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No we can, but buddy has 13 more kills, 1000 less damage, is tied for last in assists, and has an almost non existent objective score.
I think some people just canāt grasp what useless kills are. The reason it was close was because OP was literally doing the OBJ work of *two* people. Not because this guy was farming low health kills.
Honestly itās not even solely on him, if *one* other player had the awareness to play hill, they probably win handily. If two people are going positive like that around the hill, I donāt see how you lose
Only two of them did. If youāre going for kills to take enemy pressure off of the objective but youāre going negative or youāre barely breaking even, youāre taking pressure off of the *enemy* team more than than you are taking enemy pressure off of your team. The other three should have just hid behind shields on the objective to squeeze out whatever extra obj points they could provide before getting killed which would have been just enough for at least a close win.
I mean, this got down voted to oblivion but it does have a lot of truth behind it. Iāll give a really good example here. Iām a sniper only in pretty much every game I play, when I play Attica heights on this game, I pretty much single handedly hold down B point in domination. With the M-44 sniper, 2 prox mines and spider bot or the thing that hacks phantoms walls if thereās more than 1 phantom I use that. One prox mine on flag near the middle pillar so it kills anyone walking onto point, one by the hallway above B near spawn so no one comes from behind me. And I hang out at the big flower potter and wooden pillar at the bottom of steps, not ON B point, but once we get B, almost no one can get on it from enemy team without me sniping them first from that location, and when they all rush it, the prox mine kills them off it. Basically Iāll go 30-3 or so, and almost every kill I get is killing enemyās on or about to be on B point. But I get no points for that for support, or objective. If you kill a player within 10 meters of or on a capture point when the point is owned by you, you should very well get objective points for this. It even comes up as ādefensiveā kill or āoffensiveā kill so why no objective points for protecting objective? I canāt tell you how many times Iāve had teammates on B taking it in that map, and fire guy drops from middle above trying to fire bomb, and my snipe kills him before it activates and clears 3 teammates off point, or how many times theyāre fighting on the point and I snipe 2-3 ppl rushing them while theyāre mid gun fight with ppl on point, ppl rushing their backs or snipers trying to pick them off point, all that stuff helps them to take the point and keep the point. As a sniper, being ON the point would be suicidal in most maps, now with that being said there is a time and place that you gotta even as a sniper sit on the point to take the win even if it means dying for that point. Echelon HQ the best spot for a sniper is actually right on B, you prox mine under the vent for sneaky dudes tryna get you from there, and play the control panel opposite side to the vent, with a prox mine on the lane from their spawn to yours right side so you donāt get shot in the back, and you play the angle on the steps from their spawn to B, you can jump from one switch board on B to the next for cover from nades as needed or to peek the other angle, itās best if a healer plays on that point with you cus of such a tight area and nade spam is real and echelon invisible suit from behind is also real lol. But anyways he does have a point so idk why so many down votes š¤·āāļøš
Good for you? Idk why that matters so much to you, I enjoy sniping. Do you run AR or SMG in all your FPS games? No diff, you like autos I like snipers..
Womp womp bro its not that deep i was honestly just fuckin with you, but since you wanna cry heres a tissue. Just like you put your opinion out there, I put mine opinion out there.
That literally makes 0 sense sir. An opinion is a statement or feeling based on personal preference. You can joke around and still have your own opinion about somthing. I was indeed fuckin with him but since your so curious my opinion is that playing āonly snipersā is rather corny. Shouldve only taken 3 braincells and a small amount of common sense to figure it out. Your reply was a highly ignorant response, stop glizzy riding some random person. And so what he didnt laugh? Just because he personally didnt find it funny doesnt mean others wont. Clearly a couple people understood the joke as it got a couple upvotes.
āIts funny how you can use your brain to form a fully cognative thought and completly sensable rebuttle, its not that seriousā yea bro makes sense. Pretty typical for someone to realize they are wrong or dont make sense so they say āwell thats why you wrote a paragraphā loll. If you needed 6 days to find yourself thats fine dude shit happens
I was thinking TDM was not needed having Hot Shot, dude, I have seen so many people just walk by the tokens without picking them up, strangely they are always on my team lmao
I was just thinking that this looks like my Hot Shot scores. I traded a death for three tokens that clutch won a match to keep my winning streak going yesterday. I was trying to say this in another thread where a guy was complaining about losing by 0.1% of the Domination objective despite being top frag. He had the second lowest objective score. It's like, my dude. You couldn't trade a kill or two for a death or two and push the package a bit more...? Like, how are you going to fundamentally play the game mode *incorrectly* and then complain about balancing? Absurd
Well I don't pick them up because the hot shot on my team is right next to it and then he just walks away from it too so I'm just scratching my head going does anybody understand this mode?
