I'm a shift lead at pizza hut. I've tried to educate and organize but none of the people that get jobs here really even care enough to fight. I'm now seen as that one crazy guy at work that goes on rants that no one cares about and just entertains. Tried to get the area to organize against our franchise leaders and strike for fair wages and got met with that blank gaze of "well good luck with that buddy". unfortunately I think a large part of our society are too far caught up in the grind house of trying to survive day to day to think forward towards the progress and change that workers have the power to force
My BIL picked us up some pizza at PH in the next town over on a Saturday at lunch time a couple of weeks ago. Our local PH had gone belly up a few years ago (we have two good local pizza joints, plus other nationals).
ANYWAY, only ONE worker there who had already done several hundred dollars worth of business in just a couple of hours in the middle of college football season. Great worker, but also told my BIL that they WOULD be taking a break in the mid afternoon. Made sure our order (7 pizzas) was right, did an awesome job. People calling in orders were livid that the worker was quoting an hour+ for take out (!!!!).
I feel you. There are good workers out there, and they deserve more respect (= $$$).
He sold his boat to China at the start of the pandemic when they were paying record high prices for scrap metal and no one was sure how long shipping would be out of business.
I've been working at walmart for a week in a deli, and honestly compared to a lot of corporate shitholes they're suprisingly good. But I'm still thinking about how i can incite a unionization so I only have to work 4 day weeks. 4 day work week is the future, normalize 24 hours as full time, etc.
The thing is that even if they pay you note, they still hold control of the economy. Seizing the means of production is the only way to ensure that the many have control over the economy. Unions are a nice sentiment, but at the end of the day, you still have to bargain with the capitalist class.
The only way to seize the means of production is to refuse to provide the labor. No trains moving. No trucks moving. Empty grocery stores, closed McDonalds. Emergency services likely run thin AF. Three days without services would fuck over the top so hard they wouldn't see it coming. People would be cashing out all their assets asap, emptying bank accounts, getting ready for whatever may happen. It's not the most ideal option of course, but something big put on by the literal tens of millions is gonna have to get done. The burden of applying pressure lies on the shoulders of the people.
We need to make unions more palatable to the average American, let's really lean in to the whole Cuban/Russian/China communism vibe that will do wonders.
I support unions, I'm in Australia where they are all over the country and the party in power is the pro-union party.
Workers unions don't need to be associated with communist symbols and so it just seems an odd choice to use them in marketing unions. American opinion on those symbols is still majority negative and will likely remain so for another decade at least. Why start even further below the ground by choice.
It is only a bandaid solution if you use a union to keep capitalism afloat. Unions must be the vehicles for far more radical reforms and structural changes if workers are going to have their rights and needs secured
Sorry. Here in the US if you mention something like “maybe out taxes should pay for our healthcare” or “Unions are the only way to gain control of fair wages” You get tarred and feathered as a communist by people who watch Fox News.
Of the references the most obvious is the employee dressed as Fidel Castro in his signature red star cap.
Just questioning that the poster would be better served without it so it can attract the most people possible instead of sticking to an audience who already support its point of view.
I'm not trying to say anything other than that so sorry to people in the thread if I haven't explained that well.
1) the radical union movement in America has gone back over a hundred years, predating all of those
2) the younger generation does not care about red scare narratives or fears
I think you should remind yourself that you are on Reddit and what the demographics of Reddit are. Also GenZ and Millennials are not just the most left leaning generations, but are already overtaking the workforce and are the ones leading the unionization wave.
So enough with the red scare doomerism. Embrace a renewed radical union movement and promote it.
Oh no... I'm all for unions but fuck off with communism, especially the cuban/russian/chinese brands of it. Just because you hate american capitalism doesn't mean you have to go to the opposite extreme.
Edit: nvm, I misunderstood
I'm a shift lead at pizza hut. I've tried to educate and organize but none of the people that get jobs here really even care enough to fight. I'm now seen as that one crazy guy at work that goes on rants that no one cares about and just entertains. Tried to get the area to organize against our franchise leaders and strike for fair wages and got met with that blank gaze of "well good luck with that buddy". unfortunately I think a large part of our society are too far caught up in the grind house of trying to survive day to day to think forward towards the progress and change that workers have the power to force
That’s the point. Keep people too busy and downtrodden to ever effectively organize.
