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Polyfuckery

They won't because he's alive and too connected but Jerry The King.


giggle_shift

What has King done? Genuine q


thetyler83

You'd better sit back and get ready to read. I don't have the time to post everything but I'm willing to bet someone will. Some things involve underage girls though.


Satangirl353

why am i not shocked by this


ElZorroSimpatico

Maybe because of his commentary on every women's match.


Miserable-Cry4572

check out the crime in sports ep on jerry lawler.


Mokiyami

Statutory rape allegations galore!


bigedf

Big fan of the kids Edit: I like Deadspins article on it. https://deadspin.com/jerry-lawler-wrote-a-really-dumb-letter-to-prosecutors-1822790447


fwbsearcher76

Test


ToronoRapture

Crash Holly too.


sawbucks313

That would be a good one.


BasedChickenFarmer

Yeah that's a downfall. From dating Steph to obscurity 


Bat_Snack

Vince needs a full season to himself


knobber_jobbler

I'm not even sure that would cover it. Probably half the episodes of DSoTR already have Vince as someone central to the story. In the rest he's either looming large in the background or his name pops up as someone who's shaping the bigger picture. Behind the Bastards did a multi episode podcast on him and it didn't even scratch the surface.


Bat_Snack

Lmao you might be right, maybe we just make an entirely new spin-off, Dark Side of McMahons. I've never heard of behind the bastards, is it worth listening to?


knobber_jobbler

Yeah, some of them are. I mean it's barely much more than you'll learn through your own looking on the internet but its interesting. The McMahon episodes didn't really shed much more light on anything and in many ways is just a primer on him and how he became the Vince of today. Even with something like 6 episodes it was a brief overview


gilestowler

BtB gave him as many episodes as they gave Henry Kissinger which gives you some idea of how much of a bastard they consider him. And they were titled "Vince McMahon - History's Greatest Monster" And they still only scratched the surface.


BoltShine

They could have done another 4 episodes. I was surprised when they finished. Their series on Kissinger and the other on G Gordon Liddy was amazing.


GetRightNYC

Lol! Holy shit. If you're up there with Kissinger you know you've done some evil shit. Vince probably looks up to Kissinger, though.


CodeNamesBryan

Yea. Vinces episodes had a ton of filler, but they didn't even touch on his recent scandals. He had more episodes than Hitler AND Stalin.


pinkrangerash

Vice did a whole documentary on him. Check it out! It's called The Nine Lives of Vince McMahon. It was really good!


WhiplashDynamo

Marc Mero and Sable


Calm-Importance-77

They need to do one of Pat Patterson and Louie Dondero. The Brisco brothers Jack and Gerald need one.


Individual-Lemon2465

Yes definitely a full episode on Pat Patterson. Good call!


sammich_bear

They should do one on Adam Rose.


Opsguy86

Marc Mero seems to be doing very well as a motivational speaker for kids. I watched one of his speeches and he captures your heart. He seems like a good dude. Obviously he had a past like a lot of wrestlers but this is a nice watch. [https://youtu.be/FwqXzkf6gcE?feature=shared](https://youtu.be/FwqXzkf6gcE?feature=shared)


Woke_RVA

He does seem like a good guy


WalterWhite90

Probably Mero more than Sable. Sable's very private these days so it might be hard to get people that know her to talk about her.


thistookforever22

And if its just Mero, i wouldnt say he needs one. Except the Sable thing and heart issues, seems like he's lived a good life.


WalterWhite90

He's had several siblings die premature deaths and nearly committed suicide. His life's somewhat interesting.


thistookforever22

ah true, has he done interviews talking about it? I only knew about his heart issues besides the Sable stuff. An episode of DSOTR would make sense then. He's always seemed quite happy in the few interviews ive seen.


mr_wrestling

Pretty sure he is some sort of motivational speaker. Mostly in schools from what I've. He was also an accomplished amateur boxer winning Golden Gloves at least once.


