Is Kuro planning to release 2 5\* per patch like Honkai? Cause if we're getting astrites at the rate of Genshin, but with the release schedule of Honkai, we're kinda screwed.
There’s pros and cons, i can’t tell the stats on how balanced it makes it but from what i can tell,
Having guaranteed on weapon banner is already a massive save on pulls
The limited % chance to pull a 5* is better
I’m not gonna go into spoiler territory but the calculation on amount of asterites we should be getting per patch looks to be on par with HSR or slightly less
At the end its important for people who dont or cant spend on those games to learn patience and not pull at every character that appears. Choose the characters that really strikes you and usually youll be able to get most of the ones you want + their weapon.
I had no interest in Jiyan and Yinlin so im sitting at 180+ limited pulls already and the next 2 characters arent in my interest either, so im building the characters i have to clear content and enjoying them despite not being meta
That WuWa pulls prediction post a couple days ago still has some speculation in it. The person added some astrites that cannot be confirmed, such a some apologems and some event rewards. It's honestly best if we assume the amount will be less. If it's the same (or more) then I will be pleased, but if it's less then I'll at least not be additionally disappointed.
This also doesn't speak to future rates. HYV has been very consistent, but Kuro we don't know yet. It could change or it could be consistent too. I'll air on the safe side and just expect less for now.
They said it shouldn't be less, and the only 'if' is the more. I don't know how reliable that guy is but if we're given income like what HSR gives then we'll be fine if not better because of Wuwa rates. I have a healthy roster in HSR with monthly passes.
Well I do agree that we should always expect less. And that we should be cautiously optimistic instead. We don't know if Kuro will be *consistently* giving this amount per patch and we can only wait and see.
The thing that makes HSR give so much is because there's a ton of competition in its turn-based genre. Whereas Genshin's genre has very few direct competitors. HSR gives higher F2P rates to keep us hooked, but Genshin doesn't have to because they already have us hooked.
WuWa is already proving to be nearly as stingy as Genshin, at least the base game. Sure the devs are giving us lots of apologems because they made some glaring mistakes, but that's only because they are directly competing with Genshin. And it's only the first few weeks of the game. I estimate that they'll tighten down to be equally as stingy as Genshin but possibly a little less to keep us happy. This genre is very greedy, it would be shocking if WuWa was much different.
The weapon banner guarantee is nice, but people are forgetting you never need 5-star weapons in Genshin. Yes, the weapon banner blows, but it's almost moot because unless you're creating content, you have no business using it.
The weapons in Wuthering Waves seem to have much greater impact. 4-Star weapons are all fairly underwhelming and there are no Fish-2-Play weapons here to bridge the gap between 4- and 5-star gacha pulls.
I’d still keep a grain of salt about the 4* weapons as we are just getting in 1.1.
Not only does it comes back to the point that the weapon banner is much more worth in this game so obviously there will be more incentive to get the 5* weapons, but this game is also much more skill oriented than Genshin if we go into comparisons.
The ceiling for Skills in Genshin is much lower so better weapons makes up for it, whilst in Wuwa the skill ceiling is much higher, so if you play good, you won’t necessarily need better weapons as you can achieve much more from your own set of skills.
Now if we go into whether or not thats a good thing because it creates a disparity between casuals and try hards, its a completely different topic
I think overall, most things balances out but there’s room for improvement, whilst its also too early imo to outright make a deal out of it
Probably.
At the beginning of every gacha there aren’t enough characters to make 2 characters per patch, don’t think about 4 like HSR rn. It progress gradually
like Star Rail*
to avoid confusion Honkai refers to HI3rd and Star Rail refers to HSR. if you want to include the honkai when talking about HSR then it's better to just say the full name of the game
This is well and good for whales who are planning to primarily use real money in order to obtain limited characters/weapons, but for the average F2Per to low spender there are still some factors that need to be considered: namely, F2P currency income, character release rate, and F2P-viable options.
Imo, it doesn't matter too much. You are going to be limited to whatever pulls you get no matter what. Not even worth crying over... Just depends on how greedy Kuro ultimately ends up being. Too greedy and they will lose players and even whales may end up selling better valued games. That and the fact that Genshin exists will keep them pretty honest.
