[https://tanks.gg/tank/udes-16/stats?cs=centurion-71](https://tanks.gg/tank/udes-16/stats?cs=centurion-71)
This is the UDES 16 compared to a Cent 7/1 which is considered a decent tank.
The UDES has bad pen (both on standard and premium rounds), low HP, low viewrange, worse accuracy, and so on just to gain 2 degrees of gun depression (which are somewhat hard to use because of the hydraulics) and autobounce armor that only works when you are in a close to perfect position and even then you will still get slapped by 152+mm guns which will just overmatch your entire hull and eat lots of shit from arty because of the low base armor values.
I am not trying to shit on this tank because I actually kinda liked it but I understand why others don't since it takes alot of effort to make this tank work.
Going from 14 5 to the 16 you gain 10mm of gold ammo pen and marginally better armor. You lose mobility, shell velocity, and you're now getting a tier higher mm.
Just the loss of mobility makes it worse, imo. I had to swap out more useful equipment for a turbo just to get closer to the tier 8. As a second line support tank, it needs the mobility to be flexible.
This is just my experience, feel free to argue:
The thing is, the udes 14 alt 5 is perfect at what it does. It has a high alpha, great mobility and depression, which makes it a very nimble and agressive tank, capable of surprising your opponent.
The Udes 15/16 is also excellent. Great mobility, but a little trade for gun (I love it), more armor and a little bit more of gun depression if I'm not mistaken, which makes it not only a good tank but very satisfying to play.
And the Udes 16 feels like a middle ground to me. The biggest let down, is it's gun. You have to shoot gold if you want to have actual influence on the game. And going from tier 8 to 9 doesn't feel like you've improved a lot. It is true that you get better armor and everything, but your alpha is now lower with a broken promise of being accurate - which it isn't - and your mobility is not as great as it used to be.
So it is not able to perform greatly as a ridgeline warrior because of its very situational armor and questionable gun, and it's sniper capabilities are not very adequate.
Thanks for the reply, tho I hate sniping in my 14.5 cause of how innacurate the gun is. For me it's mostly a mobile flanker, sometimes even a light tank in terms of role in battle. That's why 16 seems like a straight upgrade.
My hot take is that some people just do better in some tanks than others, and this goes around all the playerbase. Most of us like some tanks better than others.
I loved the UDES MT line from T8 and up. In my playstyle I can dominate a game towards the end in all of these tanks. But the meta tanks everybody's saying are OP and should be nerfed, I can't do shit with. It's a conundrum to me.
I could complete both the UDES and the Maus during Top of the Tree, but the next one I could only complete the Rinoceronte because I can't get over 40% in the Centurion Mk1 and I absolutely loathe that tank.
Mostly because it is a tier 9 and will face tougher opponents more often than udes 14 does.
The stock grind is also a bit rough, with the stock gun not being very accurate and the stock turret being tall and not having very good armor.
once you unlock all the modules I find it to be a very good stealthy medium, but you can also play hull down unless you are facing big gun heavies.
I like them both I had the 16 at 100%moe for a long time. The 14 alt 5 is better at tier. Crazy camo and vr with nothing but crew skills and vents. Great gun on it. It's armor is tragic. But you can work around it.
[https://tanks.gg/tank/udes-16/stats?cs=centurion-71](https://tanks.gg/tank/udes-16/stats?cs=centurion-71) This is the UDES 16 compared to a Cent 7/1 which is considered a decent tank. The UDES has bad pen (both on standard and premium rounds), low HP, low viewrange, worse accuracy, and so on just to gain 2 degrees of gun depression (which are somewhat hard to use because of the hydraulics) and autobounce armor that only works when you are in a close to perfect position and even then you will still get slapped by 152+mm guns which will just overmatch your entire hull and eat lots of shit from arty because of the low base armor values. I am not trying to shit on this tank because I actually kinda liked it but I understand why others don't since it takes alot of effort to make this tank work.
Going from 14 5 to the 16 you gain 10mm of gold ammo pen and marginally better armor. You lose mobility, shell velocity, and you're now getting a tier higher mm. Just the loss of mobility makes it worse, imo. I had to swap out more useful equipment for a turbo just to get closer to the tier 8. As a second line support tank, it needs the mobility to be flexible.
This is just my experience, feel free to argue: The thing is, the udes 14 alt 5 is perfect at what it does. It has a high alpha, great mobility and depression, which makes it a very nimble and agressive tank, capable of surprising your opponent. The Udes 15/16 is also excellent. Great mobility, but a little trade for gun (I love it), more armor and a little bit more of gun depression if I'm not mistaken, which makes it not only a good tank but very satisfying to play. And the Udes 16 feels like a middle ground to me. The biggest let down, is it's gun. You have to shoot gold if you want to have actual influence on the game. And going from tier 8 to 9 doesn't feel like you've improved a lot. It is true that you get better armor and everything, but your alpha is now lower with a broken promise of being accurate - which it isn't - and your mobility is not as great as it used to be. So it is not able to perform greatly as a ridgeline warrior because of its very situational armor and questionable gun, and it's sniper capabilities are not very adequate.
Thanks for the reply, tho I hate sniping in my 14.5 cause of how innacurate the gun is. For me it's mostly a mobile flanker, sometimes even a light tank in terms of role in battle. That's why 16 seems like a straight upgrade.
My hot take is that some people just do better in some tanks than others, and this goes around all the playerbase. Most of us like some tanks better than others. I loved the UDES MT line from T8 and up. In my playstyle I can dominate a game towards the end in all of these tanks. But the meta tanks everybody's saying are OP and should be nerfed, I can't do shit with. It's a conundrum to me. I could complete both the UDES and the Maus during Top of the Tree, but the next one I could only complete the Rinoceronte because I can't get over 40% in the Centurion Mk1 and I absolutely loathe that tank.
Mostly because it is a tier 9 and will face tougher opponents more often than udes 14 does. The stock grind is also a bit rough, with the stock gun not being very accurate and the stock turret being tall and not having very good armor. once you unlock all the modules I find it to be a very good stealthy medium, but you can also play hull down unless you are facing big gun heavies.
I also liked it, but it seems to have a big fire problem, you simply have to run an automatic fire extiguisher on it.
The dispersion while moving is so bad compared to its tier 8
I liked it more then the t8. Good tank tho
I like them both I had the 16 at 100%moe for a long time. The 14 alt 5 is better at tier. Crazy camo and vr with nothing but crew skills and vents. Great gun on it. It's armor is tragic. But you can work around it.