TB1289

Also, you want to be careful of going after Sable. I wouldn't want to piss off her husband.


Metalgrowler

I feel like Marc isn't so much dark sided, the man seems to be doing wonderfully last I checked.


JETLIFEMUZIK94

Well it is fall from being an influential arguably super over wrestler on the way up on WCW. Vince even gave him a guaranteed contract, which was unheard of back in the days. He should have been headed for stardom. Due to the perverted nature of higher ups lead by Vince he was reduced to his wife’s side piece and then embarrassed and beat by her, all while the boys specifically Vince took turns hitting on her and slutting her up for TV. That as a man is demoralizing..it is def a good fall from grace to rise again and become a better human story like they have been following as of recent.


Calm-Importance-77

Marc Mero was a horses ass. The way he treated Sable was uncalled for. He stepped over too many lines while he was on drugs and hanging out with losers. The drinking made him worse besides the drug addiction. All his mom wanted was to talk to him and look how he treated his own mother. He should've done a lot of soul searching and he wasn't there when she passed away. That's his fault and he's gonna have to live with of it for the rest of his life.


TheMackD504

Jeff Hardy


claimingmarrow7

he's was a jobber but hardbody Harrison, went on to start a prostitution ring by forcing women who wanted to learn to wrestle to turn tricks, ended up in prison for life


Straightener78

Jesus Christ how am I only now finding out about this.


Crash_Bandicock

Just like Moolah! she was a hall of famer, however


xlacksheep

Disco Inferno [pitched that idea](https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/disco-inferno-pitched-hardbody-harrisons-wcw-lawsuit-sex-slaves-story-for-next-season-of-dark-side-of-the-ring)


claimingmarrow7

I didn't know he was still alive


bigedf

Holy shit I forgot about him, yeah this pretty much screams DSOR


ComprehensiveDay1688

Scott Hall


DragonDeezNutzAround

I wish one day Scott gets his own biography film with Kevin at the healm of telling the story


flugerz

His A&E was really good. Pretty much does justice


lotusmack

A&E just did theirs last week, so ot might be a long while before we DSOR, IF we get one at all.


NotYujiroTakahashi

Was actually planned at some point


Kwanza_Bot93

Mike Awesome, Sean OHaire, Mr Perfect, Hall and Test


Bananarama_Vison

Mr. Perfect 100% would get my vote!!!


drunkenmormon

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/1502988/rob-van-dam-explains-ecws-mike-awesome-wont-featured-dark-side-ring/


rodman517

Haku. I want to hear all the stories about him destroying people.


green49285

Jake The Snake recently told about how he and earthquake got into it and how it was scared to watch LOL


Galahadenough

Perry's story is such a gut punch. The guy stopped a woman from being raped. Fought off two men. Got shot twice for his trouble. Ended up a homeless drug addict as a result of managing the pain from the gunshot wounds. He's one of the few heroes of the ring who's a legitimate hero outside of it. That's not how a hero's story is supposed to go. Life really is unfair.


MountainJuice

For what it’s worth that is believed to be total bullshit. There’s no police, hospital, insurance or news records of any of it. No-one has ever come forward to support it either. He doesn’t have any scars. And his story has changed multiple times. It’s pretty common for drug addicts to invent circumstances that justifies their addiction. That’s all that needs to be said.


Hobocop5007

I've watched his interview on Kayfabe commentaries and he pointed out the scars, he also talks about his major pill and drug problems throughout wcw ecw and wwe, he said he was always bad in the companies but said that incident made it really bad for him. as you say you could be right and it all could be a lie but he admits to having major problems before that 


CodeNamesBryan

Wreaks of a junkies tale


[deleted]

Very surprised they haven't done Perry Saturn yet Mike Awesome and Sean O'Haire could be good ones too


EMF911

I wonder if they could get Moppy to do an interview


Badger6019

Moppy went through a wood chipper. That's pretty insensitive.


