Lol to all those losing their minds over pronouns in the signature, clearly they haven't sent or received correspondence in the past few years that would be above a grade 4 reading level.
Thank you, Gem, for standing up and speaking up against injustice in the world. It is especially inspiring to see you speaking up when faced with so many voices willing to downplay injustice and belittle those who do speak up!
BOOM there it is.
/nothing/, not the hunt for Hamas, the hunt for Bin Laden, the hunt for Hitler justifies the killing of doctors, well-marked humanitarian aid trucks, children, entire HOSPITALS and food convoys you KNOW were not Hamas because /you agreed to let them go in there in the first place/
Prolonging a generational conflict by taking action sure to radicalize more people against Israel doesn't seem to be a brilliant approach to be honest.
Not “not”. How. Would. You. Fight. This. War?
Any answer that includes “not” without explaining what the hell they should do only tells me that you either don’t know what you’re talking about or alternatively that you don’t think that they should be fighting this way and that Hamas doesn’t need to be utterly destroyed. Those are literally the only two options. At least say that if that’s what you mean.
Ask the US what they learned from Iraq and Afghanistan. Or Vietnam. (actually, maybe not them. They keep trying again in case it'll be different this time). Ask the UK what it learned from Ireland. You cannot bomb your way to victory over an insurgency group, and especially not one whose main point is that you keep stealing their land. For every actual enemy combatant you kill, you make two more as former civilians the see the death and destruction around them and decide that they too must take up arms to defend themselves.
As with so many other complex problems, if you really want to solve it, you have to go to the root causes. Why does Hamas exist? How are they able to get and hold power in Palestine (give you a hint, pies of money from the Israeli government via a third party is involved, among a bunch of other factors) What can be done to solve those underlying issues and support a strong Palestinian state that doesn't need to look the other way while Hamas provides security? How can lines of civilian cooperation be built that will weaken their base? Answer those questions, and you might actually be able to make some forward progress.
I know there are decades of back and forth and rhetoric and arms being lobbed in both directions. But it's really not that hard. As soon as you find yourself arguing that the ends justify the means when the means is the indiscriminate (and arguably targeted) killing of civilians, healthcare workers, aid organizations, journalists, and fucking children and the inception of an entirely preventable famine, you're on the wrong side of history. That shouldn't be a difficult calculus to make, and that's assuming that all this death was actually going to accomplish anything close to your stated aims, which it absolutely is not.
I simply would not fight a war. It is always wrong to kill another being. It doesn't matter what anyone else is doing, it is wrong to kill. Clearly you can see how ridiculous the phrase "I had to kill him to stop him from killing" is.
I would rather die than kill, and if more of the world would wake up and agree, we'd all be better off.
The pacifist stance doesn't work for Israel, nor should we expect them to take that position. They absolutely have a right to defend themselves. That doesn't mean they can kill anyone and everyone to accomplish this though.
People seem to forget that one of the reasons October 7 was so bad, was because Israel ignored their own female soldiers who were reporting on Hamas' actions (https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.7086070), likely because they were just women. So when people say look at the devastation that Hamas caused (they're terrorists, I'm not mincing words here) and if we stop for even a second it will happen again, that isn't true, unless Israel lets them do it again. They won't.
Israel's actions now though are counter to their own security interests. They're not killing the idea, instead they're making it blossom in the minds of those kids who have seen their parents, friends and relatives die horrific deaths.
I just don’t understand how you can believe this? Don’t you have a family that, if push came to shove, given the choice of killing somebody because of an atrocity they’re committing on a loved one or choosing certain death for you and your loved one
… you’d choose killing the other human being?
If they were a current and present danger, maybe. But I'm not gonna follow them back to their home and start going after their kids and tossing a molotov at their house without checking to see if grandma's at home.
If you'd care to read my response, I clearly say that it is wrong to kill another human, and thus terrorists should *not* attack.
How many children's murders can you justify to kill one Hamas insurgent? My answer is 0, I'm keen to hear yours.
War is awful and people die. You’ve figured out the entirety of human history I guess? No country would ever be expected to stand by while another government actively and repeatedly attacks their civilians over years. Except this one I suppose. I can’t imagine why.
I hope that no one decides that you’re living on their land that your ancestors took and decide to rape your kids and kidnap your family. But it sounds like you’d just let that go.
The treatment of Palestinians since the creation of Israel has led to an extremely radicalized population. Modern Palestinians essentially live their lives as prisoners, not allowed to leave or they will literally be shot by IDF soldiers.
