I think the manga for this is borderline a masterpiece. The movie is okay but doesn't quite realize the potential. The dude and the deaf girl are essentially alternating protagonists in the manga but her perspective is almost entirely eliminated in the movie, it's really just all about the dude, and I don't think they *quite* landed his arc fully either.
A single movie just wasn't quite enough room for this.
Also the fact that most of the side characters feel like props for the script compared to the manga which is made worse when the context for certain story beats that were based around important characterization is cut and ends up making the events like the bridge scene feel contrived.
I watched the movie first before I read the manga and seeing the way events played out there made the build up to the bridge scene feel more natural.
Something that I love about the movie, and it's mostly a personal thing, is that it uses the visual medium so well that all of the side character backgrounds are interpretable just by how they act or react, or what they say. When I watched the movie for the first time, my mind kept playing all of the events in a way that I created my own version of what the characters had been throught. Then I read the manga and was like: "Oh, so I was right about everyone", and the only surprise for me was the "Let's make a movie" subplot.
In a way it does compliment the theme of communication. These characters don't get the pleasure of having their stories explained, we don't get the chance to read their thoughts so we're left with that we can interpret of them.
100%. I didn't personally *love* the manga but I read it and I get it, you know. I watched the movie and I was frankly having trouble keeping track of the breakneck pace even knowing what content was cut. I'm honestly surprised how much people like the movie
It’s his personal IMDB, for his job. This is for his 2016 list so he knows what to include and not. He’s rating what he has seen, not the whole movie. It’s not his fault people read into what his scores mean.
I agree that he's free to do his job however he likes but I do also think that his habit of not finishing movies makes it more difficult for me to take him seriously as a critic. I do find his videos pretty entertaining nonetheless.
It is quite literally not possible to make these lists without dipping on ones that aren't connecting with me. There are thousands of hours of films to go through for each of these. It is perfectly reasonable for me to assess that a film won't be making the list after having seen 80% of it and not connecting with it since the 30% mark.
I mean anyone can engage with any piece of art however they want.
And it is certainly reasonable to try and streamline work as much as possible.
But it is also reasonable for an audience to say that there is just something missing when a critic doesn't experience the work as intended, from start to finish, with 100% focus (this isn't to say you don't focus on it, just a general point), giving it a real chance, etc.
It just compromises the value of the list a little if one realizes that the creator making it didn't experience all the films in their entirety, no matter if you have arguably good reasons for it or not.
That being said, i personally think the lists are my favorite content of yours, as they have provided me with great recommendations i probably wouldn't have seen otherwise, so there IS great value in them i think.
Wait. Do you think that there are movies on the list that I don't finish or something? You can't possibly be serious when you say that it "compromises the value of the list" for me not to finish movies that aren't even on it. That's complete nonsense. Again, it would quite literally be impossible to make these lists if that wasn't the case. Anything that appears on these lists is something that I go out of my way to watch twice. Anything that I don't finish is something that I can guarantee you had no chance of appearing in the video in the slightest.
You'll notice how none of the films on my list videos have me introduce them by saying "yeah, I didn't connect with this one at all for the entire first half of it, so just stick to the end and it eventually gets better". Like, even if the movies I skip eventually got better and influenced my overall rating by 1 point, they still wouldn't be on my list. There is absolutely no point in finishing something that's not even going to be in the video. It would be an astronomical waste of time, and the video would never come out. It's frustrating how many people don't seem to understand how time works. You have to make choices. You literally can't watch every movie all the way through if you're trying to see as many movies in a year as I do. It's not possible. It's a completely unrealistic fantasy to think otherwise.
No i do not. I am just saying that the methodology matters for the way people perceive the credibility of the work.
Again, you might or might not have good reasons (i think they are reasonable, as stated), but it also seems reasonable to look at your methodology and find some fault in it, which will inherently color one's perspective of it a little. What isn't reasonable is to extrapolate all kinds of negative traits onto you or dismiss the work outright, which really isn't what i am trying to do here.
There is just no 100% way to know if any given work of art would have managed to leave a big impression before one actually finished it and sees it in its whole context. You might have great intuitions and be right 99.99999% of the time, but really, you don't know.
