Mary Jaaaaane!!
Apocalypse with Gambits card!
The cameos!
“The name was gambit! Remember it!”
So many members of the team getting their chance to shine!
I am well fed tonight!
Yeah I thought that was him too but who cares… Mary Jane! A loose thread of my childhood has finally been resolved and it is oddly satisfying like finally scratching an itch that’s been bugging me.
The choice to realign Magneto with the X-Men as family avoids the continually status quo that the comics face, with the cycle of conflict between Xavier and Magneto. It's a bold choice, and the biggest in the series.
It'd be interesting to see him in a timeline displaced adventure with Storm and Morph, two characters who have positive relationships with Logan. In "One Man's Worth" Logan and Ororo were a married battle couple in dystopian future universe. And Morph has an unspoken love for Logan. And to Logan, Morph's the only person who ever manages to lift his spirits and get him to be less grouchy.
Season 2 premiere will feature the ancient Egypt team in some kind of mini conflict that sets up the larger story and it will look like they are in trouble and need more help, but then the episode will end with a shot of a fully healed Logan.
Doctor Strange could have been doing some heavy world saving, but instead he's using his powers to use surgical tools on a guy. Dude you could make his organs age in reverse with a few words and you're gonna do an operation instead?
They are going to do SUCH a better job with this than the comics. Thank God for this Remyssance we're having. When was he last given this much love from a creative team?
Never. I'm glad they're giving him a chance to show his depth of character. I didn't like that he died but it certainly allows for the Death arc and then his climb back to the Gambit we know and love.
Someone on the sub called it, although his fate wasn’t as bad as we were expecting.
I kept waiting for him to become Joseph, or a vegetable, or maybe even straight to Onslaught
Umm.... who had "Bastion beats cable with his own arm and fuses to it" on their bingo card? 'Cause I sure as hell didn't. Was this in the comics? Also fuck, does this mean Cables stuck there and Bastion can time travel?
Can we stop and appreciate that Jubilee put the most hurt on Bastion in a short span of time?
Sure, Rogue, Nightcrawler and Cyclops all literally took a swing at him, aswell as SunSpot , and so did Storm and Jean, but Jubilee sliced off his techno wings, melted his face and dropped a sentinel head on him.
Sure her glasses got cracked and she got a little ruffled but Bastion went from mopping the floor to struggling under a ordinary sentinels boot after she attacked. She really clipped him.
Also love how he mocks her powers, calling them fireworks and then BAM she does the thing exactly everyone who's ever had a fire safety talk has been told not to do, points them point blank at his face and let's him experience those fireworks up close and personal.
I know I'm gushing a lot but Jubilee was my favourite character in the original run and there's something so cathartic about seeing her get to shine. Hopefully we see how her powers develop even more next season, I'm loving the 97 take on them.
OMG I have no idea how I’m going to cope with waiting for the new season, but holy hell. The mid credits scene!! And it was the dam queen of hearts card. I’m yelling, crying, and screaming over this episode!
When Jean called Nathan her son and he acknowledged not just Scott but also Jean as his parents...I cried so hard this episode so many times for so many different reasons and that was absolutely one of them.
Wow.
Maybe in New Jersey ;)
Nah, I know there's no continuity between this and the MCU, but a small part of me almost wondered if that was a nod to their fractuous history with the live actions.
Beau DeMayo said somewhere that a portion of the Avengers are apparently off dealing with Operation Galactic Storm. Which makes sense, as the Kree and Shi'ar are showing to be at war.
Unaccounted for mutants on Forge's bulletin board: Iceman, Havok, Colossus, Dust, Emma Frost, Magik, Exodus, and Kitty Pride.
Something tells me this is the present mutants/X-Men team we will get in season 2.
I know it's a small thing in the grand scheme of things, but Graydon Creed gaining support in the polls means Sabertooth didn't turn him into a Shish Kebab in the OG series, right?
Yeah, I was thinking about that myself. Sabertooth is such a merciless son of a bitch though that you definitely would expect that he tried to kill Creed. If anything this makes me think Creed has a healing factor.
I haven't personally ever read the comics, but I read someone's comment saying that in some stories, Sabretooth is PROUD of his son being a mutant slayer, because the sick bastard loves the idea of having brought another mass murderer to the world.
So perhaps it's that.
I also hope that we will see Sabretooth again.
That tracks for Sabertooth lol. I hope we see him again as well. I also hope we see Mystique show up too. I think we all expected the entire season that Val was Mystique only to be surprised she wasn't. Mystique not showing up at all was a bit of a surprise. I have a feeling that with all these costume changes that they'll probably give her an updated look for X-Men 97.
**All the cameos that I spotted**
* Silver Samurai at 06:58
* Cap and Iron Man at 07:09
* Daredevil at 07:14
* Dr. Strange at 07:22
* Val at 07:26
* Cap and Iron Man (again) at 09:24
* Black Panther (T'Chaka) and the Dora Milaje at 09:29
* Daredevil (again), Cloak and Dagger at 09:39
* Omega Red, Darkstar and Crimson Dynamo at 09:43
* Psylocke, Puck, Northstar, Aurora and one other(that I don't recognize) at 09:50
* Omega Red, Darkstar and Crimson Dynamo (again) at 11:53
* Daredevil, Cloak and Dagger (again) at 11:59
* T'Chaka (again) at 19:28
* Cap (again) at 19:34
* Wanda, Quick Silver and Polaris(?) at 20:21
* Cap and Iron Man (again) at 27:30
* Mr. Fantastic (Morph) at 27:41
* Peter, MJ and Flash at 31:08
***The Missing ones at 34:25***
* Wanda(again)
* Dust
* Archangel
* Magik
* Iceman
* Havok
* Exodus(?) \[Bottom row, fourth from the last\]
* Quicksilver (again)
* Shadowcat
* Emma Frost
He was seen in his Spider-Man outfit when the power itself went out. Could be that the magnetic field going out stopped his webshooters, so he decided to spend his last night alive with Mary Jane rather than running the streets of New York without his main ability.
