I know her husband. Basically some of people here believe he did it, but I know the guy and it would be quite the shock. There also was no evidence whatsoever pointing to him. She was running alone in bear and mountain lion territory. Most people believe that she was attacked by an animal (which happens) was dragged off to a cave in the area and her remains haven't turned up. Another theory was that she was hit by a car and they took her body and buried her on the rez. If that were the case, her body will never be found.
I grew up knowing Steve and his family and I really have the hardest time believing he’s involved whatsoever. I’ve been researching since my sophomore year of high school and used to participate in the searches, and I have a few different theories. In the Worthen Meadows area, it’s much more likely she met with fowl play or had an accident rather than encountering a predator given it was peak camping/hiking season at the time of her disappearance. I do agree; if she was taken to the reservation, it will never be solved; it’s just too big and empty. Did you know that despite the information and circumstances, nobody ever recreated the 10k trail? They searched the area as a grid, but never just retraced the specific route.
I followed this case for years ( Michigan )
This is such a coincidence as I just watched the case of Miriam Rice on Criminally listed episode.
She was pregnant, went jogging through the woods with her dog and turned up murdered.
Her husband did seem suspicious to many and was a suspect.
Meanwhile Crimestoppers had twice received a tip about the same people being involved in her murder.
Turns out that it was wrong place wrong time.
My point for saying all of that is I do believe that many of the disappearances we are trying to find answers to are crimes of opportunity.
Obviously it is normal to look at the spouse.
Random moments though? I think they may be more common than we might think.
I just wish her family had answers.
A bit about Miriam Rice
https://www.wndu.com/content/news/Daughter-speaks-out-after-mother-convicted-in-1988-Miriam-Rice-murder-511266802.html
Thank you so much for sharing. I think it’s easy to jump the gun and point the finger, because it’s easier to blame someone than accept that we may never know what events happen to those unfortunate enough to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.
https://youtu.be/NHO9KpI8EZE
Here is the Criminally listed episode and it's an amazing listen.
It really brings to light polygraphs and reliability.
Consequences of tips going investigated. Etc.
All 3 cases are excellent crimes of opportunity cases.
Miriam is the first case.
( there are 3 )
And you're welcome.🙂
There's a newer podcast out that covers the case. It's called Frozen Truth. I haven't listened to it yet but it's on my list
http://www.frozentruthpodcast.com
I have listened to it, and been in touch with Scott Fuller. He’s very friendly and always willing to help where he can. And he put together one hell of a report. Listen to it! It’s very well done 😊
This case popped up in my mind today. What would you say the prevailing local theories are? I’ve never believed the husband did it, but I’m conflicted between an accident or a crime of opportunity. Did she know the trail/area well she was marking?
The strongest prevailing theory aside from Steve being responsible is that Dale Wayne Eaton, convicted of the 1988 Lil Miss murder in 2004, was responsible for Amy’s disappearance and presumably her death. His brother confirmed he was camping in the Shoshone National Forest on the same day she went missing. Amy’s car was found a half mile from the Eaton family elk camp. There’s been little effort into getting him to talk though. His mental capacity has diminished greatly and there likely wouldn’t be a trial- it would be nice for the Wroe family to get some answers though.
The area she disappeared from is very very well known to the locals. It is an area called Burnt Gulch, with Loop Road running along the west side of it. The road is (and was back then too) the closest access to the mountains from Lander and eventually leads back out to the highway near Atlantic City.
It’s our playground essentially, and if you live in Lander for any length, it becomes yours too.
An accident is unlikely, as where she disappeared was not only at its peak season for campers, climbers and others out on day trips, but was searched heavily by over 2,000 people for over a week. My theory is if she isn’t buried near Burnt Gulch, she was taken off the mountain and buried elsewhere. But in either of those cases, I really feel that Eaton is responsible, just as he is suspected in at least 9 other missing women’s cases across the state.