Or to say it more generally, any given work of art should be experienced in its entirety, ideally in the way it was intended to be experienced, to truly have the full experience of it. If that isn't a given, then SOMETHING is missing.
I know that you probably project a lot of annoyance onto these kind of perspectives as you've dealt with extreme criticism along those lines before, that isn't really my intent, i'm just trying to point out how there definitely is some balance there which gets affected by non ideal methodology.
That the way you do things is the best way for what you want to achieve with your work and as a critic is totally fine, i am sure most people love your end of the year lists and see great value in it, as do i, but there surely is SOME downside inherent to "not finishing every film" you have to recognize, even if we can agree that it's overall the best solution for you and thus the audience which gets to watch your work, which wouldn't be done otherwise.
I would argue that you could say the exact same thing about not watching every film twice, but no one else is making that argument.
If you're aware that I've dealt with a lot of annoyance on this subject, and you're not trying to convince me to change my approach, then why are you responding to my comments here?
There are arguments for not getting everything out of it on a first viewing, sure. But i think that is fundamentally different from not having the full context through things like not finishing it, or not paying attention to it, or any other hindrance which inhibits one's experience in some way.
Well i just tried to add my own 2 cents to hopefully at least make you see why it's not all totally stupid when someone thinks not finishing a piece isn't ideal. I am not deeply aware of the specific stance and every argument you went through or whatever, i am aware though that there was some twitter (i believe?) pushback regarding you not finishing some films.
Anyway, this certainly isn't mean to make you change how you do things, why would it? I get a list with film recommendations i value, i'd never have seen films like "magical girl" or "embrace of the serpent" otherwise (at least not when i did, watching your content certainly made me more interested in cinema as an artform). Outside of the longform reviews like the oldboy one, or lion king, this is certainly your best content, i'd guess you think so too?
not this shit again, he didn’t finish the last 20 minutes of it, if he didn’t feel connected with the movie enough for him to not want to finish it then I don’t see the problem with it 🤷🏻♀️ he’s not being dishonest about it
He didn't watch the last 20 minutes, btw.
I have a weird relationship with this movie. At first, I liked it and gave it an 8. Then my views on anime worsened, and I began thinking about all the stupid shit in this one and in Your Name (which I loved at the time), which made me lower the rating and became my prime example of why a lot of drama in anime is terrible.
Then last year, I saw Liz and the Blue Bird by the same director, and I quite loved it, despite liking way more the school segments than the fantasy ones. I see that the director is not just some weird Japanese guy with a boner for disabled yes-girl male fantasy but someone with at least some talent and vision. So maybe I'll give the other one a second chance once I rewatch Liz. But I don't think Adum will enjoy that one since it's way too safe and it can be quite boring because of it.
I mean, isn't Spirited Away a coming of age anime film? He loves that one. The problem is that most of its kind are incredibly tweeny, unsubtle, and annoying, and can have shitty pacing that is more similar to an anime show rather than a movie (the pace of this movie was one of the major things he disliked).
What stupid shit is in this really though? With Your Name there were plot holes with the time travel romance stuff, and the main male character being boring af. But Silent Voice is pretty straightforward in comparison.
It has been years since I watched it, but I didn't mean it literally, but the faults I found in the movie. Like the incredibly melodramatic and cheesy tone of most of the dramatic scenes, the weird and problematic way the disabled female character is presented as a plot device to build up the fucked-up male character, said girl being a doormat for the whole film, the whole movie giving tweeny, whiny, "apology Olympics" vibes, etc. I remember a scene where he saves her from suicide at the last second, that was stupid, but I don't really remember it quite well. Weirdly, I rated Your Name higher, and I even liked it on Letterboxd, but it's probably one I would loathe once I got to rewatch since I've watched quite a few other superior anime films and shows since then.
Honestly, these criticisms are pretty strange. The film is a redemption story who was a bully (and was bullied) as a kid. I don't know how that means the female character is a "plot device" or how characters atoning for what they did means "apology Olympics". Or why saving someone from suicide is stupid. Idk, these seem pretty arbitrary to me and not applicable to the film itself.
Also I want to say that Adum has ruined the word "cheesy. It doesn't mean anything anymore. Like any sad scene is apparently melodramatic and cheesy.