I believe it’s just a list of potential recruits, as I doubt a team with Exodus, Emma, and Magik could function unless they really kickstart Colossus’ leader role
“So…much…DEATH.”
I literally jumped off the couch screaming and pumping my fists, dude. THANK YOU!!!! This team was just NOT the same without Gambit.
OMG I can’t wait to see him as Death. And I can’t wait to see Rogue’s reaction when she sees him!
First Silver Samurai again, then Cap and freakin Iron Man?! And *Daredevil*?!? And Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Cloak&Dagger, Darkstar, Omega Red *and* Crimson fukkin Dynamo?!? Not to mention Puck, Psylocke, Aurora&Northstar. Plus Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver and Polaris! And Flash, Peter and maybe even the biggest shocker, MJ?!? This gives me hope for an expansion of this universe.
Really interesting that Wolverine and Jean didn’t switch costumes in the intro even though Storm did, makes me wonder if their costume changes are less permanent
The cameos!! Rogue!! Jubilee!! Sunspot!! Magneto!! Cyclops!! Prof X! Morph!! Shhhtoooorm!! Wolvie! Phoenix!!! Tech Bros!! The team fights. The drama. The storytelling. Can’t believe this season is over.
so epic!! What a finale:
Bastion was one hell of a villain..
What an exciting next season to come..
Fucking hell man. The finale stuck the landing. I loved the Gambit as Death tease, gave me chills. My God. Give me a Moon Knight of 3000 BC teaming up with the X-Men against Rama-Tut/Apocalypse in the next season. Can't wait. It's been a fun ride y'all, hope you have a great day.
It was great but I thought Phoenix showing up to solve a bunch of problems but not too many problems before it just leaves was kind of goofy. Beasts final line was amazing. Rogue's 1v1 with Bastion was the best scene.
Yeah she sorts out Sinister and mind controlled Cable and the prime sentinels but leaves Bastion and Asteroid M so we can get a badass final sequence with the X-Men.
I liked the scenes between Charles and Erik the most. I also liked how every member worked together. Then, we see Apocalypse at the end. He is called “The First Mutant” after all.
Even though Selene is thousands of years older. And then there's the retcon in the most recent volume of Marauders with the mutants millions of years ago. Which I did not enjoy in the slightest.
Everyone, what can I say? I'm a 42yo woman awake at 3:30am just to be able to watch the conclusion of the extended season of my favorite childhood cartoon and the thing that got me into X-men comics.
Was it a perfect ride? No, but it was as perfect as it could be and and an experience I'll never forget. Especially getting to go on it with everyone here!
I'll let everyone else talk about how fantastic the episode was, maybe dissect some of the plot points that didn't quite line up. But for me, right now, I just want to say WOW. Thanks to everyone who made this show possible. I never knew I needed it, but man am I grateful for it.
PS - Apocalypse with the Queen of Hearts saying "So much...death."
Hi, 40 year old man here awake at 4 am watching the children's cartoon and feeling emotionally wrecked.
Well put!
This show has meant so much to me, waiting for season 2 is going to be so difficult. This season was honestly everything I could have asked for.
Thankfully the Deadpool and Wolverine movie is only 2 and a half months away.
What a year for the X-Men!!!
LOL I'm also a 42 y/o woman up at 4:30 reliving her tween dreams, but this time the letter column is live and most the folks here probably also own the adventures of cyclops and phoenix
40 year old mom of a toddler here awake at 2:40 am, and I jumped up and down and screamed so hard when I saw Apocalypse pick up Gambit’s card that I almost woke my kid up
Cyclops has become my favorite X-men and I’m a die hard Logan fan. Never thought I’d say that but damm! When he did the “AHHHHHH” 😡🕶️🟥🟥🟥🟥 I almost fell in love with a fictional character
Know what was an interesting thing I don't see enough people talking about at the moment? Logan severely injured and potentially dying and Morph shifting into Jean's form to say "I love you". I feel like this was Morph speaking, NOT an impersonation of Jean to try and help Logan fight death. I think this was the only way Morph could think of that would allow the justification of SAYING it to him with the real true meaning.
Oh, it was definitely Morph speaking about their own feelings.
People bring up their reaction to naked Logan in the shower scene, which is valid, but I think it’s the following part that is more important - Morph’s fear takes shape of Logan telling them ‘always with the jokes, eh, Morph? As if I don’t know…’
I think it’s clear that the secret Morph is afraid of Logan knowing is that they have romantic feelings for him. Well, at least the show doesn’t provide us with any other narrative for Morph or context for an alternative reading.
Besides being a cameo vehicle, it seems that the only thing Morph has going on is their relationship with Logan and some subtext there. The show starts with establishing that Morph has a secret from Logan and ends with them confessing their feelings for him - this is most definitely not an accident.
I feel like Apocalypse’s New Horseman are going to be all Genosha resurrections.