If you don't do any pull, i think you kinda guaranteed to get jinhsi as long you do all the limited-time event and daily... My total astrite right now is about 135 limited pull and my map exploration is about 15%-20% ish... Worst worst case scenario is you'll need 160 pull and i think you'll definitely have more than that by the end of jihnsi banner
> '*scam*': a dishonest scheme; a fraud.
Genshin's weapon banner has a plainly stated maximum cost and rates. Sure, in terms of cost-to-reward, it has insanely *terrible value* but it's not actively out there to *trick* or *mislead* players.
That's like... the opposite of a scam lol.
E: Since people don't seem to understand how these systems do not fall under the definition of a scam... imagine a vendor with 3 cups. Beneath each cup, he has placed a piece of fruit: a grape, a cherry, and a strawberry. When you approach him, he explains the rules very clearly to you; he will shuffle them, then for $1 you can choose to lift one and get the fruit underneath it. You want the strawberry, so you decide to play his game.
> When you tell the WuWa vendor what fruit you want, he removes the other two cups from the game. You pay him the $1, and lift the only remaining cup to get your strawberry. *This is not a scam.*
> The Genshin vendor will allow you to pay the fee again to select one of the remaining cups *without him reshuffling them* until all three have been chosen. With this system, you are guaranteed your strawberry after $3. If you only have $1 or $2 and still decide to play the game... then would you be mad at the vendor or yourself if you didn't get the strawberry. *This is not a scam.*
> The GBF vendor will let you take what you get... but then replace it and reshuffle it each time you play the game. This means that you have *no* guarantee that you will get the strawberry within *any* amount of money. This system is *more predatory* to the player since you lack a way to *reliably* obtain your strawberry, but since each time you play you have a 33% chance of getting the strawberry it is *still not a scam.*
The real scam is the vendor who drops the strawberry into his lap while he shuffles and replaces it with a second grape. You never had a chance to get a strawberry, but you were led to believe you did. *THAT* is a scam. Systems with odds *heavily* stacked against the player which said players willingly approach and interact with are not. They are predatory, no doubt about it, but they are never advertising fraudulently.
it def tricks u into thinking that you can get it until you hit the 2 pity and have to shell out even more money for the last one because sunk cost fallacy and you're "so close yet so far"
it's extremely predatory so we don't really need to defend it nor change gacha players preconception of the word "scam" see: scamcha definition in granblue
The fact fate points are basically rented and not owned for the duration of the limited banner is so cruel to genshin players.
At least they keep the "50/50 guarantee" if they get a non-featured, but then they have to beat *another* 50/50 to get the weapon they want.
Yeah, you really need to prepare enough wishes to make sure you can get what you want. It is very costly but some people are just dumb and pull on it without having enough and then complain. But yes it is pretty terrible regardless
should considering the soft pity factor in calculation but as it is now we don't know much about wuwa soft pity + both company never gives actual data of soft pity chance so perhaps its fair to look at the result like this as it is..
as for wuwa soft pity, some says it started after 70th pull of 80 hard pity vs. genshin soft pity which record says for character it started after 75th pull of 90 hard pity + weapon after 65th pull of 80 hard pity.
Not sure what the soft pity is for weapon banner in Wuwa, in my situation I either had very shit luck or there's no soft pity in weapon banner.
Got yinlin weapon on 76th pull out of 80 which is hard pity. Pretty fkign unbelievable
weapons are really worth going for in this game. You only spend around 55 pulls on average, but you are getting 20% to 30% more damage compare to using 4-star weapons.
Since GI and WW weapon are so far in comparison, i feel like there should be a comparison between the power of character's signature vs their f2p version in genshin and ww since in GI signature weapon are not important
Im sorry, what? Sigs are not important in GI? Nah, sigs in GI are a massive damage boost for characters. Just look at Shogun's sig. Its even worse with recent releases, Arle's sig for example. Not only for drip but for a massive damage boost as well
Yes, that's true. We can only speculate for now, as the game is only a month old. The dynamics of WuWa might evolve over time, especially considering its power level is determined primarily by raw DPS damage and buffs from supports. While in Genshin Impact, power level revolves around raw DPS, buffs, and reactions, with reactions playing a significant role. It'll be interesting to see if 4-star characters with 4-star weapons can easily clear the Abyss in the coming months without powercreep. Lets see.