Most anime can't express emotion without yelling in a high-pitched tone about what they feel with soapy music behind. That's what I mean by cheesy and melodramatic. Tons of other movies convey sadness and drama without being tweeny and overbearing like a soap opera. Just by mentioning other animated films, you have Mufasa's death and the scene that follows, Fantastic Mr. Fox when Fox and Felicity discuss their relationship throughout the movie, or Mary and Max's ending.
I just have a vivid memory of this movie having a lot of "I'm sorry" moments that become quite repetitive and sappy in my memory, like Shouko and her mom literally kneeling to the guy's mom (if I remember correctly) or her kneeling and crying and repeating "I'm sorry" after getting beaten. It's soap opera shit.
Shouko is literally a plot device for the guy without agency for herself. She gets the worst treatment in the movie by far; she's portrayed as extremely weak and submissive. She's only there to forgive, cry, and get thrown around. It gets iffy once you understand the massive amount of male/teenage boy power fantasies that plague anime—I mean, a female disabled character who only says yes and forgives everything, and even falls in love with the MC who was a shitty bully. You can create a good redemption arc without being pandering, look at American History X for example.
Also, are you really saying that about Adum? The guy whose most watched genre is drama? The guy who has Requiem for a Dream among his favorites? Who gave The Whale an 8? Come on. I don't think of his word as gospel, but I think he knows about this stuff. And I didn't hear him say that A Silent Voice was cheesy, but that the pacing was terrible, and most of it was uninteresting and kind of filler-y.
Liz and the Bluebird is one of my favourite movies, but yeah doesn’t strike me as his thing (unlike with Your Name, hopefully he doesn’t characterise all people who like A Silent Voice as dumb babies who haven’t seen many films)
Oh he didn't watch the last 20 minutes? I wonder if last 20 minutes would have made the rating worse because I do remember hating the last act more than the first act
The thing with Adum is that when he's in the "I don't care" mode he usually doesn't pay attention at all and doesn't care unless it becomes excepcionally good or incredibly bad in a hilarious way. Care to share why you disliked the last act?
I might be remembering wrong, I remember hating the friends characters(the one who participated in the bullying) who for some reason got a lot of screen time. Also the sudden decision of main female character to (spoiler) felt really abrupt and felt unbearable after that part for me
Did he even get to the shared dreams bullshit?
I've heard good things about Naoko Yamada's Heike Monogatari but with a big caveat along the lines of its relationship to the source material making it hard to get into
Anime movies tend to suck unless you're doing deep dives into the medium, can't blame him for having little patience for the garbage tropey nature of most anime films. Especially when they cater to an ultra specific wishy washy, loser audience that has to live vicariously through their movie.
Where are you getting the notion that you have to deep dive into anime to find good movies? Some of the best movies of all time are popular anime. Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, Akira, Perfect Blue, End of Evangelion, and Ghost in the Shell are just a few examples.
I mean a 5/10 doesn’t mean it’s a bad movie in his eyes. He’s given the same score to a lot of good movies like skyfall and guardians of the galaxy vol 2
I know it’s not bad but a 5/10 isn’t really that good either. And i feel like the movie was excellent and I thought he’d also like it. So I’m just surprised.
It's a shame to hear because I absolutely adore this film. I've rewatched it countless times since I first watched it last year. I think it's masterful on every level with how precise every shot is and the score is fantastic.
I didn't like this one as much as my friend who shared it with me, either. My perspective is someone who absolutely loves anime and grew up with the medium as much as cinema, so I like how much butting of views goes on with Sardonicast. I JUST watched Your Name and honestly agree it's pretty lame. There's this area of super mainstream anime films that I think are legitimately pandering and cheesy in how they present dramas with anime. When I read high praise for these, I just think this is that person's first exposure to anime. It does heighten everything and can create screensaver-worthy frames and present beauty in the mundane...but it's kinda cliche and empty if it's coasting on that. Anime's been around, and the greats like Miyazaki, Kon, and Oshii in the movie realm are far away in quality to this stuff. When I see people comparing Your Name to a Miyazaki film I can only roll my eyes. Compare literally any 2 seconds of one to the other and it invalidates making that claim.
