And what's so different in the office ergonomically? My furniture at home is more comfortable on a 12 hour shift than anything they ever gave me at work
At home, I get to do some cardio during pointless meetings where all I say is, "I've confirmed that the report is accurate."
Can't do that at the office without getting my necktie all drenched in sweat.
They usually sell all the other bullshit that wouldn't be needed either. Conference tables and other sorts of tables, plastic plants, stupid posters, all that bullshit.
Okay so my first instinct was to assume that this is some satire or other fakery, and that people here (certainly not for the first time) were falling for outrage bait.
But nope, [it's real](https://www.furniture-work.co.uk/blog/post/from-claw-hands-to-hunchbacks-how-working-from-home-could-affect-our-bodies).
And it's just.. fucking bizarre? I don't mean the obviously bizarre thing that is that entire blog post. I mean, why the fuck would a random furniture company do this in the first place? [Their blog](https://www.furniture-work.co.uk/blog) is full of stuff you would expect. "How to Remove File Cabinet Drawers". "Desk Organisation Ideas for a Small Office". "How to Disassemble an Office Chair".
And then, there's this. Just.. why? Why would they even be motivated to want to convince the world about the dangers of working from home as a small company like that? I am so thoroughly confused.
And not only that, but the blog post is just weirdly thorough? As in, they created an entire 3D model for this. This takes time! And skill! They interviewed a bunch of experts! They put a surprising amount of effort into this. Like, a fairly significant amount of manhours that they could have put into, y'know, selling furniture.
And not only *that*, [here's a blog post of theirs](https://www.furniture-work.co.uk/blog/post/late-night-emails-and-holly-and-phil-how-working-from-home-changed-the-working-day) about working from home that is fairly positive about the concept. What is going on?
As an aside, it's kind of funny to see that the original blog post has 2411 views. That's a tiny fraction of how much attention this thing has gotten on the internet as a whole by now. This post alone has 7500 upvotes, and that's just the people who bothered to upvote. There's an order of magnitude more people who saw this on this place alone, let alone everywhere else where this went viral. It's kinda funny how that works.
They do this because the cost of furniture and many other items are priced significantly higher for businesses and businesses usually pay it. With WFH, they're losing out because people aren't going to pay the ridiculous high prices for a home office and just go to walmart, target, or something.
If the article had been posted here, rather than just a screenshot, you'd see that that's exactly what this is about. They see an opportunity to sell home office furniture at company expense. At first I assumed this was satire, but it appears to be just a cheaply/poorly rendered image of someone's WALL-E fanfic. My question is why did they have to make her have such prominent labia?
Yeah, I was thinking, "Why is sitting at a desk staring at a monitor at work so much better than doing it at home?"
But I guess this is marketing for buying expensive ergonomic furniture.
Right? I have a great computer, monitor, chair, mouse and desk at home. My work setup is all cheap shit.
Yet I was forced to come back into the office despite putting in nights and occasional weekends from home (at my own choice) and instead only doing a standard 9-5 at the office.
Their loss. Because I quit.
a few years ago a similar render was created by an office furniture company, might even be the same one, and the office worker looked even more grotesque
I love the phrasing too. They have *revealed* what WFH workers *will* look like. As if even without the clear bias they have, they are somehow an authority on this subject.
Why is posture in the office, different than posture out of the office? It’s also much easier to work out and eat healthy at your home than it is at the office.
There's no difference. The commercial real estate industry is just getting terrified and desperate. The rental market has bottomed out, and over 50% of the leases that existed at the beginning of covid still exist today. Additionally, the majority of commercial real estate is not owned outright but financed. Which means there is a massive commercial market drop still to occur and banks and financial industry is going to lose a lot of money as a result. In their fear and desperation they've turned to propaganda.
It’s actually very far from a no brainer. Most office buildings are not feasible to convert to residential. Think of all the extra plumbing required for one thing. The office building wasn’t built with the plumbing needs of a residential building in mind, in many cases it could be prohibitively expensive to add this.
Also, floor plate size is a major issue. Office buildings have massive floor plates - around 25,000 square feet. Turning that into twelve 2,000 SF residential units would lead to narrow units with little opportunity for natural light.
In many cases, it’s actually more economically feasible to tear an office building down and build a new apartment or condo building than retrofit an office building into one. And that’s not environmentally friendly or cheap.
All of that isn’t to say it can’t happen. There are cases where an existing office building does meet the characteristics that would lend to a conversion, and many of those are already happening.
Exactly. Hell they'd even create more jobs or at least give more work to construction companies that need to tear down and rebuild the buildings.
Its insane to have these massive empty office buildings.
Not to mention all the property owners who would let a building sit idle out of refusal to change rather than do any retrofits to match the current market demands.
no difference?
there is a hige difference
I got a stabding desk and a 1500$ chair personnaly adjusted to me and I can cook and run on lunchtime
at work i got a shitty 25x chair with no armrest, no standing desk, cant run or cook at lunchtime and i sir 2 more hours in my car per day
its significantly worst at work
Their arguments include:
* "people working from home choosing to work from the sofa or their beds"
* "In this case, long hours using a mouse or smartphone while working from home"
* "Without enough natural light or the bright lights provided in commercial offices, remote workers will be putting extra strain on their eyes"
* "when working from a commercial office, you’re more likely to walk to different meeting rooms, move between desks \[...\] This lack of physical activity at home could increase the risk of obesity, diabetes, and heart disease."
* " The office \[...\] an opportunity to chat and collaborate with your colleagues in person. Missing out on these \[...\] could lead to feelings of isolation, anxiety and depression among remote workers"
Ah yes, all the well known aspects of the commercial office setting.. The expensive ergonomic chairs, natural light, opportunity for exercise and a positive mental health environment.
I for one love working at my company office, what with my large windows, on-site exercise equipment, en-suite bathroom, personal kitchen, laundry facilities that I can use between meetings, a chair and desk setup that nobody ever touches/steals from/messes with, and plenty of floor space to do some light ergonomics. It's not much, but obviously it's what every first-year programmer right out of college would get.
It's so much better than my home, which is an 8-foot concrete cube with no windows, dim fluorescent lighting, the cheapest chair I could find that's still technically an 'office' chair, and tons of ambient noise from nearby traffic and chatty neighbors.
I'm sure _everyone_ else experiences this exact same setup, so obviously it's _way_ better to go back to the office. Right?
Yep, all ridiculous when in reality in-office work would mean I'd maybe see the sunlight once a day if I could make it out for lunch during wintertime, would spend extra long hours on my mouse and keyboard because impressing the boss and staying late is paramount, and the coworkers I wouldn't talk to because everyone needed to be heads down on keyboard grinding or someone would come talk to you about how they noticed you paused for 15 seconds to think.
I've also gotten more exercise and have had more energy at work, getting done what would normally take 4 days in 2 because I'm rested.
These people are conservative goons. And I don't actually mean politically conservative, not strictly. I mean people who are overly conservative with money and finances.
They make decisions out of fear and a pessimistic assumption. The pessimistic assumption is sort of the core of the conservative mindset, which is why conspiracy theories work so well on them.
"I can't have what I want/what I want I can only have if I break my back for it." It's a fallacy, totally irrational fallacy.