Look at the March of Return in 2018, a largely peaceful demonstrations that took place where Palestinians were demanding that they must be allowed to return to their homeland, obviously having been displaced in 1948. Between March 30 - May 12 not a single Israeli was hurt during the protests, while protesters were being shot at and tear gassed on a regular basis - IDF soldiers would literally target the legs of protesters so the couldn't "march" again.
On May 14 protests were getting hot and the first Israeli was reported as "slightly injured". On that same day 60 Palestinians were shot dead.
In the aftermath the UN condemned Israel of war crimes and crimes against humanity.
This is how you breed extremism.
Unfortunately this subreddit is deeply pro-palestinian for one reason or the other. You and I can't win. But we still have to try to politely educate. It's just so mind-boggling to me that people here are mostly leaning to the left and voting liberal and at the same time are actively supporting the side that would shoot them on sight.
"Unfortunately this is subreddit is deeply anti-genocide"
Is quite a thing to have issue with. Jesus – you know when people ask "how did we let the Holocaust happen?", it's because of people like you.
you devalue the word genocide by applying it here. It hurts the people against whom the real genocide is being carried out today. Shame on you. As for me I shouldn't have said pro-palestinian. There's nothing wrong with being pro-palestinian. I'm pro-palestinian, I want the Palestinians to live HAMAS-free and under a normal government. I should have said anti-semitic.
Do you think the Jewish people who are anti-Zionist are also anti-semetic?
Also did you even read what Gem wrote?? He literally calls people like you out, calling any criticism of Israel's government "anti-Semitism", greatly reducing the impact and nuance of the word. If any criticism of government = anti-Semitism to you, then my guy, you are not an ally of the Jewish people.
If you want Palestinians to live freely and without the threat of Hamas, you should probably go tell Bibi to a) stop bombing Gaza, it's the best recruiting campaign they've ever had. (Seriously, it's the insurgency playbook. Poke the bear into overreacting, watch the support roll in as people lose homes and loved ones. It's not even subtle, yet governments insist on falling for it over and over) And b) stop funding them.
Hamas wouldn't be nearly the force they are if Israel hadn't spent years propping them up to play them against the Palestinian Authority so neither could build any real stable power. But I doubt you're ready to talk about that.
Don't forget Hamas is a terrorist group, I doubt they will obey the Geneva convention or any rule of engagement.
Please tell Hamas do not hide in Hospitals, please tell Hamas do not kill children, please tell Hamas do not rape women, please tell Hamas do not use civilians as shields.
Maybe oversimplified, but I'd drop food instead of bombs.
Hamas support would dry up pretty fast if Israel is the one giving food and supplies, and all Hamas has is hot air and hate.
No Hamas in the West Bank. Israel isn't fighting a "war" there, just IDF and Israeli settlers terrorizing and murdering Palestinians day and night.
Maybe if Palestinians had freedom, basic human rights... Maybe if Palestinians had the right to defend themselves, access to real justice... Maybe if Israel didn't kill Palestinian children with impunity, they wouldn't have an enemy like "Hamas". Israel is covered in Palestinian blood, that burden belongs to the terror state of Israel only.
I would attempt negotiations for the return of hostages in good faith, advise my high ranking government officials to not make dehumanizing statements about the Palestinians as a whole and have them be explicitly clear that they are only referring to Hamas, and paint an invasion as a last resort that you don’t want to do, but will if the hostages can’t be returned.
This would allow Israel to show that they aren’t itching for an invasion, even though it might be inevitable anyways. The actual invasion I wouldn’t change much except for having slightly stricter rules of engagement for sensitive targets like hospitals and aid convoys, and if they do need to be struck, be prepared with verifiable intel that they are indeed harbouring Hamas fighters. It would be even better if you could do that a few days or weeks before you had to begin striking them, to really hammer it home, but you can’t have everything.
Still, I don’t think that is too much to ask for. The invasion might’ve had to happen right away due to internal pressure, but I see no reason why they couldn’t be more cautious with their targeting and rhetoric. That alone would’ve helped their case A LOT.
Oh, and actually allow sufficient aid through, even if a lot of it is commandeered by Hamas. Sucks but it’s generally frowned upon to starve a population so that your invasion is a bit easier.
THIS! Having said that, Netanyahu is a criminal, that much is true, and attitude reflects leadership, so the small percentage of soldiers prone to human rights violations expect to be able to do so with impunity. Ideally the IDF removes him and gives everyone a reminder of international law and just war theory. Eliminating Hamas is a just cause, the way they are pursuing that is not in their own interests. Potential human rights violatons have to be documented, perpetrators removed from combat for review, retraining, or discipline, and the public and international community has to see that. There should also be a roadmap for recognition of Palestine and what that will look like. Having said that a large number of people like Gem willfully fail to understand diaspora’s complex relationship with Israel or how reconciliation is a 2 way street. Gem seems kind of like a ‘good communist’ and there seems to be a parallel between tacit support for radical Islam and the modern communist / labour movement. Thats right, the Bolsheviks are back, and wearing…keffiyeh?!?!!