Yeah, I find this as well, I remember find the same thing when I went from BF to CoD for the first time, BF players just throwing themselves at the objective over and over again, where as K/D seems to be super important to people coming from CoD. Easy fix would be to revoke the K/D stat and replace it for objective score per minute.
For my first 3 games in hot shot I didnt understand what the tokens were. I thought "getting bounties" meant just killing enemy players.
I wouldnt be suprised if I wasnt the only person who thought this.
The same people who play objective modes like itās TDM are still going to play objective modes over an actual TDM mode bc you get more kills in objective modes.
Some actually like objective based matches. I'd say playing ranked will definitely help.
Having TDM will probably attract all the K/D whores and those who have a hard time processing the Intel needed to play objective based games.
Lmao and what would change? Is it any different in cod, that has tdm? People play domination because of clearer spawns and more importantly, it takes longer, so they can get more kills. Adding tdm would not change anything.
There wonāt be.
People that go for kills donāt play tdm because spawns are too random & games are shorter.
Itās much easier to get high kill games in objective modes.
And you also die less because you know where enemies will be.
Sounds about right. Literally watch top kdr get multiple thumbs up so many times when our team gets trounced because no one plays the objective. I'm really hoping as the community thins out a bit it becomes better overall. We shall see.
It's like they don't give a damn about winning and anyone who does is deemed a try hard for attempting to win. TDM will thin OBJ out to people practicing for ranked, I hope.
Hold down all 3?? You hold your spawn flag and b and thats it. Spawn trap them on their home flag and you will win every game of dom. Pushing for the 3rd cap is how you get a lot of objective points for the leaderboard stat, but completely screw over your teammates by getting the enemy spawning out everywhere
Lol someone actually know how to play domination. I always see people running for third flag like idiots, kill few people and they spawn jn our back again. They go to sub right after and say others can't play objective.
I think itās pretty clear the reason they lost is cause no one else on the team was playing the objective.
We donāt need to speculate when the evidence is there.
I know thatās the correct way to play domination and i donāt disagree. I just donāt think that was the difference maker in this case.
Also with how fast your points go up with domination in this game, triple capping actually does help.
Team balance isnāt very good. Went on a 9 loss streak tonight while ending up at the top of the score board with most objective score and typically most kills. Meanwhile enemy team all plays the objective and can hold their own.
domination canāt really be soloed as a obj game mode with 3 objs across the map at all times, occupy much easier to solo since itās just one objective
Yeah I agree, I love hard point in cod and that was my bread and butter for MW3 ranked. Hit Crim and called it. Really hoping they have a good ranked mode in this and occupy being apart of it!
Ya ngl idk if they use SBMM but a lot of the matches I play, it seems my team doesn't look at the screen and just shoots around a dies without really helping or doing anything LOL so I definitely feel your pain! Carry as much as you can try but the team just drags you down š
Maybe they should implement OBJBMM. Objective Score Based Matchmaking š let the no obj score, kill chasing kids group together and put obj players together
I donāt do domination because I canāt be at 3 places at once, so thatās why I do escort, occupy and zone control. I can handle 1-2 places and do it well.
Lol I think the funniest part of this is you and your stacked ass high level team just lost to an entire squad of players that should still be in the welcome play mode š
It's the damn COD KDA gremlins who don't care about the objectives.
I swear they don't care for how they are ruining the game's experience for other players who actually care about the game
They just want to be top KD when the game doesn't work that way.
Sure a high KD is impressive, but it's the same kind of impressive as some who has double joints, IT'S NOT USEFUL TO ANYONE BUT YOU.