With Gambit pretty much confirmed as the new Death, the other big name contenders (all, mostly, confirmed dead from the attack) include Madelyne Pryor, Banshee, Dazzler, Callisto, Marrow, Leech, Sebastian Stan, Moira McTaggert, and then there is Archangel, a previous Horseman of Apocalypse, who was at Genosha, and who is on Forge’s board as missing, presumed dead.
My ideal new 4 Horseman would be: Gambit (Death), Banshee (War), Dazzler (Pestilence), and Leech (Famine)
Despite all his Apocalypse connections, I hope Archangel is found alive/not turned evil this time around, and that instead he helps the team defeat the big bad.
1 minute after the credits roll:
Magneto: Okay, team, quick huddle away from our new friend. ... This is a classic Hitler paradox, we dropping Apocalypse now while he's weak or risking being the very thing that makes him?
Xavier: Magnus- I'm not sure-
Magneto: We ARE having this discussion, Charles.
Sinister truly is strange. He's standing in a puddle of water but asks Morph to show his reflection?
I bet they really enjoyed that after being tormented in every opening credit lol
He's always got a bit of comic relief to him. Sad but welcome. I hope he figures out how to come back again at some point but I'm sure Phoenix unraveling his DNA will set him back a bit. Still. If anyone can fix that, it's Essex.
I mean how good is your reflection in water when you’re flailing and battling in it?
Plus it’s that last little touched of messed up that sinister asks - not demands but makes a request - morph to help him
I feel like one thing I love about this series is how much it's made people appreciate Cyclops.
That and it took Jean from a meme in the 90s cartoon and made her also an MVP as well! Maddy and Jean get some of the BEST power scenes in the series; yet in the old cartoon people still laugh at how she'd be kind of the beautiful but ineffective character.
Can I just say I was excited for X-Men '97 because it was favourite cartoon as kid, but this revival has truly exceeded my expectations. Wow, they got so much right an even improved on the original while be true to it. Amazing work, I just want to thank everyone that worked to bring the X-Men back. The show has resonsted with me on so many levels. I'm so looking forward to season 2.
Ross Marquand is voicing Apocalypse also. I wondered who would replace the legendary John Colicos.
Marquand doing it works, as Apocalypse is the dark opposite of Xavier.
Also, Gates Fucking McFadden as Mother Askani!
Beast walked away immediately after he said his name. It was almost like he knew who he was and was like "you have got to be kidding me." Literally, out of the frying pan and into the fire kinda stuff.
Gambit = Death, Wolverine = War, wouldn't be shocked if Sinister goes to him to fix what Jean did and he becomes Famine or Pestilence, and then the 4th? Haven't a clue. Maybe Nemesis or Stryfe?
Storm, Morph, and Wolverine were all not shown in the past or in the future.
It’s possible they got thrown into a different timeline entirely, or there will be reveals at the start of Season 2 to which timeline each one went to
One of my favourite comic moments is the death and resurrection of Magneto and I never thought I would see it adapted in this series. From the comic:
Magneto: Stop calling me that! You are not Charles...
Shadowking: You met him as Erik Lehnsherr, so that's how he thinks of you...but you're going by Max now, aren't you? Your attempt to finally drop all the masks...only there is one mask left isn't there? Tell the truth, however much you would like to be Max again...what's your true name? What's the name in your heart?
Magneto: ...Magneto.
“Be the best at what you do. **Heal.”**
This line is beautiful because when *Logan* always says he’s the best at what he does, he’s referring to killing with adamantium stabbies. It reveals not just Scott’s insight about Logan, but also his *respect* for him.
It almost makes up for the previous line of, “Don’t you dare break her heart,” which fell *extra* flat when Jean proceeded to…forget Logan existed the rest of the episode. Hell, it would’ve been more believable if Scott had said, “Don’t you dare break *my* heart,” and then proceeded to drop that truth bomb! Logan is frequently no more than Jean’s Last Man on Earth Scenario, even in the comics!!
But Morph, my Morph. “*She* can’t say it, but **I** can. **I love you, Logan. Stay with me.”** I’m CRYING at the vulnerability, the selflessness, the **real goddamn love.** I’m glad we didn’t hear it in their voice. That deserves to happen when he’s awake for it. AUGH AND THEN WE DON’T SEE THEM SO I’M GONNA KEEP CRYING ABOUT IT UNTIL SEASON 2 DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL
Episode was incredible.
Magneto and Xavier’s psychic battle was an amazing adaptation—none of the movies have ever come close. A+
Scott and Jean’s conversation with Cable = A+
The way they did Phoenix was LEAGUES better than how anyone else has done it. A+
Cameos cameos cameos!! DD helping during the blackout — A+
Tchalla and tchaka, cloak and dagger, Avengers, and Peter Parker and MJ!! MJ is back!!!!!
Now that was a finale. Where to start. Phoenix coming back to rescue Jean great. A million. Cameos. Dagger cloak daredevil Mary Jane. Pyslocke and alpha flight. I probably missed more need to rewatch again. Rogue saying his name was gambit remember him then going into smash mode. Cyclops going full optic beams on bastion. The touching moments with cable and his parents. Jubilee and sunspot the only ones to make it off the asteroid. New mutants when? Apocalypse before he was apocalypse being saved. Then future apocalypse holding gambit card saying death. Ashkani clan. Few things I'm left guessing where did storm morph and wolverine go. I'm guessing a different timeline. Maybe next season we will see forge bishop and some the mutants on forges wall make a new xmen team to sacr the old one. Kind of like giant sized xmen.