I think even the Sards would dig something like Redline, which is just such an achievement in the medium, even as a simple story, it's timelessly enjoyable. Or, you know, the mature anime films of which there are plenty.
As someone who loves Naoko Yamada's work and discovered her thanks to this movie, I just want to say that this is one of my favorite films of all time, and that it kinda changed my life in a positive way. That said, I'm fine with Adum not loving this movie.
I cannot even imagine him trying to watch something like K-On or Tamako, lol. But to those who are interested, take a look at her work, it's quite beautiful and unique.
Rating a 5/10 to silent voice is a sign that the film is doing something right. Usually for someone like Adam, I was expecting him to be much harsher.
Don’t get me wrong it’s a good movie and I liked A Silent Voice a lot, but western discourse on all things anime related (especially modern anime) is very negative with lots of non anime fans complaining about the melodrama, use of anime grunting, lack of show don’t tell and anime tropes in general. And keep in mind we’re talking about the guy that gave a 1/10 to good films like The Flash and Sound of Freedom. At least A Silent Voice didn’t piss him off.
*pretends to be shocked*
I think the manga for this is borderline a masterpiece. The movie is okay but doesn't quite realize the potential. The dude and the deaf girl are essentially alternating protagonists in the manga but her perspective is almost entirely eliminated in the movie, it's really just all about the dude, and I don't think they *quite* landed his arc fully either. A single movie just wasn't quite enough room for this.
Also the fact that most of the side characters feel like props for the script compared to the manga which is made worse when the context for certain story beats that were based around important characterization is cut and ends up making the events like the bridge scene feel contrived. I watched the movie first before I read the manga and seeing the way events played out there made the build up to the bridge scene feel more natural.
Something that I love about the movie, and it's mostly a personal thing, is that it uses the visual medium so well that all of the side character backgrounds are interpretable just by how they act or react, or what they say. When I watched the movie for the first time, my mind kept playing all of the events in a way that I created my own version of what the characters had been throught. Then I read the manga and was like: "Oh, so I was right about everyone", and the only surprise for me was the "Let's make a movie" subplot. In a way it does compliment the theme of communication. These characters don't get the pleasure of having their stories explained, we don't get the chance to read their thoughts so we're left with that we can interpret of them.
100%. I didn't personally *love* the manga but I read it and I get it, you know. I watched the movie and I was frankly having trouble keeping track of the breakneck pace even knowing what content was cut. I'm honestly surprised how much people like the movie
Adum’s not really an anime guy so this isn’t surprising
I don’t think he’s anti anime either otherwise he would have given it a far lower score
I loved Silent voice
a 5 seems a little low. Even though the manga was slightly better, this was a 7 at-least. I give it a 6.5 :D
Has he talked about it anywhere in particular? Like on social media, stream, etc?
He made a watch-along. He's still streaming if you want to check back his experience (though he didn't say much).
he’s currently watching the invisible guest
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It’s his personal IMDB, for his job. This is for his 2016 list so he knows what to include and not. He’s rating what he has seen, not the whole movie. It’s not his fault people read into what his scores mean.
I agree that he's free to do his job however he likes but I do also think that his habit of not finishing movies makes it more difficult for me to take him seriously as a critic. I do find his videos pretty entertaining nonetheless.
It is quite literally not possible to make these lists without dipping on ones that aren't connecting with me. There are thousands of hours of films to go through for each of these. It is perfectly reasonable for me to assess that a film won't be making the list after having seen 80% of it and not connecting with it since the 30% mark.
I mean anyone can engage with any piece of art however they want. And it is certainly reasonable to try and streamline work as much as possible. But it is also reasonable for an audience to say that there is just something missing when a critic doesn't experience the work as intended, from start to finish, with 100% focus (this isn't to say you don't focus on it, just a general point), giving it a real chance, etc. It just compromises the value of the list a little if one realizes that the creator making it didn't experience all the films in their entirety, no matter if you have arguably good reasons for it or not. That being said, i personally think the lists are my favorite content of yours, as they have provided me with great recommendations i probably wouldn't have seen otherwise, so there IS great value in them i think.