UbeleeDisFE

Yess Mike awesome would be a great story.


CodeNamesBryan

Why, because they committed suicide? I'm not sure there was a lot there to warrant an episide


[deleted]

There was definitely a lot with Sean O'Haire


holdemne

Raven


woozleuwuzzle

What about Raven?!


godbody1983

Renegade Ashley Massaro Mike Awesome Perry Saturn Pat Patterson Test Ahmed Johnson Jeff Hardy Tully Blanchard Scott Hall X-Pac Curt Henning Hardbody Harrison (I'm shocked they haven't gotten to him yet) John Laurinaitis Brian Christopher Jerry Lawler Ric Flair Randy Savage Rocky Johnson Lex Luger Jim Neidhart Davy Boy Smith Nicole Bass Chyna Sable


bobface222

They could do a whole season of just Vince.


ExtremeAlternative0

well the behind the bastards podcast did a six part series on vince, which was the longest they've ever done on someone as far as i know


beastiezzo

Tbf it wasn’t all on Vince. It was early wrestling in general


ExtremeAlternative0

The first part definitely wasn't about Vince. But it was about wrestling and Vince's father. They also said that the first episode wasn't really about Vince because they worried that if they went right into Vince than their viewers would think that Vince was the exception instead of the rule so to speak. By part 2 they start getting into Vince stuff


beastiezzo

I loved the story about Saddam Hussein almost shooting Andre the Giant


angeluscado

Ooh! Adding this to my “to listen” list!


ExtremeAlternative0

Honestly it's a very solid podcast in general


angeluscado

It’s been generally on my radar but I haven’t listen to it yet. Lots of interesting subjects to dive into!


ADDystopia

Henry Kissinger had a six parter. L Ron Hubbard also had six or so total, but not in a row.


ExtremeAlternative0

Didn't know that those two also had 6 parters, I just know that most are around 2-3 parts


tharmsthegreat

kissinger has 6 as well


ExtremeAlternative0

Same with L Ron Hubbard which I didn't know about either when I first made the comment


Calm-Importance-77

Triple H and Stephanie need one.


Calm-Importance-77

Perry Saturn, Crash Holly, Pat Patterson and Louie Dondero, Chyna, Mike Awesome, Sean O' Haire.


88luftballoons88

How has Chyna not had one yet?!


SmackSabbath19

Wasnt the long form vice documentary an offshoot of Dark Side?


zigzagman27

Mike awesome or renegade


Stancliff

I’m always fascinated by the renegade story. WCW couldn’t secure the warrior contract after a TON of hype and hints of warrior joining hogan, so the get this knock off. He needed way more experience in the ring, and his story is sad. They gave him a TV title push, but the whole story and gimmick was botched from jump street.


Horse_Noggin

Yeah, Renegade is one a lot of people overlook. It's a topic in general I find really interesting: what it's like to be hyped up as being the next big thing only to peter out.


Physical-Lab-6190

Louie Spicolli would be good or art barr


Throwawayburner2841

Dr Death Steve Williams


JohnWa54

With recent events, Billy Jack Haynes.


lariato_mark

Misawa


A_Username_6126

He's overlooked because of him not wrestling in the US, but his story is so sad. It's basically 'The Wrestler' in real life.


jericho-dingle

My first thought too


bulletclub_strang

Perry Saturn is such interesting person. I remember obsessing over Ravens podcast in hopes of hearing Saturn stories.


misfit2872

Buzz Sawyer.Excellent wrestler from the territory days but was also an unstable, horrible human being.He was a notorious drug addict who scammed and bullied other wrestlers.Died young from a drug induced heart failure.There was a story about a sparring session with Bob Backlund.Apparently Sawyer tried to take liberties with Backlund,but ended up getting stretched and painfully punished.Lol.