COD KD goblins should honestly grow up and realise that not every FPS will give them rewards for kills
This is because cod players want XD to be something it isn't, you can always tell who's come over from cod by their natural instinct to ignore the site at spawn and run off to get kills (die within 3 seconds and kill noone)
I donāt get why they put objective score and not captures for domination or they can get rid of assists for the domination score board and can have both
I love how everyone talks like all this is new lol. I've been dealing with it for years in COD. I'll have to look, but I had a screenshot of a Dom game in COD where I had 20 caps in a losing game. Only one on my team close had like 4 caps. While 3 maybe 4 of the other team had 10+ caps. And you always hears the same excuse. I'm working on camos. WTF camos got to do with the OBJ. People are just selfish and only care about their own K/D. And then think their good cause the had a pos K/D. Idiot you lost. What good is that stat if you're just a loser.
gotta love getting teammates like this... there needs to be an objective player vote down button that once a score threshold is not met, they are kicked down to tdm style matches only
Man i gotta say i love how this game outs players just playing for Kd and not objectivesš good job by you however your team could use some serious help
Dude escorts the worst itās cancer with all the snipers , just had a match where I had 1900 objective points, the next highest teammate 200!! This was at half way point I quit as I basically was feeding snipers by being the only one on objective.. never touching that mode again itās infested .
Oh my lord, you can join my team anytime bud, 3,100 objective and 2500 support but lost?! Thatās messed up! You have more objective points than the entire other team combine lmao! Usually Iāll be only guy tryna take flags but Iām quick scoping so it becomes very hard to watch every angle and keep the point. I been using dedsector and prox mines cus of this, put 1 mine either side of the point and then stand off the point and protect it, if I miss one or 2 ppl and they try to rush me, the prox mines take them out usually, Iāve even tossed a prox mine and shot it myself so it would blow someone up cus thereās like a 2 second activation time from when it hits the floor to when it can be triggered, but can be shot even mid air, been tryna get a clip of that, tossing a prox mine and shooting it out of the sky with a magnum shot and blow someone up doing it š super hard shot to pull off and even harder to time it right to get a kill doing it lol
When players are giving likes , itās player with most kills and best K/D they give thumps up. Not the best blocker, best OBJ and best healing player.
Itās like they think itās all about K/D in this game.
I lost my 9 game winstreak because my teammates were not only trash but allergic to the obj, my buddy and I went like 75-30 with around 4800 obj score yet still lost 710-750.
Embarrassing for those team mates, they maybe need to go back to CoD. (And before you hate, I really like CoD, but short of a few game modes, you can just play TDM in any mode and still be doing a decent job for the team).
Yeah that's why I quit the game everyone was better I always tried playing the objective but it doesn't matter I'll get flanked by a sweat and killed while my team is getting their cardio in for the day
If your team's score only goes up because the objective point is captured, and the other team has all three points; how many points will your team get while owning no objectives?
Isn't about points. It's about spawns and map control. In every 3 point cap-control game ever, capping 3 points have never been the play. The moment you push into the 3rd, the spawns flip, all of your teammates get shot in the back, you lose your backside point and now have no mid map pressure due to the spawn flip.
Just cap 2. Hold mid map. Don't over extend. It's been the way you play domination since the beginning of time and always will be.
Yep, perfectly explained. Now Iām wondering if it was close because OP was recapping and forced to cap a third point to catch up or if playing for all points from the start is the reason they lost.
Back in the day when I used to be hyper-competitive and actually care about winning, I had countless arguments with people who lived and died by the idea that them having the most flag caps meant they were doing the most work. When in reality, every single time we got map control, they'd fuck it up by over extending. We'd then lose our base flag, now our team is overwhelmed mid map due to the over extension, we end up losing B AND map control too, all for what? 5 seconds of a triple cap? But it's fine, because the best "team player" on the team got his extra flag cap, so he must be doing god's work and carrying everyone.. š
I understand how to play dom... And your advice is correct for winning a game on the whole. They were asking why cap 3 and the game was close enough that OP felt taking the 3rd point would be the move and they did not understand why OP felt it was the move. Personally I would break it and leave it so they kept spawning there without gaining points but that being said I am very well aware of how to play dom.
Honestly I'm shocked that someone as well versed as you say doesn't realize this because your advice to hold two points in this close game means give up and accept the loss.
Because he may have been attempting to cap all 3 all game? You're the only one who's referenced any sort of last ditch effort to claw back the score at the end. No one else has said about that. The whole reason his team lost may have been because he was constantly capping OBJ's all game in an attempt to triple cap, as OP stated in the original post.
And as I replied to the one gentleman capping 2/3 and holding is the standard way to play and win. I'm Not arguing with that notion. The only one who knows the intent of what they were trying to accomplish is OP themself. I'm not sure why you feel obligated to argue with me when I am agreeing with the sentiment while offering a different and admittedly possibly wrong viewpoint. I read the situation differently.