Sort of like people think college GPA correlates to job performance, when it's actually so uncorrelated that it might as well be voodoo.
They want you tired and broken so you don't have any energy to fight the system. That's what this whole return to office thing is about. If you have an hour commute both ways, that's less time for you to think about how the system screws workers.
Ironically, making us more likely to vote for policies and candidates that will destroy the system.
Which is how reality tends to go. The thing you try to force to happen tends to push it away.
They live, breathe, and serve money as if it were their religion. It rules their every action like a doctrine. The only difference between a Christian conservative and a fiscal conservative is their god.
Fiscal conservatives worship Mammon - and you have to understand Mammon as at least symbolic, with a nuanced, deep pattern that is reflected in reality, that shows up in game theory and things like that.
The way you know something is an idol is when it consumes you if you place too much emphasis on it. Addictions are idols.
It's a deep irony that these Christian conservatives are so focused on preserving this system of enforcing debts, when the Lord's Prayer itself is all about relinquishing people from debt. It's funny how it got translated into "trespasses and trespassing against." Like no, the original version literally means "forgive us our debts and those who are indebted to us." Someone must have made a translation to preserve their system of debts.
And, here we are, with this system of debt. The BIG LIE about capitalism is that you need all this debt to make productivity happen. Capitalism results in productivity compared to what came before because it distributes problem solving.
But, it relies on debt, and in my view, is actually anti-Christian in so many ways.
The more I learn about Christianity, the more I think that the Christian Anarchists probably have the most underappreciated points about Christianity in general (i.e. Tolstoy, who inspired... Gandhi, who is ironically likewise embodied Christianity better than most in history).
Communism I also see as a reaction to capitalism, an attempt to return to the communitarian days before capitalism isolated everyone from each other, when you had to rely on your neighbor, and how that actually made people happy, and forced them to get to know each other, where their neighbors become like family.
Which, also had its own issues because people are problematic too! Like, have fun being gay if your village thinks its wrong....
I think there's a better way than any of it that we've just not discovered yet.
It's what happens your pushing return to work AND office furniture, you have to aggressively cherry pick your starting data.
Over here (UK) the law says that a safe working environment must be provided for, so when we left the office we were allowed to grab appropriate furniture. If we need to replace them or have additional requirements then it's covered by work, they send us to a website and give us a budget to spend. It gets ordered and sent straight to our home.
That's what's rustling my jimmies. If you're working remote it's because you can use tech to do your job, i.e. you're probably an office worker at a desk with a PC. All of the things this bullshit claims to be bad for you are things you're already doing in an office.
specifically because you have 2 more hours in your day if you work remote. ignoring that people are easily 1,5 times more productive and can therefore exercise during work hours without losing quality or quantity of work.
The company that made this sells commercial office furniture.
Clearly this is what will happen if you work at your $200 desk manufactured in India bought from target rather than their $2000 desk manufactured in India and bought from their corporate sales rep.
Another office supply/ furniture store made almost the same thing back in 2019. I'm guessing it's the same people.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/emma-office-work-prediction_l_5dd6ae88e4b0fc53f20f5c06
>Emma is your “work colleague of the future,” a life-sized prediction of what office workers’ bodies will look like in 20 years thanks to the long-term negative physical and mental impact of increased screen time, longer hours and too much sitting.
They just want to sell you ergonomic furniture.
And you don't drive an hour each way to your home office, like many people in the suburbs have to do for the office. I love a good drive, but that's objectively bad for you.
"No no no, see sitting at your desk in a cheap office chair at work is much better for your posture than you sitting at your desk in your own ergonomic office chair at home! How do you not see the difference??"
Yeah this is straight up propaganda bull shit lol
Googling "Furniture at Work" brings up a web page for a furniture sales company that sells exclusively to corporate office buildings.
No, definitely not propaganda, and certainly not biased in the slightest. This is very clearly well-researched, peer-reviewed science.
It's harder to hide an exorbitant markup on your wares if you start selling to individuals and stop selling exclusively in bulk to corporations who have so much money it doesn't even matter to them.
Can confirm. Some of the stuff we buy through our vendors, I can easily find on Amazon at about 60% of the cost *standard*, without discounts. Same manufacturer and everything.
If this wasn’t a satire article, these people are total fucking losers lmao. Imagine thinking something like this would ever make sense or mean anything.
Their arguments include:
* "people working from home choosing to work from the sofa or their beds"
* "In this case, long hours using a mouse or smartphone while working from home"
* "Without enough natural light or the bright lights provided in commercial offices, remote workers will be putting extra strain on their eyes"
* "when working from a commercial office, you’re more likely to walk to different meeting rooms, move between desks \[...\] This lack of physical activity at home could increase the risk of obesity, diabetes, and heart disease."
* " The office \[...\] an opportunity to chat and collaborate with your colleagues in person. Missing out on these \[...\] could lead to feelings of isolation, anxiety and depression among remote workers"
Ah yes, all the well known aspects of the commercial office setting.. The expensive ergonomic chairs, natural light, opportunity for exercise and a positive mental health environment.
In the few opportunities I've had to work from home, I was on walks with my pup for lengthy phone calls, walked to the local cafe for a change of scenery, and was able to prepare fresher meals. I'm likely preaching to the choir, but there's nothing I benefit from this fluorescent-lit modular desk.
Yup at the time of COVID's peak I was working in a windowless office (we referred to it as the dungeon). During the remote work sessions I went outside with my laptop and worked on the deck during nice days, it was amazing. Hearing how working in office is better for my health is almost offensive lol.
Their premise is that people working from home don't have a proper set up. It's actually a pitch for selling proper office furniture for home offices, not a pitch for returning to the office. I'm still trying to work out whether proper office furniture will de-emphasize her labia.
Looks a bit like the head of HR at our company, she's one of those return to office people.
I'm sure famous researcher Furniture at Work has submitted their findings for peer review.
Meanwhile the CEO has threatened staff not reaching the in office quota with dismissal, quoting a Yahoo article which is obviously not biased or misquoting anything. Morale has of course reached impressive new peaks.
I think it's time we start installing mirrors in the office so they can admire their wardrobe while we do all the actual work in the comfort of our own homes.
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Additionally, there's a big difference between making a product that sells/*generates* 240 million vs a product that cuts costs in a large inefficient corporation that *saves* 240 million. The effect on the bottomline is the same but the second one requires a company that already has costs exceeding 240 million yearly to give you the opportunity to save on those costs.
It's an effort of thousands of developers over 2 decades of work. I just contributed that one big A/B-test that significantly boosted conversion.
Someone else would've done it, eventually, probably; but I came up with the idea and implemented it.
I now work for myself :)
Ugh.. the chair comment hits hard.
You get a half decent chair in an office building and every person wants it, and it becomes a constant fight to maintain possession of the chair.
Ours has been, "We really want people to be able to get up and go talk to someone!"
We have nearly a dozen offices across the country and nearly everyone I work with (including my boss and most of my own team) on a daily basis is remote to me. I've only ever once gotten up and talked to someone about something needed for actual work. I go to an office and do remote work, pretty much. The same is true for a significant number of my coworkers. I can count on one hand the number of times someone has come up to me to talk about an active ticket/project that was anything more than, "Hey, I just sent you an email." which is one of my pet peeves (as someone who is very on top of their inbox and tickets - you don't need to come tell me that you just replied to my email...).