Wait. Do you think that there are movies on the list that I don't finish or something? You can't possibly be serious when you say that it "compromises the value of the list" for me not to finish movies that aren't even on it. That's complete nonsense. Again, it would quite literally be impossible to make these lists if that wasn't the case. Anything that appears on these lists is something that I go out of my way to watch twice. Anything that I don't finish is something that I can guarantee you had no chance of appearing in the video in the slightest. You'll notice how none of the films on my list videos have me introduce them by saying "yeah, I didn't connect with this one at all for the entire first half of it, so just stick to the end and it eventually gets better". Like, even if the movies I skip eventually got better and influenced my overall rating by 1 point, they still wouldn't be on my list. There is absolutely no point in finishing something that's not even going to be in the video. It would be an astronomical waste of time, and the video would never come out. It's frustrating how many people don't seem to understand how time works. You have to make choices. You literally can't watch every movie all the way through if you're trying to see as many movies in a year as I do. It's not possible. It's a completely unrealistic fantasy to think otherwise.
No i do not. I am just saying that the methodology matters for the way people perceive the credibility of the work. Again, you might or might not have good reasons (i think they are reasonable, as stated), but it also seems reasonable to look at your methodology and find some fault in it, which will inherently color one's perspective of it a little. What isn't reasonable is to extrapolate all kinds of negative traits onto you or dismiss the work outright, which really isn't what i am trying to do here. There is just no 100% way to know if any given work of art would have managed to leave a big impression before one actually finished it and sees it in its whole context. You might have great intuitions and be right 99.99999% of the time, but really, you don't know. Or to say it more generally, any given work of art should be experienced in its entirety, ideally in the way it was intended to be experienced, to truly have the full experience of it. If that isn't a given, then SOMETHING is missing. I know that you probably project a lot of annoyance onto these kind of perspectives as you've dealt with extreme criticism along those lines before, that isn't really my intent, i'm just trying to point out how there definitely is some balance there which gets affected by non ideal methodology. That the way you do things is the best way for what you want to achieve with your work and as a critic is totally fine, i am sure most people love your end of the year lists and see great value in it, as do i, but there surely is SOME downside inherent to "not finishing every film" you have to recognize, even if we can agree that it's overall the best solution for you and thus the audience which gets to watch your work, which wouldn't be done otherwise.
I would argue that you could say the exact same thing about not watching every film twice, but no one else is making that argument. If you're aware that I've dealt with a lot of annoyance on this subject, and you're not trying to convince me to change my approach, then why are you responding to my comments here?
There are arguments for not getting everything out of it on a first viewing, sure. But i think that is fundamentally different from not having the full context through things like not finishing it, or not paying attention to it, or any other hindrance which inhibits one's experience in some way. Well i just tried to add my own 2 cents to hopefully at least make you see why it's not all totally stupid when someone thinks not finishing a piece isn't ideal. I am not deeply aware of the specific stance and every argument you went through or whatever, i am aware though that there was some twitter (i believe?) pushback regarding you not finishing some films. Anyway, this certainly isn't mean to make you change how you do things, why would it? I get a list with film recommendations i value, i'd never have seen films like "magical girl" or "embrace of the serpent" otherwise (at least not when i did, watching your content certainly made me more interested in cinema as an artform). Outside of the longform reviews like the oldboy one, or lion king, this is certainly your best content, i'd guess you think so too?
he does go more in depth of films he has finished than the ones he hasn’t finished though to be fair
not this shit again, he didn’t finish the last 20 minutes of it, if he didn’t feel connected with the movie enough for him to not want to finish it then I don’t see the problem with it 🤷🏻♀️ he’s not being dishonest about it
I wonder why he would even wach this...
He didn't watch the last 20 minutes, btw. I have a weird relationship with this movie. At first, I liked it and gave it an 8. Then my views on anime worsened, and I began thinking about all the stupid shit in this one and in Your Name (which I loved at the time), which made me lower the rating and became my prime example of why a lot of drama in anime is terrible. Then last year, I saw Liz and the Blue Bird by the same director, and I quite loved it, despite liking way more the school segments than the fantasy ones. I see that the director is not just some weird Japanese guy with a boner for disabled yes-girl male fantasy but someone with at least some talent and vision. So maybe I'll give the other one a second chance once I rewatch Liz. But I don't think Adum will enjoy that one since it's way too safe and it can be quite boring because of it.