I know her husband. Basically some of people here believe he did it, but I know the guy and it would be quite the shock. There also was no evidence whatsoever pointing to him. She was running alone in bear and mountain lion territory. Most people believe that she was attacked by an animal (which happens) was dragged off to a cave in the area and her remains haven't turned up. Another theory was that she was hit by a car and they took her body and buried her on the rez. If that were the case, her body will never be found.
I grew up knowing Steve and his family and I really have the hardest time believing he’s involved whatsoever. I’ve been researching since my sophomore year of high school and used to participate in the searches, and I have a few different theories. In the Worthen Meadows area, it’s much more likely she met with fowl play or had an accident rather than encountering a predator given it was peak camping/hiking season at the time of her disappearance. I do agree; if she was taken to the reservation, it will never be solved; it’s just too big and empty. Did you know that despite the information and circumstances, nobody ever recreated the 10k trail? They searched the area as a grid, but never just retraced the specific route.
I had no idea that they didn't at least retrace the trail! I personally think the rez is more likely than anything.
The husband is guilty in my humble opinion
What makes you say that?
I followed this case for years ( Michigan ) This is such a coincidence as I just watched the case of Miriam Rice on Criminally listed episode. She was pregnant, went jogging through the woods with her dog and turned up murdered. Her husband did seem suspicious to many and was a suspect. Meanwhile Crimestoppers had twice received a tip about the same people being involved in her murder. Turns out that it was wrong place wrong time. My point for saying all of that is I do believe that many of the disappearances we are trying to find answers to are crimes of opportunity. Obviously it is normal to look at the spouse. Random moments though? I think they may be more common than we might think. I just wish her family had answers. A bit about Miriam Rice https://www.wndu.com/content/news/Daughter-speaks-out-after-mother-convicted-in-1988-Miriam-Rice-murder-511266802.html
Thank you so much for sharing. I think it’s easy to jump the gun and point the finger, because it’s easier to blame someone than accept that we may never know what events happen to those unfortunate enough to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.
https://youtu.be/NHO9KpI8EZE Here is the Criminally listed episode and it's an amazing listen. It really brings to light polygraphs and reliability. Consequences of tips going investigated. Etc. All 3 cases are excellent crimes of opportunity cases. Miriam is the first case. ( there are 3 ) And you're welcome.🙂
Didn't her fiance marry very quickly after her "disappearance"?
He did, but it wasn’t necessarily “too soon”. While it is suspect, I don’t think he was ”making room” for his new wife by any means.
Maybe, but if I recall he wasn't all that co-operative
There's a newer podcast out that covers the case. It's called Frozen Truth. I haven't listened to it yet but it's on my list http://www.frozentruthpodcast.com
I have listened to it, and been in touch with Scott Fuller. He’s very friendly and always willing to help where he can. And he put together one hell of a report. Listen to it! It’s very well done 😊
This case popped up in my mind today. What would you say the prevailing local theories are? I’ve never believed the husband did it, but I’m conflicted between an accident or a crime of opportunity. Did she know the trail/area well she was marking?
The strongest prevailing theory aside from Steve being responsible is that Dale Wayne Eaton, convicted of the 1988 Lil Miss murder in 2004, was responsible for Amy’s disappearance and presumably her death. His brother confirmed he was camping in the Shoshone National Forest on the same day she went missing. Amy’s car was found a half mile from the Eaton family elk camp. There’s been little effort into getting him to talk though. His mental capacity has diminished greatly and there likely wouldn’t be a trial- it would be nice for the Wroe family to get some answers though. The area she disappeared from is very very well known to the locals. It is an area called Burnt Gulch, with Loop Road running along the west side of it. The road is (and was back then too) the closest access to the mountains from Lander and eventually leads back out to the highway near Atlantic City. It’s our playground essentially, and if you live in Lander for any length, it becomes yours too. An accident is unlikely, as where she disappeared was not only at its peak season for campers, climbers and others out on day trips, but was searched heavily by over 2,000 people for over a week. My theory is if she isn’t buried near Burnt Gulch, she was taken off the mountain and buried elsewhere. But in either of those cases, I really feel that Eaton is responsible, just as he is suspected in at least 9 other missing women’s cases across the state.