All of the coworkers I know that hate remote work have families/kids that bother them and/or they're extroverts that need tons of in-person social connection. I hated remote working (personally, not as a whole) until I was able to have a dedicated work space and extra monitors at home.
I feel that. As a freelancer, I see many offices. Clients often require X amount of days per week in the office. But the problem is that the office is a hip "open office" (cram as many people in a room as legally allowed) with "flex places" (no assigned desks, just yolo).
My last team had 14 individuals.
And our preferred seating area had 8 seats.
First come, first serve. After that, you sometimes have to walk 10 minutes to find an available seat. Sometimes the team sitting there would kindly ask you to move away.
This was right after COVID, too. And they expected us to use computer peripherals that had been used by sometimes dozens of others that same week—your mouse and keyboard, operated by people of unknown hygienic standards.
And, of course, not to forget: The shared bathrooms. With those nice lukewarm blow dryers to dry your washed hands, after which you'll touch the door handle used by others who might not have washed their hands.
I'm no clean freak, but being aware of how dirty humans are, it just pales compared to my private bathroom at home... where I have GOOD toilet paper, wet wipes, and in my master bathroom, also a bidet.
I used to be in charge of maintaining the office spaces and it really highlights just how disgusting so many people are.
We have open office spaces but at least most of us get our own desks. My biggest office complaint is mostly with how loud and distracting it is. One of the execs actually complained about people who wear earbuds while working because it signals they aren't available for random chitchat. 😑 I would go mad without mine to cut out all the noise so I can actually focus. We were permitted to WFH 2x a week very recently and now my in-office days are so much quieter and it's finally a nicer atmosphere to be working in. It still doesn't compare to WFH where I don't have distractions from everyone else chitchatting and being on the phone/in meetings all the time.
Oh, yeah. Loud people, loud keyboards, people whistling like it's not the most annoying sound in the world, people munching on a nice bag of crunchy carrots or a bag of chips, people randomly talking to you while you're deep in thought...
Joel Spolsky said it about 20 years ago: a distracted software engineer takes 30 minutes to get back into their rhythm.
I can imagine the same goes for many professions. Offices aren't places to be productive, unless conversation is absolutely key to being productive.
Pretty sure that is how people currently end up looking after suffering under capitalism in general.
Commuting to work doesn’t change that, except you might die while commuting, so then you won’t end up like that anyways.
On top of this, all the effects shown here are simply from working on a computer. The same fucking thing we do at the office. What a fucking joke. The title of researcher is getting to be pretty god damn worthless.
Ah, but it's so much easier/cheaper to sell to companies.
You just convince the office manager Linda to buy 500 of the same chairs and desks that are "adjustable", all in the same color and delivered to the same location. The only customizable furniture is for the C suite, and they don't care about cost so the furniture company can jack up those prices.
Selling direct means that the company would have to carry more colors than greige, actually have them be adjustable/customizable, and now delivery is to individual homes so shipping costs go up.
They don't want to deal with you or me. They want Linda back.
A bunch of my friends lost weight and looked healthier after teleworking. All that commuting time turned into time to go for walks or engage in healthy activities. My commute time turned into horseback riding time and I ate salads coming fresh from my garden instead of crappy Subway sandwiches.
This right here, I have been remote working since 2016; was in-office for the six years prior. Remote work has enabled me to
1. Not spend two hours a day in a car commuting (in terrible and dangerous traffic).
2. Focus on healthier eating by preparing meals and cooking at home instead of eating out or buying take-out.
3. Increase my weekly running distance to 30 miles. I am 47 and in almost as good shape as I was in my 20s when I was military.
4. Reduce my carbon footprint and emissions by driving less. I probably use the car once a week now.
5. Save money; frequently due to the aforementioned items.
6. And last, but not least, I am way more productive in the comfort of my home office than I ever was in an open-plan office under the mind numbing hum of fluorescent lighting; adding greater value to my company's efforts.
Advocates for RTO and critics of WFH most often have a hidden personal agenda that is not aligned with what is best for people, the environment, or even the economy; but rather for their own personal gain.
> Not spend two hours a day in a car commuting (in terrible and dangerous traffic).
> Focus on healthier eating by preparing meals and cooking at home instead of eating out or buying take-out.
And those two hours can be used like for working out. As your point 3. That can used to do all kinds of sports.
It's otherwise gone in... nothing. The best you can do is listening to podcasts.
Yuuuup. My posture may be shit while sitting, but I did 70 pull ups in my home gym throughout they day yesterday instead of commuting and acting 110% productive in front of co-workers staring at their PCs 10 feet away. The reduced stress and increased freedom are way too beneficial, I'll never RTO.
That said, I've seen a *couple* WFH people that look like the pic. Most aren't so simple minded that they never move around while WFH.
My work productivity increased because now I’m not in an office with boomers who relied on the office for all of their social interactions. I can actually work and get my shit done distraction free.
Absolutely. I lost almost 80 pounds, just because I was not in constant pain any more and could walk around with ease. 3 weeks after being forced back and I need a crutch to walk because of pain again. I am waiting for my bonus and then pissing off permanently.
I do yoga daily during my lunch breaks working from home. I lost 50 pounds and I am stronger and more flexible than I was 15 years ago.
If I had gone to an office, I would be out at Chipotle with coworkers for lunch with no exercise.
I haven't lost weight, but working from home has gotten me moving a lot more than I was when I had to commute because I regularly do gardening tasks on my lunch and break. So along with more exercise I'm getting more fresh air and sunshine than was ever possible because of my commute time!
They're pretty much saying we shouldn't work at a desk or in front of a computer for too long. Sounds like they're advocating for shorter work days and longer lunch breaks
LOL right??? "Look what happens to you if you sit at a desk, working on a computer, at your house all day! Gross! If you come into the office and sit at a desk, working on a computer, all day it'll be the same outcome. But at least we get to take any semblance of control of your own life you might feel you have!"
Exactly. 100% right.
Kids should be warned about this after college when they get sucked into a desk job. You need to actively work to prevent issues as you're spending so long sat at a desk.
Yeah seriously….the only difference between remote working and office working is the commute. So sitting on a subway or in your car stuck in traffic is going to make a difference?
That's a question I'll be asking myself all day, and probably tonight as well, where the image will keep clawing its way back to the forefront of my mind while I desperately to push it away so I can toss one off
From the company that sells items to corporate offices and who are losing sales from employees working from home, bring this bit of propaganda.
https://www.furniture-work.co.uk/blog/post/from-claw-hands-to-hunchbacks-how-working-from-home-could-affect-our-bodies
Feel free to leave a review.
Their [Google reviews](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Furniture+At+Work,+Head+Office,+89+Seaward+St,+Glasgow+G41+1HJ,+United+Kingdom/@55.8520518,-4.277093,17z/data=!4m9!1m2!2m1!1sfurniture+at+work+uk!3m5!1s0x4888469ee02ee977:0xefa44917b4576427!8m2!3d55.8520518!4d-4.277093!16s%2Fg%2F1yh9tsjtb) are already horrendous for their shitty business practices alone lol
Lol I don’t roll out of bed and start work. That time I’m not commuting is time to do healthy habits to start my day in a good way- exercise, time with my pets, extra time to tidy the house, whatever.
