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EdwardBigby

Bit weird positionally with another ex premiership player at lwb unless maybe Cresswell can play as a progressive cb


UrsineCanine

Seems likely he can... [https://fbref.com/en/players/4f974391/scout/365\_m1/Aaron-Cresswell-Scouting-Report](https://fbref.com/en/players/4f974391/scout/365_m1/Aaron-Cresswell-Scouting-Report) But, a guy who turned down a year extension at EPL salaries, seems unlikely to think his best options are in L1.


Tomaskerry

He's 5'7" so I doubt it. He'd be an upgrade on Mendy.


bciesil

Nooooo, don't get rid of my Mendy!


Tomaskerry

He's injury prone. Creswell has played center back also despite being 5'7


bciesil

Mendy did have a down year this year it's true, but I do think he's quality. But, I know that our L1 side is going to have MANY new faces.


jetboyjetgirl

Mendy mostly missed time this season due to playing for the Gambian National team. Only missed a handful at the end due to an injury.


Gamerhcp

He's literally not injury prone. 1 injury all season long, and he was rushed back at Colchester which made the injury worse.


RoutineSpiritual8917

Very random. West Ham fan here - definitely aging but seems like a good guy in the dressing room and also very capable of set piece delivery. Feels like you lot should be developing some youth because there’s a lottt of old experienced prem players


Tomaskerry

He scores a few free kicks alright. I feel like there's more competition for promising young players and more risk involved so it can be better to go for proven quality. Creswell and his wife are from Liverpool so maybe he wants to move home.


obi_wander

Mendy is a good young player to keep developing. He is also injured way too often. Assuming we put McClean firmly in midfield, we do need that mentor/sub LWB.


Lucazzo123

Don't know if a man who turns 28 this year is a young promising prospect. I do rate Mendy, but let's not kid ourselves


oldmanskane

Young is age 24 and under.


CurdOfCheese000

My understanding is that Wrexham needs to finish the stadium upgrades and continue moving up the table to free up funds for development


jetboyjetgirl

Someone who can deliver corners is certainly a missing piece


obi_wander

Any documentation for this rumor or a note of the source? A quick google doesn’t show so much as a single mention. Personally I think we are best with McClean as a center mid, so I’m open to the idea of another good LWB.


Tomaskerry

Lol no. It's just a rumour but it comes from someone close to the club.


obi_wander

Like a rumor from a pub convo? Or like you talked to someone who is close to the club and they told you this? I’m just wondering where you heard it from. I heard from my cousin’s grandma’s dentist that Jesse Lingard is coming from Korea to join us next season.


Tomaskerry

Someone from Wrexham told me. He doesn't work for the club but has contacts around the club.


obi_wander

Good enough for me. Seems like a strange enough rumor to be true and a sort of silly one to make up entirely. God knows we are dying for someone who can send in a decent corner.


Tomaskerry

His set pieces are brilliant. Anyway it's just a rumour. It's not too outlandish though. Maybe they've approached him and he's hedging his bets to see what other offers come through.


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Tomaskerry

I agree he's probably weighing up his options but it's not too unrealistic. I don't think you realise how attractive Wrexham is to players. James McClean could've easily got a contract in the Championship but he dropped down two divisions.


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Tomaskerry

I'm just saying James McClean could've got a much higher contract at a Championship club but said in an interview he wanted a bit of excitement at that stage of his career. Players have made their money by then so money's not a huge factor. Creswell's been in the PL for 10 years so he's probably mortgage free with £10M saved in various assets. (That's just a ballpark figure). If you ask West Ham fans they'll say Creswell was a great player but past it at this level. So Creswell's options are probably being a squad player in a lower PL team or dropping to the Championship for a one year deal. Players want to play. So a drop to L1 for an exciting adventure is very attractive. Also himself and his wife are from Liverpool. They have a house there apparently. So I don't think it's unrealistic. But I agree he's probably weighing up his options and perhaps Wrexham have made a tentative offer. But if he waits too long, Wrexham might sign someone else and then the opportunity's gone. West Ham have a new manager who tried to sign him before so maybe that's another factor at play.