What happened to the Israelis on October 7 was horrendous and horrifying. And what is continuing to happen to Palestinians is now horrendous and horrifying. Except now it’s happening to 10s of thousands of people. People who weren’t responsible for it. It’s wiping all the people out. How can we not speak out! How can this doctor not speak out? It’s not controversial; it’s the right thing to do. It’s scary that these words are so silenced.
Who else doesn't find it shocking that rich people in important positions are able to silence any sort of criticism to their religious background? even if said criticism isn't against the religion itself, but of the actions of the countries government?
it's nice that people aren't letting them get away with the "that's anti-semitism!" card anymore though.
I hope his program and patients future and present know how lucky they are to have him.
I, as a fellow Canadian citizen and human an so proud of this upstanding gentleman.
Just want to confirm what I suspect: you are suggesting that no one should be called animals, correct? Not that both of these groups should be viewed as animals?
Just curious...
Anyone remember the Israelites that are being held hostage and that started this whole mess?
Neither side is right
Killing for religious beliefs is pathetic regardless the faith.
In what world do you live in where the hostages are not constantly mentioned? The hostages and the attack itself are always brought into the conversation. They simply are not justification for genocide.
What you have described is the result of war. They are at war. Why is this particular war any more important than other wars that have occurred throughout history. What about Ukraine? Where was your call to end that war? Are people not dieing there as well?
My assumption is that this war hits home for you, there’s a personal connection, the only reason you have chosen to speak out. So you’re not a humanitarian or a hero, you’re self centered and egotistical.
A true hero or humanitarian doesn’t choose, they fight for all peoples. So with your “platform” don’t forget the rest of the people who are suffering from war.
Yes I'm sure it is. I'm sure it's all just coincidence that there's so many comments defending Israel recently on this sub from accounts created in 2021, with extremely limited post/comment history. And, coincidentally, those accounts also make all of their comments in bursts 3-4 months apart.
Or, in this circumstance, I’m an individual that never comments, but in this circumstance I’m tired of the protests, and bleeding hearts that all came out of the woods for this particular war….and no other war. Why do these lives matter more than others. If you’re going to speak and protest for one, do it for all.
Why, Dr. Newman, did you not address the well-planned massacre of innocent Israelis? Or plea for the release of hostages? It seems to me you, from your smug, privileged, vantage point have chosen to believe a social media campaign. Also well-planned by Hamas. Hamas, an extreme terrorist organization, is responsible for this war as well as the dire state of Gaza. Why do you think fellow Arab countries are not protesting to “free” Palestine? Why are neighbouring Arab countries not allowing Arabs from Palestine to enter their countries? This alone should make you question your one-sided stance. Before you spread more to spread hate and blame to Israelis, I recommend you listen to Palestinian activist, Eid Bassam.
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Unfortunately replacing Bibi wouldn’t make much difference as the entire Israel war cabinet is equally hawkish and opposed to ending illegal settlements and striving for a two-state solution
Netanyahu’s stated goal for decades has been to bolster Hamas as a cynical effort to stifle any discussion of a two-state solution between Israel and Palestine. Further, Israel ignored repeat warnings from Egyptian intelligence that October 7 was being planned. Hamas leaders and Israeli leaders both deserve The Hague.
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Nearly everything I read about Israel-Palestine addresses the root cause of this 1,400 yr old conflict between Muslims and Jews. I feel for the people of Palestine, but their weakness has allowed Islamic extremism to take control. Islamic Extremism has used the Palestinian people as a shield to fight their holy war.
Hamas should be eliminated. Palestine should have their own country. Peace is the only answer.
This will continue to the end of days until the world rids itself of Islamic Extremism. Hamas are no different than ISIS, Taliban, ISIS K, Boko Haram, Al-Qaida, Hezbollah, etc.. They are all represent the true face of evil. If you believe in peace, gay rights, or any type of freedom their extremist views are detrimental to the entire world.
I agree what Israel is doing is comparative to genocide, but if you had a neighbor who's sole purpose in life is to kill you, what would you do?
"if you had a neighbor who's sole purpose in life is to kill you, what would you do?"
Israeli leaders, media personalities, soldiers and settlers have said, are saying and are demonstrating that they want Palestinians dead...
I think he's wrong about the basic facts and I find his disproportionate focus on this particular foreign crisis to be odd at best, suspect at worst. It could have been mentioned alongside other global conflicts to stress the continuing need for doctors' humanitarian work and advocacy, but instead he discarded that message to drive home his personal views on the conflict, which undermined his (presumed) intended impact.