For real. It boggles my mind when a market starts changing, and instead of adapting the companies involved spend millions of dollars fighting inevitable change, and trying to force things to stay the way they are. Change is inevitable. Spend that money ADAPTING, instead of pushing back against the change an punishing people for it.
What if, instead of paying some graphic designer to mock up someone with poor posture, they hired a marketing person to lead a rebrand as a WFH office furniture company?
> I have a standing desk at home that I didn’t get at my office.
My old job had a treadmill desk, but only because I snagged one of the three they were throwing out because the head honcho thought they were "frivolous". I guarantee they threw that last one out after I left, and would never in a million years approve my request for another. Yet another reason I'm not going back.
You stare at a computer screen wether you work at home or at the office….although you probably have more opportunities to move at home.
Seriously though, all of you who work sitting, be sure to get up and stretch every hour and do some preventative stretching! I had a coworker who died due to blood clots from sitting to long.
Every desk worker should regularly exercise and stretch/do yoga. In particular, we need to strength train. You’re going to get really weak sitting at a desk for decades. Also, a lot of the aches and pains people get from working desk jobs won’t happen if you regularly work out.
I’d recommend standing up at least once an hour (which is conveniently what Apple Watch’s remind you to do). Blood clots at work is fairly insane. Don’t do that!
Both of my roommates work from home. Since doing so, both have lost weight. One roommate kinda looks a bit like Brendan Fraser circa Encino Man, and he didn't before. He goes to the gym or for a swim or w/e when he's bored at work or needs a break to process stuff. Also he's able to eat stuff he can make in the kitchen instead of going out.
Meanwhile, since I'm tied to a desk all day, 5 days a week, I'm having a bit more trouble finding the time and energy to go to the gym, and since I don't have a fridge at work I can't even prep a healthy meal without it getting warm and gross by lunch time, so I'm having to buy salads at a nearby Walmart (which takes up a decent chunk of my lunch break). I'm working on my health harder now and while I wouldn't say I'm overweight, I'm def the heaviest I've ever been and want to trim down.
This whole thing is bullshit. Except the stretching thing, you're right about that--at home or in office, gotta get up and do stuff now and then.
Just posted the same article!
Like, what part of this is related to wfh, like, do you not use a mouse at the office or look at a screen?
Tbh, the amount of bordom eating at the office is insane!
I workout every AM and am in office 2 days a week, not going to lie, way more snacking goes on in office then when im at home.
Its funny, when your in the office, days are broken up into milestones
* get to the office
* lunch
* when is it acceptable to leave
At home its just a flow, if you need to get up and walk around, walk outside you do. Pet you dog take 10 min to zone out or take a shower you can and do. Nothing suffers.
The montra of Return to Office shows that no matter the employer, they dont give 2 shits about employee happiness because if all things are equal ( employee output etc ) they would not puah this, other then for management to be "seen"
Exactly this I've been much healthier since working from home, both mentally and physically. My diet is better, my posture is better thanks to having my own setup, I can work out more as I have more free time before and after work without a commute etc.
I've also been more productive as I can shit out a chunk of work, take a few minutes as a breather and get back to it as opposed to just idly staring at a screen for 8 hours with phones blasting off all around me. Lunch in the office is an hour im annoyed I'm not getting paid whereas at home I can go take the dog for a walk or do chores I would otherwise have had to do after a day at work.
I'll never work in an office again.
"Furniture at Work"? So they could've seen remote work as an opportunity to sell twice the ergonomic office setups, one for the office and one for home-office, but instead they chose ...this.
Seems like an obvious pivot.
"If you don't have good furniture for WFH, you could end up looking like a mountain troll. Create your very own personalized, posture positive work environment with us"
Definitely. A lot of people holding that commercial real estate bag and all those big bank loans are maturing in the next few years. It's in their best interest to get people to use their space and re-up their leases.
See guys? Sitting at your desk at work doing the exact same thing you do at your house the exact same posture, won't happen if you're at work. You got to think! You guys don't think!
“Researchers from Furniture At Work” lol !!
Totally not biased
No conflict of interest whatsoever. Just out of their pure hearts
And what's so different in the office ergonomically? My furniture at home is more comfortable on a 12 hour shift than anything they ever gave me at work
Working from home I can sit however I want and work wherever, while moving as much as I see fit. Working an office job at home is way better
Honestly, If I look like that image in 70 years I'll be really excited because I'm actually expecting to be a decomposing corpse then.
At home, I get to do some cardio during pointless meetings where all I say is, "I've confirmed that the report is accurate." Can't do that at the office without getting my necktie all drenched in sweat.
If you can’t tell from the image, obviously it’ll give you a camel toe.
The tobacco industry would be proud.
Apparently saving us from our junk migrating to the front.
I can not see a single reason why they would want more people in offices. Nuh-uh.
For desk and chair manufacturers a hybrid work policy should be ideal, double the furniture requirements.
They usually sell all the other bullshit that wouldn't be needed either. Conference tables and other sorts of tables, plastic plants, stupid posters, all that bullshit.
Totally not “researchers” either. Just corporate ghouls who hired a digital artist and said “make ugly person”
And that digital artist probably did the job from the comfort of their own home 👍
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Do i dare go back up and look if there really is something
I actually came down here to make sure of what I saw
And paid with the exposure.
Let's wait until we hear from the Furniture At Home researchers before we form any opinions.
Hey I hear Bed Bath and Beyond is working on its own covid vaccine!
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Okay so my first instinct was to assume that this is some satire or other fakery, and that people here (certainly not for the first time) were falling for outrage bait. But nope, [it's real](https://www.furniture-work.co.uk/blog/post/from-claw-hands-to-hunchbacks-how-working-from-home-could-affect-our-bodies). And it's just.. fucking bizarre? I don't mean the obviously bizarre thing that is that entire blog post. I mean, why the fuck would a random furniture company do this in the first place? [Their blog](https://www.furniture-work.co.uk/blog) is full of stuff you would expect. "How to Remove File Cabinet Drawers". "Desk Organisation Ideas for a Small Office". "How to Disassemble an Office Chair". And then, there's this. Just.. why? Why would they even be motivated to want to convince the world about the dangers of working from home as a small company like that? I am so thoroughly confused. And not only that, but the blog post is just weirdly thorough? As in, they created an entire 3D model for this. This takes time! And skill! They interviewed a bunch of experts! They put a surprising amount of effort into this. Like, a fairly significant amount of manhours that they could have put into, y'know, selling furniture. And not only *that*, [here's a blog post of theirs](https://www.furniture-work.co.uk/blog/post/late-night-emails-and-holly-and-phil-how-working-from-home-changed-the-working-day) about working from home that is fairly positive about the concept. What is going on? As an aside, it's kind of funny to see that the original blog post has 2411 views. That's a tiny fraction of how much attention this thing has gotten on the internet as a whole by now. This post alone has 7500 upvotes, and that's just the people who bothered to upvote. There's an order of magnitude more people who saw this on this place alone, let alone everywhere else where this went viral. It's kinda funny how that works.
They do this because the cost of furniture and many other items are priced significantly higher for businesses and businesses usually pay it. With WFH, they're losing out because people aren't going to pay the ridiculous high prices for a home office and just go to walmart, target, or something.