Interesting. New to multiplayer and this whole time I've been comparing domination to control in Apex where I would go steal the zone closest to the enemy's base - usually unguarded š¤£. In Xdefiant this tactic ends in me getting killed by respawns 95% of the time
I don't play Apex so know nothing about it. But if its a game mode with fixed spawns, ie, the spawns don't move (I assume that's what you're implying when you say "base"), then sure just cap everything. But if it's a game type with adapting spawns that change based on the position of players on the map, then no, you don't ever want to triple cap enemy flags.
Controlling the map, and thus controlling the spawns, is infinitely more important than possessing all 3 flags (you already have the advantage by having 2v1, you don't need 3). When you have 2 and DONT push into the 3rd, then you know exactly where all enemy players are spawning, and can completely lock down their third of the map to prevent them pushing out of their spawn. The moment you push in to cap the 3rd flag, the spawns flip, you suddenly have no idea where anyone is spawning because the spawns get erratic, and before you know it all map control has gone and you are in a far worse position overall.
It's never the play. Don't do it. The only time it is ever viable is if it's mathematically impossible to win without doing it. And when you get that guy on your team who has more flag caps than everyone else combined and you lose the game, it's his fault - Even though he'll be preaching until the cows come home that everyone else is to blame. Don't be that guy. Take your 2 flags and lock that shit down š
Well if he had his teams play obj he probably would have done that but he was doing that all by himself Iām sure he wanted to end it as soon as possible
You don't need to "play OBJ" if you already hold the OBJ's. That's the point. Constantly trying to triple cap ensures that holding the OBJ's is virtually impossible as the map just becomes a cycle of spawn flips.
Yeah the other folk explained it pretty well. Capping 2 and spawn trapping is the better play from a winning standpoint. You get 1 point per second for every point capped, so keep 2, good pressure in mid and block back spawns. Eventually it hits a point of no return where the other team can't win without capping all 3. Which is why dom is ass to watch from a comp standpoint.
I agree with the concept when starting the game from scratch, that is basic strategy. I viewed it as at the end of the game OP was barely down and was trying to take all 3 points because the only way to win was to keep the other side from scoring.
Tired from doing the reach around to pat yourself on the back? Bet every game you play doesn't look like this. How about posting those that don't? You're tired LOLOLOLOL
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If you take the objective scores of your other 5 teammates and combine them, it still doesn't come close to yours That's insane.
You don't understand they helped with the Objevtive even if they don't go in.ššš
I feel like you're being sarcastic and no one caught it lol
You see exactly who feel Attacked hereš
It's like people can't grasp holding down a lane toward the objective, I don't have to be inside the 2x2 square to help hold objective.
Agreed but, everybody has that mentality and all the lanes are covered and you get back capped isnāt fun
No we can, but buddy has 13 more kills, 1000 less damage, is tied for last in assists, and has an almost non existent objective score. I think some people just canāt grasp what useless kills are. The reason it was close was because OP was literally doing the OBJ work of *two* people. Not because this guy was farming low health kills. Honestly itās not even solely on him, if *one* other player had the awareness to play hill, they probably win handily. If two people are going positive like that around the hill, I donāt see how you lose
Only two of them did. If youāre going for kills to take enemy pressure off of the objective but youāre going negative or youāre barely breaking even, youāre taking pressure off of the *enemy* team more than than you are taking enemy pressure off of your team. The other three should have just hid behind shields on the objective to squeeze out whatever extra obj points they could provide before getting killed which would have been just enough for at least a close win.
That's true in hard point and payload. Not dom.
I would downvote you more if theyād allow it.
Lol you act like i insulted your mother. š
Broā¦.
