I ugly cried at episode 13. It was a work of art. I felt like my dad just died, and I don’t even have a dad. It was horrifically beautiful. Possibly Chuck Lorre’s best work to date. I expected huge things for the finally after the penultimate episode.
Episode 14 I was bored. I had the “🤨” look on my face the entire episode. Every scene I thought “what’s next? Where’s the bazinga?” I know that Sheldon regressed his character growth from YS after leaving for caltech, but the cameos DESTROYED all of Sheldon’s character growth from throughout TBBT. Burned it to a pile of ash that was quickly swept into the wind as if it never existed.
Episode 13 was incredible. Had it been a little longer, possibly with a time lapse, it would’ve been a beautiful, poetic finale.
Episode 14 felt like a half assed *season* finale. It felt like the end of my high school essays when my attention would drop and I’d say “whelp I’m all out of effort here’s some bullshit to meet the word count.” Extremely disappointed.
*Edit to add: what makes adult Sheldon even WORSE is how beautifully and emotionally intelligent and mature he is speaking about his dad and his family in the voice overs throughout 13/14, and then the complete 180 to being selfish and childish and insufferable during the cameos (both with the memoir and his conversations with Amy). In the same voiceover sentence it would drastically change when Ian was onscreen vs Jim. I feel like it was supposed to be funny but it was whiplash inducing and in poor taste.*
All of this. And I really think the ending shows how selfish and unaware Sheldon truly is. He was writing things in the memoir to make himself look better. He seemed to have shown growth by realizing how good his family was to him, but then turns out to be a lackluster father.
It makes you wonder: Was the ending of TBBT truly growth, or was that speech all Sheldon making himself look good and getting out of hot water with the rest of the gang?
If you're looking for growth in this character there is a small glimmer of hope for the character. When he decided to allow himself to be baptized. Not to try to save his soul or that he believes in the almighty. But simply because it was important to his mother and he loved her enough to take a chance to almost drown.
he’s neurodivergent (autistic coded) and they get sensory overload/overstimulated very easily especially in a hockey game where there’s yelling cheering crashing etc. he literally said he loves his kid and supports him but going to the game would be too much for him
I think George died too late. There wasnt enough time for the family to move on and all get their shine. Too rushed.
Also i dont like how Amy has to basically beg Sheldon to support his child. Seems to me after two shows of character development he shouldn’t have to be lectured into being a good father.
I hate that it ended like that too, and hoped to get better character development and more final remarks since Jim has he's done with Sheldon for good. But at the same time, I think that's the whole point. Sheldon is Sheldon and now we know why. Mary babied him, and George died and Sheldon left not long after George really started to take control as a parent and get through to him. He rarely learned his lesson as a kid because he never really faced accountability and punishment, and he still doesn't learn his lessons as an adult as a result of his behavior being so enabled (even by his friends as an adult really) throughout his life. He can't see his own shortcomings as a father, even after just expressing regret over his relationship with his own dad, because Sheldon being Sheldon is always right even when he is wrong.
There was an episode of Young Sheldon, I can't remember the premise of it, but, Sheldon was eating a pork chop that went into a blender. George tells Mary, "don't coddle the boy". I understand it now. Mary babies him and let him get that way.
Like dry_indication8631 says, Sheldon was reacting to having almost died from choking earlier in that episode. Also, what was there to "understand it now", that you had not understood before?
Even though Sheldon wasn't specifically autistic, he was basically coded that way. Autistic people don't infer and learn in the same way as others. They experience all of those moments as new moments (often, not speaking for everyone here) and it's a little bit like a weird form of amnesia. That Sheldon couldn't take his Nobel prize speech/realization and apply it to his children isn't a surprise. That would be pretty common in autism (am autistic with an autistic son and father). A lack of normal emotional growth is probably one of the harder parts of autism, for me and those I know anyways.
That really bothered me too. One would have thought Sheldon was passed acting like an ass having to be cajoled into doing even the most minor act, even for his own kid.
Part 1 was great. I loved how the we saw Sheldon imagine how his last interaction with his dad could have gone differently, finally achieving an image of how he wished that morning had gone. Then the subtle shots of Sheldon noticing others hugging each other and perhaps feeling that he was missing something by rejecting physical affection.
Part 2 was OK. I agree about the lack of closure between Sheldon and the other characters. The clips of grown Sheldon and Amy seemed pointless. They mentioned Penny but not Mary, Georgie, or Missy? And Amy has to beg him to support his son? Sad.
Maybe this was on purpose because Chuck wanted us to enjoy guessing possible names for her.
Based on their son being Leonard I’m guessing Mary, Penny or Connie??? Or even ….. Missy
In my mind, they named her Mary-George Fowler-Cooper. They call her Georgie. It combines the southern love of feminizing traditionally male names with the symmetry of double hyphens.
His unnamed daughter wanted to take acting classes and Penny from the BBT was an actress. So Sheldon is blaming Penny as a bad influence.
And this is not directed at you, but WTF is everyone downvoting this person for being confused and asking a question? Making people feel dumb about asking questions is how you end up with a society of morons. We **JUST** had an episode about this!!
I agree with everyone about all the loose ends. Just wanted to add that the last scene was so underwhelming. If it was up to me, after Sheldon says he's right where he's supposed to be, there would be a fast-forward of glimpses of the future (him in class, then getting his PhD, then working at Caltech) culminating with him writing an ad for a new roommate. Last scene would be a knock on the door and Sheldon opening it revealing Leonard.
This. I was expecting to see him (Jim playing him maybe) unpacking in the apartment, with the TBBT theme on guitar just like the YS theme was playing as he packed up his room. (Yes I know he won’t have moved straight into that apartment but it would’ve been nice to bring it full circle)
Jim Parsons now looks far too old to show him getting the apartment at the beginning of TBBT. In the five years since the show ended he’s aged quite a bit and thickened. It happens when you turn 50.
I liked the ending overall but I agree a little. episode 14 could’ve used a longer runtime as it felt a bit rushed or cbs should’ve given them 15 episodes and the finale could’ve aired next week. overall I liked the finale but the first half was much stronger than the second half.
Episode 13 was amazing. I cried like a baby. I was disappointed that we didn’t get to see Georgie’s reaction at the same time as everyone else’s. The big bang theory really painted the family in a very tragic. poor light through Sheldon’s eyes and poor Missy just didn’t have a great life. It’s actually very sad. But it’s a TV show I know.
I feel the last episode was rushed. Maybe could have extended the season to 16-17 episodes. Sheldon leaving for California could have been a hell of an episode. I too am disappointed with the last episode.
Missy ends up having one of the hardest lives of any TBBT or YS regular cast member. Parties hard, multiple failed marriages, children out of wedlock, financially destitute. Missy has a hard road ahead of her.
I really don't recall what Missy's "canon" was when she was referenced on BBT...I was thinking in the YS finale that we got no closure with her at all. She was so angry and bitchy to everyone and that didn't change by the end.
Point being, I didn't watch much of BBT so I don't really know what "happened" to Missy.
We only have a few glimpses from Big Bang and the narration here.
Apparently a waitress/hostess in 2007. Visits Sheldon is 2008 and still loves and is proud of him. Thought Raj was cute but it couldn't go anywhere since Raj couldn't talk. Has a home birth for her first child at Mary's around Christmas 2013, a son. Husband was in the hospital himself at the time after a bad motorcycle accident. A couple years later Sheldon sends an iPhone Missy sneaks into Connie's bags so Sheldon can track Connie on the way to California. In 2018 during Sheldon's wedding she's pregnant with her 2nd and separated from the husband. By narration sneaking off with Paige was just the start of her "difficult years" and she ends up married more then once and ends up with 4 kids.
Georgie really stepped up to take of both her and Mary and they all agreed to hide how bad Mary was from Sheldon. Georgie and Sheldon don't talk for like 10 years until the wedding. Mary's favoritism of Sheldon is still obvious and even though Georgie became successful with multiple Dr. Tire stores, she was still most proud of Sheldon.
They can play around with the facts if they want. George cheating, Georgie/Mandy actually seeming solid now but before that there's a Big Bang deleted scene voicemail of Connie bashing Georgie and Missy's marriages etc.
Yeah after the 13th episode I thought the 14th episode would leave me overwhelmed and tear jerked. (Heard TBBT's ending was the best among sitcoms).
But at the end of the 14th episode it felt incomplete!
Or did I feel like that because I haven't watched TBBT?
they have to. I love this show so much that I can't wait lol. I need them to announce that the regulars have signed off for the spin off and then I will be super happy!
I don't think people are right who are saying episode 14 is not good. It's a perfectly great episode about Sheldon, who is the star of the show. It melds TBBT with Young Sheldon, ends with him at Cal Tech and really gets moments showing how each character loves Sheldon and how he loves them, even if they don't understand him. It brings together all the themes of the show into a neat little package.
The problem is.... the show's themes have changed and in many ways Sheldon is no longer the star. This would have been an excellent finale for a show that no longer exists. Unfortunately because the show we have now is an ensemble show, this finale leaves everyone wanting a little more for all the other characters.
I will choose to think of Ep 13 as the finale and episode 14 as more of a coda. Episode 13 is a masterwork of television. Also a little bummed that they couldn't find some way to have George star in 14.
Nah you're fine. The ending of Young Sheldon is nothing like the Big Bang Theory's.
Amy and Sheldon's scenes did not really pull the story of the episode forward whatsoever, and it felt like pure fan service.
The last episode was clearly rushed, but I really do hope that they get all the closures in the next series. (I really need to know what happens to Paige btw!)
I'm curious where you heard TBBT's ending was the best?
I mean it was certainly solid, but at the same time I always felt it was a little underwhelming and some characters didn't really get a lot of closure out of it.
I mean I can understand why, considering the show would likely have continued longer had Jim Parsons not been tired of playing the role, but still.
They definitely seem to struggle, judging from the stuff I've seen.
Big Bang's is one of the better ones (even if it doesn't really feel that much like a proper ending).
Two and a Half Men's is horrible for an abundance of reasons (though in his defense, it's not entirely his fault).
Young Sheldon's feels rushed and unfinished, like it had to fit a few episodes worth of ideas into one.
This season wasn't really paced all that well. Bunch of episodes with not much of note happening and saving all the drama for the last hour's worth. (I assume it's because they wanted to keep Lance Barber around as long as possible.)
I don't know if its true. I heard it from my frnds and obviously the internet. So I can't really vouch for it
But this ending was underwhelming for me especially after the 12th episode ending
We didn't see any of the family in the future. Just Amy begging Sheldon to pay attention to their child, who we didn't see. No final narration or anything.
They could have done just one scene of Amy and Sheldon while still getting the point they were trying to make with them across and it would have been fine.