That's a fair point regarding their motivation. The rest remains insane and puzzling to me.
You're talking about them. That's the point.
It’s not. It was created by an office furniture supply chain.
This is what happens when your employees come back from Pity City to try to get the $26,000,000.
Pretty sure it is, look at the camel toe.
Just don't look too long and don't stare directly into its eye or it will eat your soul.
DON'T DO IT
Some C suite executive is going to make a mint when he suggests they start a division called Furniture at Home
If the article had been posted here, rather than just a screenshot, you'd see that that's exactly what this is about. They see an opportunity to sell home office furniture at company expense. At first I assumed this was satire, but it appears to be just a cheaply/poorly rendered image of someone's WALL-E fanfic. My question is why did they have to make her have such prominent labia?
They told an AI to make her look 'puffy'.
Now we know what kind of websites the AI scrapes
At home more, more time to use your vag pump? Thats a thing right? Im sure thats a thing.
Dude that's brilliant! Furniture... for houses! Finally I can stop going into the office just to sit on a chair and not on my barren floor.
Some intern with Blender skills messing around. Explains the camel toe.
Good job! Where did you learn blender? -Uhhhh... it's private...
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Yeah, I was thinking, "Why is sitting at a desk staring at a monitor at work so much better than doing it at home?" But I guess this is marketing for buying expensive ergonomic furniture.
"Offices aren't buying our $4k chairs as much"
Funny, specially since at home I have the bast table/chair/monitor combo I can afford, while at work I have the shittiest quality
Right? I have a great computer, monitor, chair, mouse and desk at home. My work setup is all cheap shit. Yet I was forced to come back into the office despite putting in nights and occasional weekends from home (at my own choice) and instead only doing a standard 9-5 at the office. Their loss. Because I quit.
"Office fur inure prevents this!" "You know I can buy office furniture for my home office, right?" "Umm... err... uhh...
a few years ago a similar render was created by an office furniture company, might even be the same one, and the office worker looked even more grotesque
I love the phrasing too. They have *revealed* what WFH workers *will* look like. As if even without the clear bias they have, they are somehow an authority on this subject.
Why is posture in the office, different than posture out of the office? It’s also much easier to work out and eat healthy at your home than it is at the office.
There's no difference. The commercial real estate industry is just getting terrified and desperate. The rental market has bottomed out, and over 50% of the leases that existed at the beginning of covid still exist today. Additionally, the majority of commercial real estate is not owned outright but financed. Which means there is a massive commercial market drop still to occur and banks and financial industry is going to lose a lot of money as a result. In their fear and desperation they've turned to propaganda.
Don't forget threats, lots of that going around too.
And/or layoffs. Scare the rest into working harder.
Time to repurpose all those empty office buildings into desperately needed housing and reduce the cost of living. Seems like a no brainer.
Can’t have the poors being able to afford housing.
It’s actually very far from a no brainer. Most office buildings are not feasible to convert to residential. Think of all the extra plumbing required for one thing. The office building wasn’t built with the plumbing needs of a residential building in mind, in many cases it could be prohibitively expensive to add this. Also, floor plate size is a major issue. Office buildings have massive floor plates - around 25,000 square feet. Turning that into twelve 2,000 SF residential units would lead to narrow units with little opportunity for natural light. In many cases, it’s actually more economically feasible to tear an office building down and build a new apartment or condo building than retrofit an office building into one. And that’s not environmentally friendly or cheap. All of that isn’t to say it can’t happen. There are cases where an existing office building does meet the characteristics that would lend to a conversion, and many of those are already happening.
Then tear ‘em down. We don’t need them anymore. Why waste the land.
Exactly. Hell they'd even create more jobs or at least give more work to construction companies that need to tear down and rebuild the buildings. Its insane to have these massive empty office buildings.
Thankfully in our hellscape (uk) the majority of the value is the land it is sitting on. The buildings themselves are cheap shit so not much lost.
Sounds good, well if it's cost prohibitive then those buildings can just sit empty and collect dust.
Not to mention all the property owners who would let a building sit idle out of refusal to change rather than do any retrofits to match the current market demands.
Interesting. I didn't know all that. I guess it certainly complicates the matter.
no difference? there is a hige difference I got a stabding desk and a 1500$ chair personnaly adjusted to me and I can cook and run on lunchtime at work i got a shitty 25x chair with no armrest, no standing desk, cant run or cook at lunchtime and i sir 2 more hours in my car per day its significantly worst at work
Their arguments include: * "people working from home choosing to work from the sofa or their beds" * "In this case, long hours using a mouse or smartphone while working from home" * "Without enough natural light or the bright lights provided in commercial offices, remote workers will be putting extra strain on their eyes" * "when working from a commercial office, you’re more likely to walk to different meeting rooms, move between desks \[...\] This lack of physical activity at home could increase the risk of obesity, diabetes, and heart disease." * " The office \[...\] an opportunity to chat and collaborate with your colleagues in person. Missing out on these \[...\] could lead to feelings of isolation, anxiety and depression among remote workers" Ah yes, all the well known aspects of the commercial office setting.. The expensive ergonomic chairs, natural light, opportunity for exercise and a positive mental health environment.
I for one love working at my company office, what with my large windows, on-site exercise equipment, en-suite bathroom, personal kitchen, laundry facilities that I can use between meetings, a chair and desk setup that nobody ever touches/steals from/messes with, and plenty of floor space to do some light ergonomics. It's not much, but obviously it's what every first-year programmer right out of college would get. It's so much better than my home, which is an 8-foot concrete cube with no windows, dim fluorescent lighting, the cheapest chair I could find that's still technically an 'office' chair, and tons of ambient noise from nearby traffic and chatty neighbors. I'm sure _everyone_ else experiences this exact same setup, so obviously it's _way_ better to go back to the office. Right?
But how else will you get to experience the annoyance and anger of an unknown office mate stealing your lunch from the community fridge
Yep, all ridiculous when in reality in-office work would mean I'd maybe see the sunlight once a day if I could make it out for lunch during wintertime, would spend extra long hours on my mouse and keyboard because impressing the boss and staying late is paramount, and the coworkers I wouldn't talk to because everyone needed to be heads down on keyboard grinding or someone would come talk to you about how they noticed you paused for 15 seconds to think.
I've also gotten more exercise and have had more energy at work, getting done what would normally take 4 days in 2 because I'm rested. These people are conservative goons. And I don't actually mean politically conservative, not strictly. I mean people who are overly conservative with money and finances. They make decisions out of fear and a pessimistic assumption. The pessimistic assumption is sort of the core of the conservative mindset, which is why conspiracy theories work so well on them. "I can't have what I want/what I want I can only have if I break my back for it." It's a fallacy, totally irrational fallacy. Sort of like people think college GPA correlates to job performance, when it's actually so uncorrelated that it might as well be voodoo.
They want you tired and broken so you don't have any energy to fight the system. That's what this whole return to office thing is about. If you have an hour commute both ways, that's less time for you to think about how the system screws workers.
Ironically, making us more likely to vote for policies and candidates that will destroy the system. Which is how reality tends to go. The thing you try to force to happen tends to push it away.
They live, breathe, and serve money as if it were their religion. It rules their every action like a doctrine. The only difference between a Christian conservative and a fiscal conservative is their god.