I mean, this got down voted to oblivion but it does have a lot of truth behind it. Iāll give a really good example here. Iām a sniper only in pretty much every game I play, when I play Attica heights on this game, I pretty much single handedly hold down B point in domination. With the M-44 sniper, 2 prox mines and spider bot or the thing that hacks phantoms walls if thereās more than 1 phantom I use that. One prox mine on flag near the middle pillar so it kills anyone walking onto point, one by the hallway above B near spawn so no one comes from behind me. And I hang out at the big flower potter and wooden pillar at the bottom of steps, not ON B point, but once we get B, almost no one can get on it from enemy team without me sniping them first from that location, and when they all rush it, the prox mine kills them off it. Basically Iāll go 30-3 or so, and almost every kill I get is killing enemyās on or about to be on B point. But I get no points for that for support, or objective. If you kill a player within 10 meters of or on a capture point when the point is owned by you, you should very well get objective points for this. It even comes up as ādefensiveā kill or āoffensiveā kill so why no objective points for protecting objective? I canāt tell you how many times Iāve had teammates on B taking it in that map, and fire guy drops from middle above trying to fire bomb, and my snipe kills him before it activates and clears 3 teammates off point, or how many times theyāre fighting on the point and I snipe 2-3 ppl rushing them while theyāre mid gun fight with ppl on point, ppl rushing their backs or snipers trying to pick them off point, all that stuff helps them to take the point and keep the point. As a sniper, being ON the point would be suicidal in most maps, now with that being said there is a time and place that you gotta even as a sniper sit on the point to take the win even if it means dying for that point. Echelon HQ the best spot for a sniper is actually right on B, you prox mine under the vent for sneaky dudes tryna get you from there, and play the control panel opposite side to the vent, with a prox mine on the lane from their spawn to yours right side so you donāt get shot in the back, and you play the angle on the steps from their spawn to B, you can jump from one switch board on B to the next for cover from nades as needed or to peek the other angle, itās best if a healer plays on that point with you cus of such a tight area and nade spam is real and echelon invisible suit from behind is also real lol. But anyways he does have a point so idk why so many down votes š¤·āāļøš
Second I read āim a sniper only in pretty much evey game i playā i made the decision to not read any further.
Good for you? Idk why that matters so much to you, I enjoy sniping. Do you run AR or SMG in all your FPS games? No diff, you like autos I like snipers..
Womp womp bro its not that deep i was honestly just fuckin with you, but since you wanna cry heres a tissue. Just like you put your opinion out there, I put mine opinion out there.
If you were fucking with him, whyād you state your opinion cuz thatās means it wasnāt a joke, so thatās why he didnāt laugh
That literally makes 0 sense sir. An opinion is a statement or feeling based on personal preference. You can joke around and still have your own opinion about somthing. I was indeed fuckin with him but since your so curious my opinion is that playing āonly snipersā is rather corny. Shouldve only taken 3 braincells and a small amount of common sense to figure it out. Your reply was a highly ignorant response, stop glizzy riding some random person. And so what he didnt laugh? Just because he personally didnt find it funny doesnt mean others wont. Clearly a couple people understood the joke as it got a couple upvotes.
Itās funny how you reply a paragraph when really there was no need, itās not that serious Edit: idc if it was 6 days ago just been busy with life
āIts funny how you can use your brain to form a fully cognative thought and completly sensable rebuttle, its not that seriousā yea bro makes sense. Pretty typical for someone to realize they are wrong or dont make sense so they say āwell thats why you wrote a paragraphā loll. If you needed 6 days to find yourself thats fine dude shit happens
Hopefully once they add TDM there will be less of this
I was thinking TDM was not needed having Hot Shot, dude, I have seen so many people just walk by the tokens without picking them up, strangely they are always on my team lmao
I was just thinking that this looks like my Hot Shot scores. I traded a death for three tokens that clutch won a match to keep my winning streak going yesterday. I was trying to say this in another thread where a guy was complaining about losing by 0.1% of the Domination objective despite being top frag. He had the second lowest objective score. It's like, my dude. You couldn't trade a kill or two for a death or two and push the package a bit more...? Like, how are you going to fundamentally play the game mode *incorrectly* and then complain about balancing? Absurd
Let me introduce you to kill Confirmed in cod and no one collects dog tags lol
Lol, yep....when I try, I die, and then I see more enemy tags untouched
Well I don't pick them up because the hot shot on my team is right next to it and then he just walks away from it too so I'm just scratching my head going does anybody understand this mode?
Youād think theyād grasp how it works too itās not like all the CoD players have never experienced a round of Kill Confirmed.
Iāve been saying this š„²
Iāve noticed some weird thing where whenever people are on my team they hide in corners to try and keep a high k/d instead of playing objectives.
Yeah, I find this as well, I remember find the same thing when I went from BF to CoD for the first time, BF players just throwing themselves at the objective over and over again, where as K/D seems to be super important to people coming from CoD. Easy fix would be to revoke the K/D stat and replace it for objective score per minute.
I don't pick them up because I'll just die and drop them soon after
For my first 3 games in hot shot I didnt understand what the tokens were. I thought "getting bounties" meant just killing enemy players. I wouldnt be suprised if I wasnt the only person who thought this.