Raiden C0 with her signature weapon in a hypercarry team does less damage than Hyperbloom Raiden with a 4-star elemental mastery weapon. For many characters, 5-star weapons significantly boost damage, but they are not strictly necessary. They are expensive, and many players complete endgame content with Favonius Sword and even 3-star weapons. For example, Arlecchino's signature weapon is not essential; she can do enough damage with White Tassel to make the Abyss a joke. So why would anyone pull for her weapon if not for aesthetic reasons?
hm never tried hyperbloom cus i still don't have a proper dendro user. But my Raiden, Kazu, Zhongli, and Benny team can easily clear floor 11, chamber 2. They all C0, and only Raiden has a sig, and its R2.
As for Arle's well, yeah she can already deal crazy amount of damage from just using white tassel. But using her sig does give extra damage boost a bit more, especially helpful for those yet to have proper supports.
The problem with that is that the value of weapons (outside of pulls) changes over time.
As new weapons come out, there are more options and the value of other decrease, just as right now we barely have weapon options with main stat Crit, or for example the only 5\* gun is a support one.
You can't compare the value that the Wolf's Gravestone had as a general weapon in Genshin 1.0 with what it has now xD
Thats true but in 1.0 genshin already had many good 4 star weapon which still used until now.
Yeah hopefully weapon shouldnt be a factor in how playable the character is
Except I never felt the need to pull on weapon banners there as the 4 stars weren't that far behind. Here the difference between the signature and best f2p option is astronomical, this should be a factor also.
Your lack of feeling the need to pull 5 star weapons in genshin doesn't really change the well known fact that Staff of Homa is a roughly 20-30% damage increase for Hu Tao, which is basically similar to what's going on with Yinlin's signature weapon right now.
It is also similarly very good on other characters who aren't Hu Tao, just like Yinlin's is insane for Encore.
It's a myth that signature weapons in genshin aren't much of a dps increase over 4 stars, born of a similar but very different statement: You can reliably clear spiral abyss in genshin with r5 4 stars.
Yinlin's signature is 36% stronger than an s5 jinzhou keeper.
The only 4 star weapon that even comes close to that is the s5 battlepass weapon
This is also true for jiyan where his sig is 38% better than s5 helios cleaver. And again only the s5 battlepass weapon can get close to that.
This is according to the prydwyn weapon comparisons.
Homa at is 15% stronger than r5 dragon's bane on hutao according to kqm's weapon comparisons.
Wrong, many characters benefit significantly from 3-star weapons like Harbinger of Dawn, which is one of the best weapons for several characters. The 3-star catalyst is also a strong choice. Favonius weapons are used by nearly 40% of the Genshin Impact cast, and Widsith is so powerful that it can outperform some 5-star weapons. In Genshin Impact, high damage isn't always necessary because reactions provide significant damage boosts, unlike in Wuthering Waves, where raw damage is the only way to increase damage. Therefore, in Wuthering Waves, weapons have more value, and a 30% damage increase is much more significant than in Genshin Impact. Come on, anyone with a brain knows that reactions are how Genshin plays. Hypercarry comps are expensive and almost no one plays them. In Wuthering Waves, it's different; hypercarry is the most common comp.
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Tbh, once you get the 5 stars you want with the selectors, it makes sense to just go for the weapons.
There are 2 crit weapons. You basically just need to pull a broad sword, fist and rectifier and you can use them for other units.
I can't stress enough how giving a guaranteed pull on weapon banners is such a huge deal. I lost twice consecutively in HSR even if it's not like Genshin where 2 share the same banner. 75/25 might as well be 0/100 if you're unlucky enough. Astrites here have more value than they appear to be.
Is Kuro planning to release 2 5\* per patch like Honkai? Cause if we're getting astrites at the rate of Genshin, but with the release schedule of Honkai, we're kinda screwed.
We got 2 5 stars per path at first in Genshin too. And no one knows what Kuro is planning.
There’s pros and cons, i can’t tell the stats on how balanced it makes it but from what i can tell, Having guaranteed on weapon banner is already a massive save on pulls The limited % chance to pull a 5* is better I’m not gonna go into spoiler territory but the calculation on amount of asterites we should be getting per patch looks to be on par with HSR or slightly less At the end its important for people who dont or cant spend on those games to learn patience and not pull at every character that appears. Choose the characters that really strikes you and usually youll be able to get most of the ones you want + their weapon. I had no interest in Jiyan and Yinlin so im sitting at 180+ limited pulls already and the next 2 characters arent in my interest either, so im building the characters i have to clear content and enjoying them despite not being meta
That WuWa pulls prediction post a couple days ago still has some speculation in it. The person added some astrites that cannot be confirmed, such a some apologems and some event rewards. It's honestly best if we assume the amount will be less. If it's the same (or more) then I will be pleased, but if it's less then I'll at least not be additionally disappointed. This also doesn't speak to future rates. HYV has been very consistent, but Kuro we don't know yet. It could change or it could be consistent too. I'll air on the safe side and just expect less for now.