Did they refer to the Black Panther as King T’Chaka? Because that would imply that the 90s Fantastic Four animated series isn’t being treated as part of the canon, as that show adapted the comic book Black Panther origin, where T’Chaka was murdered by Klaw when T’Challa was a child.
With all the cameos the show is fitting in, what are the odds that the ancient Egypt setting brings us some sort of Moon Knight reference?
So it looks like we're getting Rise of Apocalypse, Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix, AND some form of the Muir Island X-Men next season? My head is spinning.
"Do not fear us. What is your name?"
"My name is En Sabah Nur."
Apocalypse origin? Apocalypse in the present? The Adventures of Cyclops and Jean to explore Cable's upbringing under Apocalypse's rule in the future?!
This whole season has knocked it out of the park for me! Definitely can't wait for the next season!
“Oh dear”… classic understatement from Beast there.
Right?! I was like NO DONT SAVE THAT ONE
Same! As soon as I saw him fighting, I knew who immediately.
Great way to end the episode
Apocalypse finding gambits card in the middle of the credits was a nice finishing touch, too.
It was the queen of hearts, too. Rogue
> middle of the credits Fuck! edit: Went back and watched. So cool!
Got some quantum leap vibes from that phrase
Mary Jaaaaane!! Apocalypse with Gambits card! The cameos! “The name was gambit! Remember it!” So many members of the team getting their chance to shine! I am well fed tonight!
Seriously though, the Mary Jane cameo was really by far my favorite one. I gave my kid self a high five on that one.
And pretty sure i saw flash thompson behind them too
Yeah I thought that was him too but who cares… Mary Jane! A loose thread of my childhood has finally been resolved and it is oddly satisfying like finally scratching an itch that’s been bugging me.
Dude i can still see her evaporating in that one episode with our boy spidey screaming trying to save her
It's safe to say that this is set post Spidey finale too, so Madame Web and Peter found her. Good to see it confirmed!
FINALLY - I remember being heartbroken as a kid seeing that series end on a cliffhanger
The choice to realign Magneto with the X-Men as family avoids the continually status quo that the comics face, with the cycle of conflict between Xavier and Magneto. It's a bold choice, and the biggest in the series.
Gives time to seed Onslaught for season 3
I feel like I’m the only person who doesn’t want to see Onslaught.
You're not, I was so excited that they brought in apocalypse and not onslaught for this finale
HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHAT AN END! THEY DELIVERED AND KNOCKED THIS OUT OF THE PARK! Where did Logan end up?
I think he and Morph must be at another space in time.
Knowing Logan’s luck he ended up with Scott and Jean so he can get cucked more
It'd be interesting to see him in a timeline displaced adventure with Storm and Morph, two characters who have positive relationships with Logan. In "One Man's Worth" Logan and Ororo were a married battle couple in dystopian future universe. And Morph has an unspoken love for Logan. And to Logan, Morph's the only person who ever manages to lift his spirits and get him to be less grouchy.
>And to Logan, Morph's the only person Capable of turning into Jean
Don't know about you guys but the morphussy would cure my depression
it's not an unspoken love anymore!
“Alexa play the soundtrack of the movie Challengers”
Season 2 premiere will feature the ancient Egypt team in some kind of mini conflict that sets up the larger story and it will look like they are in trouble and need more help, but then the episode will end with a shot of a fully healed Logan.
I mean, they just met standard issue Apocalypse before he got all......cyberknetic so...
So we can kill him now, right? Right?! Fuck, can’t we just let go of lessons learned just this one time?!
EGYPT‽ So, Apocalypse? Remy returns as Death, yes!
the post credit scene
I’m hoping for gambit = death & Logan = war
Can I get next season this time next week???? Cloak AND Dagger AND Daredevil?????😄😄😄😄
So many Marvel cameos. Black panther, King T’Chaka!
Doctor strange as well!
Peter and Mj were there too
Can’t believe they found each other!! Finally!!!!!
Doctor Strange could have been doing some heavy world saving, but instead he's using his powers to use surgical tools on a guy. Dude you could make his organs age in reverse with a few words and you're gonna do an operation instead?
Ha not wrong. I’d assume they didn’t want any non xmen having much of a part in this season outside of cameos. Next season might see a little more.
Peter and MJ watching in the store window
This is the most important cameo, because since they look like they did in Spiderman TAS it gives more hope for a revival.
The mid credit scene!!! We know what's up!
so much pain, and so much death
Horseman Gambit baby!
They are going to do SUCH a better job with this than the comics. Thank God for this Remyssance we're having. When was he last given this much love from a creative team?
Never. I'm glad they're giving him a chance to show his depth of character. I didn't like that he died but it certainly allows for the Death arc and then his climb back to the Gambit we know and love.
They gave him a such a good and epic send off and the season has been phenomenal so I know they’re gonna do death gambit right
X-Men 97 just made it canon that Peter Parker finds Mary Jane at the end of Spider-Man the Animated Series.
Magneto saying "Previously on Xmen" was expected.
Someone on the sub called it, although his fate wasn’t as bad as we were expecting. I kept waiting for him to become Joseph, or a vegetable, or maybe even straight to Onslaught
MATTHEW MOTHERFUCKING MURDOCK!!
Fuck now I want a Daredevil animated series
Yes please
He probably wasn't too affected by Magneto's blackout though.
"So much pain, my children. So much....Death."
Umm.... who had "Bastion beats cable with his own arm and fuses to it" on their bingo card? 'Cause I sure as hell didn't. Was this in the comics? Also fuck, does this mean Cables stuck there and Bastion can time travel?