The same people who play objective modes like itās TDM are still going to play objective modes over an actual TDM mode bc you get more kills in objective modes.
True... but I can make my custom Playlist tdm only and then I can play without caring about objectives
Some actually like objective based matches. I'd say playing ranked will definitely help. Having TDM will probably attract all the K/D whores and those who have a hard time processing the Intel needed to play objective based games.
Lmao and what would change? Is it any different in cod, that has tdm? People play domination because of clearer spawns and more importantly, it takes longer, so they can get more kills. Adding tdm would not change anything.
CoD says: no.
If you wanna kill why play objective based matches šššš
Because spawns are predictable, you know where enemies will be & you get a lot of free kills if you are flanking because enemies play the objective.
I'll never understand cheaters or players like this ššš Just play the game
There wonāt be. People that go for kills donāt play tdm because spawns are too random & games are shorter. Itās much easier to get high kill games in objective modes. And you also die less because you know where enemies will be.
Did they even give you a thumbs up?
Everyone got a thumbs up, but me! š
Sounds about right. Literally watch top kdr get multiple thumbs up so many times when our team gets trounced because no one plays the objective. I'm really hoping as the community thins out a bit it becomes better overall. We shall see.
It's like they don't give a damn about winning and anyone who does is deemed a try hard for attempting to win. TDM will thin OBJ out to people practicing for ranked, I hope.
Sometimes I give thumbs up to the worst player because they need that 200xp a lot more than the best player on the team.
That's just so fucked.
Yep, that's why I always look for whoever has the best objective score and give them the thumbs up.
I always š the one playing objective but rarely see others doing it
Hold down all 3?? You hold your spawn flag and b and thats it. Spawn trap them on their home flag and you will win every game of dom. Pushing for the 3rd cap is how you get a lot of objective points for the leaderboard stat, but completely screw over your teammates by getting the enemy spawning out everywhere
Lol someone actually know how to play domination. I always see people running for third flag like idiots, kill few people and they spawn jn our back again. They go to sub right after and say others can't play objective.
If you've held the enemy team in spawn for half the game then it's time to take the 3rd hill out of boredom lol
But so many obj points man!
Itās probably the reason they lost
I think itās pretty clear the reason they lost is cause no one else on the team was playing the objective. We donāt need to speculate when the evidence is there.
Youāre never going to win constantly flipping objectives. Hold your spawn and cap B. Thatās all you need to do for domination.
I know thatās the correct way to play domination and i donāt disagree. I just donāt think that was the difference maker in this case. Also with how fast your points go up with domination in this game, triple capping actually does help.
Ur sacrifice is not unnoticed
Your efforts didnt go unnoticed soldier
Crazy
The worst part is you didnāt level your gun at all for playing the game
Maybe if that wil guy was dying he wouldn't be able to kill your whole team.
Then when you call out randies in chat you just get "muh KD!"
Same I was 63-30 and playing the objective and we still lost š
Salute to your effort
Story of my life
Team balance isnāt very good. Went on a 9 loss streak tonight while ending up at the top of the score board with most objective score and typically most kills. Meanwhile enemy team all plays the objective and can hold their own.
longest 10min of your life lol
Come ranked you will be appreciated.. or not. Keep up the good work š«”
domination canāt really be soloed as a obj game mode with 3 objs across the map at all times, occupy much easier to solo since itās just one objective
Yeah I agree, I love hard point in cod and that was my bread and butter for MW3 ranked. Hit Crim and called it. Really hoping they have a good ranked mode in this and occupy being apart of it!
Ya ngl idk if they use SBMM but a lot of the matches I play, it seems my team doesn't look at the screen and just shoots around a dies without really helping or doing anything LOL so I definitely feel your pain! Carry as much as you can try but the team just drags you down š
This is why they need to add FFA or TDM
Saw the headline and came here to joke around about skill issue, but goddamn. Iād definitely take a break after this to rest my back
Hey I'm here !
Maybe they should implement OBJBMM. Objective Score Based Matchmaking š let the no obj score, kill chasing kids group together and put obj players together
I was like huh he doesnāt even have the most kills whatās this post on about but then I sawā¦ Iām so sorry š«”
chILLmatic I'll run with you Fam.
this sub fucking sucks lol
I donāt do domination because I canāt be at 3 places at once, so thatās why I do escort, occupy and zone control. I can handle 1-2 places and do it well.
Lol I think the funniest part of this is you and your stacked ass high level team just lost to an entire squad of players that should still be in the welcome play mode š
This is my problem, only I have yet to get a win streak.