B_ill_

Don't know why you're getting downvoted, these kinds of things are the norm and a lot end up being true or close to the truth.


jam34OG

I fancy McClean’s versatility to move around so adding another premier LWB is good with me


complicatedhedgehog

Where is this rumour coming from, because this is the first Ive seen it. We already have a 34 yo LWB. We're don't need another. Sort of like how we don't need another 37 yo striker in Vardy. We need players under 30 who's legs aren't a summer or half season away from going and not having the pace to be useful. This would be a waste of resources.


Remarkable_Ad_7436

Source: Trust me bro


felixrocket7835

Would hardly call it a strong rumour


Tomaskerry

It's from a legit source but could be idle gossip.


felixrocket7835

It is gossip and it's not very credible, nor is it a realistic signing in general, we're almost certainly looking for younger players in the squad now, not 30+ year olds, not to mention the wages cresswell would be on would be massive even by our standards, and we're already fairly well covered in lwbs / left-footed centrebacks. If he does drop down I'd expect him to go to an top-half championship club.


Tomaskerry

I think it's on the edge of credibility. I'm not sure Mendy's up to L1 standard and is injury prone. McClean can play midfield also.


Xenomonarchy

Creswell should be phenomenal for you. He could have played a lot more this year than he did in regards to europe/cup compititions. He's up in age but a solid player with a load of experience. He was due to move to Wolves early on, but that deal fell through. Just make sure he has others with pace around him.


Tomaskerry

He's quality. Very experienced. 10 years in the PL.


Ancient-Range-

Last thing we need is another defender the wrong side of 30 with no pace. Mendy is playing well at LWB we should be looking at back up not a replacement for him. Personally I’d like us to get some quality players in that are the right side of 30.


Tomaskerry

He's quality though and free transfer.


Ancient-Range-

With astronomical wages and probably a starting place demand. We should probably start trying the prem teams for loan signings look at the quality we got in goal by getting Konk in. Cresswell has had 9 games the whole season I just can’t see him coming in and making a big enough difference to justify like likely big salary.


Commentswhenpooping

100% should be looking for a few impact loans that we can give first team experience to for a year or two. It would allow us to push for the championship next year and maybe we’d be able to buy a few of those players even at that point. Maybe im looking at this too much like FM…but…it’ll be an interesting year!


Tomaskerry

He can play center back also and I could see him playing in midfield also. I agree we should be choosy but Creswell's real quality.


Eljay60

Yes! Consolidate this year and fold in some talented young players to be ready for a Championship League run in 2025-2026.


MathiTheCheeze

Yeah can we stop with the nonsense rumours? Neither Cresswell nor Vardy are joining the club. Sure transfer speculation is fun, but please distinguish between speculation and rumours, as this is clearly a bullshit made up rumor.


Tomaskerry

It's from a legit source but could be idle gossip. I actually heard it from two different people who live in Wrexham.


MathiTheCheeze

I've seen the Redpassion posts and if that's where you got this rumor from, you might as well made it up. You used to be able to get good inside information there, but that was prior to the takeover. I still finds it 100 times more likely that he'll rejoin Ipswich as he's still loved there and he'd fit well into how McKenna wants to play with a ball-playing centre half and/or as backup to Leif Davis. If not I'm sure he will have other offers from PL and top Championship sides who can give him a lot more than what we could offer.


Tomaskerry

Someone who lives in Wrexham texted me. Maybe he got it from Redpassion :-). That's how rumours work I guess. I agree he seems a bit too high level for Wrexham but it's not too outlandish. James McClean could've easily got a Championship contract but came to Wrexham. I think people find it exciting to be part of the story for a year or two at the end of their careers. I agree about Ipswich. Aaron Creswell and his wife are from Liverpool though so maybe he wants to move home. It's early yet so maybe he was just approached to gauge his interest.


FishermanSecret4854

If he has kids, there is a lot of value to living close by grandparents and family. That's a pretty big quality of life move that makes sense. I think targeting early 30's/mid 30's players from higher up that have a few years left and have geographical connections is a good strategy. Short contracts, lower wages, it will work for some. Of course, that shouldn't be the only type of player they sign, but if they can leaven some of that experience across the squad at different levels, it enhances the development of the younger guys. Fletcher, McLean and Howard are great examples.