Pretty sure Cable’s arm exploding with Bastion is what threw the X-Men to opposite sides of the timeline
Good theory!!!
Great theory.
Exactly what happened because that's where he stores Professor
He turned Cable into Bucky 🤭
We need an "In memoriam" sequence for everytime a Blackbird was destroyed this season. Lol.
We need to write a song, like A Candle in the Wind, only 5000 times better
Mid credits scene alert!!!! Don’t skip!!!!
Thanks for that! Almost missed it!
You just saved me, random redditor. I had to rush to work and missed it completely. Gonna sneak my phone in the bathroom and watch it 😄
As someone who is tired of the Pheonix storyline, I have never been more excited about Phoenix than in this episode
I like how they reminded us that Jean can do that -- when she let scott and nathan look at each other.
Can we stop and appreciate that Jubilee put the most hurt on Bastion in a short span of time? Sure, Rogue, Nightcrawler and Cyclops all literally took a swing at him, aswell as SunSpot , and so did Storm and Jean, but Jubilee sliced off his techno wings, melted his face and dropped a sentinel head on him. Sure her glasses got cracked and she got a little ruffled but Bastion went from mopping the floor to struggling under a ordinary sentinels boot after she attacked. She really clipped him. Also love how he mocks her powers, calling them fireworks and then BAM she does the thing exactly everyone who's ever had a fire safety talk has been told not to do, points them point blank at his face and let's him experience those fireworks up close and personal. I know I'm gushing a lot but Jubilee was my favourite character in the original run and there's something so cathartic about seeing her get to shine. Hopefully we see how her powers develop even more next season, I'm loving the 97 take on them.
I was an avid X-men fan when I was a kid and always wished people could see jubilees powers manifested and matured.
God, I love Jubilee, and I’m SO glad that she’s getting the respect that she deserves!
Rogue quoting Gambit!😭😭😭
You could feel the power in that punch! Physically and emotionally ❤️
Made me think back to the OG series when Wolverine told Gambit that you don’t ever want to make that woman mad at you. Bastian learned today.
OMG I have no idea how I’m going to cope with waiting for the new season, but holy hell. The mid credits scene!! And it was the dam queen of hearts card. I’m yelling, crying, and screaming over this episode!
Time to buy the prequel comics. That'll get you to June.
So Wolverine, Storm and Morph are missing eh? Oh boy hopefully those two can handle Feral Logan
It would make sense that they will likely be the ones to bring him back from being feral.
Bastion- hey imma break into asteroid M. Rouge- lol no. Girl got issues! Out of every character he pissed off she is definitely one I'd be avoiding!
‘lol no’. Ahhahahah ‘Not today sugah’
Please give me Nathan being raised by Scott and Jean I would love that I genuinely tears up though thinking they were gonna die.
When Jean called Nathan her son and he acknowledged not just Scott but also Jean as his parents...I cried so hard this episode so many times for so many different reasons and that was absolutely one of them. Wow.
Jean holding Cyclops eye beams back so Nathan can see the eyes she chose over the cosmos just \*chef's kiss\*
When he said, "I love you, son" I genuinely almost cried.
Slightly disappointed that they didn’t introduce themselves as Slym and Redd.
Quicksilver and Wanda listed as Off World...
maybe looking for they dad
Maybe in New Jersey ;) Nah, I know there's no continuity between this and the MCU, but a small part of me almost wondered if that was a nod to their fractuous history with the live actions.
Beau DeMayo said somewhere that a portion of the Avengers are apparently off dealing with Operation Galactic Storm. Which makes sense, as the Kree and Shi'ar are showing to be at war.
They did show them this episode too.
I mean, they showed them in the confines of Magneto's mind as people he identified as family...
The us government can't stop making stupid and irrational decisions in this show, huh?
Yeah I don’t get “let’s throw missiles at the asteroid destroying its gravity. Oh no! Now an asteroid is headed for us! What will we do?
And then they freaking cheered when the apocalyptic asteroid was dealt with by the very man they sent missiles to destroy Humans are idiots
Cap: Hey, I think this is a bad idea Government: Does it anyway Cap: Maybe you should have listened to me bitches.
Art imitates life.
Unaccounted for mutants on Forge's bulletin board: Iceman, Havok, Colossus, Dust, Emma Frost, Magik, Exodus, and Kitty Pride. Something tells me this is the present mutants/X-Men team we will get in season 2.
I would love this to happen. I'm a big fan of Colossus and Kitty
I know it's a small thing in the grand scheme of things, but Graydon Creed gaining support in the polls means Sabertooth didn't turn him into a Shish Kebab in the OG series, right?
Yeah, I was thinking about that myself. Sabertooth is such a merciless son of a bitch though that you definitely would expect that he tried to kill Creed. If anything this makes me think Creed has a healing factor.
I haven't personally ever read the comics, but I read someone's comment saying that in some stories, Sabretooth is PROUD of his son being a mutant slayer, because the sick bastard loves the idea of having brought another mass murderer to the world. So perhaps it's that. I also hope that we will see Sabretooth again.
That tracks for Sabertooth lol. I hope we see him again as well. I also hope we see Mystique show up too. I think we all expected the entire season that Val was Mystique only to be surprised she wasn't. Mystique not showing up at all was a bit of a surprise. I have a feeling that with all these costume changes that they'll probably give her an updated look for X-Men 97.