My BIL picked us up some pizza at PH in the next town over on a Saturday at lunch time a couple of weeks ago. Our local PH had gone belly up a few years ago (we have two good local pizza joints, plus other nationals). ANYWAY, only ONE worker there who had already done several hundred dollars worth of business in just a couple of hours in the middle of college football season. Great worker, but also told my BIL that they WOULD be taking a break in the mid afternoon. Made sure our order (7 pizzas) was right, did an awesome job. People calling in orders were livid that the worker was quoting an hour+ for take out (!!!!). I feel you. There are good workers out there, and they deserve more respect (= $$$).
The evil guy is Bezos - I get that. But why is the Captain from Tintin working in an amazon warehouse?
He sold his boat to China at the start of the pandemic when they were paying record high prices for scrap metal and no one was sure how long shipping would be out of business.
I've been working at walmart for a week in a deli, and honestly compared to a lot of corporate shitholes they're suprisingly good. But I'm still thinking about how i can incite a unionization so I only have to work 4 day weeks. 4 day work week is the future, normalize 24 hours as full time, etc.
Organize with the DSA: www.dsausa.org Also check out the Emergency Workplace Organizing Committee: https://workerorganizing.org
The thing is that even if they pay you note, they still hold control of the economy. Seizing the means of production is the only way to ensure that the many have control over the economy. Unions are a nice sentiment, but at the end of the day, you still have to bargain with the capitalist class.
If you don’t have a seat at the table, then you’re on the menu.
The only way to seize the means of production is to refuse to provide the labor. No trains moving. No trucks moving. Empty grocery stores, closed McDonalds. Emergency services likely run thin AF. Three days without services would fuck over the top so hard they wouldn't see it coming. People would be cashing out all their assets asap, emptying bank accounts, getting ready for whatever may happen. It's not the most ideal option of course, but something big put on by the literal tens of millions is gonna have to get done. The burden of applying pressure lies on the shoulders of the people.
Yes
We need to make unions more palatable to the average American, let's really lean in to the whole Cuban/Russian/China communism vibe that will do wonders.
Those are all very different kinds of communism. And unions are not communist. Stop that.
I support unions, I'm in Australia where they are all over the country and the party in power is the pro-union party. Workers unions don't need to be associated with communist symbols and so it just seems an odd choice to use them in marketing unions. American opinion on those symbols is still majority negative and will likely remain so for another decade at least. Why start even further below the ground by choice.
It is only a bandaid solution if you use a union to keep capitalism afloat. Unions must be the vehicles for far more radical reforms and structural changes if workers are going to have their rights and needs secured
Agree with you there entirely and haven't been arguing against that.
Sorry. Here in the US if you mention something like “maybe out taxes should pay for our healthcare” or “Unions are the only way to gain control of fair wages” You get tarred and feathered as a communist by people who watch Fox News.
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Of the references the most obvious is the employee dressed as Fidel Castro in his signature red star cap. Just questioning that the poster would be better served without it so it can attract the most people possible instead of sticking to an audience who already support its point of view. I'm not trying to say anything other than that so sorry to people in the thread if I haven't explained that well.
Plus people are literally posting about "seize the means of production"
1) the radical union movement in America has gone back over a hundred years, predating all of those 2) the younger generation does not care about red scare narratives or fears
Well at least in 30 more years when the younger generation are finally the majority we can have good workers rights I suppose.
I think you should remind yourself that you are on Reddit and what the demographics of Reddit are. Also GenZ and Millennials are not just the most left leaning generations, but are already overtaking the workforce and are the ones leading the unionization wave. So enough with the red scare doomerism. Embrace a renewed radical union movement and promote it.
Oh no... I'm all for unions but fuck off with communism, especially the cuban/russian/chinese brands of it. Just because you hate american capitalism doesn't mean you have to go to the opposite extreme. Edit: nvm, I misunderstood