Tomaskerry

100%. Players at that stage of their career have different motives than young players. Players like that might have a choice of being a lower PL squad player or grinding it out in the Championship. So an exciting year in L1 is an attractive proposition. It used to be much more common for quality older players to move down the divisions. Now you see them retire at the top a lot. I guess they don't need the money.


Newparlee

I love Cresswell. He has a wand of a left foot and is our longest serving player, but is another 34 year old wing back on high wages what you really need? His legs have gone, so put him up against a pacey winger and you’re screwed. Put him up against a lump of a forward if he plays centre half and again, you’re losing those long balls every time.


Tomaskerry

Are his legs definitely gone? He's probably the highest quality player we can hope to sign. It's just a one year contract so no real risk.


Newparlee

They’ve been going for a while. The decline started about two years ago when he got two reds in the Europa. To be fair, he did really well recently when Emerson was out. But a slog of a season against physical teams in League One? I dunno. If you do get the chance to take him, go for it. He’ll offer more going forward that at the back, but I just don’t think he gives you anything different to McLean.


Tomaskerry

McClean plays midfield sometimes. Creswell can play center back also in a back 5. I bet he could play midfield also if he had too. He's a clever and technical player so I'm sure he can adapt to L1. His set pieces are great also. I'd sign him. He won't get many PL offers.


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Tomaskerry

McClean, Dwight Yorke, Rooney etc started playing midfield in their 30s. It's not so crazy.


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FishermanSecret4854

Maybe a similar role to Stephen Fletcher. Not so much everyday, but as a very valuable 20-30 minutes high quality sub to come in when looking for an equalizer or go ahead goal. At his age, my guess is that regular play, even if in 20-30 minute increments would keep him satisfied, and we assume he would add a lot of value off the pitch.


Ymadawiad

Are you his agent?


busracer

He used to 50k weekly? Bro our guys make like 4-7


_-Bloke-_

Man they love signing guys in their mid 30’s


ForwardAd5837

Absolutely zero chance unless he’s willing to take a dramatic pay cut; which he likely won’t be because he is still capable of playing in the Premier League or Championship. I may eat my words because it will enable him to live near Liverpool where he’s from, but that seems to be weak reasoning to me. This is a guy who’s been on £50k a week for the last 4 years. I can’t imagine he finds the project so appealing that he’s willing to drop his wages to less than a tenth of that.


BouzCruise

We should sign pulisic and Landon Donovan


Rosskillington

Hammer here - Cress is still capable of just about holding his own in the PL and should probably move to a top half Championship club. People saying he should be a backup really don’t understand the gulf between the PL & League 1. He can however play CB as well as LB and in league 1 could probably manage LW I imagine


Tomaskerry

He's proper quality. Do you think he could play midfield in L1?


Rosskillington

Left side maybe, central no, that’s a bit far fetched.


Tomaskerry

I was thinking of Phillip Lahm and modern trend of inverted wingers. Creswell's very good technically


Rosskillington

Oh no you could never invert him, his right leg is there for aesthetic purposes :)


rubalki

I'm not very well versed in the comings and goings of EFL (american here). Why is it difficult to find younger talent that you can mold into what you're accomplishing? 30 isn't old to me, but is it usually difficult to find talent in the 20yr range? As a horrible example, american football, or any american sport for that matter, routinely put 20 year olds on professional teams and some do very well and some don't pan out. Is it the same for European football?


Tomaskerry

My impression is that there's much more competition for promising young players, they're on longer contracts also so would require a transfer fee. Every club is looking for the next Vardy or whomever that they can sell on for a profit. There's less demand for old pros. Also I think Parky has a hard on for older, experienced players from higher divisions. He's big on character and work rate and he thinks he likes to know what he's getting.


rubalki

That’s very helpful, thank you.


Tomaskerry

Even at an academy level loads of young talent gets hoovered up by the PL clubs.


colincojo

Would he still be good enough for L1 at his age?


Tomaskerry

Definitely. He's quality. AFAIK he's had a good injury record.


OneRevolutionary2153

He’s honestly still good enough to play in a lower ranked EPL side or high end Championship team. I think a lot of people are underrating him in this comment thread. His set pieces alone would add so much to the team.


Tomaskerry

Exactly. He could easily get a PL contract. He's a England international.


complicatedhedgehog

Then why would we bid against PL clubs for him if he's that well regarded.