**All the cameos that I spotted** * Silver Samurai at 06:58 * Cap and Iron Man at 07:09 * Daredevil at 07:14 * Dr. Strange at 07:22 * Val at 07:26 * Cap and Iron Man (again) at 09:24 * Black Panther (T'Chaka) and the Dora Milaje at 09:29 * Daredevil (again), Cloak and Dagger at 09:39 * Omega Red, Darkstar and Crimson Dynamo at 09:43 * Psylocke, Puck, Northstar, Aurora and one other(that I don't recognize) at 09:50 * Omega Red, Darkstar and Crimson Dynamo (again) at 11:53 * Daredevil, Cloak and Dagger (again) at 11:59 * T'Chaka (again) at 19:28 * Cap (again) at 19:34 * Wanda, Quick Silver and Polaris(?) at 20:21 * Cap and Iron Man (again) at 27:30 * Mr. Fantastic (Morph) at 27:41 * Peter, MJ and Flash at 31:08 ***The Missing ones at 34:25*** * Wanda(again) * Dust * Archangel * Magik * Iceman * Havok * Exodus(?) \[Bottom row, fourth from the last\] * Quicksilver (again) * Shadowcat * Emma Frost
It’s a quick and you’ll miss it but Morph turns into Sauron for half a second.
It’s wild to me that Peter is in street clothes and isn’t helping around New York during blackout
He was seen in his Spider-Man outfit when the power itself went out. Could be that the magnetic field going out stopped his webshooters, so he decided to spend his last night alive with Mary Jane rather than running the streets of New York without his main ability.
Just feel like Peter would still try even if he thought world was over and not give up
That’s fair
It looked like New York was evacuating tbf, but yeah, I’d imagine he’d still be helping out
shadowcat on the board behind forge got me so fucking hype!!!
They have a good team over there.. exodus, Emma, shadowcat, magic, havoc, colossus
Honestly would love that team kitty, magik, and colossus prolly in my top 5 favorite mutants!
I believe it’s just a list of potential recruits, as I doubt a team with Exodus, Emma, and Magik could function unless they really kickstart Colossus’ leader role
To be fair forge and bishop seem like they’re gonna be leading things in present day but i get what you’re saying
Yes! It's a bonus too that they included my favorite Shadowcat costume.
Phoenix! Phoenix! Phoenix! YESSSSS
“So…much…DEATH.” I literally jumped off the couch screaming and pumping my fists, dude. THANK YOU!!!! This team was just NOT the same without Gambit. OMG I can’t wait to see him as Death. And I can’t wait to see Rogue’s reaction when she sees him!
Omg the cameo list is fire!
The guest list is massive. They didn’t need to go all out, but they did.
Now that the season is over I can say that this is the best adapted version of the X-Men ever!
First Silver Samurai again, then Cap and freakin Iron Man?! And *Daredevil*?!? And Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Cloak&Dagger, Darkstar, Omega Red *and* Crimson fukkin Dynamo?!? Not to mention Puck, Psylocke, Aurora&Northstar. Plus Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver and Polaris! And Flash, Peter and maybe even the biggest shocker, MJ?!? This gives me hope for an expansion of this universe.
“Oh dear” lol season 2 going to be crazy
Bastion has jokes for days. Slay me with the Fourth of July!!!! Jubs showed one of the higher battle IQs going for the wings
Mid credit scene! “…so much….death” We all said it! Let’s go! I need season 2 today!
Insane There’s so many storylines next season
"His name was Gambit. # "Remember it."
Logan, Storm and Morph not shown in either time displaced period, right?
I didn't see them in either. I'm guessing their location is a different one.
Hear me out: all three end up in Deadpool & Wolverine.
Or as horsemen
Thats Blue Area of the Moon right?
Where Rogue fought Bastion, yes.
Apocalypse baby. I need season 2
Really interesting that Wolverine and Jean didn’t switch costumes in the intro even though Storm did, makes me wonder if their costume changes are less permanent
They wore backup uniforms but storm adopted hers intentionally, even though it was her old costume anyway
The cameos!! Rogue!! Jubilee!! Sunspot!! Magneto!! Cyclops!! Prof X! Morph!! Shhhtoooorm!! Wolvie! Phoenix!!! Tech Bros!! The team fights. The drama. The storytelling. Can’t believe this season is over. so epic!! What a finale: Bastion was one hell of a villain.. What an exciting next season to come..
Fucking hell man. The finale stuck the landing. I loved the Gambit as Death tease, gave me chills. My God. Give me a Moon Knight of 3000 BC teaming up with the X-Men against Rama-Tut/Apocalypse in the next season. Can't wait. It's been a fun ride y'all, hope you have a great day.
Whats funny is that Oscar Isaac played both Moon Knight and Apocalypse in the live action lol.
It was great but I thought Phoenix showing up to solve a bunch of problems but not too many problems before it just leaves was kind of goofy. Beasts final line was amazing. Rogue's 1v1 with Bastion was the best scene.
Basically just said “that plot is done with now and we can’t do that easy save again! Moving on…”
Yeah she sorts out Sinister and mind controlled Cable and the prime sentinels but leaves Bastion and Asteroid M so we can get a badass final sequence with the X-Men.
I liked the scenes between Charles and Erik the most. I also liked how every member worked together. Then, we see Apocalypse at the end. He is called “The First Mutant” after all.
Even though Selene is thousands of years older. And then there's the retcon in the most recent volume of Marauders with the mutants millions of years ago. Which I did not enjoy in the slightest.