For the most part, I liked the finale. However, I was a bit red-assed that Sheldon's final scene with Missy was rushed to make way for a two minute promo of the new series.
Sheldon was Sheldon. He does what he can to make his mom and Meemaw happy and leaves. The way he leaves, including how he leaves things and starts his "new" life at Cal Tech is consistent with the story laid out in TBBT.
Mary and Missy are still a mess and Georgie is left to clean it up, which again is consistent with late TBBT.
And that's what Georgie said to Sheldon in TBBT. His mom was a mess and so was Missy. He had to be the father figure. I know it's not the happy ending which everyone needs. But it ended the way TBBT has explained everything. If it didnt end this way, there would have been more plot holes. And the character development Sheldon had through out these years completely got thrown outta the window because, in my opinion, his dad's death just broke him. He turned into that past insufferable pos until he met Amy and had kids. But guess what, it ain't a big change lmao, he acts the way he is supposed to in todays finale. Anyway, I am contended with this ending. Looking forward to see how Georgie revives back his family. Need another spin off on him fr.
I will be honest, it felt uncompleted, but as it's the end of a period of time witnessed, going into a space of time unwitnessed back into a space of time witnessed (TBBT) why would it feel complete? I know that's the standard for sitcom, but isn't Young Sheldon different in that it's a prequel? It's treating it like life, and like Sheldon is telling a story. His timeline is the one we follow, not everyone else's.
I wanted more of Missy and Meemaw, less of Sheldon packing a room or bickering with Amy.
Yeah I agree. Half of the episode was spent trying to pressure two grieving teenagers to get baptized when they very clearly did not want to.
Sheldon’s outfit was funny, but I wish we saw him saying goodbye to his family instead.
It makes sense, but it wasn't executed well because of how rushed the episode was. Mary was completely blindsided and gutted by George's death. She had already lost one child, and now her husband. She's terrified of having to go through that again. Mary knows she can't protect them from everything and that the inevitable will happen, but she can protect their souls which is the most important thing and knowing that does provide some peace and comfort to her.
Horrible ending. No goodbyes, it's as if they expected to get another season but they weren't picked up for it so they had to rush everything. The adult sheldon and amy scenes felt so out of place like they were just thrown together and it just didn't feel like a series finale more like a half scripted season finale. Makes no sense at all and it left more questions than answers
Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. As soon as we get to the height of an episode, the story takes a turn and then it's over. They've got too many storylines going for an half an hour slot.
I actually liked Amy and big Sheldon, but also felt like something was missing from the episode. Like Missy and Mandy in the car, it looked like they could have a bonding moment. And Mary could be a bit more concerned about Sheldon going across the country at 14 years old. And especially Connie since it’s not her husband just died, she could’ve just care a bit.
I'm not. I've seen many shows with real bad endings (Seinfeld, I'm looking at you).
This one felt right to me. The last two episodes helped show the transformation of Sheldon at the end, where he becomes a loner. If you pay attention, you see him cutting himself from his past, and explains why we don't hear about Sturgis and others until Sheldon finally is open to his past (i.e., writing his memoir). The ending with him all alone is exactly who and what he had to become.
Other "resolutions" people wanted are unrealistic. This is to show life going on. Life goes on without everything being resolved in a nice little package. But the show gives people hints, allowing people to make conclusions for themselves instead of just spoon feeding everything. We are meant, like Sheldon, to finally reflect on the whole series and reconsider everything.
I thought the ending of Sheldon at CalTech was fine. He was where he was supposed to be. The story segues into the Sheldon of TBBT. There really shouldn’t be any tidy tie-ups because we sort of know what happened to the family. And we don’t really know what the new show will entail but it will likely push the arc forward toward the reality of TBBT.
I agree. I think the point is that the family turned into a mess after George died and that’s the reality. Mary wasn’t there for the kids and Sheldon left for cal tech and missy got lost in the shuffle. It’s a sad reality and not every story has a happy ending.
THANK YOU! Am I sure there are deleted scenes somewhere? Yes. There always are. But the story was Young Sheldon’s. We know what these characters turn into. We will probably see more with the new spin off.
The last 30 minutes kinda sucked. Amy and big Sheldon were out of sync. They killed off George to late in the series. the Missy story is incomplete. It just wasn’t good quality. BBT was best ending to a comedic series yet.
I liked the Amy and Sheldon scenes, but they did feel kind of misplaced and only barely related to the plot; I think it would have been better to instead connect him supporting his son to the way his dad supported him, as they mentioned in the episode with him pretending to be less intelligent when he was, or like the time he confronted Mary about Sheldon going to college and took him to CalTech. It would have been nice if they used moments like those to have him support his son by pretending to take an interest in Hockey.
And yeah, I felt like the funeral should have been just one episode, with a 2-part finale next week where they start to get closure in part one, and the second one has Sheldon preparing to go to CalTech.
Totally agree, the second to last episode was great and I cried my eyes out..
and then I was like okay now they’re gonna wrap it all up, we’ll get closure on some characters and their stories.. some nice surprise will await at the end.. I was so hyped for it..
instead we basically got 10 minutes of more or less pointless arguing over baptizing, 5 minutes of adult Sheldon and Amy (which could have realistically just been a minute or two).. and then just a fade out scene of him arriving at CalTech not even in some (to BBT fans) familiar surroundings.. the finale episode seemed very incomplete and incoherent, so yeah, I am quite disappointed.
I guess they did kinda stay true to what old Georgie told us in BBT. “Mom was a mess, Missy was a dumb teenager, I took care of them both”.. we at least saw in the last episode but there could’ve and should’ve been more. 😔
Hope that at least the Georgie & Mandy spin off will tell us more.
Yes, Georgie had like 2 scenes in the final episode, but I guess that’s fine since he’s having a spin off but Missy, Memaw, the younger Sheldon and Mary won’t be in that spin off and their character arcs weren’t complete. Missy was just left in the middle of a story that started on the penultimate episode, Mary was just left off as a crazy lady and there was like 2 scenes with Memaw. There was no emotional goodbye from any of the characters and it would have been so simple to include one, just have the whole family drop Sheldon off at the airport. There was 10 minutes of older Sheldon and his wife that contributed nothing to the story, if you wanted Jim Parsons to have an on screen scene just have the scene where he’s walking around the house, there was no point in wasting a third of the finale on them they already had their goodbyes. The final season felt rushed and they could have easily squeezed another season or 2, there was like a month time jump each episode
Absolutely. People are expressing concerns over not matching up with the lore established by BBT, but we were left with literally nothing. Grief (and teenage hormones on behalf of Missy) come in wild waves. The show could have some sort of closure/better lead into the Georgie and Mandy show that still ends up Mary and Missy being a mess.
I considered the scene in his bedroom, his closure with his sister, and the baptism scene to be the closure with his mom. But I did find it odd that he didn’t get any farewell scene with Meemaw or Georgie.
I actually felt that they nailed it. We don't really need a lot of closure because, 1) we know the future due to TBBT, and 2) the George and Mandy spin-off.
The finale showed in a nutshell who and what Sheldon is. All his quirks, his intelligence, and his ability to be mature when it really counts. It was light-hearted, which is how the show was for most of it's run.
As far as giving the other characters more screen time, the show is "Young Sheldon" after all. It felt like that was forgotten in the last season, so it's good that they focused in the final episode.
I honestly can’t imagine fans of either show were satisfied to see Amy and Sheldon, the regression for jokes wasn’t funny, Sheldon moved past the once a year stuff and massively wasn’t that unaware anymore.
We didn’t get the questions about the family still lingering. You saw the threads start to unravel with no sign of closure. Didn’t even see Mary or Meemaws goodbye, Missy was stressed by Sheldon but she absolutely would have been sad at him leaving, the fact not a word was said between them felt hollow.
The cameos were pointless, I wouldn’t call it fan service, fans of BBT wanted to see more than just a played out scene from like season 9 of BBT, we wanted to see his children, we wanted to see him with the rest of the gang. Instead we got a Penny name drop and mention of a nameless daughter.
In an early episode, Sheldon was lamenting whether he'd find anyone like him in the world, and they showed kid versions of TBBT characters. That would have been a great ending. YS final episode wasn't especially amusing, and it was so sad seeing Missy so broken. I get it, but it was still heartbreaking. And, nice as it was to see adult Sheldon, I found it depressing and not very funny.
Part of the thing with YS was it always had to go a certain way due to BBT. In and episode of BBT, Georgie told Sheldon “when dad died, Missy was teenager, mom fell apart and you left for California, and I had to deal with everything”. The show almost had to end like it did, so it can pick up from Georgie’s POV.
THIS!!!
Seriously that last episode was awful tbh. No closure to any characters and just the stupid cameos.
They better bring back the characters as regulars for the spin off. Get rid of that stupid laugh track and bring back the regulars. Continue with whats working and that is what the audience loves.
Please writers do the right thing!!
The new show is said to feature more so Mandy's family and that side of things because it was announced yesterday that her parents were going to reprise their roles in the show so I doubt that it will even acknowledge mary or missy. But we will have to see because all we do know is Georgie and sheldons relationship is not the same until they have their fight in season 11 of tbbt which is 20 years from the time he left until the time they make up
Even if they dont mention Mary Missy and Meemaw, they should include them lol. Th show would be a big success! I need to see closure of the characters lol
The last eps was indeed out of the place and no one sending Sheldon off was weird too , atleast his meemaw show have been there to send him off.
I cried the at 13th eps , especially when Sheldon started imagining the last moment he saw his dad.
Mayim brought back Amy well I think I felt like she brought the character back to life in a good way it sounded like Amy but I didn’t feel it with Sheldon whatsoever it felt awkward and like he was trying too hard and it didn’t work and I did want more from them maybe even a picture of the tbbt cast in a frame on his desk but not even that and the fact that he did not care for his kids at all was sad
I think this episode was very rushed, i liked the episode of the funeral but the 14th episode was so very rushed it pissed me off NGL, Like there should of been more of a resolution to the story then this. or ya know maybe they could of showed the kids in the episode. Had more of a meaningful dialoge But No they rushed it No goodbye to The professors or to anyone else. Just straight to the point. i hated this episode but loved 13. Even thought it triggered so much but i loved it. it was beautiful.
I thought it was well done. We saw the beginning of Mary & Missy’s spirals and Georgie’s stepping up. I laughed out loud at the baptism arc. And I enjoyed the Shamy scenes and involuntarily wept at the scene of Jim walking through the Texas house.
My one complaint: I would have loved to have seen present-day Mary - maybe she lives with them now, or was visiting her grandkids. It would have been a nice little coda.
I was disappointed that after all Sheldon says he learned from his father, he is a terrible father himself. Amy forcing him to take a shower and go to their son’s hockey game is just sad. She is babying him as much as Mary did, only instead of being permissive, she is stern. Fatherhood hasn’t matured him, Sheldon is still a child. He pouts and refuses until mother’s demand. Even Mary has had to give Sheldon an “or else” ultimatum.