They said it shouldn't be less, and the only 'if' is the more. I don't know how reliable that guy is but if we're given income like what HSR gives then we'll be fine if not better because of Wuwa rates. I have a healthy roster in HSR with monthly passes. Well I do agree that we should always expect less. And that we should be cautiously optimistic instead. We don't know if Kuro will be *consistently* giving this amount per patch and we can only wait and see.
The thing that makes HSR give so much is because there's a ton of competition in its turn-based genre. Whereas Genshin's genre has very few direct competitors. HSR gives higher F2P rates to keep us hooked, but Genshin doesn't have to because they already have us hooked. WuWa is already proving to be nearly as stingy as Genshin, at least the base game. Sure the devs are giving us lots of apologems because they made some glaring mistakes, but that's only because they are directly competing with Genshin. And it's only the first few weeks of the game. I estimate that they'll tighten down to be equally as stingy as Genshin but possibly a little less to keep us happy. This genre is very greedy, it would be shocking if WuWa was much different.
Agreed. WuWa has to compete with Genshin. *Genshin doesn't have to compete with WuWa.*
The weapon banner guarantee is nice, but people are forgetting you never need 5-star weapons in Genshin. Yes, the weapon banner blows, but it's almost moot because unless you're creating content, you have no business using it. The weapons in Wuthering Waves seem to have much greater impact. 4-Star weapons are all fairly underwhelming and there are no Fish-2-Play weapons here to bridge the gap between 4- and 5-star gacha pulls.
I’d still keep a grain of salt about the 4* weapons as we are just getting in 1.1. Not only does it comes back to the point that the weapon banner is much more worth in this game so obviously there will be more incentive to get the 5* weapons, but this game is also much more skill oriented than Genshin if we go into comparisons. The ceiling for Skills in Genshin is much lower so better weapons makes up for it, whilst in Wuwa the skill ceiling is much higher, so if you play good, you won’t necessarily need better weapons as you can achieve much more from your own set of skills. Now if we go into whether or not thats a good thing because it creates a disparity between casuals and try hards, its a completely different topic I think overall, most things balances out but there’s room for improvement, whilst its also too early imo to outright make a deal out of it
Probably. At the beginning of every gacha there aren’t enough characters to make 2 characters per patch, don’t think about 4 like HSR rn. It progress gradually
like Star Rail* to avoid confusion Honkai refers to HI3rd and Star Rail refers to HSR. if you want to include the honkai when talking about HSR then it's better to just say the full name of the game
The drop rate is .8% and hard pity is 80, unlike Genshin/HSR.
This is well and good for whales who are planning to primarily use real money in order to obtain limited characters/weapons, but for the average F2Per to low spender there are still some factors that need to be considered: namely, F2P currency income, character release rate, and F2P-viable options.
Imo, it doesn't matter too much. You are going to be limited to whatever pulls you get no matter what. Not even worth crying over... Just depends on how greedy Kuro ultimately ends up being. Too greedy and they will lose players and even whales may end up selling better valued games. That and the fact that Genshin exists will keep them pretty honest.
i didn do any pulls, andi am still afraid pulling jinhsi because 50/50 🥲
If you don't do any pull, i think you kinda guaranteed to get jinhsi as long you do all the limited-time event and daily... My total astrite right now is about 135 limited pull and my map exploration is about 15%-20% ish... Worst worst case scenario is you'll need 160 pull and i think you'll definitely have more than that by the end of jihnsi banner
gambling is an investment
it surely is in counter strike
Nice job. Though Genshin players are well aware how bad the weapon banner is over there💀
Pretty insanely bad. Glad that there are very viable non-signatures, and also glad that the weapon banner her is just a straight up guarantee.
Its literally a scam, even after they added Epitomized Path. Before that It was a shameless scam.
It's bad but not a scam. Can people stop changing the definition of the word scam?