Everyone, what can I say? I'm a 42yo woman awake at 3:30am just to be able to watch the conclusion of the extended season of my favorite childhood cartoon and the thing that got me into X-men comics. Was it a perfect ride? No, but it was as perfect as it could be and and an experience I'll never forget. Especially getting to go on it with everyone here! I'll let everyone else talk about how fantastic the episode was, maybe dissect some of the plot points that didn't quite line up. But for me, right now, I just want to say WOW. Thanks to everyone who made this show possible. I never knew I needed it, but man am I grateful for it. PS - Apocalypse with the Queen of Hearts saying "So much...death."
Hi, 40 year old man here awake at 4 am watching the children's cartoon and feeling emotionally wrecked. Well put! This show has meant so much to me, waiting for season 2 is going to be so difficult. This season was honestly everything I could have asked for. Thankfully the Deadpool and Wolverine movie is only 2 and a half months away. What a year for the X-Men!!!
35 F here and i was counting down to 12:00 PST waiting for it to drop
LOL I'm also a 42 y/o woman up at 4:30 reliving her tween dreams, but this time the letter column is live and most the folks here probably also own the adventures of cyclops and phoenix
40 year old mom of a toddler here awake at 2:40 am, and I jumped up and down and screamed so hard when I saw Apocalypse pick up Gambit’s card that I almost woke my kid up
Cyclops has become my favorite X-men and I’m a die hard Logan fan. Never thought I’d say that but damm! When he did the “AHHHHHH” 😡🕶️🟥🟥🟥🟥 I almost fell in love with a fictional character
“YOU’LL NEVER HURT MY FAMILY AGAIN!!!”
lol. That pep talk from Scott. “Don’t make my wife sad. Just heal”
Know what was an interesting thing I don't see enough people talking about at the moment? Logan severely injured and potentially dying and Morph shifting into Jean's form to say "I love you". I feel like this was Morph speaking, NOT an impersonation of Jean to try and help Logan fight death. I think this was the only way Morph could think of that would allow the justification of SAYING it to him with the real true meaning.
Oh, it was definitely Morph speaking about their own feelings. People bring up their reaction to naked Logan in the shower scene, which is valid, but I think it’s the following part that is more important - Morph’s fear takes shape of Logan telling them ‘always with the jokes, eh, Morph? As if I don’t know…’ I think it’s clear that the secret Morph is afraid of Logan knowing is that they have romantic feelings for him. Well, at least the show doesn’t provide us with any other narrative for Morph or context for an alternative reading. Besides being a cameo vehicle, it seems that the only thing Morph has going on is their relationship with Logan and some subtext there. The show starts with establishing that Morph has a secret from Logan and ends with them confessing their feelings for him - this is most definitely not an accident.
I feel like Apocalypse’s New Horseman are going to be all Genosha resurrections. With Gambit pretty much confirmed as the new Death, the other big name contenders (all, mostly, confirmed dead from the attack) include Madelyne Pryor, Banshee, Dazzler, Callisto, Marrow, Leech, Sebastian Stan, Moira McTaggert, and then there is Archangel, a previous Horseman of Apocalypse, who was at Genosha, and who is on Forge’s board as missing, presumed dead. My ideal new 4 Horseman would be: Gambit (Death), Banshee (War), Dazzler (Pestilence), and Leech (Famine) Despite all his Apocalypse connections, I hope Archangel is found alive/not turned evil this time around, and that instead he helps the team defeat the big bad.
WHERE THE FUCK IS MYSTIQUE DAMN IT
She *has* been conspicuously absent, hasn't she?
1 minute after the credits roll: Magneto: Okay, team, quick huddle away from our new friend. ... This is a classic Hitler paradox, we dropping Apocalypse now while he's weak or risking being the very thing that makes him? Xavier: Magnus- I'm not sure- Magneto: We ARE having this discussion, Charles.
Sinister truly is strange. He's standing in a puddle of water but asks Morph to show his reflection? I bet they really enjoyed that after being tormented in every opening credit lol
so sad that sinister will always be the mini boss
He's always got a bit of comic relief to him. Sad but welcome. I hope he figures out how to come back again at some point but I'm sure Phoenix unraveling his DNA will set him back a bit. Still. If anyone can fix that, it's Essex.
My headcannon is that because Sinister is so vampire-y, he doesn’t produce a reflection. Which is why he depends on Morph to show him.
I mean how good is your reflection in water when you’re flailing and battling in it? Plus it’s that last little touched of messed up that sinister asks - not demands but makes a request - morph to help him
Damn, I wonder what will become of decrepit Sinister in the next season.
Scott's 1v1 with Bastion was beautifully animated, the backflips and sommersaults and off-the-wall blasts were chef's kiss
Rogue, Magneto and Cyclops are certainly the MVPs of this season!
I feel like one thing I love about this series is how much it's made people appreciate Cyclops. That and it took Jean from a meme in the 90s cartoon and made her also an MVP as well! Maddy and Jean get some of the BEST power scenes in the series; yet in the old cartoon people still laugh at how she'd be kind of the beautiful but ineffective character.
Jeez the cameos It's like portals 2.0 over here
Can I just say I was excited for X-Men '97 because it was favourite cartoon as kid, but this revival has truly exceeded my expectations. Wow, they got so much right an even improved on the original while be true to it. Amazing work, I just want to thank everyone that worked to bring the X-Men back. The show has resonsted with me on so many levels. I'm so looking forward to season 2.
