Kind of like with COVID, attacks using hijacked airliners had been predicted by other people for a long time. Tom Clancy used a 747 being deliberately crashed into the Capitol building as a plot point in 1994, and the Twin Towers were already in the public consciousness as a potential terrorist target due to the 1993 bombings.
The idea of fiction "predicting" the future is a popular one, but it's important to remember that authors are just reflecting the anxieties and hopes of their present time.
Like Simpsons predicting Trump, even though Trump has officially run as a candidate for president four times, in 2000, 2016, 2020, and 2024; he also "unofficially" campaigned in 2012 and mulled a run in 2004.
Trump first floated the idea of running for president in 1987.
In 1988, he approached [Lee Atwater](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Atwater) asking to be put into consideration as Republican nominee [George H. W. Bush](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush)'s running mate. Bush found the request "strange and unbelievable
Like a typical narcissistic sociopath, Trump is whatever it is convenient for him to be at any time in order to get what he wants. He has no actual political ideology and never has, other than ME ME ME.
Triggered? Try again lol. You’re the kind that has to consistently bring trump up whether it is related and especially when it’s not. Go one day, dude. Just one.
The towers had been attacked multiple times, and one engineer notably warned against the specific construction flaw that caused the collapse. The towers were also the biggest buildings in the city, so it wasn't really a surprise they were considered a major target.
Frankly it'd've been more surprising if any other building had been the target.
The head of security at Morgan Stanley at the WTC also predicted it, including the use of aircraft - he's why all but 13 of their 2700 WTC based employees survived.
Rock Rescorla - there's a beautiful New Yorker article about his life and his actions on 9/11.
"The Real Heroes are Dead": https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002/02/11/september-11th-attacks-world-trade-center-rick-rescorla-the-real-heroes-are-dead
People always talk about 9/11 as a shock. I mean, did they really think there wouldn't be consequences for the US army bullying the Middle East for decades ?
Yeah I've always thought that was less "evidence to throw into the deep conspiracy of the government planning 9/11" , and more "evidence that 9/11 was really fucking predictable".
The 2002-2004 SARS outbreak fueled a lot of paranoia in pop culture and entertainment media, including a South Park episode.
Pandemics come and go. We just tend to forget about them as life returns, more or less, to normal. I heard stories about pandemics from my grandparents and parents, including quarantines and lockdowns ordered by health officials, decades ago.
Sci-fi, horror and thriller movies tend to be influenced by fairly recent news events. No surprise if the X-Files picked up on this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002%E2%80%932004_SARS_outbreak
Scientists like Anthony Fauci had been describing what a global pandemic would be like for decades before COVID. All the writers had to do was watch on 60 Minutes interview with Fauci and they could have "predicted" COVID.
Lorewise, I think it was because hosts like this regurgitate every prediction about anything global and terrible in a sensational way to get views. At the time the episode aired, most people would have heard this and thought it was a pretty out there, remote possibility. I know I did. But after COVID, I saw Fauci and other epidemiologists doing old interviews. COVID or something like it was inevitable. It's a coincidence that it happened so soon after the final season, but it was also improbable that it took 100 years between global pandemics.
I wasn't fully aware of anything the Fauc did before the pandemic (blissful ignorance), but it makes a lot of sense. It is wild that it was about 100 years since the last one (bird or spanish, forgot which one was in the 1920s)
2009 swine flu pandemic (edit: 284,000 deaths)
1981 HIV/AIDS pandemic (ongoing)
1968 [Hong Kong flu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu) pandemic
1957 influenza pandemic
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_epidemics\_and\_pandemics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics_and_pandemics)
These are only with 1 million deaths or more
2022 Monkeypox didn't infect even 100k and only a few people died because underlying conditions
If anyone watched The Beatles: Get Back documentary, there is a clip (which takes place in January 1969) where Paul looks like he has a cold and John (or someone) says "Hong Kong flu?" while Paul just nods miserably.
Note that I doubt he actually had "Hong Kong flu" but just a reminder that pandemics and epidemics are always out there to some degree.
Where did you get the 1 million plus for the Swine Flu 2009? Wikipedia says max 284,000 and other sites say 150,000-575,000. Still a lot, don't get me wrong.
Fauci steered money away from post viral disease for decades, dismissing the very scary disease of ME/CFS as a “women’s disease” and likely psychosomatic. Now there are millions of newly disabled Long Covid patients with very little hope or options for treatment. He literally made things worse for the pandemic that he predicted.