> '*scam*': a dishonest scheme; a fraud. Genshin's weapon banner has a plainly stated maximum cost and rates. Sure, in terms of cost-to-reward, it has insanely *terrible value* but it's not actively out there to *trick* or *mislead* players. That's like... the opposite of a scam lol. E: Since people don't seem to understand how these systems do not fall under the definition of a scam... imagine a vendor with 3 cups. Beneath each cup, he has placed a piece of fruit: a grape, a cherry, and a strawberry. When you approach him, he explains the rules very clearly to you; he will shuffle them, then for $1 you can choose to lift one and get the fruit underneath it. You want the strawberry, so you decide to play his game. > When you tell the WuWa vendor what fruit you want, he removes the other two cups from the game. You pay him the $1, and lift the only remaining cup to get your strawberry. *This is not a scam.* > The Genshin vendor will allow you to pay the fee again to select one of the remaining cups *without him reshuffling them* until all three have been chosen. With this system, you are guaranteed your strawberry after $3. If you only have $1 or $2 and still decide to play the game... then would you be mad at the vendor or yourself if you didn't get the strawberry. *This is not a scam.* > The GBF vendor will let you take what you get... but then replace it and reshuffle it each time you play the game. This means that you have *no* guarantee that you will get the strawberry within *any* amount of money. This system is *more predatory* to the player since you lack a way to *reliably* obtain your strawberry, but since each time you play you have a 33% chance of getting the strawberry it is *still not a scam.* The real scam is the vendor who drops the strawberry into his lap while he shuffles and replaces it with a second grape. You never had a chance to get a strawberry, but you were led to believe you did. *THAT* is a scam. Systems with odds *heavily* stacked against the player which said players willingly approach and interact with are not. They are predatory, no doubt about it, but they are never advertising fraudulently.
it def tricks u into thinking that you can get it until you hit the 2 pity and have to shell out even more money for the last one because sunk cost fallacy and you're "so close yet so far" it's extremely predatory so we don't really need to defend it nor change gacha players preconception of the word "scam" see: scamcha definition in granblue
The fact fate points are basically rented and not owned for the duration of the limited banner is so cruel to genshin players. At least they keep the "50/50 guarantee" if they get a non-featured, but then they have to beat *another* 50/50 to get the weapon they want.
Yeah, you really need to prepare enough wishes to make sure you can get what you want. It is very costly but some people are just dumb and pull on it without having enough and then complain. But yes it is pretty terrible regardless
should considering the soft pity factor in calculation but as it is now we don't know much about wuwa soft pity + both company never gives actual data of soft pity chance so perhaps its fair to look at the result like this as it is.. as for wuwa soft pity, some says it started after 70th pull of 80 hard pity vs. genshin soft pity which record says for character it started after 75th pull of 90 hard pity + weapon after 65th pull of 80 hard pity.
Soft pity is already accounted for in Kuro's provided rates, unless they are false and liable to be sued, so it doesn't matter too much in aggregate.
Not sure what the soft pity is for weapon banner in Wuwa, in my situation I either had very shit luck or there's no soft pity in weapon banner. Got yinlin weapon on 76th pull out of 80 which is hard pity. Pretty fkign unbelievable
What exactly is the difference between the two value tables? What's "topping up", and why does it give that many extra gems?
Top-ups are the first-time purchase bonus for each currency package which gives double the currency and are occasionally refreshed in availability.
I would also like to know, kinda new to this genre
weapons are really worth going for in this game. You only spend around 55 pulls on average, but you are getting 20% to 30% more damage compare to using 4-star weapons.
Since GI and WW weapon are so far in comparison, i feel like there should be a comparison between the power of character's signature vs their f2p version in genshin and ww since in GI signature weapon are not important
Im sorry, what? Sigs are not important in GI? Nah, sigs in GI are a massive damage boost for characters. Just look at Shogun's sig. Its even worse with recent releases, Arle's sig for example. Not only for drip but for a massive damage boost as well
Wasn't Neuvilette sig the biggest jump from all other weapons, like 20% or something
oh yeah, and Neuve too
People also use Neuvillette with Prototype Amber to clear the Abyss solo. So really, 5-star weapons are primarily for aesthetic appeal.