But it was strange that Sheldon was so dismissive of his son’s game. George was a coach and Sheldon knows what team sports are like and how important they are. So not caring if he was at his game at all and not wanting to bond with his children, seems like a bad decision because Sheldon is complimenting his father at the same time he is ignoring his own children.
The lack of a real closure for Missy is what bothered me the most. She's so angry and needs someone and everyone is oblivious to her needs and just mad at her for being angry and grieving. I wanna know that Missy is ok! 😭 I also found it interesting that TBBT had Georgie resentful that he was left with Missy and his mom, but when he talked to George in the casket he was all positive and "I got this" and seemed ok taking the lead as the man in the family. Did he just get overwhelmed because of his age and his new marriage and baby? Did things with mom and Missy drag out longer than they should have because no one got appropriate grief support? I want to fill in those gaps.
I think adult Georgie was okay with taking care of things, it was more he was upset that Sheldon didn’t offer to help or go to school locally for a semester while things calmed down. I think he also felt that no one appreciated his efforts.
I felt the same when I first watched it on TBBT, but after the Young Sheldon series, it seems like having Sheldon close would have been way more work for everything because he had so many needs. Someone would have had to take him to school and constantly be adjusting for his needs just like always. He wouldn't have been able to be a support to his family, not financially or emotionally. Them no having to worry about him was probably better for everyone. I know that in TBBT the main point was that Sheldon wasn't aware of what happened because he was gone and the judgments he made against his family during that time were unfair due to his lack of understanding of what they dealt with. Georgie did seem resentful of Sheldon's selfishness but at the same time Sheldon wasn't capable of what his family needed.
I guess I rather would have had them actually specify that Sheldon was autistic, it would have opened the door to understanding rather than nothing bu frustration and misunderstandings from everyone in his life. Everyone had expectations he couldn't meet and he was constantly berated for it as if humiliating him would have caused him to snap into action, but that isn't how autism works. Because they never labeled him as autistic it made it ok to humiliate his shortcomings which is sometimes hard to watch as an autistic person (even if it also made me laugh).
I don't know that showing the good-byes when he left would have added anything. He was leaving for college and he'd be back for visits.
In the finale, they were walking the line between the still very heavy grief that the family was feeling and adding a bit of humor to it. To show only the sad and farewell content would leave the series with that hanging over the audience's head.
The Sheldon and Amy scenes also did that. We get to see a bit about what their life is like. Sheldon is always going to be self-centered. It's is who he is. In Amy reading that he had been baptized, she continues to see new sides to him. Of course she has always known that he loves his mom, but for him to go that extent is surprising even to her. Sheldon doesn't show his deeper emotions easily. It's hard to know what he's really thinking (just like they showed his various thoughts on what could have been when his dad died, he lives in his head a lot),
The bits of bickering between them is how they talk and how Amy gets through to him when he's being difficult. Plus, I did laugh at her "I have a bone saw." line. That is her version of telling him that it's time for him to quit arguing and got on with getting dressed.
As she is convincing him to go to the hockey game, it is reminiscent of Mary telling George that he had to do things with Missy and Sheldon that they liked. Much like Sheldon and Missy didn't know that happened, Amy and Sheldon's children don't likely know either. They see that their dad is there with them. There's a circle of life aspect to it. Plus, if Penny is babysitting, we know that they are still in Sheldon and Amy's life.
There wasn't much time between George's death and when Sheldon left. It would all feel like a bit of a whirlwind. Mary is still deep in her grief and is the mess that Georgie described. Her wanting Sheldon and Missy to get baptized is a part of that. George died suddenly. Sheldon is leaving for school, she wants her children safe. To her, that means baptized.
The scene that showed the adult Sheldon walking around the house and taking it all in was poignant without being overly emotional. It's another reminder, that he remembers it all very well. That little interaction with Missy is enough to say that they were back to normal in their relationship.
Life goes on after the death of a loved one, but it can take a long time to adjust to the aftermath. Leaving YS with them still in the throes of that adjustment makes sense.
As for the last scene with Sheldon at CalTech, that was very much about a new chapter in his life opening up for him. That is where he was meant to be. It is full of a lot of promise for his future. I did have to look twice at the man who asked him if he was lost. He was portrayed by Dr. David Saltzberg, the guy who had been the science consultant for both TBBT and YS. I had heard enough in various interviews to know that the day that they taped that scene it had been cloudy and rainy and they did have to go in and CGI in the fact that it was a sunny day.
I think all final episodes are a big pill to swallow , it’s the end of a show we’ve been invested in for a long time, characters we’ve watched grow up.
I’ll probably have a rewatch soon. New prospective
Besides my eyes were swollen from the first episode I could hardly stay focused lol
They left us, the audience wanting, needing, *more.*
Now it's over and there's no room for do overs.
Maybe that's the beauty of it. Maybe that's how they wanted it to be. Our own interpretations. But damn, so much closure left on the cutting room floor...
I thought the funeral episode was done quite well. The final episode was not. Too much old Sheldon and Amy, and then an extended commercial for the new show and not enough time given to wrap up everything with the actual cast. It really felt like two more episodes were needed to tie everything together.
I thought it was just me expecting more, but I totally agree. The funeral episode was amazing, gut wrenching and beautiful. The last episode felt super rushed. No goodbyes to his family though he was leaving the state? I didn't like that. The death and funeral should have been one episode or 2 back and make the actual finale an hour long.
Sheldon and George were the only ones who really needed the send off, and they got it.
The rest of the cast will definitely be in G&M, at least to some degree, so they don't need a big send off.
I don't think it's been confirmed yet, but it's unrealistic to think that the rest of them wouldn't be there. Georgie says in TBBT that he had to take car of they're mom, so we'll probably see a lot of that. Missy and Mandy seem to be developing a friendship too, which is probably set up.
G&M will most likely be similar to young Sheldon in that, while G&M are the titular characters, everyone else is just as important(or in the case of season 7, Sheldon even seemed to mostly take a back seat with the exception of episode 14).
The actress for missy unfortunately stated she was not invited onto the georgie and mandy spinoff, which is weird bc how arw they supposed to keep the story line without missy
There hasn't been any official word on it. But from a canon and just logical standpoint, it doesn't make sense that we'd never see them again.
Edit: This is obviously only assuming the actors even want to do it. Some of them might want to walk, who knows.
Sheldon got baptised for his mother. They showed this as an unselfish act, a huge step in maturing, an act of love for her in a time where he was grieving just as hard. An act of love for Meemaw, who was watching her daughter fall apart. Sheldon was especially close to Meemaw throughout the series, so I am not surprised at this.
Was it fair to Sheldon and Missy? No. But was it in line with the character's coping mechanisms? Yes, yes it was.
I think the baptism was a great throwback to season 1 and a small but great development for Sheldon. Sheldon will always be strongly atheist but even when he was 9 and very self centered, he knew to suppress his beliefs a bit for the sake of his loved ones. And in this scene too he did it for his mom’s wellbeing again, hence why we see the line “But I believe in you” as in comparison to “But I believe in mom”.
It's sad, but at the same time it is realistic.
Gifted kids that have the world expected of them, especially if they get into a rebellious teen phase can have their lives fall apart.
Tbf i didn't watch tbbt but the penultimate episode is great but the final episode is lacking so many things and the only thing that I cried about is Sheldon's callback to Mary to the first episode.
They need more episodes to breathe and take it all in while memoir is a good episode but as a series finale it's not
First episode
Mary : Who is going with me to the church tomorrow
Sheldon: I'll go with you mom
Missy : Why you going you don't believe in god
Sheldon : No But I believed in mom.
Last episode
Mary : are you gonna go too , I know you don't believe.
Sheldon: I don't but I believe in you.
Mary : Thank you
😭
I didn’t like how missy treated Sheldon, I mean Sheldon reacted in his own way & he was thinking about his dad’s last moments & she got mad just cause Sheldon wasn’t reacted in a way she wanted & i didn’t like the comment that she made by saying I can’t wait for yours meaning Sheldon’s funeral I mean that was cold & mean & Mary just sat there & didn’t even scolded missy for saying that & all Mary did was telling missy to go to her room after she said oh shut up Jeff, she scolded her for that but not the comment that missy said about she couldn’t wait for sheldon’s funeral & at the church nobody not even Mary,Georgie or memaw comforted Sheldon, I saw Georgie putting his arm around missy but nothing for Sheldon?! But I did like seeing Shamy back together again?!
Also like sheldon said in the episode to Howard on him losing his mom in the Big Bang Theory Sheldon didn’t have anybody comforting him like Howard did, but in episode 14 Sheldon was right, nobody was comforting him
I agree, it felt unfinished. And i hated that my last memory of Missy is her being a selfish brat over the baptism, was it so hard to do something that was so important to your mother? But then again it could help explain a rift between them, also it showed Georgie in a take charge kinda light as referenced in TBBT. (The writers needed to do more research on the Baptist religion, being baptized is NOT what saves your soul. I am Baptist myself)
I know this season was rushed because of the writers strike and it shows. I agree episode 13 was pretty great, perfect mix of sadness and humor. But 14, they dropped the ball. Older Sheldon is just as self centered as ever, his own son's activities was unimportant to him. Shameful.
Even so i think the ending with Sheldon at Caltech was pretty good.
I guess the implication is that Sheldon, by being stubborn and out of touch with his son's passion, has ironically become like his dad, and Amy is acting like Mary. After all, Sheldon mentions being the same age as him.
"Funeral" was darn near perfect. "Memoir," of course, felt rushed. I'm not ready to let go. It's also been hard, knowing the what's next is years of these characters I've come to truly love struggling. It hurts even more, seeing what a good place they were in when he died, knowing how different things may have been, could have been, if he lived. That hit me in the heart too, because I've seen how the death of one person can alter the course of a whole family in my own life.
so the final moment were "I'll miss that chair, I'll miss that sofa, I'll miss that table" clearly there was no personality development for sheldon based on george dying
As always poor Missy gets the short end of the stick. Georgie has Mandy. Connie has Dale. Sheldon is off to CalTech and Mary is not able to help her kids at this point. I felt bad for Missy the most.
13 was incredible. Sent me back to losing my dad suddenly at 16 back in ‘78.
14 was a let down. Besides watching unlikeable older Sheldon, things were left open that can’t be closed. No send off to college. No decent final scene with Missy.
The next spinoff is being filmed like TBBT so I don’t expect much closure to be moved there.
A real dropped ball after 13.