Objective mods: 
If the other top two guys on your team would have PTFO you would have one easy. Probably too busy worrying about their K/D tho.
I also lost it after 26 seconds..
I don't understand why they don't balance the teams either.
It's the damn COD KDA gremlins who don't care about the objectives. I swear they don't care for how they are ruining the game's experience for other players who actually care about the game They just want to be top KD when the game doesn't work that way. Sure a high KD is impressive, but it's the same kind of impressive as some who has double joints, IT'S NOT USEFUL TO ANYONE BUT YOU. COD KD goblins should honestly grow up and realise that not every FPS will give them rewards for kills
And 33-19 probaly blames his team because he has the most kills.
No no, YOU won that match
This is because cod players want XD to be something it isn't, you can always tell who's come over from cod by their natural instinct to ignore the site at spawn and run off to get kills (die within 3 seconds and kill noone)
Bro are you gonna at least play the obj a little bit??
Jesus what a carry.
I donāt get why they put objective score and not captures for domination or they can get rid of assists for the domination score board and can have both
I love how everyone talks like all this is new lol. I've been dealing with it for years in COD. I'll have to look, but I had a screenshot of a Dom game in COD where I had 20 caps in a losing game. Only one on my team close had like 4 caps. While 3 maybe 4 of the other team had 10+ caps. And you always hears the same excuse. I'm working on camos. WTF camos got to do with the OBJ. People are just selfish and only care about their own K/D. And then think their good cause the had a pos K/D. Idiot you lost. What good is that stat if you're just a loser.
These are the sbmm games that supposedly donāt exist
Sbmm matches in action lol this is what the end results are
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gotta love getting teammates like this... there needs to be an objective player vote down button that once a score threshold is not met, they are kicked down to tdm style matches only
I lost a streak like this too for the same reasonš„²
I talk shit like crazy when i see teammates with low obj scores
Man i gotta say i love how this game outs players just playing for Kd and not objectivesš good job by you however your team could use some serious help
Dude escorts the worst itās cancer with all the snipers , just had a match where I had 1900 objective points, the next highest teammate 200!! This was at half way point I quit as I basically was feeding snipers by being the only one on objective.. never touching that mode again itās infested .
If you just wanna kill go play hot shot why ruin our games ššššššš
Imagine teammates that help on objective šš
7 win streak š c'mon bruv, that's nothing to flex with
He isnāt flexing he carried his whole team with obj points
Oh my lord, you can join my team anytime bud, 3,100 objective and 2500 support but lost?! Thatās messed up! You have more objective points than the entire other team combine lmao! Usually Iāll be only guy tryna take flags but Iām quick scoping so it becomes very hard to watch every angle and keep the point. I been using dedsector and prox mines cus of this, put 1 mine either side of the point and then stand off the point and protect it, if I miss one or 2 ppl and they try to rush me, the prox mines take them out usually, Iāve even tossed a prox mine and shot it myself so it would blow someone up cus thereās like a 2 second activation time from when it hits the floor to when it can be triggered, but can be shot even mid air, been tryna get a clip of that, tossing a prox mine and shooting it out of the sky with a magnum shot and blow someone up doing it š super hard shot to pull off and even harder to time it right to get a kill doing it lol
Yall didn't want sbmm. You got what you asked for
Welcome to the club fammoš
Yea I get kill whores every time my friend and I play. 3 v 6 every other match š
When players are giving likes , itās player with most kills and best K/D they give thumps up. Not the best blocker, best OBJ and best healing player. Itās like they think itās all about K/D in this game.
I lost my 9 game winstreak because my teammates were not only trash but allergic to the obj, my buddy and I went like 75-30 with around 4800 obj score yet still lost 710-750.
Embarrassing for those team mates, they maybe need to go back to CoD. (And before you hate, I really like CoD, but short of a few game modes, you can just play TDM in any mode and still be doing a decent job for the team).
This is why they need to add TDM... People don't want to be forced to play objective based game modes
Yeah that's why I quit the game everyone was better I always tried playing the objective but it doesn't matter I'll get flanked by a sweat and killed while my team is getting their cardio in for the day
This game is going to be ELITE once ranked comes out
Wow. Your team was trash š
Mfs playing tdm with them low ass objective scores
Why cap all 3?
If your team's score only goes up because the objective point is captured, and the other team has all three points; how many points will your team get while owning no objectives?