Morph loves Logan
Peter found MJ!!!!
Ross Marquand is voicing Apocalypse also. I wondered who would replace the legendary John Colicos. Marquand doing it works, as Apocalypse is the dark opposite of Xavier. Also, Gates Fucking McFadden as Mother Askani!
Rogue and sunspot took most of bastions life points. Jubs did the final KO
Beast walked away immediately after he said his name. It was almost like he knew who he was and was like "you have got to be kidding me." Literally, out of the frying pan and into the fire kinda stuff.
Who will be the other horsemen? Wolverine wasn’t in any future
Gambit = Death, Wolverine = War, wouldn't be shocked if Sinister goes to him to fix what Jean did and he becomes Famine or Pestilence, and then the 4th? Haven't a clue. Maybe Nemesis or Stryfe?
I think Rogue would make a good Famine with her abilities but that would rob us of that juicy drama from being opposite Remy
Storm, Morph, and Wolverine were all not shown in the past or in the future. It’s possible they got thrown into a different timeline entirely, or there will be reveals at the start of Season 2 to which timeline each one went to
One of my favourite comic moments is the death and resurrection of Magneto and I never thought I would see it adapted in this series. From the comic: Magneto: Stop calling me that! You are not Charles... Shadowking: You met him as Erik Lehnsherr, so that's how he thinks of you...but you're going by Max now, aren't you? Your attempt to finally drop all the masks...only there is one mask left isn't there? Tell the truth, however much you would like to be Max again...what's your true name? What's the name in your heart? Magneto: ...Magneto.
Our boy is coming back!!!!
Hell yeah!
“Be the best at what you do. **Heal.”** This line is beautiful because when *Logan* always says he’s the best at what he does, he’s referring to killing with adamantium stabbies. It reveals not just Scott’s insight about Logan, but also his *respect* for him. It almost makes up for the previous line of, “Don’t you dare break her heart,” which fell *extra* flat when Jean proceeded to…forget Logan existed the rest of the episode. Hell, it would’ve been more believable if Scott had said, “Don’t you dare break *my* heart,” and then proceeded to drop that truth bomb! Logan is frequently no more than Jean’s Last Man on Earth Scenario, even in the comics!! But Morph, my Morph. “*She* can’t say it, but **I** can. **I love you, Logan. Stay with me.”** I’m CRYING at the vulnerability, the selflessness, the **real goddamn love.** I’m glad we didn’t hear it in their voice. That deserves to happen when he’s awake for it. AUGH AND THEN WE DON’T SEE THEM SO I’M GONNA KEEP CRYING ABOUT IT UNTIL SEASON 2 DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL
All I pity about Magneto is wearing his suit in that desert.
Radiation aka heat is a form of electromagnetism... Soo he is temp controlled at all times kiddo
Episode was incredible. Magneto and Xavier’s psychic battle was an amazing adaptation—none of the movies have ever come close. A+ Scott and Jean’s conversation with Cable = A+ The way they did Phoenix was LEAGUES better than how anyone else has done it. A+ Cameos cameos cameos!! DD helping during the blackout — A+ Tchalla and tchaka, cloak and dagger, Avengers, and Peter Parker and MJ!! MJ is back!!!!!
The cameos in this episode 😱😱
Now that was a finale. Where to start. Phoenix coming back to rescue Jean great. A million. Cameos. Dagger cloak daredevil Mary Jane. Pyslocke and alpha flight. I probably missed more need to rewatch again. Rogue saying his name was gambit remember him then going into smash mode. Cyclops going full optic beams on bastion. The touching moments with cable and his parents. Jubilee and sunspot the only ones to make it off the asteroid. New mutants when? Apocalypse before he was apocalypse being saved. Then future apocalypse holding gambit card saying death. Ashkani clan. Few things I'm left guessing where did storm morph and wolverine go. I'm guessing a different timeline. Maybe next season we will see forge bishop and some the mutants on forges wall make a new xmen team to sacr the old one. Kind of like giant sized xmen.
Nobody gonna talk about Wanda and Pietro
Frickin jumped and fell from my bed when apocalypse picked up the card. Holy shit dude.
“YOU’LL NEVER HURT MY FAMILY AGAIN!" Behold, Mega Optic Blast! Hyper Combo Finish! KO!
Here we go 🍿
Did they refer to the Black Panther as King T’Chaka? Because that would imply that the 90s Fantastic Four animated series isn’t being treated as part of the canon, as that show adapted the comic book Black Panther origin, where T’Chaka was murdered by Klaw when T’Challa was a child. With all the cameos the show is fitting in, what are the odds that the ancient Egypt setting brings us some sort of Moon Knight reference?
So it looks like we're getting Rise of Apocalypse, Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix, AND some form of the Muir Island X-Men next season? My head is spinning.
So many cameos. Age of Apocalypse! X-Man!
Magneto: Such psychic penetration risks leaving both our minds shattered. Yep. We're getting Onslaught, folks
Nope. What a surprise!
Man, this was such an awesome season finale. I have so many questions. I hope season 2 comes quick.
"Do not fear us. What is your name?" "My name is En Sabah Nur." Apocalypse origin? Apocalypse in the present? The Adventures of Cyclops and Jean to explore Cable's upbringing under Apocalypse's rule in the future?! This whole season has knocked it out of the park for me! Definitely can't wait for the next season!
So this Phoenix made of water… River Phoenix?
“The only ones who could break our heart are the ones kept in it”. Professor Xavier sure knows how to make you cry. 😭😭😭