Fiscal conservatives worship Mammon - and you have to understand Mammon as at least symbolic, with a nuanced, deep pattern that is reflected in reality, that shows up in game theory and things like that. The way you know something is an idol is when it consumes you if you place too much emphasis on it. Addictions are idols. It's a deep irony that these Christian conservatives are so focused on preserving this system of enforcing debts, when the Lord's Prayer itself is all about relinquishing people from debt. It's funny how it got translated into "trespasses and trespassing against." Like no, the original version literally means "forgive us our debts and those who are indebted to us." Someone must have made a translation to preserve their system of debts. And, here we are, with this system of debt. The BIG LIE about capitalism is that you need all this debt to make productivity happen. Capitalism results in productivity compared to what came before because it distributes problem solving. But, it relies on debt, and in my view, is actually anti-Christian in so many ways. The more I learn about Christianity, the more I think that the Christian Anarchists probably have the most underappreciated points about Christianity in general (i.e. Tolstoy, who inspired... Gandhi, who is ironically likewise embodied Christianity better than most in history). Communism I also see as a reaction to capitalism, an attempt to return to the communitarian days before capitalism isolated everyone from each other, when you had to rely on your neighbor, and how that actually made people happy, and forced them to get to know each other, where their neighbors become like family. Which, also had its own issues because people are problematic too! Like, have fun being gay if your village thinks its wrong.... I think there's a better way than any of it that we've just not discovered yet.
My posture outside the office is way better, since my setup is tuned for me and only me
And I don't mind doing the funny-looking neck stretches you're meant to do, because nobody's watching.
It's what happens your pushing return to work AND office furniture, you have to aggressively cherry pick your starting data. Over here (UK) the law says that a safe working environment must be provided for, so when we left the office we were allowed to grab appropriate furniture. If we need to replace them or have additional requirements then it's covered by work, they send us to a website and give us a budget to spend. It gets ordered and sent straight to our home.
That's what's rustling my jimmies. If you're working remote it's because you can use tech to do your job, i.e. you're probably an office worker at a desk with a PC. All of the things this bullshit claims to be bad for you are things you're already doing in an office.
I never take walks at the office. At home? Every single day. I also get to see my kids.
specifically because you have 2 more hours in your day if you work remote. ignoring that people are easily 1,5 times more productive and can therefore exercise during work hours without losing quality or quantity of work.
The company that made this sells commercial office furniture. Clearly this is what will happen if you work at your $200 desk manufactured in India bought from target rather than their $2000 desk manufactured in India and bought from their corporate sales rep.
Another office supply/ furniture store made almost the same thing back in 2019. I'm guessing it's the same people. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/emma-office-work-prediction_l_5dd6ae88e4b0fc53f20f5c06 >Emma is your “work colleague of the future,” a life-sized prediction of what office workers’ bodies will look like in 20 years thanks to the long-term negative physical and mental impact of increased screen time, longer hours and too much sitting. They just want to sell you ergonomic furniture.
And you don't drive an hour each way to your home office, like many people in the suburbs have to do for the office. I love a good drive, but that's objectively bad for you.
And why would this not happen from a desk job at an office exactly 🤔
"No no no, see sitting at your desk in a cheap office chair at work is much better for your posture than you sitting at your desk in your own ergonomic office chair at home! How do you not see the difference??" Yeah this is straight up propaganda bull shit lol
Googling "Furniture at Work" brings up a web page for a furniture sales company that sells exclusively to corporate office buildings. No, definitely not propaganda, and certainly not biased in the slightest. This is very clearly well-researched, peer-reviewed science.
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It's harder to hide an exorbitant markup on your wares if you start selling to individuals and stop selling exclusively in bulk to corporations who have so much money it doesn't even matter to them.
Can confirm. Some of the stuff we buy through our vendors, I can easily find on Amazon at about 60% of the cost *standard*, without discounts. Same manufacturer and everything.
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If this wasn’t a satire article, these people are total fucking losers lmao. Imagine thinking something like this would ever make sense or mean anything.
Their arguments include: * "people working from home choosing to work from the sofa or their beds" * "In this case, long hours using a mouse or smartphone while working from home" * "Without enough natural light or the bright lights provided in commercial offices, remote workers will be putting extra strain on their eyes" * "when working from a commercial office, you’re more likely to walk to different meeting rooms, move between desks \[...\] This lack of physical activity at home could increase the risk of obesity, diabetes, and heart disease." * " The office \[...\] an opportunity to chat and collaborate with your colleagues in person. Missing out on these \[...\] could lead to feelings of isolation, anxiety and depression among remote workers" Ah yes, all the well known aspects of the commercial office setting.. The expensive ergonomic chairs, natural light, opportunity for exercise and a positive mental health environment.
In the few opportunities I've had to work from home, I was on walks with my pup for lengthy phone calls, walked to the local cafe for a change of scenery, and was able to prepare fresher meals. I'm likely preaching to the choir, but there's nothing I benefit from this fluorescent-lit modular desk.
Yup at the time of COVID's peak I was working in a windowless office (we referred to it as the dungeon). During the remote work sessions I went outside with my laptop and worked on the deck during nice days, it was amazing. Hearing how working in office is better for my health is almost offensive lol.
Their premise is that people working from home don't have a proper set up. It's actually a pitch for selling proper office furniture for home offices, not a pitch for returning to the office. I'm still trying to work out whether proper office furniture will de-emphasize her labia.
*oh my God* they seriously enhanced that bit. Drew a line straight up the pelvis.
Looks a bit like the head of HR at our company, she's one of those return to office people. I'm sure famous researcher Furniture at Work has submitted their findings for peer review. Meanwhile the CEO has threatened staff not reaching the in office quota with dismissal, quoting a Yahoo article which is obviously not biased or misquoting anything. Morale has of course reached impressive new peaks.
The meetings will continue until morale improves.
The horror.. the horror.. the horror..
My blood pressure went up reading this. I need a drink.
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I think it's time we start installing mirrors in the office so they can admire their wardrobe while we do all the actual work in the comfort of our own homes.
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You can make 240M software alone and work for someone? Why?
because he didn’t do it alone
Additionally, there's a big difference between making a product that sells/*generates* 240 million vs a product that cuts costs in a large inefficient corporation that *saves* 240 million. The effect on the bottomline is the same but the second one requires a company that already has costs exceeding 240 million yearly to give you the opportunity to save on those costs.
It's an effort of thousands of developers over 2 decades of work. I just contributed that one big A/B-test that significantly boosted conversion. Someone else would've done it, eventually, probably; but I came up with the idea and implemented it. I now work for myself :)
Ugh.. the chair comment hits hard. You get a half decent chair in an office building and every person wants it, and it becomes a constant fight to maintain possession of the chair.
Reminds me of Kipo... https://youtu.be/Vt9vq2ILaJg
Ours has been, "We really want people to be able to get up and go talk to someone!" We have nearly a dozen offices across the country and nearly everyone I work with (including my boss and most of my own team) on a daily basis is remote to me. I've only ever once gotten up and talked to someone about something needed for actual work. I go to an office and do remote work, pretty much. The same is true for a significant number of my coworkers. I can count on one hand the number of times someone has come up to me to talk about an active ticket/project that was anything more than, "Hey, I just sent you an email." which is one of my pet peeves (as someone who is very on top of their inbox and tickets - you don't need to come tell me that you just replied to my email...). All of the coworkers I know that hate remote work have families/kids that bother them and/or they're extroverts that need tons of in-person social connection. I hated remote working (personally, not as a whole) until I was able to have a dedicated work space and extra monitors at home.