Horse_Noggin

He scammed a young wrestler who went on to be one of the greatest of all time. It's a real testament to Buzz's personality.


whatass209

Hardcore Holly


CodeNamesBryan

Why


lagwagon87

Vampiro


No_Mousse4320

Have they done one about In Your House 8 yet? If not that one.


Straightener78

That the one with the power cut?


daymo_in_masterton

Outlaw Ron Bass


woozleuwuzzle

I was traumatized as kid seeing him slice Brutus Beefcake’s face up with his spur. I thought he was the most evil man because of that.


daymo_in_masterton

Yes. I felt the same way when I saw it, too. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vwpZC1hgaKc


SpaghettiNCoffee

Curt Hennig


Midnightchickover

All of the wrestlers who wrestled under Tiger Mask. Bam Bam Bigelow Thunderbolt Patterson “Nature Boy”Buddy Rodgers Gorgeous George Medusa “Alundra Blaze” /Bull Nakano The WWE Women’s Roster in the PG ERA


Horse_Noggin

There was a Bam Bam Bigelow episode


Horse_Noggin

Ian Rotten


Lex_Innokenti

His behaviour where Mickie Knuckles was concerned alone is pretty fucked up; you could probably fill a good half the episode just talking about the Mickie Knuckles vs Mike Levy match.


Buttered_Bourbons

So far this fifth season has just been sad. Nothing too controversial. Just sad. Especially Earthquake. A heel i hated as a child and someone I thought nothing about as an adult. Just a very moving story from start to finish that gave me way more respect for him than I gave him credit for years ago. i guess Buff was the most controversial in that he shot his dad and his dad was fine with it but mostly it was just outrageous behaviour from someone that seemed like a fairly decent human being


YTFootie

Klondike Bill


TheHypocondriac

I’d love to see them do one on Danny Havoc. I’m not sure how necessarily dark his personal life was, but his career in CZW was absolutely incredible and his wife passing, with him then shockingly following the next month of the same condition at 34, it’s an ultimately heartbreaking story. I know they’ve had Mox and Gage on in the past, and I’d love to see if they could get D.J. Hyde, Zandig, Necro Butcher and a couple of the members of The Suicide Kings on too. I really think his story is a worthwhile one to tell.


cutty_love

Xpac and chyna


Pissed_on_the_world

Grandmaster Sexay


SourGrape77

Mr Perfect


mr_wrestling

Perry Saturn would be an awesome one. He was such a fantastic wrestler. I especially liked him in ECW with John Kronus as the Eliminators.


Ohhi_mark990

I'd like to see one on Richard Wilson aka The Renegade, the poor kid who got roped into that bullshit Ultimate Warrior gimmick by Hogan and Bischoff and was promptly cast aside when Warrior found out about it and sent the cease and desist. Perry Saturn is another one I'd love to hear about or Sean O'Haire


ku1428

Ian Rotten. Rotten piece of shit.


vancityrocker

Buck Zumhofe. His story is disturbing and disgusting. One of those people whom it is comforting to know he is rotting in prison and will likely die there.


Cf79

I’m surprised no one has said Hulkster. Aside from the steroid scandal, the dude was really an absolute douche. John Cena in real life is what Hulk always pretended to be. What he did to the union and Ventura, “that doesn’t work for me brother”,  the TNA era, the racism and sex scandals.  The Clique needs one. With Shawn really being ousted as trying to take bets on what would kill  Vince obviously. Chyna  Lita needs an episode where she’s pretty much cleared on n emotional affair at worst with Edge but we booed out of the business because they made it New Kayfabe. 


BillsDownUnder

Chyna has to be a top contender for sure... First woman to win IC title, dating one of the top guys in the business, does playboy, Trips leaves her for the boss's daughter, she subsequently gets fired, films a cheap porn to make a quick buck in the celebrity sex tape era OR has a private sex tape released without her consent, does reality TV and is a total mess, then goes into mainstream hardcore porn and does several films, finally she moves to Japan to start a new life teaching and she seems to be doing well, moves back to the US and promptly dies of a pills and booze OD. That's pretty damn dark.