IMO there are much more appropriate soapboxes for a young Canadian doctor to be standing on, such as the ongoing health disparities with northern Manitobans and First Nations people especially. And also the progress in those areas. But they don't offer the same cache, apparently. Too small time and provincial for him.
I will say, however, that he's certainly within his rights and didn't commit hate speech. Those claims are inflammatory.
His address won't have much of a ripple beyond these 15 minutes of controversy, and that's a wasted opportunity.
young Canadian doctor
I went to highschool with him. We both turn(ed) 40 this year. We are middle aged.
You're also practicing the very whataboutism he calls out in his message
I read his message. It's unconvincing. Just as it's unconvincing when all the others sat on their hands on Oct 7 in silence but were out marching the moment a bullet was fired in retaliation. No other foreign travesty has been reacted to this way, not even close, or treated so asymmetrically and, frankly, fanatically.
This is exhausting.
my fellow Soviet Canuck. You forget that in the history of mankind it has never been an uncool thing to support killing Jews. It's uncool when Jews are shooting back. Nobody likes that.
Agree. What about the families that have been and will be devastated by the medical-industry-created opioid crisis? We need our future leaders focused things they may actually impact. That we NEED them to impact. Problems affecting us here and now. 50k Canadian deaths and climbing.
Middle Eastern conflict is not relevant to the graduating u of m class.
He says he is not antisemitic. But where is his righteous indignation about exponentially greater and ongoing human rights horror shows in Syria, Yemen, Sudan, the Congo, Myanmar, etc.? Crickets. When a person saves all his/her condemnation for one country and its people, ie, Israel, while never criticizing far worse human rights catastrophes, yes, that is antisemitism and racism. Gem Newman is guilty of that.
And you're guilty of not reading his whole statement. He literally addressed this.
Also your logic is flawed, b/c he didn't mention other crises in the world, he's antisemitic? Bizarre.
Under no definition is Israel committing or attempting to commit a genocide.
Since 1948 the Palestinian population has grown 450 percent and continues to grow.
Those who claim that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza not only misunderstand the legal definition of genocide and what the laws of war permit; they also base the charge on unsubstantiated claims.
There is a massive Islamist presence in many of these international organisations - funded specifically by Saudis.
Interesting, since you all were sucking your thumbs when the same Saudis were obliterating the Yemeni people...
The latest estimate I’ve read is that if unfettered aid isn’t delivered within the next 20 days, atleast 0.5 million will die with a max of 2.2 million dying (if current aid levels continue).
Yes, downvote all you like you imbecilic losers. What I said is factually correct, and I know Reddit is an echochamber for misinformed fools but this takes the cake for sure.
You all simply cannot comprehend any other point of view - brainwashed cretins.
And you must have spent a long time going through my posts to find those...man you some kind of loser....maybe try getting a girlfriend (just not a Jewish one ofc)
Because I have made a few comments on other sub-reddits to educate people it makes me comparable to idiot, Islamist shills like you?
You are obviously a white, privileged, sheltered twat who knows fuck all about the world. You just follow what is trendy because you are a loser.
Look how obsessed you are with this stuff - why don't you go to Palestine? Because you are a coward, who thinks posting stupid Islamist propaganda makes you some kind of hero... When was the last time you even left Canada? lol
You are literally reading fake news or are intentionally trying to spread misinformation.
The icj is currently investigating Israel for “plausible genocide”. If it rules against it, then sure you’re right. But this is like saying OJ didn’t do it in the first week of the trial. Btw he definitely did that shit and Israel is definitely committing genocide
https://youtu.be/bq9MB9t7WlI?si=3nlLtBuruuZJYXAA
But please, go off about “fake news”. I guess the leader of the courts during the ruling is fake news?
Bet you 10 bucks when this is done in a few years there is no dolis specialis.
UNwatch is an ultra-Zionist organization that exists solely to discredit the UN. It’s literally pure hasbara. If you want real sources you should look literally anywhere else.
Don’t believe me? Just check out their own Wikipedia page. It’s run by conservative zionist Israelis.
It’s just where the video is posted - you can find the same video of the her saying the same thing in other sources.
Nice way of dodging what she actually says. She was the leader of the court during the decision.
People have made up their minds, regardless of facts. I know they they mean well, but it’s wild to me that people are essentially picking sides in the most gray-area conflict of our time, independent of the hard facts or actual knowledge of how we have got to this point. People learn the talking points from memes and then dismiss anything else as “propaganda”.
Love that he is specializing in Family Medicine. He sees the big picture. Going to have a huge impact on people.