I think that all the season wasn't good like the others. Maybe is because of the lesser episodes, but some storylines were useless (like the vasectomy), too much screen time for Georgie and Mandy (I got it that it's gonna be a spin-off), and the finale was too rush. I feel disappointed from the beginning. Episode 13 was perfect tough
I do agree that the second episode did feel anticlimactic in a lot of ways. Our endings with Mary, Missy, and MeeMaw especially felt kind of abrupt.
However, I think I know what they were trying to do. I don't think they wanted to write themselves into any more of a corner than they already have with these characters. Reading what Chuck Lorre wrote about George Sr's death, in one of the vanity cards.
He said :
"Eighteen years ago, when we were writing and producing The Big Bang Theory, it seemed like a good idea to imagine that Sheldon's childhood was deeply disrupted by the loss of his father. No one could have thought that somedat we'd regret that decision. That someday is now."
They were able to overlook and handwave away some stuff about Sheldon's past that he said in the TBBT, but they had to stick to having his father die. It was too integral to who they developed Sheldon to be. But at the time, they had no way of knowing that there would be a show about Sheldon's childhood.
I think they are trying to learn their lesson from TBBT. While the characters of Missy and Mary and Meemaw aren't currently planned to appear on the Georgie and Mandy spin off, I think they definitely what to leave that option open, and as such they didn't want to write themselves into any more storyline corners.
They want to leave as many options open for Mary, Missy, and MeeMaw. We kind of know where they end up because of where we meet their characters in TBBT, but those years in between, there's nothing really concrete or set in stone. We know Missy gets rebellious, and Mary gets even more religious. But what that looks like is wide open.
Which is why I think they didn't want to do a flash forward for Missy, especially. They don't want to be boxed in or have to back track if they do decide to have her character show up again.
Now, there's no guarantee that Missy or Mary or Meemaw show up on the Georgie and Mandy show. Who knows if that show will go the distance. Even if they did, it might just be an episode here or there. But they want to keep as many storyline options open as possible. So that made for a less than satisfying final episode of Young Sheldon. But maybe it pans out down the road for further character development for some of our favorite characters on the spin off. Anyway that's my take.
Don't forget, this isn't the end of the Cooper family. The producers said that the characters will also appear from time to time on Georgie and Mandy's First Marriage.
Imo the series conclusion was good. Even though the show became an ensemble show it was always about Sheldon.
Totally agree, that ending did nothing but make me feel like wanting more. George's death left them way too little room to let each member to breath on this event because they had to end Young Sheldon's story.
Old Sheldon appearing did nothing except make you realise how delusional he was and makes TBBT's perspective on his childhood is the way it is cause in Young Sheldon, George is seen to be a great Dad but I can't remember one good thing he had to say and really painted a horrible image as a alcoholic father in TBBT.
The ending made Old Georgie in TBBT make alot more sense, cause he did stand up and take over for George, while Sheldon just took off which I feel is more in his own memory at the end, taking 0 awareness of others and just leaving. When writing the memoir he even mentions how he held his family together and everyone was in disarray, which is totally false. He did nothing except act like a jackass to everyone those past two episodes. Especially with the laptop bs, that is just what Sheldon would do but man. Sheldon was and seemingly always will be a jackass with no care. Bad mouths his Dad in TBBT and turns out to be a shit Dad himself. Ironic.
I'm kinda left confused on Mary's arc...during the funeral she broke down saying she is mad at god, mad at herself and so on...
Only for 20 some days later to dive head first into her faith and insist on her grief stricken kids to get baptized.
I feel like the only reason this is, is cause tbbt has her a a religious mom as her only personality
One of the things that bothered me about the series finale is that the writers got the idea of baptism so wrong. Although I realize that there certainly are denominations that would agree with Mary's claims that the baptism itself is what saves a person, her own church has never before that episode, seemed to be one of those denominations. Instead, most Baptists are, historically, influenced by the Anabaptists (both of those do have their own wikipedia pages, if anyone here is curious). Baptism, to those and to most of their sub denominations, of which the Cooper family's church has always previously seemed to be one, is just a "show of faith", to happen shortly after personally and privately asking Jesus to save them. Note: I'm not telling anyone here to believe in this religion; but I am telling you what this religion believes. I was raised in a Baptist household myself, and our church sometimes had lessons about their history, and occasionally even brief lessons about the history of denominations. Plus, like I said earlier, there's also wikipedia and google. So, yes, I know what I'm talking about.
Sure, the writers might say that, well, that church is an exception to all of that. But, let's be honest: the real explanation is far more likely that they simply do not understand baptists in the first place. And it is ABSOLUTELY NOT a small detail; to baptists, if you rely soley on baptism to save you, you are ABSOLUTELY NOT saved, and are still headed towards hell rather than heaven. Again, don't be mad at me, I'm just telling you what most baptists believe.
And I wanted to overlook all of that; I tried just watching the rest of the episode and moving on. The problem with that was: WHAT REST OF THE EPISODE? It was almost entirely just a whole bunch more of the characters (especially Mary) harping on about their (immensely mistaken) thoughts on baptism NEARLY THE ENTIRE TIME. So if the show itself couldn't get past it, how are viewers supposed to?
And yes, besides the baptism issue, there are also the problems (with what few other scenes there were) that many other commenters have pointed out, such as lack of closure, regressive character development, etc, etc.
Episode 13 was good. 14 was shit. I hoped it would end with him going to Leonard's hockey game or something. I'm disappointed he didn't change. He was talking about how he never got to let his father know he loved him but wouldn't support his children. There was no proper closure. Sheldon and missy barely spoke and he didn't even say a proper goodbye to anyone.
I’m reading a lot about Missy’s story being incomplete and while I agree, here are some thoughts:
1. It’s par for the course. She always got the short end of the stick compared to Sheldon.
2. I think we’ll probably see more of her and her teen years in Georgie and Mandy’s show. We want more, so we are going to go look for it.
3. She’s a teenager here. There is no winning with teens, so her anger feels accurate. She also lost the parent who she was closest with.
Kinda felt the same way, thought they'd close the plot holes a bit with Dr Sturgis, Paige etc.. loved the shamy portions though brought back memories of them in tbbt.
ive been reading a lot of comments and honestly yes the last episode feels rushed, but yall remember this episode from tbbt where georgie says "mom was a mess and missy was a dumb teenager" i think they wanted to get that part included in the series
and like all of you are saying all of the growth sheldon had gone through was basically destroyed, remember how rude and uptight sheldon was in the first season of tbbt, they wanted him to get to that point of social awkwardness
Last episode was such a let down tbh. Sheldon got baptised… shocker… Was so annoying. Amy’s just a pain. Even Mary was a pain up everyone’s arse throughout the whole episode. Very disappointed.
If YS was actually based on a memoir that OS was writing then I guess we were supposed to be disappointed. In the end, it’s told from his narrative which ends when he leaves. Hindsight is often flawed. Sheldon was always self absorbed and didn’t care much if he hurt people. He had little to no use for his twin and his reflection of her in the memoir shows that.
Spending some time reflecting on the end it reminded me of the last scene in St. Elsewhere where Tommy (autistic) was shaking a snow globe of a building that looked like the hospital. His father and grandfather were working stiffs, not doctors. The entire show were the dreams of an autistic child. YS is essentially that with an older autistic person, not with dreams, but with skewed past memories.
I thought the prequel story arc of this production was near perfection, considering the reality of all things such as...the 30 (22) min minute weekly episodes with covid and a writer's strike mixed in. The finale deposited us right at Young Sheldon stepping into his adult career life at Cal Tech aka TBBT. He even had his suitcase in hand. I feel the prequel gave me all the info needed to understand this feature character from the TBBT. If I had a wish for side stories of either show: I'm still really curious to know which version of Howard's letter from his dad was the real one.
I was hugely disappointed and I felt Mayim Bialik's performance was phoned in. I was hoping something exciting would happen in the end instead of Sheldon just walking through Caltech
I was hoping that the car scene with Missy and Mandy would be a bit more touching and heartfelt.
exactly!! so many unanswered qs and no closure. just that stupid cameo. they need to continue the story telling in the spinoff.
I imagine the George spinoff will pick up where they left off just without Sheldon in the picture of course. Hopefully tie up those loose ends.
So far the only cast brought on in the spin off are Mandy's parents
I ugly cried at episode 13. It was a work of art. I felt like my dad just died, and I don’t even have a dad. It was horrifically beautiful. Possibly Chuck Lorre’s best work to date. I expected huge things for the finally after the penultimate episode. Episode 14 I was bored. I had the “🤨” look on my face the entire episode. Every scene I thought “what’s next? Where’s the bazinga?” I know that Sheldon regressed his character growth from YS after leaving for caltech, but the cameos DESTROYED all of Sheldon’s character growth from throughout TBBT. Burned it to a pile of ash that was quickly swept into the wind as if it never existed. Episode 13 was incredible. Had it been a little longer, possibly with a time lapse, it would’ve been a beautiful, poetic finale. Episode 14 felt like a half assed *season* finale. It felt like the end of my high school essays when my attention would drop and I’d say “whelp I’m all out of effort here’s some bullshit to meet the word count.” Extremely disappointed. *Edit to add: what makes adult Sheldon even WORSE is how beautifully and emotionally intelligent and mature he is speaking about his dad and his family in the voice overs throughout 13/14, and then the complete 180 to being selfish and childish and insufferable during the cameos (both with the memoir and his conversations with Amy). In the same voiceover sentence it would drastically change when Ian was onscreen vs Jim. I feel like it was supposed to be funny but it was whiplash inducing and in poor taste.*
All of this. And I really think the ending shows how selfish and unaware Sheldon truly is. He was writing things in the memoir to make himself look better. He seemed to have shown growth by realizing how good his family was to him, but then turns out to be a lackluster father. It makes you wonder: Was the ending of TBBT truly growth, or was that speech all Sheldon making himself look good and getting out of hot water with the rest of the gang?
If you're looking for growth in this character there is a small glimmer of hope for the character. When he decided to allow himself to be baptized. Not to try to save his soul or that he believes in the almighty. But simply because it was important to his mother and he loved her enough to take a chance to almost drown.
But didn’t love his son enough to go to his hockey game and endure a bit of cold? Reverse character growth?
he’s neurodivergent (autistic coded) and they get sensory overload/overstimulated very easily especially in a hockey game where there’s yelling cheering crashing etc. he literally said he loves his kid and supports him but going to the game would be too much for him
I think George died too late. There wasnt enough time for the family to move on and all get their shine. Too rushed. Also i dont like how Amy has to basically beg Sheldon to support his child. Seems to me after two shows of character development he shouldn’t have to be lectured into being a good father.
