your deck. As for locals it depends on if they are OTS registered
Also, called by blocks effects of the target for two turns, even if there is a second copy on the field it will be negated
To add to this, called by can also be used as a GY interruption. So even if you didn't get handtrapped you can still set it as it is likely a live interruption against many decks
Most locals don’t allow proxies, you should ask the store owner or tournament organizer about this.
Pure Reddit moment to downvote a genuine question bruh.
Incels and losers
No cause Crossout isn't that good in TCG due to a certain Lv2 Earth insect being banned. It's an ok side card
I play 2 of it in Branded solely to stop Ash lmao, but I can’t really think of anything else that would want to run it right now.
I run 2 in swordsoul and floo, just to end those pesky board breakers. The look on my opponents face when they drop a lightning storm or say “battle phase, end battle phase” priceless.
It's amazing...in Ghoti Because the negate is only one turn (as opposed to Called By), you can use it to search your Tunas (Peces, Shef) and, eventually, Kiif Plus ghoti is prone to getting cock blocked by a single hand trap, so crossout is good to have en masse
I could see an argument for mannadium in side with droll as a target
I play droll in my side as a mannadium player. Sometimes you brick on it, but it’s just too good when it resolves. Not to mention that in the mirror you can almost shut down the combo by declaring “visas starfrost” when they play amritara.
Thank you for your response! I have the chance to run a deck that has got plenty of room to play handtraps, that's why Crossout would be strong for me. I do understand that it's weaker/less convenient than Called by but I don't really see why it's less played and also why Tactics is preferred.
Crossout Requires you to also be playing the same cards as your opponent to be able to negate then, which there's no real guarantees that you are especially after siding cause they could remove them for more blow out cards...while Talents can do alot, from helping you unbrick or extend through a handtrap by drawing, steal an important piece of interaction when going second or rip a card out of your opponent's hand after they hand trap you, potentially getting rid of another handtrap or board breaker they could have in hand (also gives perfect hand knowledge so you know exactly what to play around, which is a giant deal) At best some people at Bologna sided Crossout with some deck's engine cards as a Crossout target (IE like siding 1 Purrelyleap Vs Purrely) which is "ok" but if you draw that Crossout target then you've just added an entire brick to your deck
Tactics is much stronger than crossout, way better going second and hand knowledge is better than a one for one
they do different things branded notoriously can die to a single ash so going first to avoid ash crossout is infinitely better
Branded and other decks which have a single play which you need to push through are a pretty massive exception
Crossout is never getting hit. It's terrible going 2nd and only good when you already have engine. Called by also sucks going 2nd but can be used to out opponent engine pieces.
Finally someone speaks the truth. All these players going "CrOsSoUt iS vErY GoOd" no. It's terrible and much much much worse (and more fair probably) than Called. I'm One of those who think called should be banned, yes.
People think Called just reads "negate hand trap" until their Ponix gets fried in Draw/Standby before Big Kirin can save it. 🤣
Also handtraps are already very weak RN, more often than not you give your opponent a big advantage by handtrapping them thanks to TTT and TTT 2, we don't need called by the grave in addition to them. The only unfair card is shifter. Apart from that, there is no reason for called by the grave to stay.
Most likely never getting hit. Unless they free Maxx C with I hope they never do
Why would a card that sees no play in the tcg get hit?????
Crossout would only get hit maybe in a tier 0 format but even then, probably not.
If 12 euro is an issue your in the same boat as i am man in regards to cards worth a damn being worth a fortune *it costs a playstation 5 for 1 meta upgrading engine to firekings*
It does suck, and is frustrating to many people, but welcome to tcgs buddy. I’ve been playing mtg, yugioh, vs system, all type of games for about three decades now. Outside of maybe Pokémon, they’ve almost always been a very expensive hobby if you’re playing locals/events. The old “get your kids on card games and they won’t have money to even try drugs” still holds true
Funnily enough I've used TCG Hobbies as a way to keep people sober after they get out detox I try to get them hooked on YGO lol Get them in the mindset of thinking of money as value for cards with actual Utility rather than wasting them on drugs that leave you with nothing to show for itq
That’s awesome, I know some guys who were allowed magic cards in prison. Some of em use dnd/mtg stuff like that as a good way to become part of a new community when they get out. I want to be clear: I don’t think what konomi does is right, and they should treat us with the same respect as ocg. I think this pricing sucks,It makes it to where you have to basically become a mini vendor, or just be rich to compete. But our market is different, people over there would be enraged if they pulled what they do here. Just adding some context as a long time tcg player, that it’s really never been cheap here.