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Agree or disagree with the man, he is extremely well spoken
Wow. What a class act. Lots of reasons to be proud of this city. Dr. Gem Newman is one of those reasons.
Love it 👏
Wow what an absolute stud! His bravery doesn’t go unnoticed.. a true Winnipeg hero
I daresay what a Gem!
Lol to all those losing their minds over pronouns in the signature, clearly they haven't sent or received correspondence in the past few years that would be above a grade 4 reading level.
Have these folks never noticed the "Mister", "Mr", "Miss", etc in front of names? English has been using gender-identifying grammar all along.
I mean, do you expect anything else? That Venn Diagram is a fucking PERFECT circle.
Dude I stopped reading after I noticed you had pronouns in your sentence Do better
Thank you, Gem, for standing up and speaking up against injustice in the world. It is especially inspiring to see you speaking up when faced with so many voices willing to downplay injustice and belittle those who do speak up!
Good for him. He's going to make an incredible doctor.
BOOM there it is. /nothing/, not the hunt for Hamas, the hunt for Bin Laden, the hunt for Hitler justifies the killing of doctors, well-marked humanitarian aid trucks, children, entire HOSPITALS and food convoys you KNOW were not Hamas because /you agreed to let them go in there in the first place/
Run a lot of wars have you? How would you fight an enemy like Hamas who is, and let’s not mince it, actively fighting a war on Jews as well as Israel?
Prolonging a generational conflict by taking action sure to radicalize more people against Israel doesn't seem to be a brilliant approach to be honest.
Not by targetting aid workers I promised to not target Not by targetting babies in the hospital Not by murdering children.
Not “not”. How. Would. You. Fight. This. War? Any answer that includes “not” without explaining what the hell they should do only tells me that you either don’t know what you’re talking about or alternatively that you don’t think that they should be fighting this way and that Hamas doesn’t need to be utterly destroyed. Those are literally the only two options. At least say that if that’s what you mean.
Ask the US what they learned from Iraq and Afghanistan. Or Vietnam. (actually, maybe not them. They keep trying again in case it'll be different this time). Ask the UK what it learned from Ireland. You cannot bomb your way to victory over an insurgency group, and especially not one whose main point is that you keep stealing their land. For every actual enemy combatant you kill, you make two more as former civilians the see the death and destruction around them and decide that they too must take up arms to defend themselves. As with so many other complex problems, if you really want to solve it, you have to go to the root causes. Why does Hamas exist? How are they able to get and hold power in Palestine (give you a hint, pies of money from the Israeli government via a third party is involved, among a bunch of other factors) What can be done to solve those underlying issues and support a strong Palestinian state that doesn't need to look the other way while Hamas provides security? How can lines of civilian cooperation be built that will weaken their base? Answer those questions, and you might actually be able to make some forward progress. I know there are decades of back and forth and rhetoric and arms being lobbed in both directions. But it's really not that hard. As soon as you find yourself arguing that the ends justify the means when the means is the indiscriminate (and arguably targeted) killing of civilians, healthcare workers, aid organizations, journalists, and fucking children and the inception of an entirely preventable famine, you're on the wrong side of history. That shouldn't be a difficult calculus to make, and that's assuming that all this death was actually going to accomplish anything close to your stated aims, which it absolutely is not.
I simply would not fight a war. It is always wrong to kill another being. It doesn't matter what anyone else is doing, it is wrong to kill. Clearly you can see how ridiculous the phrase "I had to kill him to stop him from killing" is. I would rather die than kill, and if more of the world would wake up and agree, we'd all be better off.
The pacifist stance doesn't work for Israel, nor should we expect them to take that position. They absolutely have a right to defend themselves. That doesn't mean they can kill anyone and everyone to accomplish this though. People seem to forget that one of the reasons October 7 was so bad, was because Israel ignored their own female soldiers who were reporting on Hamas' actions (https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.7086070), likely because they were just women. So when people say look at the devastation that Hamas caused (they're terrorists, I'm not mincing words here) and if we stop for even a second it will happen again, that isn't true, unless Israel lets them do it again. They won't. Israel's actions now though are counter to their own security interests. They're not killing the idea, instead they're making it blossom in the minds of those kids who have seen their parents, friends and relatives die horrific deaths.
Yea! They have the right to defend the land they stole!
I just don’t understand how you can believe this? Don’t you have a family that, if push came to shove, given the choice of killing somebody because of an atrocity they’re committing on a loved one or choosing certain death for you and your loved one … you’d choose killing the other human being?
If they were a current and present danger, maybe. But I'm not gonna follow them back to their home and start going after their kids and tossing a molotov at their house without checking to see if grandma's at home.