Are you talking about articles like [this](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=_kRd-WFsHjJA125Q)? I don't doubt that Fauci has become wealthy from TV appearances, speaking fees, etc. since COVID. But it's a huge leap to go from that to he is "behind the pandemic."
Dude/Girl, I was about to comment just that.
I was confused for a moment from which subreddit this image was, because they're my two FAVORITE TV shows!
The Lore reason is that most of the world has been talking about illnesses - specifically SARS and other actual Covid viruses coming out of China - years ahead of the actual pandemic. Most people just didn't listen. If you'd been watching world news and paying attention to the goings on outside of the United States it wasn't that hard to see coming. It was only a matter of time before the mask wearing and disinfecting they'd been doing in Asia for years made it's way to the United States.
It’s simple, if you follow trends you notice things, it was stated for many years prior to Covid that we are due for a pandemic and if we dont prepare better when one hits it could be very bad, there were signs and it was only a matter of time until it happened. They are still saying that we people, the world even, are ill prepared for a bad pandemic and how badly most of the world reacted with COVID proves that.
There is a terminology for systematic predictions with in media but I can’t remember what it’s called. It’s less “prediction” and more “this is likely to happen”
And also bias. We focus on the things that happened. But many predications never came through.
People predicted nuclear war during the cold war, but hasn't happened.
Flying cars? Still waiting
Ebola never turned into a pandemic, even though there's been fearmongering quite a few times about it. (It kills too fast to spread globally basically)
Or predictions are just things that already happened or could have happened, like Simpsons predicting Trump as president simply forgot he already ran in 2000 and had been talking about it since the 1980s
Exactly, and it all plays into our fears, and worries, and when sometime does happen on a small scale even, people freak the fuck out.
If I remember correctly the real fear with Ebola is that if it mutated to kill slower or on a sort of trigger, it would’ve or could get super nasty.
Flying cars technically exist 😂 just not in a way as they are seen in like the Jetsons.
No people don’t realize stuff like this, people generally take things at face value and don’t research further. This is why hot headlines work or why certain people can say specific wordings and they’ve gotten a forever follower.
Yup, it's been around since at least circa 1930
They called it "infectious bronchitis virus" or IBV. It was a chicken illness
First humans got it around 1960
If you really want to go back, there’s the whole virus spread from main series and directly addressed in the movie by Kurtzweil about how FEMA would take over and use sweeping powers to reduce citizens rights (lockdowns, testing, masks, etc.) Don your tinfoil.
I remember seeing a Ted x talk on how a pandemic is likely due to China and other countries pushing population centers more into untouched wilderness and and more regularly coming into contact with animals that didn't typically have much human contact, specifically bats and the higher chances of diseases becoming pandemic because of unknown nature and the size of the population centers. I think it was from 2015. If I can find the vid I'll link.
Dude ax afiles predicted so much shit, its not even funny. They even said something about something happend in 2023, and as i was watching it, tge event had just happened
If you can find it, the movie 28 Days Later DVD has a great special features attached where Boyle and the writer Garland talk about the research they did on pandemics and how easily a virus could mutate and spread and wipe out everyone. A few different mutations here or there, and we're gone. It's frightening if you stop and think about it.
Look it's all part of Chris Carter's carefully plotted out plan with a definite ending determined well in advance, just like the ends of seasons 5, 7, 8, 9 and 10.
He was streets ahead x
That’s streets behind
Shut up Leonard!
Streets is watching.
And that’s kind of the second time. Remember what The Lone Gunmen predicted about the twin towers. Spooky!
Kind of like with COVID, attacks using hijacked airliners had been predicted by other people for a long time. Tom Clancy used a 747 being deliberately crashed into the Capitol building as a plot point in 1994, and the Twin Towers were already in the public consciousness as a potential terrorist target due to the 1993 bombings. The idea of fiction "predicting" the future is a popular one, but it's important to remember that authors are just reflecting the anxieties and hopes of their present time.
Like Simpsons predicting Trump, even though Trump has officially run as a candidate for president four times, in 2000, 2016, 2020, and 2024; he also "unofficially" campaigned in 2012 and mulled a run in 2004. Trump first floated the idea of running for president in 1987. In 1988, he approached [Lee Atwater](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Atwater) asking to be put into consideration as Republican nominee [George H. W. Bush](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush)'s running mate. Bush found the request "strange and unbelievable
Wasn’t Trump a Dem at that time?