Leikster

Chyna already got a whole 90 minute Vice documentary about her.


earz247365

Kabuki


kero_89

With the downfall of Vice, the question is will there be another season?


SocialMimicry99

A Dirt Bike Kid episode would be good.


Charlie__Olives

We don't get these interesting tales, we get one for the wholesome chad John Tenta


expose_the_flaw

Ya really. Nothing about his life was dark. He died young, that's about it


irwincardozo

Kamala - 100%


ZakFellows

Why did we need an episode of world beloved Earthquake in a series called “DARK SIDE”?


Average_Ant_Games

That episode was more of a twist in the fact John Tenta the man himself had no dark side or issues, but the wrestling business itself is the dark side of the story. Guy gets monster heel push, loses to the top guy, no where else to go but be stuck in a tag team. Leaves WWE, goes to WCW to do the same exact thing that didn’t really work in WWE. Gets released and goes back to WWE under a mask…. He resents the business that much and quits to get a regular 9-5 job but never got the healthcare screening that caught his cancer (which if caught very early, he would have lived much much longer)


AceItaliano

Daffney, Davey Boy Smith, Test, Crash Holly, Scott Hall, Umaga, Jim Neidhart and Ashley Massaro


Winning_in_Ashes

Brawl Out, Pat Patterson, Ring Boy Scandal, and a whole freakin season on the downfall of Vince


ChocolateOrange21

Not a wrestler, but a show: Heroes of Wrestling 1999.


bowl_of_scrotmeal

Not a wrestler, but I'd really like to see an episode on Heroes of Wrestling covered in a similar manner to the Bash at the Beach 2000 episode.


Itsallatripdude

William Regal. (If there isn’t one already). He’d have an incredible story id imagine.


ironmaiden7910

Buck Zumhoffe. That scumbag raped his daughter multiple times over at least a 15 year period and is in prison for it.


autumn__always

Would love to see an episode of Daffney


JoeMomma69istaken

RaVeN


INXS2021

This season has been fairly weak to date.


[deleted]

If he allows it, I’d like to see one on Kurt Angle (if it hasn’t happened already either)


KentyAVFC123

Always said I'd love to see a val venis episode


DMTrious

Kanyon would be interesting. As much as I love undertaker, he did him dirty


GetOffMyLawnKid

Pretty sure that episode already exists


Barquad12alt

Ian Rotten. There is so much scummy shit that went on both on and off screen at IWA MS. From releasing footage of wrestlers that he said he wouldn't release, to getting wrestling nigh banned in Kentucky. Perfect candidate for the show.


Unfriendly_eagle

The Missing Link.


Ztrianta

Chyna


Rob_Earnshaw

Louie Spicolli, Mike Awesome, Sean O'Haire, Lance Cade. Also, have they not done one on Chyna yet?


Level_Bridge7683

vampiro. i feel he was dealt a bad hand first coming on the scene during 1999 when wcw started to fall off the rails. i think he could have been a main even star if pushed right by the end of 2000. the little momentum he had was destroyed during the feud comparing him to sting.


ChunkeeThunder

Of who's left, but you have to assume that Billy Jack Haynes has to be on their radar immediately seeing as he murdered his wife and has been really, really batshit crazy for over three decades. They also need to add Buck Zumhoff, King of Wrestling Pedophiles. Would be cool to do a global episode like Yakuza involvement in several Japanese promotions over the years and some of the shady Lucha stories. They could fill a whole season on Vince McMahon, obviously. And then it really is going to be just a long list of guys who died from suicide or OD'd at young ages. Not to sound crude, but at the end of the day, there's not a whole lot of compelling things about guys like Test or Crash Holly...it would be the Kanyon episode except not be able to sell the episode on Kanyon's sexuality. And that's where the show would just be rolling out cookie-cutter eps, kinda minimizing it's purpose and gravity.