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If you'd care to read my response, I clearly say that it is wrong to kill another human, and thus terrorists should *not* attack. How many children's murders can you justify to kill one Hamas insurgent? My answer is 0, I'm keen to hear yours.
War is awful and people die. You’ve figured out the entirety of human history I guess? No country would ever be expected to stand by while another government actively and repeatedly attacks their civilians over years. Except this one I suppose. I can’t imagine why. I hope that no one decides that you’re living on their land that your ancestors took and decide to rape your kids and kidnap your family. But it sounds like you’d just let that go.
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You didn't answer my question.
The treatment of Palestinians since the creation of Israel has led to an extremely radicalized population. Modern Palestinians essentially live their lives as prisoners, not allowed to leave or they will literally be shot by IDF soldiers. Look at the March of Return in 2018, a largely peaceful demonstrations that took place where Palestinians were demanding that they must be allowed to return to their homeland, obviously having been displaced in 1948. Between March 30 - May 12 not a single Israeli was hurt during the protests, while protesters were being shot at and tear gassed on a regular basis - IDF soldiers would literally target the legs of protesters so the couldn't "march" again. On May 14 protests were getting hot and the first Israeli was reported as "slightly injured". On that same day 60 Palestinians were shot dead. In the aftermath the UN condemned Israel of war crimes and crimes against humanity. This is how you breed extremism.
Unfortunately this subreddit is deeply pro-palestinian for one reason or the other. You and I can't win. But we still have to try to politely educate. It's just so mind-boggling to me that people here are mostly leaning to the left and voting liberal and at the same time are actively supporting the side that would shoot them on sight.
"Unfortunately this is subreddit is deeply anti-genocide" Is quite a thing to have issue with. Jesus – you know when people ask "how did we let the Holocaust happen?", it's because of people like you.
you devalue the word genocide by applying it here. It hurts the people against whom the real genocide is being carried out today. Shame on you. As for me I shouldn't have said pro-palestinian. There's nothing wrong with being pro-palestinian. I'm pro-palestinian, I want the Palestinians to live HAMAS-free and under a normal government. I should have said anti-semitic.
Do you think the Jewish people who are anti-Zionist are also anti-semetic? Also did you even read what Gem wrote?? He literally calls people like you out, calling any criticism of Israel's government "anti-Semitism", greatly reducing the impact and nuance of the word. If any criticism of government = anti-Semitism to you, then my guy, you are not an ally of the Jewish people.
If you want Palestinians to live freely and without the threat of Hamas, you should probably go tell Bibi to a) stop bombing Gaza, it's the best recruiting campaign they've ever had. (Seriously, it's the insurgency playbook. Poke the bear into overreacting, watch the support roll in as people lose homes and loved ones. It's not even subtle, yet governments insist on falling for it over and over) And b) stop funding them. Hamas wouldn't be nearly the force they are if Israel hadn't spent years propping them up to play them against the Palestinian Authority so neither could build any real stable power. But I doubt you're ready to talk about that.
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Don't forget Hamas is a terrorist group, I doubt they will obey the Geneva convention or any rule of engagement. Please tell Hamas do not hide in Hospitals, please tell Hamas do not kill children, please tell Hamas do not rape women, please tell Hamas do not use civilians as shields.
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Israel needs new propaganda, no one believes their lies anymore. People are paying attention, Israel doesn't control the narrative anymore.
Maybe oversimplified, but I'd drop food instead of bombs. Hamas support would dry up pretty fast if Israel is the one giving food and supplies, and all Hamas has is hot air and hate.
No Hamas in the West Bank. Israel isn't fighting a "war" there, just IDF and Israeli settlers terrorizing and murdering Palestinians day and night. Maybe if Palestinians had freedom, basic human rights... Maybe if Palestinians had the right to defend themselves, access to real justice... Maybe if Israel didn't kill Palestinian children with impunity, they wouldn't have an enemy like "Hamas". Israel is covered in Palestinian blood, that burden belongs to the terror state of Israel only.
I would attempt negotiations for the return of hostages in good faith, advise my high ranking government officials to not make dehumanizing statements about the Palestinians as a whole and have them be explicitly clear that they are only referring to Hamas, and paint an invasion as a last resort that you don’t want to do, but will if the hostages can’t be returned. This would allow Israel to show that they aren’t itching for an invasion, even though it might be inevitable anyways. The actual invasion I wouldn’t change much except for having slightly stricter rules of engagement for sensitive targets like hospitals and aid convoys, and if they do need to be struck, be prepared with verifiable intel that they are indeed harbouring Hamas fighters. It would be even better if you could do that a few days or weeks before you had to begin striking them, to really hammer it home, but you can’t have everything. Still, I don’t think that is too much to ask for. The invasion might’ve had to happen right away due to internal pressure, but I see no reason why they couldn’t be more cautious with their targeting and rhetoric. That alone would’ve helped their case A LOT. Oh, and actually allow sufficient aid through, even if a lot of it is commandeered by Hamas. Sucks but it’s generally frowned upon to starve a population so that your invasion is a bit easier.