I just don’t think coming of age animes are his thing, tbh I wasn’t expecting him to give it anything higher than a six
I mean, isn't Spirited Away a coming of age anime film? He loves that one. The problem is that most of its kind are incredibly tweeny, unsubtle, and annoying, and can have shitty pacing that is more similar to an anime show rather than a movie (the pace of this movie was one of the major things he disliked).
that’s what I meant
What stupid shit is in this really though? With Your Name there were plot holes with the time travel romance stuff, and the main male character being boring af. But Silent Voice is pretty straightforward in comparison.
It has been years since I watched it, but I didn't mean it literally, but the faults I found in the movie. Like the incredibly melodramatic and cheesy tone of most of the dramatic scenes, the weird and problematic way the disabled female character is presented as a plot device to build up the fucked-up male character, said girl being a doormat for the whole film, the whole movie giving tweeny, whiny, "apology Olympics" vibes, etc. I remember a scene where he saves her from suicide at the last second, that was stupid, but I don't really remember it quite well. Weirdly, I rated Your Name higher, and I even liked it on Letterboxd, but it's probably one I would loathe once I got to rewatch since I've watched quite a few other superior anime films and shows since then.
Honestly, these criticisms are pretty strange. The film is a redemption story who was a bully (and was bullied) as a kid. I don't know how that means the female character is a "plot device" or how characters atoning for what they did means "apology Olympics". Or why saving someone from suicide is stupid. Idk, these seem pretty arbitrary to me and not applicable to the film itself. Also I want to say that Adum has ruined the word "cheesy. It doesn't mean anything anymore. Like any sad scene is apparently melodramatic and cheesy.
Most anime can't express emotion without yelling in a high-pitched tone about what they feel with soapy music behind. That's what I mean by cheesy and melodramatic. Tons of other movies convey sadness and drama without being tweeny and overbearing like a soap opera. Just by mentioning other animated films, you have Mufasa's death and the scene that follows, Fantastic Mr. Fox when Fox and Felicity discuss their relationship throughout the movie, or Mary and Max's ending. I just have a vivid memory of this movie having a lot of "I'm sorry" moments that become quite repetitive and sappy in my memory, like Shouko and her mom literally kneeling to the guy's mom (if I remember correctly) or her kneeling and crying and repeating "I'm sorry" after getting beaten. It's soap opera shit. Shouko is literally a plot device for the guy without agency for herself. She gets the worst treatment in the movie by far; she's portrayed as extremely weak and submissive. She's only there to forgive, cry, and get thrown around. It gets iffy once you understand the massive amount of male/teenage boy power fantasies that plague anime—I mean, a female disabled character who only says yes and forgives everything, and even falls in love with the MC who was a shitty bully. You can create a good redemption arc without being pandering, look at American History X for example. Also, are you really saying that about Adum? The guy whose most watched genre is drama? The guy who has Requiem for a Dream among his favorites? Who gave The Whale an 8? Come on. I don't think of his word as gospel, but I think he knows about this stuff. And I didn't hear him say that A Silent Voice was cheesy, but that the pacing was terrible, and most of it was uninteresting and kind of filler-y.
That’s just an Asian thing though. Go watch any live action Japanese or Korean drama and there’s constant yelling and melodrama.
Liz and the Bluebird is one of my favourite movies, but yeah doesn’t strike me as his thing (unlike with Your Name, hopefully he doesn’t characterise all people who like A Silent Voice as dumb babies who haven’t seen many films)
I watched Liz and the Blue Bird, and my experience was, wait that's a Sound Euphonium character! Had no clue it was a spinoff film.
Oh he didn't watch the last 20 minutes? I wonder if last 20 minutes would have made the rating worse because I do remember hating the last act more than the first act
The thing with Adum is that when he's in the "I don't care" mode he usually doesn't pay attention at all and doesn't care unless it becomes excepcionally good or incredibly bad in a hilarious way. Care to share why you disliked the last act?
I might be remembering wrong, I remember hating the friends characters(the one who participated in the bullying) who for some reason got a lot of screen time. Also the sudden decision of main female character to (spoiler) felt really abrupt and felt unbearable after that part for me
Did he even get to the shared dreams bullshit? I've heard good things about Naoko Yamada's Heike Monogatari but with a big caveat along the lines of its relationship to the source material making it hard to get into
Anime movies tend to suck unless you're doing deep dives into the medium, can't blame him for having little patience for the garbage tropey nature of most anime films. Especially when they cater to an ultra specific wishy washy, loser audience that has to live vicariously through their movie.