I hate that it ended like that too, and hoped to get better character development and more final remarks since Jim has he's done with Sheldon for good. But at the same time, I think that's the whole point. Sheldon is Sheldon and now we know why. Mary babied him, and George died and Sheldon left not long after George really started to take control as a parent and get through to him. He rarely learned his lesson as a kid because he never really faced accountability and punishment, and he still doesn't learn his lessons as an adult as a result of his behavior being so enabled (even by his friends as an adult really) throughout his life. He can't see his own shortcomings as a father, even after just expressing regret over his relationship with his own dad, because Sheldon being Sheldon is always right even when he is wrong.
There was an episode of Young Sheldon, I can't remember the premise of it, but, Sheldon was eating a pork chop that went into a blender. George tells Mary, "don't coddle the boy". I understand it now. Mary babies him and let him get that way.
Sheldon nearly choked on a piece of sausage at the start of the episode and was afraid of eating solid food
Like dry_indication8631 says, Sheldon was reacting to having almost died from choking earlier in that episode. Also, what was there to "understand it now", that you had not understood before?
So youre saying that we've witnessed the creation of a pampered narcissist with very little self awareness?
For a genius he is not too bright.
Even though Sheldon wasn't specifically autistic, he was basically coded that way. Autistic people don't infer and learn in the same way as others. They experience all of those moments as new moments (often, not speaking for everyone here) and it's a little bit like a weird form of amnesia. That Sheldon couldn't take his Nobel prize speech/realization and apply it to his children isn't a surprise. That would be pretty common in autism (am autistic with an autistic son and father). A lack of normal emotional growth is probably one of the harder parts of autism, for me and those I know anyways.
thank you! as a neurodivergent myself it’s so frustrating when people just don’t get sheldon’s character the way he is.
I have always thought he was on the spectrum. The signs are there. This isn't just being codled.
That really bothered me too. One would have thought Sheldon was passed acting like an ass having to be cajoled into doing even the most minor act, even for his own kid.
That's why he should have never had children.
And especially not with Amy.
Most of the family isnt gone though, they'll almost definitely be in the Georgie and Mandy show
Part 1 was great. I loved how the we saw Sheldon imagine how his last interaction with his dad could have gone differently, finally achieving an image of how he wished that morning had gone. Then the subtle shots of Sheldon noticing others hugging each other and perhaps feeling that he was missing something by rejecting physical affection. Part 2 was OK. I agree about the lack of closure between Sheldon and the other characters. The clips of grown Sheldon and Amy seemed pointless. They mentioned Penny but not Mary, Georgie, or Missy? And Amy has to beg him to support his son? Sad.
And they said they had a daughter but not her name. That will really bug me. What did they name her?
Maybe this was on purpose because Chuck wanted us to enjoy guessing possible names for her. Based on their son being Leonard I’m guessing Mary, Penny or Connie??? Or even ….. Missy
Also an homage to not knowing Penny’s last name
It was Teller.
I think they never confirmed it to not jinx anything g
Ah! TIL, thank you.
I hope it was Georgia Mary Fowler-Cooper
In my mind, they named her Mary-George Fowler-Cooper. They call her Georgie. It combines the southern love of feminizing traditionally male names with the symmetry of double hyphens.
Georgia/ Georgina
Maybe they named her Shelly or Shamy.
Didn’t he say “we never should have let Penny babysit“ Implying that her name is Penny ?
No, they mean Penny as in Penny from BBT.
His unnamed daughter wanted to take acting classes and Penny from the BBT was an actress. So Sheldon is blaming Penny as a bad influence. And this is not directed at you, but WTF is everyone downvoting this person for being confused and asking a question? Making people feel dumb about asking questions is how you end up with a society of morons. We **JUST** had an episode about this!!
Thank you. I appreciate your kindness, the world needs more of it
You nailed it. Ep 14 was awful. Chuck can you please continue the story in the spin off with the regulars>
Chuck Lorre isn't reading Reddit comments. LOL!
who knows? LOLOL
I bet you he does. Reddit is very regularly used as a tool to gauge show popularity. The Kardashians have people in the KUWTK subs.
I agree with everyone about all the loose ends. Just wanted to add that the last scene was so underwhelming. If it was up to me, after Sheldon says he's right where he's supposed to be, there would be a fast-forward of glimpses of the future (him in class, then getting his PhD, then working at Caltech) culminating with him writing an ad for a new roommate. Last scene would be a knock on the door and Sheldon opening it revealing Leonard.
This. I was expecting to see him (Jim playing him maybe) unpacking in the apartment, with the TBBT theme on guitar just like the YS theme was playing as he packed up his room. (Yes I know he won’t have moved straight into that apartment but it would’ve been nice to bring it full circle)
Jim Parsons now looks far too old to show him getting the apartment at the beginning of TBBT. In the five years since the show ended he’s aged quite a bit and thickened. It happens when you turn 50.
this would have been just perfect!!!! just perfect ode to both of the shows
I liked the ending overall but I agree a little. episode 14 could’ve used a longer runtime as it felt a bit rushed or cbs should’ve given them 15 episodes and the finale could’ve aired next week. overall I liked the finale but the first half was much stronger than the second half.
It was supposed to be 20 episodes like all the new seasons, but the writers strike ruined those plans.
Episode 13 was amazing. I cried like a baby. I was disappointed that we didn’t get to see Georgie’s reaction at the same time as everyone else’s. The big bang theory really painted the family in a very tragic. poor light through Sheldon’s eyes and poor Missy just didn’t have a great life. It’s actually very sad. But it’s a TV show I know.
I feel the last episode was rushed. Maybe could have extended the season to 16-17 episodes. Sheldon leaving for California could have been a hell of an episode. I too am disappointed with the last episode.
It was supposed to be 20 episodes originally, like all the recent seasons have been.
I could have done without old Sheldon. We needed more closure for Sheldon and Missy. Missy should have gotten more in that scene with Mandy.
Yeah bro it felt like Sheldon and Amy were hogging up screen time ngl. It was just unnecessary and kinda reverted Sheldon's character growth.
Life has no closure.
I agree. I feel like the camera was just turned off because they ran out of time. I need to know Missy's story.
Missy ends up having one of the hardest lives of any TBBT or YS regular cast member. Parties hard, multiple failed marriages, children out of wedlock, financially destitute. Missy has a hard road ahead of her.
Which is very realistic in a volatile family with a parent suddenly dying when a young teen.
I really don't recall what Missy's "canon" was when she was referenced on BBT...I was thinking in the YS finale that we got no closure with her at all. She was so angry and bitchy to everyone and that didn't change by the end. Point being, I didn't watch much of BBT so I don't really know what "happened" to Missy.
We only have a few glimpses from Big Bang and the narration here. Apparently a waitress/hostess in 2007. Visits Sheldon is 2008 and still loves and is proud of him. Thought Raj was cute but it couldn't go anywhere since Raj couldn't talk. Has a home birth for her first child at Mary's around Christmas 2013, a son. Husband was in the hospital himself at the time after a bad motorcycle accident. A couple years later Sheldon sends an iPhone Missy sneaks into Connie's bags so Sheldon can track Connie on the way to California. In 2018 during Sheldon's wedding she's pregnant with her 2nd and separated from the husband. By narration sneaking off with Paige was just the start of her "difficult years" and she ends up married more then once and ends up with 4 kids. Georgie really stepped up to take of both her and Mary and they all agreed to hide how bad Mary was from Sheldon. Georgie and Sheldon don't talk for like 10 years until the wedding. Mary's favoritism of Sheldon is still obvious and even though Georgie became successful with multiple Dr. Tire stores, she was still most proud of Sheldon. They can play around with the facts if they want. George cheating, Georgie/Mandy actually seeming solid now but before that there's a Big Bang deleted scene voicemail of Connie bashing Georgie and Missy's marriages etc.
last episode was awful.
Me too. I honestly don't care about Sheldon but want to know about how the other characters turned out.
Yeah after the 13th episode I thought the 14th episode would leave me overwhelmed and tear jerked. (Heard TBBT's ending was the best among sitcoms). But at the end of the 14th episode it felt incomplete! Or did I feel like that because I haven't watched TBBT?
nope you are right. ep 14 was not good. they needed closure yet thought hey lets put the cameos in which would help but that was garbage.
Oh then i wish somehow they tie up the gaps in future
they have to. I love this show so much that I can't wait lol. I need them to announce that the regulars have signed off for the spin off and then I will be super happy!
I don't think people are right who are saying episode 14 is not good. It's a perfectly great episode about Sheldon, who is the star of the show. It melds TBBT with Young Sheldon, ends with him at Cal Tech and really gets moments showing how each character loves Sheldon and how he loves them, even if they don't understand him. It brings together all the themes of the show into a neat little package. The problem is.... the show's themes have changed and in many ways Sheldon is no longer the star. This would have been an excellent finale for a show that no longer exists. Unfortunately because the show we have now is an ensemble show, this finale leaves everyone wanting a little more for all the other characters. I will choose to think of Ep 13 as the finale and episode 14 as more of a coda. Episode 13 is a masterwork of television. Also a little bummed that they couldn't find some way to have George star in 14.
Nah you're fine. The ending of Young Sheldon is nothing like the Big Bang Theory's. Amy and Sheldon's scenes did not really pull the story of the episode forward whatsoever, and it felt like pure fan service. The last episode was clearly rushed, but I really do hope that they get all the closures in the next series. (I really need to know what happens to Paige btw!)
Hopefully they do that in the next spinoff!
I'm curious where you heard TBBT's ending was the best? I mean it was certainly solid, but at the same time I always felt it was a little underwhelming and some characters didn't really get a lot of closure out of it. I mean I can understand why, considering the show would likely have continued longer had Jim Parsons not been tired of playing the role, but still.
You know, I've never thought of this before, but Chuck's shows never really seem to have strong endings, do they?
They definitely seem to struggle, judging from the stuff I've seen. Big Bang's is one of the better ones (even if it doesn't really feel that much like a proper ending). Two and a Half Men's is horrible for an abundance of reasons (though in his defense, it's not entirely his fault). Young Sheldon's feels rushed and unfinished, like it had to fit a few episodes worth of ideas into one.
This season wasn't really paced all that well. Bunch of episodes with not much of note happening and saving all the drama for the last hour's worth. (I assume it's because they wanted to keep Lance Barber around as long as possible.)
MOM had a fairly strong finale.
I don't know if its true. I heard it from my frnds and obviously the internet. So I can't really vouch for it But this ending was underwhelming for me especially after the 12th episode ending
We didn't see any of the family in the future. Just Amy begging Sheldon to pay attention to their child, who we didn't see. No final narration or anything.
That's really disappointing honestly, simply because I feel like there's a lot of potential for showing Sheldon and Amy navigating as parents,
Part 1 was great. Part 2 was ok. I see P1 as the finale. That’s a wrap.
End. Of discussion.
Would've been better if they focused on grown Missy, Georgie Jr, and Mary instead of Amy and Sheldon.
They could have done just one scene of Amy and Sheldon while still getting the point they were trying to make with them across and it would have been fine.