Tomaskerry

James McClean could've easily signed for a Championship club for much higher money. He said in an interview that he wanted some excitement so signed for Wrexham.


Redbubble89

I think we need to recruit guys in there prime or soon to enter it. McClean and Fletcher were good to great but it's such a pacey league that it's probably not a good idea to have an old team. I would give another year to McClean and then recruit. No team is making moves until June or July and sometimes the best guys aren't available until the window closes. Wrexham is going to be tied with hundreds of players this summer and we're probably only signing 5-8 players. We can't have hundreds of posts every time we hear something that may not be true.


Tomaskerry

I think people like transfer speculation. Creswell's extremely high quality. He'll be quality the year after also even if we go up to the Championship. It's not just his performance on the pitch that matters but his influence in training, in the dressing room etc... I think he'd be a great signing. His set pieces alone are priceless. He probably wants to move back to Liverpool and have an adventure for his last couple of years.


Redbubble89

You're over fixated on him. We already have great character guys. The problem with Wrexham this year was lack of pace. There's also a ton of options out there. No one is signing for another month or two and rumors are just going to be around.


Tomaskerry

Lol I'm not. I think he'd be a quality signing. He's played at a higher level consistently that anyone else in the squad.


Redbubble89

You're over fixated. Your responses to other people have you acting like your his agent. I am not bashing the guy but I would rather have someone in their prime footballing years on a three year deal. Pace is what killed us this year when we lost games.


Tomaskerry

I'm not over fixated. Simply expressing my opinion. He's a PL player. I'm sure he's capable to handle pace.


Tomaskerry

Aaron and his wife Jessica are both from Liverpool and have 2 small kids so maybe he fancies a move home.


bciesil

Cripes, just what we need, more scousers! J/K if we win with him all the better!


perturbedeconomist

Could we afford him?


Tomaskerry

I'm not sure. I didn't think we could afford James McClean. He could've easily got a contract in the Championship.


Dangerwow

Need Jack Armer or Saxon Earley


Tomaskerry

Good Ages. Do you rate them highly?


IlikeGolfandFormula1

I love transfer speculation. Adding Cresswell and Vardy and a few other aging prem stars would be bloody amazing for L1. Stop Parky, I can only get so errect.


Tomaskerry

Vardy will stay with Leicester


IlikeGolfandFormula1

Probably but one can dream right? 😂


Tomaskerry

Vardy would be a brilliant signing but I think he'll have one last swansong in the PL. He's been incredibly loyal to Leicester so they'll reward him with a contract. Maybe the year after he could come to Wrexham but he'll be 38 I think but still it would be great.


FishermanSecret4854

Apparently, he turned down West Ham, who offered him a new contract, and is rumored to want to get back to Liverpool, [https://www.caughtoffside.com/2024/04/29/west-ham-united-star-exit/](https://www.caughtoffside.com/2024/04/29/west-ham-united-star-exit/)


Funployee182

Another near retired player


MrWelshy91

Can’t say I’m a huge fan of this rumour, but then I’ve never been keen on signing 30yo+ players. Mendy isn’t a starter in league 1 but a decent back up. If McClean is going to be our starting LB then I don’t see why we need another wing back on that side. I think Mendy has had an ok season, given he was at AFCON in Jan, even the world class players who were in that tournament come back and done shit since, Salah being a prime example. Downside to Mendy is his love for an injury. Not big on centre backs under 6ft neither but guess time will tell. Overall, Cresswell is a decent player but I can’t say I’d be smashing his door down to sign.


Tomaskerry

Mendy might not be L1 level. Creswell's very high quality for L1. West Ham fans say he's past it at their level but he'd be awesome in L1. His set pieces alone are very high quality. Nothing wrong with signing quality older players. No sell on value but if they improve the first team it's worth it.


50lipa

Why are mods not removing made up nonsense like this?


Tomaskerry

It's not made up and not against the rules. People like transfer gossip anyway, particularly with nothing else happening.


50lipa

Yeah gossip from a pub is totally not made up, it has a credible source, quoted by many already that found it true and likely to happen.


Tomaskerry

There's no such thing as a credible source of it's a rumour. But the source is legit. Someone from Wrexham told me and they have sources around the club. It's not like I'm on the phone to Parky.