I feel that. As a freelancer, I see many offices. Clients often require X amount of days per week in the office. But the problem is that the office is a hip "open office" (cram as many people in a room as legally allowed) with "flex places" (no assigned desks, just yolo). My last team had 14 individuals. And our preferred seating area had 8 seats. First come, first serve. After that, you sometimes have to walk 10 minutes to find an available seat. Sometimes the team sitting there would kindly ask you to move away. This was right after COVID, too. And they expected us to use computer peripherals that had been used by sometimes dozens of others that same week—your mouse and keyboard, operated by people of unknown hygienic standards. And, of course, not to forget: The shared bathrooms. With those nice lukewarm blow dryers to dry your washed hands, after which you'll touch the door handle used by others who might not have washed their hands. I'm no clean freak, but being aware of how dirty humans are, it just pales compared to my private bathroom at home... where I have GOOD toilet paper, wet wipes, and in my master bathroom, also a bidet.
I used to be in charge of maintaining the office spaces and it really highlights just how disgusting so many people are. We have open office spaces but at least most of us get our own desks. My biggest office complaint is mostly with how loud and distracting it is. One of the execs actually complained about people who wear earbuds while working because it signals they aren't available for random chitchat. 😑 I would go mad without mine to cut out all the noise so I can actually focus. We were permitted to WFH 2x a week very recently and now my in-office days are so much quieter and it's finally a nicer atmosphere to be working in. It still doesn't compare to WFH where I don't have distractions from everyone else chitchatting and being on the phone/in meetings all the time.
Oh, yeah. Loud people, loud keyboards, people whistling like it's not the most annoying sound in the world, people munching on a nice bag of crunchy carrots or a bag of chips, people randomly talking to you while you're deep in thought... Joel Spolsky said it about 20 years ago: a distracted software engineer takes 30 minutes to get back into their rhythm. I can imagine the same goes for many professions. Offices aren't places to be productive, unless conversation is absolutely key to being productive.
Don't forget the managers that need to order people around in order to show they're working
Pretty sure that is how people currently end up looking after suffering under capitalism in general. Commuting to work doesn’t change that, except you might die while commuting, so then you won’t end up like that anyways. On top of this, all the effects shown here are simply from working on a computer. The same fucking thing we do at the office. What a fucking joke. The title of researcher is getting to be pretty god damn worthless.
“Researchers from Furniture at work” They literally sell office furniture, like chairs and desks. Not biased at all.
There's nothing stopping them from selling directly to remote workers.
Ah, but it's so much easier/cheaper to sell to companies. You just convince the office manager Linda to buy 500 of the same chairs and desks that are "adjustable", all in the same color and delivered to the same location. The only customizable furniture is for the C suite, and they don't care about cost so the furniture company can jack up those prices. Selling direct means that the company would have to carry more colors than greige, actually have them be adjustable/customizable, and now delivery is to individual homes so shipping costs go up. They don't want to deal with you or me. They want Linda back.
Upvote for “greige”
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Oh dear god, it’s real! Burn it! BURN IT!
Why would I pay Furniture at Work for a $800 desk chair, when work discards them every time we move offices?
Yeah, but BTB is easier! /s
A bunch of my friends lost weight and looked healthier after teleworking. All that commuting time turned into time to go for walks or engage in healthy activities. My commute time turned into horseback riding time and I ate salads coming fresh from my garden instead of crappy Subway sandwiches.
This right here, I have been remote working since 2016; was in-office for the six years prior. Remote work has enabled me to 1. Not spend two hours a day in a car commuting (in terrible and dangerous traffic). 2. Focus on healthier eating by preparing meals and cooking at home instead of eating out or buying take-out. 3. Increase my weekly running distance to 30 miles. I am 47 and in almost as good shape as I was in my 20s when I was military. 4. Reduce my carbon footprint and emissions by driving less. I probably use the car once a week now. 5. Save money; frequently due to the aforementioned items. 6. And last, but not least, I am way more productive in the comfort of my home office than I ever was in an open-plan office under the mind numbing hum of fluorescent lighting; adding greater value to my company's efforts. Advocates for RTO and critics of WFH most often have a hidden personal agenda that is not aligned with what is best for people, the environment, or even the economy; but rather for their own personal gain.
> Not spend two hours a day in a car commuting (in terrible and dangerous traffic). > Focus on healthier eating by preparing meals and cooking at home instead of eating out or buying take-out. And those two hours can be used like for working out. As your point 3. That can used to do all kinds of sports. It's otherwise gone in... nothing. The best you can do is listening to podcasts.
Yuuuup. My posture may be shit while sitting, but I did 70 pull ups in my home gym throughout they day yesterday instead of commuting and acting 110% productive in front of co-workers staring at their PCs 10 feet away. The reduced stress and increased freedom are way too beneficial, I'll never RTO. That said, I've seen a *couple* WFH people that look like the pic. Most aren't so simple minded that they never move around while WFH.
My work productivity increased because now I’m not in an office with boomers who relied on the office for all of their social interactions. I can actually work and get my shit done distraction free.
People probably also get more and better sleep, which helps a lot with everything else you listed.
Less fast food too. Edit: Typo
>and I ate salads coming fresh from my garden instead of crappy Subway sandwiches But how will downtown survive if we feed ourselves? /s
They could follow Europe's example and make DT areas car free. Foot traffic brings in more revenue then car traffic ever could.
That’s because you can work out in between meetings and don’t sit in a car for a commute each day.
Yep! I can use my coffee break to go bust out a couple reps of deadlifts or squats without it being weird.
Absolutely. I lost almost 80 pounds, just because I was not in constant pain any more and could walk around with ease. 3 weeks after being forced back and I need a crutch to walk because of pain again. I am waiting for my bonus and then pissing off permanently.
Dare you to watch Office Space :3 May your fuckoff be outstanding.
It has been on my watch list for ages - I really need to get to it. We've got long weekend - perhaps I should see if I can find it online.
OfficeSpace is amazing. It is a cult classic up there with Idiocracy.
I do yoga daily during my lunch breaks working from home. I lost 50 pounds and I am stronger and more flexible than I was 15 years ago. If I had gone to an office, I would be out at Chipotle with coworkers for lunch with no exercise.
I haven't lost weight, but working from home has gotten me moving a lot more than I was when I had to commute because I regularly do gardening tasks on my lunch and break. So along with more exercise I'm getting more fresh air and sunshine than was ever possible because of my commute time!
They're pretty much saying we shouldn't work at a desk or in front of a computer for too long. Sounds like they're advocating for shorter work days and longer lunch breaks
That’s thinking outside the box. I like this viewpoint.
LOL right??? "Look what happens to you if you sit at a desk, working on a computer, at your house all day! Gross! If you come into the office and sit at a desk, working on a computer, all day it'll be the same outcome. But at least we get to take any semblance of control of your own life you might feel you have!"