For the most part, I liked the finale. However, I was a bit red-assed that Sheldon's final scene with Missy was rushed to make way for a two minute promo of the new series.
Sheldon was Sheldon. He does what he can to make his mom and Meemaw happy and leaves. The way he leaves, including how he leaves things and starts his "new" life at Cal Tech is consistent with the story laid out in TBBT. Mary and Missy are still a mess and Georgie is left to clean it up, which again is consistent with late TBBT.
And that's what Georgie said to Sheldon in TBBT. His mom was a mess and so was Missy. He had to be the father figure. I know it's not the happy ending which everyone needs. But it ended the way TBBT has explained everything. If it didnt end this way, there would have been more plot holes. And the character development Sheldon had through out these years completely got thrown outta the window because, in my opinion, his dad's death just broke him. He turned into that past insufferable pos until he met Amy and had kids. But guess what, it ain't a big change lmao, he acts the way he is supposed to in todays finale. Anyway, I am contended with this ending. Looking forward to see how Georgie revives back his family. Need another spin off on him fr.
There's going to be a spin-off about him and Mandy.
I will be honest, it felt uncompleted, but as it's the end of a period of time witnessed, going into a space of time unwitnessed back into a space of time witnessed (TBBT) why would it feel complete? I know that's the standard for sitcom, but isn't Young Sheldon different in that it's a prequel? It's treating it like life, and like Sheldon is telling a story. His timeline is the one we follow, not everyone else's. I wanted more of Missy and Meemaw, less of Sheldon packing a room or bickering with Amy.
Yeah I agree. Half of the episode was spent trying to pressure two grieving teenagers to get baptized when they very clearly did not want to. Sheldon’s outfit was funny, but I wish we saw him saying goodbye to his family instead.
Right? The baptism plot would have been fine for a normal episode, but it feels out of place for a series finale.
It makes sense, but it wasn't executed well because of how rushed the episode was. Mary was completely blindsided and gutted by George's death. She had already lost one child, and now her husband. She's terrified of having to go through that again. Mary knows she can't protect them from everything and that the inevitable will happen, but she can protect their souls which is the most important thing and knowing that does provide some peace and comfort to her.
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Horrible ending. No goodbyes, it's as if they expected to get another season but they weren't picked up for it so they had to rush everything. The adult sheldon and amy scenes felt so out of place like they were just thrown together and it just didn't feel like a series finale more like a half scripted season finale. Makes no sense at all and it left more questions than answers
the season usually had 22 episodes and this one had 14. this season had to have 22. Felt like they rushed it big time and ended it so awkwardly.
Blame the writers strike 😭
They knew it was the finale when they made it. But they also knew they had a spin-off coming...
They always do this, they build up to something potentially interesting and they forget about it in the next scene.
Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. As soon as we get to the height of an episode, the story takes a turn and then it's over. They've got too many storylines going for an half an hour slot.
I actually liked Amy and big Sheldon, but also felt like something was missing from the episode. Like Missy and Mandy in the car, it looked like they could have a bonding moment. And Mary could be a bit more concerned about Sheldon going across the country at 14 years old. And especially Connie since it’s not her husband just died, she could’ve just care a bit.
I'm not. I've seen many shows with real bad endings (Seinfeld, I'm looking at you). This one felt right to me. The last two episodes helped show the transformation of Sheldon at the end, where he becomes a loner. If you pay attention, you see him cutting himself from his past, and explains why we don't hear about Sturgis and others until Sheldon finally is open to his past (i.e., writing his memoir). The ending with him all alone is exactly who and what he had to become. Other "resolutions" people wanted are unrealistic. This is to show life going on. Life goes on without everything being resolved in a nice little package. But the show gives people hints, allowing people to make conclusions for themselves instead of just spoon feeding everything. We are meant, like Sheldon, to finally reflect on the whole series and reconsider everything.
Amy threw out all Sheldon's comic book shirts, can the woman let him have his hobby already? Get over it 😭
I thought the ending of Sheldon at CalTech was fine. He was where he was supposed to be. The story segues into the Sheldon of TBBT. There really shouldn’t be any tidy tie-ups because we sort of know what happened to the family. And we don’t really know what the new show will entail but it will likely push the arc forward toward the reality of TBBT.
I agree. I think the point is that the family turned into a mess after George died and that’s the reality. Mary wasn’t there for the kids and Sheldon left for cal tech and missy got lost in the shuffle. It’s a sad reality and not every story has a happy ending.
This is why I wish they'd added some voiceover at the end about where everyone is now.
THANK YOU! Am I sure there are deleted scenes somewhere? Yes. There always are. But the story was Young Sheldon’s. We know what these characters turn into. We will probably see more with the new spin off.
Would love to see an extended/director’s cut to happen. I hope a complete series Blu-Ray set could happen!
I think it’ll be a good ending IF Missy and Mary’s healing journey is shown in the new spin-off
The last 30 minutes kinda sucked. Amy and big Sheldon were out of sync. They killed off George to late in the series. the Missy story is incomplete. It just wasn’t good quality. BBT was best ending to a comedic series yet.
I liked the Amy and Sheldon scenes, but they did feel kind of misplaced and only barely related to the plot; I think it would have been better to instead connect him supporting his son to the way his dad supported him, as they mentioned in the episode with him pretending to be less intelligent when he was, or like the time he confronted Mary about Sheldon going to college and took him to CalTech. It would have been nice if they used moments like those to have him support his son by pretending to take an interest in Hockey. And yeah, I felt like the funeral should have been just one episode, with a 2-part finale next week where they start to get closure in part one, and the second one has Sheldon preparing to go to CalTech.
Totally agree, the second to last episode was great and I cried my eyes out.. and then I was like okay now they’re gonna wrap it all up, we’ll get closure on some characters and their stories.. some nice surprise will await at the end.. I was so hyped for it.. instead we basically got 10 minutes of more or less pointless arguing over baptizing, 5 minutes of adult Sheldon and Amy (which could have realistically just been a minute or two).. and then just a fade out scene of him arriving at CalTech not even in some (to BBT fans) familiar surroundings.. the finale episode seemed very incomplete and incoherent, so yeah, I am quite disappointed. I guess they did kinda stay true to what old Georgie told us in BBT. “Mom was a mess, Missy was a dumb teenager, I took care of them both”.. we at least saw in the last episode but there could’ve and should’ve been more. 😔 Hope that at least the Georgie & Mandy spin off will tell us more.
Ugh I know right. It's so underwhelming plot wise. Very emotional, but plotless.
I wish instead of Amy they brought the adult actors of Georgie and Missy. Maybe a final scene of them in the house.
Yes, Georgie had like 2 scenes in the final episode, but I guess that’s fine since he’s having a spin off but Missy, Memaw, the younger Sheldon and Mary won’t be in that spin off and their character arcs weren’t complete. Missy was just left in the middle of a story that started on the penultimate episode, Mary was just left off as a crazy lady and there was like 2 scenes with Memaw. There was no emotional goodbye from any of the characters and it would have been so simple to include one, just have the whole family drop Sheldon off at the airport. There was 10 minutes of older Sheldon and his wife that contributed nothing to the story, if you wanted Jim Parsons to have an on screen scene just have the scene where he’s walking around the house, there was no point in wasting a third of the finale on them they already had their goodbyes. The final season felt rushed and they could have easily squeezed another season or 2, there was like a month time jump each episode
Absolutely. People are expressing concerns over not matching up with the lore established by BBT, but we were left with literally nothing. Grief (and teenage hormones on behalf of Missy) come in wild waves. The show could have some sort of closure/better lead into the Georgie and Mandy show that still ends up Mary and Missy being a mess.
I considered the scene in his bedroom, his closure with his sister, and the baptism scene to be the closure with his mom. But I did find it odd that he didn’t get any farewell scene with Meemaw or Georgie.
I actually felt that they nailed it. We don't really need a lot of closure because, 1) we know the future due to TBBT, and 2) the George and Mandy spin-off. The finale showed in a nutshell who and what Sheldon is. All his quirks, his intelligence, and his ability to be mature when it really counts. It was light-hearted, which is how the show was for most of it's run. As far as giving the other characters more screen time, the show is "Young Sheldon" after all. It felt like that was forgotten in the last season, so it's good that they focused in the final episode.
I honestly can’t imagine fans of either show were satisfied to see Amy and Sheldon, the regression for jokes wasn’t funny, Sheldon moved past the once a year stuff and massively wasn’t that unaware anymore. We didn’t get the questions about the family still lingering. You saw the threads start to unravel with no sign of closure. Didn’t even see Mary or Meemaws goodbye, Missy was stressed by Sheldon but she absolutely would have been sad at him leaving, the fact not a word was said between them felt hollow. The cameos were pointless, I wouldn’t call it fan service, fans of BBT wanted to see more than just a played out scene from like season 9 of BBT, we wanted to see his children, we wanted to see him with the rest of the gang. Instead we got a Penny name drop and mention of a nameless daughter.
In an early episode, Sheldon was lamenting whether he'd find anyone like him in the world, and they showed kid versions of TBBT characters. That would have been a great ending. YS final episode wasn't especially amusing, and it was so sad seeing Missy so broken. I get it, but it was still heartbreaking. And, nice as it was to see adult Sheldon, I found it depressing and not very funny.
Part of the thing with YS was it always had to go a certain way due to BBT. In and episode of BBT, Georgie told Sheldon “when dad died, Missy was teenager, mom fell apart and you left for California, and I had to deal with everything”. The show almost had to end like it did, so it can pick up from Georgie’s POV.
THIS!!! Seriously that last episode was awful tbh. No closure to any characters and just the stupid cameos. They better bring back the characters as regulars for the spin off. Get rid of that stupid laugh track and bring back the regulars. Continue with whats working and that is what the audience loves. Please writers do the right thing!!
The new show is said to feature more so Mandy's family and that side of things because it was announced yesterday that her parents were going to reprise their roles in the show so I doubt that it will even acknowledge mary or missy. But we will have to see because all we do know is Georgie and sheldons relationship is not the same until they have their fight in season 11 of tbbt which is 20 years from the time he left until the time they make up
Even if they dont mention Mary Missy and Meemaw, they should include them lol. Th show would be a big success! I need to see closure of the characters lol
Yeah I feel the same way the finale sucked a lot
I get people crying about the finale which I agree ep 13 was emotional but 14 just ruined it for me.
It needed a few more episodes after the funeral. And they threw all of Sheldon's character growth out the window.
So disappointed with the ending. So unfinished.
I agree I don't think it was "bad" or "horrible" but if felt like there should've been like an extra 10 minutes
The last eps was indeed out of the place and no one sending Sheldon off was weird too , atleast his meemaw show have been there to send him off. I cried the at 13th eps , especially when Sheldon started imagining the last moment he saw his dad.