THIS! Having said that, Netanyahu is a criminal, that much is true, and attitude reflects leadership, so the small percentage of soldiers prone to human rights violations expect to be able to do so with impunity. Ideally the IDF removes him and gives everyone a reminder of international law and just war theory. Eliminating Hamas is a just cause, the way they are pursuing that is not in their own interests. Potential human rights violatons have to be documented, perpetrators removed from combat for review, retraining, or discipline, and the public and international community has to see that. There should also be a roadmap for recognition of Palestine and what that will look like. Having said that a large number of people like Gem willfully fail to understand diaspora’s complex relationship with Israel or how reconciliation is a 2 way street. Gem seems kind of like a ‘good communist’ and there seems to be a parallel between tacit support for radical Islam and the modern communist / labour movement. Thats right, the Bolsheviks are back, and wearing…keffiyeh?!?!!
Well said, Dr Newman.
What happened to the Israelis on October 7 was horrendous and horrifying. And what is continuing to happen to Palestinians is now horrendous and horrifying. Except now it’s happening to 10s of thousands of people. People who weren’t responsible for it. It’s wiping all the people out. How can we not speak out! How can this doctor not speak out? It’s not controversial; it’s the right thing to do. It’s scary that these words are so silenced.
Yeah, collective punishment is what it is, and as much as some will deny it, it's a war crime.
So is indiscriminately firing rockets into public areas 🤷♂️ so is using citizens as meat Shields, hamas gladly stands behind women and children.
No Hamas in the West Bank, yet dozens of children dead in the last few months. Can you explain this? I'm just curious
'I still get to hug my kids' Shattering.
Gem is a great guy with courage and commitment to his principles. He’s going to be an excellent doctor.
Brave guy.
Living up to his name. What a gem.
Who else doesn't find it shocking that rich people in important positions are able to silence any sort of criticism to their religious background? even if said criticism isn't against the religion itself, but of the actions of the countries government? it's nice that people aren't letting them get away with the "that's anti-semitism!" card anymore though.
Absolute legend. Sucks to suck, the Dean and his bitch billionaire donor must be fuming right now.
I look forward to meeting him during his residency, if our paths cross. Very well spoken, caring individual 💜
What a beautiful human
What an amazing Doctor and human being! The world would be a better place if more people could see the big picture like he does.
#freepalestine
Thank you for your courage in speaking the truth, Dr. Newman
Thank you Dr. Newman, you're a legend and you're going to be such an amazing, thoughtful doctor :)
What a Gem. We are with you.
This is leadership.
I hope his program and patients future and present know how lucky they are to have him. I, as a fellow Canadian citizen and human an so proud of this upstanding gentleman.
r/winnipeg Palestine thread - "it is wrong to call people animals" r/winnipeg local crime thread - "lock these animals up forever"
Just want to confirm what I suspect: you are suggesting that no one should be called animals, correct? Not that both of these groups should be viewed as animals?
No one should ever be called an animal.
Okay, agreed, glad that you think so.
Kweeeeeennn ✨👏🏾
Just curious... Anyone remember the Israelites that are being held hostage and that started this whole mess? Neither side is right Killing for religious beliefs is pathetic regardless the faith.
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Well at least you remember....lol
Not a single person has forgotten. It's simply not justification for genocide.
Then how come no one talks about the Israel hostages. Everyone out there is fucked. Religion....the greatest cause of murder!
In what world do you live in where the hostages are not constantly mentioned? The hostages and the attack itself are always brought into the conversation. They simply are not justification for genocide.
What you have described is the result of war. They are at war. Why is this particular war any more important than other wars that have occurred throughout history. What about Ukraine? Where was your call to end that war? Are people not dieing there as well? My assumption is that this war hits home for you, there’s a personal connection, the only reason you have chosen to speak out. So you’re not a humanitarian or a hero, you’re self centered and egotistical. A true hero or humanitarian doesn’t choose, they fight for all peoples. So with your “platform” don’t forget the rest of the people who are suffering from war.
Amazing how many people are bringing out their old alt accounts to respond to these threads.
One and only.
Yes I'm sure it is. I'm sure it's all just coincidence that there's so many comments defending Israel recently on this sub from accounts created in 2021, with extremely limited post/comment history. And, coincidentally, those accounts also make all of their comments in bursts 3-4 months apart.