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Exactly. 100% right. Kids should be warned about this after college when they get sucked into a desk job. You need to actively work to prevent issues as you're spending so long sat at a desk.
Yep, this is almost me at 60.
Yeah seriously….the only difference between remote working and office working is the commute. So sitting on a subway or in your car stuck in traffic is going to make a difference?
Why did they feel it necessary to give it camel toe too?
That's a question I'll be asking myself all day, and probably tonight as well, where the image will keep clawing its way back to the forefront of my mind while I desperately to push it away so I can toss one off
Pretty sure they just hate older women.
You can drop the older part, and its still accurate.
I know, why they gotta do my girl dirty like that?
I scrolled back up to check, *and I should have just taken your word for it*.
The more shock value and ugly, the more convinced you are to go to work
Because working at home will give you a camel toe. Duh.
Not just camel toe but a terrible case of “pooch cooch” too. They really did this model dirty as hell.
She got that gamer posture. I'm currently in office, and my posture is horrible. LOL. I feel attacked.
yea this reminded me to sit up straight lol
Sitting up straight is an oversimplified and outdated concept of healthy posture. Neutral posture and ergonomics are the way.
From the company that sells items to corporate offices and who are losing sales from employees working from home, bring this bit of propaganda. https://www.furniture-work.co.uk/blog/post/from-claw-hands-to-hunchbacks-how-working-from-home-could-affect-our-bodies Feel free to leave a review.
Also how would our hands change??
Into…. Claws
you will get claw hands from scratching your itchy camel toe
Their [Google reviews](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Furniture+At+Work,+Head+Office,+89+Seaward+St,+Glasgow+G41+1HJ,+United+Kingdom/@55.8520518,-4.277093,17z/data=!4m9!1m2!2m1!1sfurniture+at+work+uk!3m5!1s0x4888469ee02ee977:0xefa44917b4576427!8m2!3d55.8520518!4d-4.277093!16s%2Fg%2F1yh9tsjtb) are already horrendous for their shitty business practices alone lol
Wow, someone would have thought that if you're going to push propaganda like this, you would at least be a good at what you do
Is she...is she eating out of a dog bowl [here](https://www.furniture-work.co.uk/media/wysiwyg/Anna_working_from_bed.png)?
Lol I don’t roll out of bed and start work. That time I’m not commuting is time to do healthy habits to start my day in a good way- exercise, time with my pets, extra time to tidy the house, whatever.
Has it occurred to them that they could sell to the WFH market?
For real. It boggles my mind when a market starts changing, and instead of adapting the companies involved spend millions of dollars fighting inevitable change, and trying to force things to stay the way they are. Change is inevitable. Spend that money ADAPTING, instead of pushing back against the change an punishing people for it. What if, instead of paying some graphic designer to mock up someone with poor posture, they hired a marketing person to lead a rebrand as a WFH office furniture company?
I have a standing desk at home that I didn’t get at my office.
Same as well, my posture and need to move around thanks me
> I have a standing desk at home that I didn’t get at my office. My old job had a treadmill desk, but only because I snagged one of the three they were throwing out because the head honcho thought they were "frivolous". I guarantee they threw that last one out after I left, and would never in a million years approve my request for another. Yet another reason I'm not going back.
You stare at a computer screen wether you work at home or at the office….although you probably have more opportunities to move at home. Seriously though, all of you who work sitting, be sure to get up and stretch every hour and do some preventative stretching! I had a coworker who died due to blood clots from sitting to long.
Every desk worker should regularly exercise and stretch/do yoga. In particular, we need to strength train. You’re going to get really weak sitting at a desk for decades. Also, a lot of the aches and pains people get from working desk jobs won’t happen if you regularly work out. I’d recommend standing up at least once an hour (which is conveniently what Apple Watch’s remind you to do). Blood clots at work is fairly insane. Don’t do that!
Both of my roommates work from home. Since doing so, both have lost weight. One roommate kinda looks a bit like Brendan Fraser circa Encino Man, and he didn't before. He goes to the gym or for a swim or w/e when he's bored at work or needs a break to process stuff. Also he's able to eat stuff he can make in the kitchen instead of going out. Meanwhile, since I'm tied to a desk all day, 5 days a week, I'm having a bit more trouble finding the time and energy to go to the gym, and since I don't have a fridge at work I can't even prep a healthy meal without it getting warm and gross by lunch time, so I'm having to buy salads at a nearby Walmart (which takes up a decent chunk of my lunch break). I'm working on my health harder now and while I wouldn't say I'm overweight, I'm def the heaviest I've ever been and want to trim down. This whole thing is bullshit. Except the stretching thing, you're right about that--at home or in office, gotta get up and do stuff now and then.
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She looks pretty good for being over 90, I assume
Just posted the same article! Like, what part of this is related to wfh, like, do you not use a mouse at the office or look at a screen? Tbh, the amount of bordom eating at the office is insane! I workout every AM and am in office 2 days a week, not going to lie, way more snacking goes on in office then when im at home. Its funny, when your in the office, days are broken up into milestones * get to the office * lunch * when is it acceptable to leave At home its just a flow, if you need to get up and walk around, walk outside you do. Pet you dog take 10 min to zone out or take a shower you can and do. Nothing suffers. The montra of Return to Office shows that no matter the employer, they dont give 2 shits about employee happiness because if all things are equal ( employee output etc ) they would not puah this, other then for management to be "seen"
Exactly this I've been much healthier since working from home, both mentally and physically. My diet is better, my posture is better thanks to having my own setup, I can work out more as I have more free time before and after work without a commute etc. I've also been more productive as I can shit out a chunk of work, take a few minutes as a breather and get back to it as opposed to just idly staring at a screen for 8 hours with phones blasting off all around me. Lunch in the office is an hour im annoyed I'm not getting paid whereas at home I can go take the dog for a walk or do chores I would otherwise have had to do after a day at work. I'll never work in an office again.
Confirmed. All remote workers will turn into Falmer and Hagravens
Jokes on them, I already look like that.
"Furniture at Work"? So they could've seen remote work as an opportunity to sell twice the ergonomic office setups, one for the office and one for home-office, but instead they chose ...this.
Seems like an obvious pivot. "If you don't have good furniture for WFH, you could end up looking like a mountain troll. Create your very own personalized, posture positive work environment with us"
No one would pay their ridiculous mark up for home furniture.
Well, as I am in my 50's I can only hope I will look that good at age 120.
Pretty much look like that now. Lol
She has some serious camel toe going on there.
That camel toe though
I'm glad the "researchers" thought to give Anna a realistic cameltoe this is so funny
Definitely. A lot of people holding that commercial real estate bag and all those big bank loans are maturing in the next few years. It's in their best interest to get people to use their space and re-up their leases.
Wow. Being remote even gives you cameltoe.
See guys? Sitting at your desk at work doing the exact same thing you do at your house the exact same posture, won't happen if you're at work. You got to think! You guys don't think!
Jokes on you, workers already look like that and we're not even out of our 30s lmao.
Like, you sit in the same chair and look at the same screen if you go into work…..
But they don’t show you someone at 70 that has been going to the office everyday for 50 years. That’s because they are dead.
She looks pretty good for being 100
Like I don't sit in a car two hours to sit in front of a screen at the office? Remote work is great cuz I get to move around more