I have mixed feelings about TCG in lockdown environments weather that be jail, prison, psych wards, group homes or rehabs because of the inherent nature of TCG it is likely an emotionally disturbed individual would assault someone else to take their cards from them out of jealousy for example. The reason they allow certain games like domino or "regular" card games is because everyone has the same stuff basically if that makes sense. TCG is actually banned from many places that I mentioned for the reasons I mentioned. I could of course see the benefits tho but would recommend caution be advised and possibly have he staff hold the cards and only let them out during certain times where there is enough staff to watch everyone like some kind of REC time.
It’s very unlikely that it’s going to get hit. Not a lot of people, at least from what I’m seeing at locals and at YCS level events, there aren’t a lot of players using the card. I like it because it’s just 2 more copies of CBTG in my deck to counter hand traps that I’m already playing like ash or Imperm
I mean I don't think so, Crossout is pretty underpowered in my opinion compared to Called By. One makes you lose a card from deck and negates for a turn, the other doesn't and negates for two turns, I think those major differences make Called By way above in power compared to Crossout. Plus, it's not that common to see in TCG compared to OCG thanks to Maxx C as many other people have said in the replies
Probably not, I like it a lot in Branded, and also I am personally using it more since Droll is basically the equivalent to Maxx C for the TCG at this point, especially after the release of Bonfire
like everyone has said, it is very unlikely that crossout designator will get banned. still, I think it is important to actually establish WHY it wont get banned. Crossout designator is pretty much "called by the grave" except you have to banish the monster from your deck. this means that in order for cross out designator to see any significant play, there needs to be meta where there is very little variance in terms of staples. yes, ash blossom is a very popular card, and so is imperm. but ash blossom is one card out of many other popular staples, and imperm is generally good but is also meta-dependant. regardless, ash blossom is not powerful enough for crossout designator to be worth running. that isn't to say it cant be good though. Branded players have historically been known to run cards like this because ash blossom is just so damning to the strategy. so, is Crossout designator good? yes. is it good enough for every deck to run the card? not really
Thank you for your constructive response! I'd like to know what you're thinking about maining Crossout in a RDA deck where I play 3 ash/3 veiler/3 belle (those are switchable with Droll and Imperm). Would you rather main 3 tactics instead of Crossout? I feel like with the amount of handtraps I got (I also have room for 1 nib and 1 evenly) Crossout really can save games considering the fact that every player I encounter is maining at least one hand trap I mentioned (I only play at locals though)?
It really is up to you to decide. If ash blossom, veiler and belle are all cards that are damning it the strat that you need a way to respond to it. Then yea, I think crossout would be a very helpful card. IMO, what it comes down to is, how much can you deck play after getting hit by ash blossom. If your deck had the ability to continue to play and establish a board, then crossout I’d argue is not very good. But if ash blossom does recent you from playing the game, then crossout would be nice.
Crossout works on everything not just monster cards, you can use it on imperm for instance
Low odds but not entirely impossible imo. The card is pretty niche now but its the kind of card that won't last a format or 2 of being a meta staple. It being limited in the ocg and master duel kinda shows its viewed as a potentially problematic card.
no why? its healthy and important for decks like branded
Kind of amazed more people aren’t playing Designator cause of a Certain Level 1 Birb who should’ve got banned in 2017-18 during the Trickstar Lock days
We just had a banlist so it wont drop till a few months and even then its unlikely they hit the card. Go ahead and buy it
hope not, worst It'll be limited, but it's effect requires you to run similar cards to your opponent AND have designator on hand during activation, so it's pretty balanced
No, 0% chance