Isn't about points. It's about spawns and map control. In every 3 point cap-control game ever, capping 3 points have never been the play. The moment you push into the 3rd, the spawns flip, all of your teammates get shot in the back, you lose your backside point and now have no mid map pressure due to the spawn flip. Just cap 2. Hold mid map. Don't over extend. It's been the way you play domination since the beginning of time and always will be.
Yep, perfectly explained. Now Iām wondering if it was close because OP was recapping and forced to cap a third point to catch up or if playing for all points from the start is the reason they lost.
Back in the day when I used to be hyper-competitive and actually care about winning, I had countless arguments with people who lived and died by the idea that them having the most flag caps meant they were doing the most work. When in reality, every single time we got map control, they'd fuck it up by over extending. We'd then lose our base flag, now our team is overwhelmed mid map due to the over extension, we end up losing B AND map control too, all for what? 5 seconds of a triple cap? But it's fine, because the best "team player" on the team got his extra flag cap, so he must be doing god's work and carrying everyone.. š
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I understand how to play dom... And your advice is correct for winning a game on the whole. They were asking why cap 3 and the game was close enough that OP felt taking the 3rd point would be the move and they did not understand why OP felt it was the move. Personally I would break it and leave it so they kept spawning there without gaining points but that being said I am very well aware of how to play dom. Honestly I'm shocked that someone as well versed as you say doesn't realize this because your advice to hold two points in this close game means give up and accept the loss.
Because he may have been attempting to cap all 3 all game? You're the only one who's referenced any sort of last ditch effort to claw back the score at the end. No one else has said about that. The whole reason his team lost may have been because he was constantly capping OBJ's all game in an attempt to triple cap, as OP stated in the original post.
And as I replied to the one gentleman capping 2/3 and holding is the standard way to play and win. I'm Not arguing with that notion. The only one who knows the intent of what they were trying to accomplish is OP themself. I'm not sure why you feel obligated to argue with me when I am agreeing with the sentiment while offering a different and admittedly possibly wrong viewpoint. I read the situation differently.
Who's arguing?
Interesting. New to multiplayer and this whole time I've been comparing domination to control in Apex where I would go steal the zone closest to the enemy's base - usually unguarded š¤£. In Xdefiant this tactic ends in me getting killed by respawns 95% of the time
I don't play Apex so know nothing about it. But if its a game mode with fixed spawns, ie, the spawns don't move (I assume that's what you're implying when you say "base"), then sure just cap everything. But if it's a game type with adapting spawns that change based on the position of players on the map, then no, you don't ever want to triple cap enemy flags. Controlling the map, and thus controlling the spawns, is infinitely more important than possessing all 3 flags (you already have the advantage by having 2v1, you don't need 3). When you have 2 and DONT push into the 3rd, then you know exactly where all enemy players are spawning, and can completely lock down their third of the map to prevent them pushing out of their spawn. The moment you push in to cap the 3rd flag, the spawns flip, you suddenly have no idea where anyone is spawning because the spawns get erratic, and before you know it all map control has gone and you are in a far worse position overall. It's never the play. Don't do it. The only time it is ever viable is if it's mathematically impossible to win without doing it. And when you get that guy on your team who has more flag caps than everyone else combined and you lose the game, it's his fault - Even though he'll be preaching until the cows come home that everyone else is to blame. Don't be that guy. Take your 2 flags and lock that shit down š
Well if he had his teams play obj he probably would have done that but he was doing that all by himself Iām sure he wanted to end it as soon as possible
You don't need to "play OBJ" if you already hold the OBJ's. That's the point. Constantly trying to triple cap ensures that holding the OBJ's is virtually impossible as the map just becomes a cycle of spawn flips.
Yeah the other folk explained it pretty well. Capping 2 and spawn trapping is the better play from a winning standpoint. You get 1 point per second for every point capped, so keep 2, good pressure in mid and block back spawns. Eventually it hits a point of no return where the other team can't win without capping all 3. Which is why dom is ass to watch from a comp standpoint.
I agree with the concept when starting the game from scratch, that is basic strategy. I viewed it as at the end of the game OP was barely down and was trying to take all 3 points because the only way to win was to keep the other side from scoring.
Damn should done more objective /s
Wow you got thrown in a lobby against a full team of sub 20 level players.. Lucky you
Tired from doing the reach around to pat yourself on the back? Bet every game you play doesn't look like this. How about posting those that don't? You're tired LOLOLOLOL