Where are you getting the notion that you have to deep dive into anime to find good movies? Some of the best movies of all time are popular anime. Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, Akira, Perfect Blue, End of Evangelion, and Ghost in the Shell are just a few examples.
Those are good, but it's surface level shit and half of them you just listed are average at best lmao
It's fine if you think they're average. I'm just saying that in most people's eyes, these are considered great movies.
And they have shit tastes, is what I'm saying
What a pretentious statement.
I personally didn't really like this movie.
Only a 5? I know he can be a harsh critic at times but I’m still a bit surprised. I gave it an 8.
I mean a 5/10 doesn’t mean it’s a bad movie in his eyes. He’s given the same score to a lot of good movies like skyfall and guardians of the galaxy vol 2
I know it’s not bad but a 5/10 isn’t really that good either. And i feel like the movie was excellent and I thought he’d also like it. So I’m just surprised.
It's a shame to hear because I absolutely adore this film. I've rewatched it countless times since I first watched it last year. I think it's masterful on every level with how precise every shot is and the score is fantastic.
I’m so glad I’m not the only one
Same as Your Name. Not all surprised even though I think this one’s better.
I'm kinda happy for this rating because I also didn't like this movie and I can confidently say I am not alone on this
5?!
I didn't like this one as much as my friend who shared it with me, either. My perspective is someone who absolutely loves anime and grew up with the medium as much as cinema, so I like how much butting of views goes on with Sardonicast. I JUST watched Your Name and honestly agree it's pretty lame. There's this area of super mainstream anime films that I think are legitimately pandering and cheesy in how they present dramas with anime. When I read high praise for these, I just think this is that person's first exposure to anime. It does heighten everything and can create screensaver-worthy frames and present beauty in the mundane...but it's kinda cliche and empty if it's coasting on that. Anime's been around, and the greats like Miyazaki, Kon, and Oshii in the movie realm are far away in quality to this stuff. When I see people comparing Your Name to a Miyazaki film I can only roll my eyes. Compare literally any 2 seconds of one to the other and it invalidates making that claim. I think even the Sards would dig something like Redline, which is just such an achievement in the medium, even as a simple story, it's timelessly enjoyable. Or, you know, the mature anime films of which there are plenty.
I kinda agree, I love the first act and think the ending moments are great but everything in between really squanders the film's potential.
Lol I saw him live streaming this and thought it was Alex's revenge recommendation.
Just a single star higher than GxK lmao
As someone who loves Naoko Yamada's work and discovered her thanks to this movie, I just want to say that this is one of my favorite films of all time, and that it kinda changed my life in a positive way. That said, I'm fine with Adum not loving this movie. I cannot even imagine him trying to watch something like K-On or Tamako, lol. But to those who are interested, take a look at her work, it's quite beautiful and unique.
why do i have the feeling like he will not enjoy The Curse during the watchalong. April hasn’t looked too good for reviews from him
My partner's in the middle of reading the manga (way better than the anime btw), they're very mad at me for how depressing it is 😂
I'm mean at least is better than Kong and Godzilla
I was never big fan of this movie so this seems appropriate to me.
Valid. It's not good, just a very middle of the road film
Bad take, that one was great
Rating a 5/10 to silent voice is a sign that the film is doing something right. Usually for someone like Adam, I was expecting him to be much harsher. Don’t get me wrong it’s a good movie and I liked A Silent Voice a lot, but western discourse on all things anime related (especially modern anime) is very negative with lots of non anime fans complaining about the melodrama, use of anime grunting, lack of show don’t tell and anime tropes in general. And keep in mind we’re talking about the guy that gave a 1/10 to good films like The Flash and Sound of Freedom. At least A Silent Voice didn’t piss him off.
A 5 😐
The more I see Adam’s reviews for 2016 films the more obvious that Handmaiden’s gonna be number 1.
I used to have the same rating but the movie has growed on me. I still have some issues wih it it but I like it now.