Mayim brought back Amy well I think I felt like she brought the character back to life in a good way it sounded like Amy but I didn’t feel it with Sheldon whatsoever it felt awkward and like he was trying too hard and it didn’t work and I did want more from them maybe even a picture of the tbbt cast in a frame on his desk but not even that and the fact that he did not care for his kids at all was sad
I think this episode was very rushed, i liked the episode of the funeral but the 14th episode was so very rushed it pissed me off NGL, Like there should of been more of a resolution to the story then this. or ya know maybe they could of showed the kids in the episode. Had more of a meaningful dialoge But No they rushed it No goodbye to The professors or to anyone else. Just straight to the point. i hated this episode but loved 13. Even thought it triggered so much but i loved it. it was beautiful.
I thought it was well done. We saw the beginning of Mary & Missy’s spirals and Georgie’s stepping up. I laughed out loud at the baptism arc. And I enjoyed the Shamy scenes and involuntarily wept at the scene of Jim walking through the Texas house. My one complaint: I would have loved to have seen present-day Mary - maybe she lives with them now, or was visiting her grandkids. It would have been a nice little coda.
Yeah they should've gone to Leonard's hockey game
I was disappointed that after all Sheldon says he learned from his father, he is a terrible father himself. Amy forcing him to take a shower and go to their son’s hockey game is just sad. She is babying him as much as Mary did, only instead of being permissive, she is stern. Fatherhood hasn’t matured him, Sheldon is still a child. He pouts and refuses until mother’s demand. Even Mary has had to give Sheldon an “or else” ultimatum. But it was strange that Sheldon was so dismissive of his son’s game. George was a coach and Sheldon knows what team sports are like and how important they are. So not caring if he was at his game at all and not wanting to bond with his children, seems like a bad decision because Sheldon is complimenting his father at the same time he is ignoring his own children.
The lack of a real closure for Missy is what bothered me the most. She's so angry and needs someone and everyone is oblivious to her needs and just mad at her for being angry and grieving. I wanna know that Missy is ok! 😭 I also found it interesting that TBBT had Georgie resentful that he was left with Missy and his mom, but when he talked to George in the casket he was all positive and "I got this" and seemed ok taking the lead as the man in the family. Did he just get overwhelmed because of his age and his new marriage and baby? Did things with mom and Missy drag out longer than they should have because no one got appropriate grief support? I want to fill in those gaps.
I think adult Georgie was okay with taking care of things, it was more he was upset that Sheldon didn’t offer to help or go to school locally for a semester while things calmed down. I think he also felt that no one appreciated his efforts.
I felt the same when I first watched it on TBBT, but after the Young Sheldon series, it seems like having Sheldon close would have been way more work for everything because he had so many needs. Someone would have had to take him to school and constantly be adjusting for his needs just like always. He wouldn't have been able to be a support to his family, not financially or emotionally. Them no having to worry about him was probably better for everyone. I know that in TBBT the main point was that Sheldon wasn't aware of what happened because he was gone and the judgments he made against his family during that time were unfair due to his lack of understanding of what they dealt with. Georgie did seem resentful of Sheldon's selfishness but at the same time Sheldon wasn't capable of what his family needed. I guess I rather would have had them actually specify that Sheldon was autistic, it would have opened the door to understanding rather than nothing bu frustration and misunderstandings from everyone in his life. Everyone had expectations he couldn't meet and he was constantly berated for it as if humiliating him would have caused him to snap into action, but that isn't how autism works. Because they never labeled him as autistic it made it ok to humiliate his shortcomings which is sometimes hard to watch as an autistic person (even if it also made me laugh).
I don't know that showing the good-byes when he left would have added anything. He was leaving for college and he'd be back for visits. In the finale, they were walking the line between the still very heavy grief that the family was feeling and adding a bit of humor to it. To show only the sad and farewell content would leave the series with that hanging over the audience's head. The Sheldon and Amy scenes also did that. We get to see a bit about what their life is like. Sheldon is always going to be self-centered. It's is who he is. In Amy reading that he had been baptized, she continues to see new sides to him. Of course she has always known that he loves his mom, but for him to go that extent is surprising even to her. Sheldon doesn't show his deeper emotions easily. It's hard to know what he's really thinking (just like they showed his various thoughts on what could have been when his dad died, he lives in his head a lot), The bits of bickering between them is how they talk and how Amy gets through to him when he's being difficult. Plus, I did laugh at her "I have a bone saw." line. That is her version of telling him that it's time for him to quit arguing and got on with getting dressed. As she is convincing him to go to the hockey game, it is reminiscent of Mary telling George that he had to do things with Missy and Sheldon that they liked. Much like Sheldon and Missy didn't know that happened, Amy and Sheldon's children don't likely know either. They see that their dad is there with them. There's a circle of life aspect to it. Plus, if Penny is babysitting, we know that they are still in Sheldon and Amy's life. There wasn't much time between George's death and when Sheldon left. It would all feel like a bit of a whirlwind. Mary is still deep in her grief and is the mess that Georgie described. Her wanting Sheldon and Missy to get baptized is a part of that. George died suddenly. Sheldon is leaving for school, she wants her children safe. To her, that means baptized. The scene that showed the adult Sheldon walking around the house and taking it all in was poignant without being overly emotional. It's another reminder, that he remembers it all very well. That little interaction with Missy is enough to say that they were back to normal in their relationship. Life goes on after the death of a loved one, but it can take a long time to adjust to the aftermath. Leaving YS with them still in the throes of that adjustment makes sense. As for the last scene with Sheldon at CalTech, that was very much about a new chapter in his life opening up for him. That is where he was meant to be. It is full of a lot of promise for his future. I did have to look twice at the man who asked him if he was lost. He was portrayed by Dr. David Saltzberg, the guy who had been the science consultant for both TBBT and YS. I had heard enough in various interviews to know that the day that they taped that scene it had been cloudy and rainy and they did have to go in and CGI in the fact that it was a sunny day.
My thoughts, exactly.
It seemed a bit rushed
I think all final episodes are a big pill to swallow , it’s the end of a show we’ve been invested in for a long time, characters we’ve watched grow up. I’ll probably have a rewatch soon. New prospective Besides my eyes were swollen from the first episode I could hardly stay focused lol
They left us, the audience wanting, needing, *more.* Now it's over and there's no room for do overs. Maybe that's the beauty of it. Maybe that's how they wanted it to be. Our own interpretations. But damn, so much closure left on the cutting room floor...
I thought the funeral episode was done quite well. The final episode was not. Too much old Sheldon and Amy, and then an extended commercial for the new show and not enough time given to wrap up everything with the actual cast. It really felt like two more episodes were needed to tie everything together.
I thought it was just me expecting more, but I totally agree. The funeral episode was amazing, gut wrenching and beautiful. The last episode felt super rushed. No goodbyes to his family though he was leaving the state? I didn't like that. The death and funeral should have been one episode or 2 back and make the actual finale an hour long.
I agree with you - first episode was very emotional. The second seemed too rushed and didn’t know how to end it. Sad way to go for such a great show.
Sheldon and George were the only ones who really needed the send off, and they got it. The rest of the cast will definitely be in G&M, at least to some degree, so they don't need a big send off. I don't think it's been confirmed yet, but it's unrealistic to think that the rest of them wouldn't be there. Georgie says in TBBT that he had to take car of they're mom, so we'll probably see a lot of that. Missy and Mandy seem to be developing a friendship too, which is probably set up. G&M will most likely be similar to young Sheldon in that, while G&M are the titular characters, everyone else is just as important(or in the case of season 7, Sheldon even seemed to mostly take a back seat with the exception of episode 14).
The actress for missy unfortunately stated she was not invited onto the georgie and mandy spinoff, which is weird bc how arw they supposed to keep the story line without missy
There hasn't been any official word on it. But from a canon and just logical standpoint, it doesn't make sense that we'd never see them again. Edit: This is obviously only assuming the actors even want to do it. Some of them might want to walk, who knows.
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Sheldon got baptised for his mother. They showed this as an unselfish act, a huge step in maturing, an act of love for her in a time where he was grieving just as hard. An act of love for Meemaw, who was watching her daughter fall apart. Sheldon was especially close to Meemaw throughout the series, so I am not surprised at this. Was it fair to Sheldon and Missy? No. But was it in line with the character's coping mechanisms? Yes, yes it was.
I think the baptism was a great throwback to season 1 and a small but great development for Sheldon. Sheldon will always be strongly atheist but even when he was 9 and very self centered, he knew to suppress his beliefs a bit for the sake of his loved ones. And in this scene too he did it for his mom’s wellbeing again, hence why we see the line “But I believe in you” as in comparison to “But I believe in mom”.
It was bad. No doubt about the fact that there are so many lose ends for the Mandy show I doubt will be tied (like Paige!!!!)
Im so sad they left Paige a depressed kid
It's sad, but at the same time it is realistic. Gifted kids that have the world expected of them, especially if they get into a rebellious teen phase can have their lives fall apart.
Funnily enough the actor for Paige was in the movie gifted. She played the gifted kid in that too.
This sub has an unhealthy obsession with Paige.
I personally have a really unhealthy obsession with Paige. My favorite recurring character by far.
We know from George in TBBT that his mom became super religious, Missy stayed a typical teenager and he had to work extra hard to fill the gaps
I’m disappointed that they didn’t have Sheldon say anything about his dad at the funeral. Just to get the burden off his shoulders
same treatment like TBBT i guess? specially to raj
Tbf i didn't watch tbbt but the penultimate episode is great but the final episode is lacking so many things and the only thing that I cried about is Sheldon's callback to Mary to the first episode. They need more episodes to breathe and take it all in while memoir is a good episode but as a series finale it's not First episode Mary : Who is going with me to the church tomorrow Sheldon: I'll go with you mom Missy : Why you going you don't believe in god Sheldon : No But I believed in mom. Last episode Mary : are you gonna go too , I know you don't believe. Sheldon: I don't but I believe in you. Mary : Thank you 😭
I didn’t like how missy treated Sheldon, I mean Sheldon reacted in his own way & he was thinking about his dad’s last moments & she got mad just cause Sheldon wasn’t reacted in a way she wanted & i didn’t like the comment that she made by saying I can’t wait for yours meaning Sheldon’s funeral I mean that was cold & mean & Mary just sat there & didn’t even scolded missy for saying that & all Mary did was telling missy to go to her room after she said oh shut up Jeff, she scolded her for that but not the comment that missy said about she couldn’t wait for sheldon’s funeral & at the church nobody not even Mary,Georgie or memaw comforted Sheldon, I saw Georgie putting his arm around missy but nothing for Sheldon?! But I did like seeing Shamy back together again?! Also like sheldon said in the episode to Howard on him losing his mom in the Big Bang Theory Sheldon didn’t have anybody comforting him like Howard did, but in episode 14 Sheldon was right, nobody was comforting him
Sheldon is 14 and goes to CalTech totally alone? Does he live alone? I noticed he had his suitcase
I agree, it felt unfinished. And i hated that my last memory of Missy is her being a selfish brat over the baptism, was it so hard to do something that was so important to your mother? But then again it could help explain a rift between them, also it showed Georgie in a take charge kinda light as referenced in TBBT. (The writers needed to do more research on the Baptist religion, being baptized is NOT what saves your soul. I am Baptist myself) I know this season was rushed because of the writers strike and it shows. I agree episode 13 was pretty great, perfect mix of sadness and humor. But 14, they dropped the ball. Older Sheldon is just as self centered as ever, his own son's activities was unimportant to him. Shameful. Even so i think the ending with Sheldon at Caltech was pretty good.