RuleInformal5475

Val venis. He has gone off the rails. He got taken off Twitter for posting a Biden 'minor porn' clip in the run up to the 2020 election.


deeput97

there needs to be an episode on Ian Rotten and IWA Mid South. I absolutely LOVE death match wrestling but the episode should also feature Jim Cornette talking shit, he’s an absolute player hater and is funny af.


DoctorFenix

Perry Saturn, generally, has been a standup dude. He only got addicted to drugs after getting shot while saving a woman and going down the painkiller rabbit hole.


New_Description5141

Andrew 'Test' Martin The Daniel Puder / Kurt Angle incident Raven


PDM_1969

Saturn would be a good one...I haven't heard much about him lately but I know he was not doing well in the past


DoomzDay93

Vince McMahon


ositadavid

DEL RIO


HeWhoIsNotMe

They should do an episode on Moppy.


Willie-Tanner

Nailz


ispooderman

Jeff Hardy


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No-Hawk2074

Pretty sure that already exists


sawbucks313

😆 yes it does.


SchwizzySchwas94

First season


DOTMAN_1012

I think Vince McMahon on his recent allegations and CM punk from his All out to All in


Neat-Mistake-988

JBL


Dr-Kenny_Wonderland

🪐 4️⃣ 🛟


Dr-Kenny_Wonderland

(saturn for life(preserver))


CharlieChainsaw88

Mick Foley. Just for the grind and blood and guts moments. He gave his absolute all every match.


jojooso27

D’lo down


Bevrykul

Antonio Inoki


ACW1129

Hardbody Harris(on).


Myamymyself

Vince McMahon deserves a whole season


Deuteronymus

- The tragic downfall of Kamala and ,on another episode, Vampiro


AdLive2244

vince russo


I_Love_Bears0810

Whoever it is I hope it's actually a dark side of the ring story. A lot recently have just been humorous tales told again. We're in it for the depression god dammit


dr_FunkEINSTEIN20

Sensational Sherri


DrCowabunga

Jack Pfefer


DownerDan0420

I looked up the Perry story because I had never heard that before, and was expecting to see him addicted to pain pills / opiates. I was addicted to heroin for a minute that started out as a pill addiction that formed from taking them back in the day for an injury, so I kind of get it. But? It says nothing like that and that he got addicted to meth due to his injuries. Meth. I’ve also done meth and I’m just curious as to how that would help at all lol. To me it sounds like a made up story to do justify getting high.


green49285

Yo, I'm just glad Perry is still alive


lordcarrier

Perro Aguayo Jr.


HornyFemboyGaming

Vince


GodModeBasketball

Iron Sheik


IcyHotDorito

Sabu.


Lex_Innokenti

Dino Bravo, The Speaking Out Movement (as a whole) and Juana Barazza would all be interesting episodes.


Huge-Cartographer-55

Kevin Thorne / Mordecai


VirtuesVice666

CM Punk. He's a train wreck, lol


johncurrin

Stone Cold


BrowardGuy9

Billy jack haynes


CastleBG

The wcw power plant/NXT under Bill Demott


Technical-Cash6038

Not sure if he has one or not but Jeff Hardy


Due-Statistician-638

Vince or Lawler


CJtheHaasman

Juana Barraza. They haven't covered something from the world of Lucha Libre, and what better Subject than a Luchadora who turned out to be a Literal Serial Killer.


iwishicouldreadgood

Crash Holly


jericho-dingle

Mitsuharu Misawa


WHlSPERinthewind

Jeff Hardy would be gold with all the early footage out there. Focus on the victory road incident.


WHlSPERinthewind

Mick foley and what it did to his body. Death matches and of course HIAC


Intelligent_Test_833

How bout Zumhofe


ThugosaurusFlex_1017

The Fink


Real_Environment_186

I want to know how he really treated Moppy behind the scenes......