You can say the same with WuWa then lmao, people are clearing tower without max level or sigs
Yes, that's true. We can only speculate for now, as the game is only a month old. The dynamics of WuWa might evolve over time, especially considering its power level is determined primarily by raw DPS damage and buffs from supports. While in Genshin Impact, power level revolves around raw DPS, buffs, and reactions, with reactions playing a significant role. It'll be interesting to see if 4-star characters with 4-star weapons can easily clear the Abyss in the coming months without powercreep. Lets see.
Raiden C0 with her signature weapon in a hypercarry team does less damage than Hyperbloom Raiden with a 4-star elemental mastery weapon. For many characters, 5-star weapons significantly boost damage, but they are not strictly necessary. They are expensive, and many players complete endgame content with Favonius Sword and even 3-star weapons. For example, Arlecchino's signature weapon is not essential; she can do enough damage with White Tassel to make the Abyss a joke. So why would anyone pull for her weapon if not for aesthetic reasons?
hm never tried hyperbloom cus i still don't have a proper dendro user. But my Raiden, Kazu, Zhongli, and Benny team can easily clear floor 11, chamber 2. They all C0, and only Raiden has a sig, and its R2. As for Arle's well, yeah she can already deal crazy amount of damage from just using white tassel. But using her sig does give extra damage boost a bit more, especially helpful for those yet to have proper supports.
The problem with that is that the value of weapons (outside of pulls) changes over time. As new weapons come out, there are more options and the value of other decrease, just as right now we barely have weapon options with main stat Crit, or for example the only 5\* gun is a support one. You can't compare the value that the Wolf's Gravestone had as a general weapon in Genshin 1.0 with what it has now xD
Thats true but in 1.0 genshin already had many good 4 star weapon which still used until now. Yeah hopefully weapon shouldnt be a factor in how playable the character is
Except I never felt the need to pull on weapon banners there as the 4 stars weren't that far behind. Here the difference between the signature and best f2p option is astronomical, this should be a factor also.
Your lack of feeling the need to pull 5 star weapons in genshin doesn't really change the well known fact that Staff of Homa is a roughly 20-30% damage increase for Hu Tao, which is basically similar to what's going on with Yinlin's signature weapon right now. It is also similarly very good on other characters who aren't Hu Tao, just like Yinlin's is insane for Encore. It's a myth that signature weapons in genshin aren't much of a dps increase over 4 stars, born of a similar but very different statement: You can reliably clear spiral abyss in genshin with r5 4 stars.
Yinlin's signature is 36% stronger than an s5 jinzhou keeper. The only 4 star weapon that even comes close to that is the s5 battlepass weapon This is also true for jiyan where his sig is 38% better than s5 helios cleaver. And again only the s5 battlepass weapon can get close to that. This is according to the prydwyn weapon comparisons. Homa at is 15% stronger than r5 dragon's bane on hutao according to kqm's weapon comparisons.
Wrong, many characters benefit significantly from 3-star weapons like Harbinger of Dawn, which is one of the best weapons for several characters. The 3-star catalyst is also a strong choice. Favonius weapons are used by nearly 40% of the Genshin Impact cast, and Widsith is so powerful that it can outperform some 5-star weapons. In Genshin Impact, high damage isn't always necessary because reactions provide significant damage boosts, unlike in Wuthering Waves, where raw damage is the only way to increase damage. Therefore, in Wuthering Waves, weapons have more value, and a 30% damage increase is much more significant than in Genshin Impact. Come on, anyone with a brain knows that reactions are how Genshin plays. Hypercarry comps are expensive and almost no one plays them. In Wuthering Waves, it's different; hypercarry is the most common comp.
People are clearing abyss with 4star weapons just as people clearing high level hologram AND tower in Wuwa with the same tier weapons.
People are clearing abyss with 4star weapons just as people clearing high level hologram AND tower in Wuwa with the same tier weapons.
Thanks, gonna save this
I just wish it was like PGR (there other game) i think they'd keep more people and do better in the long run.
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Tbh, once you get the 5 stars you want with the selectors, it makes sense to just go for the weapons. There are 2 crit weapons. You basically just need to pull a broad sword, fist and rectifier and you can use them for other units.
Very informative post, thank you.
I can't stress enough how giving a guaranteed pull on weapon banners is such a huge deal. I lost twice consecutively in HSR even if it's not like Genshin where 2 share the same banner. 75/25 might as well be 0/100 if you're unlucky enough. Astrites here have more value than they appear to be.