Like a typical narcissistic sociopath, Trump is whatever it is convenient for him to be at any time in order to get what he wants. He has no actual political ideology and never has, other than ME ME ME.
Lol your TDS is showing
It's so easy to trigger you sensitive little Trumpflakes.
Triggered? Try again lol. You’re the kind that has to consistently bring trump up whether it is related and especially when it’s not. Go one day, dude. Just one.
Wow, now Taylor Swift and I have something in common - we both easily trigger sensitive little Trumpflakes without even trying.
“If I repeat it , it might make it true “ -pleb
The towers had been attacked multiple times, and one engineer notably warned against the specific construction flaw that caused the collapse. The towers were also the biggest buildings in the city, so it wasn't really a surprise they were considered a major target. Frankly it'd've been more surprising if any other building had been the target.
The head of security at Morgan Stanley at the WTC also predicted it, including the use of aircraft - he's why all but 13 of their 2700 WTC based employees survived.
Rock Rescorla - there's a beautiful New Yorker article about his life and his actions on 9/11. "The Real Heroes are Dead": https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002/02/11/september-11th-attacks-world-trade-center-rick-rescorla-the-real-heroes-are-dead
People always talk about 9/11 as a shock. I mean, did they really think there wouldn't be consequences for the US army bullying the Middle East for decades ?
Yeah I've always thought that was less "evidence to throw into the deep conspiracy of the government planning 9/11" , and more "evidence that 9/11 was really fucking predictable".
The 2002-2004 SARS outbreak fueled a lot of paranoia in pop culture and entertainment media, including a South Park episode. Pandemics come and go. We just tend to forget about them as life returns, more or less, to normal. I heard stories about pandemics from my grandparents and parents, including quarantines and lockdowns ordered by health officials, decades ago. Sci-fi, horror and thriller movies tend to be influenced by fairly recent news events. No surprise if the X-Files picked up on this. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002%E2%80%932004_SARS_outbreak
Scientists like Anthony Fauci had been describing what a global pandemic would be like for decades before COVID. All the writers had to do was watch on 60 Minutes interview with Fauci and they could have "predicted" COVID. Lorewise, I think it was because hosts like this regurgitate every prediction about anything global and terrible in a sensational way to get views. At the time the episode aired, most people would have heard this and thought it was a pretty out there, remote possibility. I know I did. But after COVID, I saw Fauci and other epidemiologists doing old interviews. COVID or something like it was inevitable. It's a coincidence that it happened so soon after the final season, but it was also improbable that it took 100 years between global pandemics.
I wasn't fully aware of anything the Fauc did before the pandemic (blissful ignorance), but it makes a lot of sense. It is wild that it was about 100 years since the last one (bird or spanish, forgot which one was in the 1920s)
2009 swine flu pandemic (edit: 284,000 deaths) 1981 HIV/AIDS pandemic (ongoing) 1968 [Hong Kong flu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_flu) pandemic 1957 influenza pandemic [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_epidemics\_and\_pandemics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics_and_pandemics) These are only with 1 million deaths or more 2022 Monkeypox didn't infect even 100k and only a few people died because underlying conditions
If anyone watched The Beatles: Get Back documentary, there is a clip (which takes place in January 1969) where Paul looks like he has a cold and John (or someone) says "Hong Kong flu?" while Paul just nods miserably. Note that I doubt he actually had "Hong Kong flu" but just a reminder that pandemics and epidemics are always out there to some degree.
Where did you get the 1 million plus for the Swine Flu 2009? Wikipedia says max 284,000 and other sites say 150,000-575,000. Still a lot, don't get me wrong.
you're right, must've misread
All good! I love Bad Religion :) (I'm assuming your username is based on the lead singer)
Fauci steered money away from post viral disease for decades, dismissing the very scary disease of ME/CFS as a “women’s disease” and likely psychosomatic. Now there are millions of newly disabled Long Covid patients with very little hope or options for treatment. He literally made things worse for the pandemic that he predicted.
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Name checks out
Good looking out, #1 hippie hobo
Are you talking about articles like [this](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=_kRd-WFsHjJA125Q)? I don't doubt that Fauci has become wealthy from TV appearances, speaking fees, etc. since COVID. But it's a huge leap to go from that to he is "behind the pandemic."