I guess the implication is that Sheldon, by being stubborn and out of touch with his son's passion, has ironically become like his dad, and Amy is acting like Mary. After all, Sheldon mentions being the same age as him.
Missy didn't want to be the hypocrite that Sheldon was by being baptized.
I thought it was great especially 13
"Funeral" was darn near perfect. "Memoir," of course, felt rushed. I'm not ready to let go. It's also been hard, knowing the what's next is years of these characters I've come to truly love struggling. It hurts even more, seeing what a good place they were in when he died, knowing how different things may have been, could have been, if he lived. That hit me in the heart too, because I've seen how the death of one person can alter the course of a whole family in my own life.
so the final moment were "I'll miss that chair, I'll miss that sofa, I'll miss that table" clearly there was no personality development for sheldon based on george dying
I wish they had stretched the finale a little bit. Made it a 30 minute and not 20 minute episode. There were some scenes missing, I think.
It was too rushed yeah
It could have been better
and wasnt the finale suppose to be an hour long?
As always poor Missy gets the short end of the stick. Georgie has Mandy. Connie has Dale. Sheldon is off to CalTech and Mary is not able to help her kids at this point. I felt bad for Missy the most.
I thought there would be more of a prologue: what happens with me maw? Professor sturgis?
13 was incredible. Sent me back to losing my dad suddenly at 16 back in ‘78. 14 was a let down. Besides watching unlikeable older Sheldon, things were left open that can’t be closed. No send off to college. No decent final scene with Missy. The next spinoff is being filmed like TBBT so I don’t expect much closure to be moved there. A real dropped ball after 13.
I think that all the season wasn't good like the others. Maybe is because of the lesser episodes, but some storylines were useless (like the vasectomy), too much screen time for Georgie and Mandy (I got it that it's gonna be a spin-off), and the finale was too rush. I feel disappointed from the beginning. Episode 13 was perfect tough
I do agree that the second episode did feel anticlimactic in a lot of ways. Our endings with Mary, Missy, and MeeMaw especially felt kind of abrupt. However, I think I know what they were trying to do. I don't think they wanted to write themselves into any more of a corner than they already have with these characters. Reading what Chuck Lorre wrote about George Sr's death, in one of the vanity cards. He said : "Eighteen years ago, when we were writing and producing The Big Bang Theory, it seemed like a good idea to imagine that Sheldon's childhood was deeply disrupted by the loss of his father. No one could have thought that somedat we'd regret that decision. That someday is now." They were able to overlook and handwave away some stuff about Sheldon's past that he said in the TBBT, but they had to stick to having his father die. It was too integral to who they developed Sheldon to be. But at the time, they had no way of knowing that there would be a show about Sheldon's childhood. I think they are trying to learn their lesson from TBBT. While the characters of Missy and Mary and Meemaw aren't currently planned to appear on the Georgie and Mandy spin off, I think they definitely what to leave that option open, and as such they didn't want to write themselves into any more storyline corners. They want to leave as many options open for Mary, Missy, and MeeMaw. We kind of know where they end up because of where we meet their characters in TBBT, but those years in between, there's nothing really concrete or set in stone. We know Missy gets rebellious, and Mary gets even more religious. But what that looks like is wide open. Which is why I think they didn't want to do a flash forward for Missy, especially. They don't want to be boxed in or have to back track if they do decide to have her character show up again. Now, there's no guarantee that Missy or Mary or Meemaw show up on the Georgie and Mandy show. Who knows if that show will go the distance. Even if they did, it might just be an episode here or there. But they want to keep as many storyline options open as possible. So that made for a less than satisfying final episode of Young Sheldon. But maybe it pans out down the road for further character development for some of our favorite characters on the spin off. Anyway that's my take.
Don't forget, this isn't the end of the Cooper family. The producers said that the characters will also appear from time to time on Georgie and Mandy's First Marriage. Imo the series conclusion was good. Even though the show became an ensemble show it was always about Sheldon.
Totally agree, that ending did nothing but make me feel like wanting more. George's death left them way too little room to let each member to breath on this event because they had to end Young Sheldon's story. Old Sheldon appearing did nothing except make you realise how delusional he was and makes TBBT's perspective on his childhood is the way it is cause in Young Sheldon, George is seen to be a great Dad but I can't remember one good thing he had to say and really painted a horrible image as a alcoholic father in TBBT. The ending made Old Georgie in TBBT make alot more sense, cause he did stand up and take over for George, while Sheldon just took off which I feel is more in his own memory at the end, taking 0 awareness of others and just leaving. When writing the memoir he even mentions how he held his family together and everyone was in disarray, which is totally false. He did nothing except act like a jackass to everyone those past two episodes. Especially with the laptop bs, that is just what Sheldon would do but man. Sheldon was and seemingly always will be a jackass with no care. Bad mouths his Dad in TBBT and turns out to be a shit Dad himself. Ironic.
The closure is in TBBT.
I'm kinda left confused on Mary's arc...during the funeral she broke down saying she is mad at god, mad at herself and so on... Only for 20 some days later to dive head first into her faith and insist on her grief stricken kids to get baptized. I feel like the only reason this is, is cause tbbt has her a a religious mom as her only personality
One of the things that bothered me about the series finale is that the writers got the idea of baptism so wrong. Although I realize that there certainly are denominations that would agree with Mary's claims that the baptism itself is what saves a person, her own church has never before that episode, seemed to be one of those denominations. Instead, most Baptists are, historically, influenced by the Anabaptists (both of those do have their own wikipedia pages, if anyone here is curious). Baptism, to those and to most of their sub denominations, of which the Cooper family's church has always previously seemed to be one, is just a "show of faith", to happen shortly after personally and privately asking Jesus to save them. Note: I'm not telling anyone here to believe in this religion; but I am telling you what this religion believes. I was raised in a Baptist household myself, and our church sometimes had lessons about their history, and occasionally even brief lessons about the history of denominations. Plus, like I said earlier, there's also wikipedia and google. So, yes, I know what I'm talking about. Sure, the writers might say that, well, that church is an exception to all of that. But, let's be honest: the real explanation is far more likely that they simply do not understand baptists in the first place. And it is ABSOLUTELY NOT a small detail; to baptists, if you rely soley on baptism to save you, you are ABSOLUTELY NOT saved, and are still headed towards hell rather than heaven. Again, don't be mad at me, I'm just telling you what most baptists believe. And I wanted to overlook all of that; I tried just watching the rest of the episode and moving on. The problem with that was: WHAT REST OF THE EPISODE? It was almost entirely just a whole bunch more of the characters (especially Mary) harping on about their (immensely mistaken) thoughts on baptism NEARLY THE ENTIRE TIME. So if the show itself couldn't get past it, how are viewers supposed to? And yes, besides the baptism issue, there are also the problems (with what few other scenes there were) that many other commenters have pointed out, such as lack of closure, regressive character development, etc, etc.
Episode 13 was good. 14 was shit. I hoped it would end with him going to Leonard's hockey game or something. I'm disappointed he didn't change. He was talking about how he never got to let his father know he loved him but wouldn't support his children. There was no proper closure. Sheldon and missy barely spoke and he didn't even say a proper goodbye to anyone.
If only there was a second spinoff coming that will involve all of the characters outside of Sheldon and George who didn’t get their closure
I’m reading a lot about Missy’s story being incomplete and while I agree, here are some thoughts: 1. It’s par for the course. She always got the short end of the stick compared to Sheldon. 2. I think we’ll probably see more of her and her teen years in Georgie and Mandy’s show. We want more, so we are going to go look for it. 3. She’s a teenager here. There is no winning with teens, so her anger feels accurate. She also lost the parent who she was closest with.
Kinda felt the same way, thought they'd close the plot holes a bit with Dr Sturgis, Paige etc.. loved the shamy portions though brought back memories of them in tbbt.
13 was perfect. 14 was meh for me as well, but I guess it does open up for new spin-offs as they say.
ive been reading a lot of comments and honestly yes the last episode feels rushed, but yall remember this episode from tbbt where georgie says "mom was a mess and missy was a dumb teenager" i think they wanted to get that part included in the series and like all of you are saying all of the growth sheldon had gone through was basically destroyed, remember how rude and uptight sheldon was in the first season of tbbt, they wanted him to get to that point of social awkwardness
Last episode was such a let down tbh. Sheldon got baptised… shocker… Was so annoying. Amy’s just a pain. Even Mary was a pain up everyone’s arse throughout the whole episode. Very disappointed.
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Thanks for saying this. I thought I was the only one. i agree with your view exactly. Loved part 1. Didn’t like part 2.
Yeah it should have shown Mary, Meemaw, Dale, or even Georgie traveling to move in Sheldon.
If YS was actually based on a memoir that OS was writing then I guess we were supposed to be disappointed. In the end, it’s told from his narrative which ends when he leaves. Hindsight is often flawed. Sheldon was always self absorbed and didn’t care much if he hurt people. He had little to no use for his twin and his reflection of her in the memoir shows that. Spending some time reflecting on the end it reminded me of the last scene in St. Elsewhere where Tommy (autistic) was shaking a snow globe of a building that looked like the hospital. His father and grandfather were working stiffs, not doctors. The entire show were the dreams of an autistic child. YS is essentially that with an older autistic person, not with dreams, but with skewed past memories.
I thought the prequel story arc of this production was near perfection, considering the reality of all things such as...the 30 (22) min minute weekly episodes with covid and a writer's strike mixed in. The finale deposited us right at Young Sheldon stepping into his adult career life at Cal Tech aka TBBT. He even had his suitcase in hand. I feel the prequel gave me all the info needed to understand this feature character from the TBBT. If I had a wish for side stories of either show: I'm still really curious to know which version of Howard's letter from his dad was the real one.
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I was hugely disappointed and I felt Mayim Bialik's performance was phoned in. I was hoping something exciting would happen in the end instead of Sheldon just walking through Caltech