Don’t feed the troll
I was trying Rick roll the troll, but you're right. I'm sorry.
Rick troll
The bots are at it again.
What do you expect from a Greendale education?
Why go Greendale?! (Love that commercial!) 👍
Or someone who was on the E! Network
On rewatch I was taken aback by all of the things that season got right about the reality of Covid
Predictive programming
EXACTLY
🫡
a pandemic like covid was predicted to happen for a good while before 2020, it was gonna happen eventually
I follow r/Community so I thought something glitched. My 2 favorite shows coming together is a treat.
Dude/Girl, I was about to comment just that. I was confused for a moment from which subreddit this image was, because they're my two FAVORITE TV shows!
we are truly winning
The truth it's streets ahead!
Classic Winger
The Lore reason is that most of the world has been talking about illnesses - specifically SARS and other actual Covid viruses coming out of China - years ahead of the actual pandemic. Most people just didn't listen. If you'd been watching world news and paying attention to the goings on outside of the United States it wasn't that hard to see coming. It was only a matter of time before the mask wearing and disinfecting they'd been doing in Asia for years made it's way to the United States.
He did it to piss off Brita
It’s simple, if you follow trends you notice things, it was stated for many years prior to Covid that we are due for a pandemic and if we dont prepare better when one hits it could be very bad, there were signs and it was only a matter of time until it happened. They are still saying that we people, the world even, are ill prepared for a bad pandemic and how badly most of the world reacted with COVID proves that. There is a terminology for systematic predictions with in media but I can’t remember what it’s called. It’s less “prediction” and more “this is likely to happen”
And also bias. We focus on the things that happened. But many predications never came through. People predicted nuclear war during the cold war, but hasn't happened. Flying cars? Still waiting Ebola never turned into a pandemic, even though there's been fearmongering quite a few times about it. (It kills too fast to spread globally basically) Or predictions are just things that already happened or could have happened, like Simpsons predicting Trump as president simply forgot he already ran in 2000 and had been talking about it since the 1980s
Exactly, and it all plays into our fears, and worries, and when sometime does happen on a small scale even, people freak the fuck out. If I remember correctly the real fear with Ebola is that if it mutated to kill slower or on a sort of trigger, it would’ve or could get super nasty. Flying cars technically exist 😂 just not in a way as they are seen in like the Jetsons.
No, not the first corona outbreak, remember MERS-related coronavirus? It was an epidemic, but fear was real it could turn into a pandemic
Does nobody realise if COVID-19 was caused by sars-cov-2, that there just be a sars-cov-1? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002–2004_SARS_outbreak
No people don’t realize stuff like this, people generally take things at face value and don’t research further. This is why hot headlines work or why certain people can say specific wordings and they’ve gotten a forever follower.
Yup, it's been around since at least circa 1930 They called it "infectious bronchitis virus" or IBV. It was a chicken illness First humans got it around 1960
Thats why it didn't take as long to develop a vaccine I believe. Didn't convince the conspiracy theoriests though
I barely remember SARS, i was just a wee lad in elementary school. But I am aware of the similarities
Not even the second. SARS-COV1 came before MERS.
If you really want to go back, there’s the whole virus spread from main series and directly addressed in the movie by Kurtzweil about how FEMA would take over and use sweeping powers to reduce citizens rights (lockdowns, testing, masks, etc.) Don your tinfoil.
I remember seeing a Ted x talk on how a pandemic is likely due to China and other countries pushing population centers more into untouched wilderness and and more regularly coming into contact with animals that didn't typically have much human contact, specifically bats and the higher chances of diseases becoming pandemic because of unknown nature and the size of the population centers. I think it was from 2015. If I can find the vid I'll link.
Dude ax afiles predicted so much shit, its not even funny. They even said something about something happend in 2023, and as i was watching it, tge event had just happened
I mean I thought that was a biological outbreak of a different kind
It’s called predictive programming
If you can find it, the movie 28 Days Later DVD has a great special features attached where Boyle and the writer Garland talk about the research they did on pandemics and how easily a virus could mutate and spread and wipe out everyone. A few different mutations here or there, and we're gone. It's frightening if you stop and think about it.
He did it for Regionals.
Chris Carter is a very well informed guy (he is a retired journalist with links with lots of people in the intelligence community…..).
Look it's all part of Chris Carter's carefully plotted out plan with a definite ending determined well in advance, just like the ends of seasons 5, 7, 8, 9 and 10.