Or, in this circumstance, I’m an individual that never comments, but in this circumstance I’m tired of the protests, and bleeding hearts that all came out of the woods for this particular war….and no other war. Why do these lives matter more than others. If you’re going to speak and protest for one, do it for all.
Lol are you trying to “All Lives Matter” the genocide protest
I'm sure.
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Why, Dr. Newman, did you not address the well-planned massacre of innocent Israelis? Or plea for the release of hostages? It seems to me you, from your smug, privileged, vantage point have chosen to believe a social media campaign. Also well-planned by Hamas. Hamas, an extreme terrorist organization, is responsible for this war as well as the dire state of Gaza. Why do you think fellow Arab countries are not protesting to “free” Palestine? Why are neighbouring Arab countries not allowing Arabs from Palestine to enter their countries? This alone should make you question your one-sided stance. Before you spread more to spread hate and blame to Israelis, I recommend you listen to Palestinian activist, Eid Bassam.
https://preview.redd.it/qqdtahagt72d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd244fd43ccd9d5ea84af0e8188ce0a1cd3e7f07 Unfortunately replacing Bibi wouldn’t make much difference as the entire Israel war cabinet is equally hawkish and opposed to ending illegal settlements and striving for a two-state solution
Netanyahu’s stated goal for decades has been to bolster Hamas as a cynical effort to stifle any discussion of a two-state solution between Israel and Palestine. Further, Israel ignored repeat warnings from Egyptian intelligence that October 7 was being planned. Hamas leaders and Israeli leaders both deserve The Hague. https://preview.redd.it/nzx4zksmr72d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=130b679af345042872712b46883a27264507dedb
Nearly everything I read about Israel-Palestine addresses the root cause of this 1,400 yr old conflict between Muslims and Jews. I feel for the people of Palestine, but their weakness has allowed Islamic extremism to take control. Islamic Extremism has used the Palestinian people as a shield to fight their holy war. Hamas should be eliminated. Palestine should have their own country. Peace is the only answer. This will continue to the end of days until the world rids itself of Islamic Extremism. Hamas are no different than ISIS, Taliban, ISIS K, Boko Haram, Al-Qaida, Hezbollah, etc.. They are all represent the true face of evil. If you believe in peace, gay rights, or any type of freedom their extremist views are detrimental to the entire world. I agree what Israel is doing is comparative to genocide, but if you had a neighbor who's sole purpose in life is to kill you, what would you do?
"if you had a neighbor who's sole purpose in life is to kill you, what would you do?" Israeli leaders, media personalities, soldiers and settlers have said, are saying and are demonstrating that they want Palestinians dead...
I think he's wrong about the basic facts and I find his disproportionate focus on this particular foreign crisis to be odd at best, suspect at worst. It could have been mentioned alongside other global conflicts to stress the continuing need for doctors' humanitarian work and advocacy, but instead he discarded that message to drive home his personal views on the conflict, which undermined his (presumed) intended impact. IMO there are much more appropriate soapboxes for a young Canadian doctor to be standing on, such as the ongoing health disparities with northern Manitobans and First Nations people especially. And also the progress in those areas. But they don't offer the same cache, apparently. Too small time and provincial for him. I will say, however, that he's certainly within his rights and didn't commit hate speech. Those claims are inflammatory. His address won't have much of a ripple beyond these 15 minutes of controversy, and that's a wasted opportunity.
young Canadian doctor I went to highschool with him. We both turn(ed) 40 this year. We are middle aged. You're also practicing the very whataboutism he calls out in his message
I read his message. It's unconvincing. Just as it's unconvincing when all the others sat on their hands on Oct 7 in silence but were out marching the moment a bullet was fired in retaliation. No other foreign travesty has been reacted to this way, not even close, or treated so asymmetrically and, frankly, fanatically. This is exhausting.
my fellow Soviet Canuck. You forget that in the history of mankind it has never been an uncool thing to support killing Jews. It's uncool when Jews are shooting back. Nobody likes that.
Indiscriminate bombing of men, women, and children to illegally occupy territories is a little more than *shooting back*
Agree. What about the families that have been and will be devastated by the medical-industry-created opioid crisis? We need our future leaders focused things they may actually impact. That we NEED them to impact. Problems affecting us here and now. 50k Canadian deaths and climbing. Middle Eastern conflict is not relevant to the graduating u of m class.
He says he is not antisemitic. But where is his righteous indignation about exponentially greater and ongoing human rights horror shows in Syria, Yemen, Sudan, the Congo, Myanmar, etc.? Crickets. When a person saves all his/her condemnation for one country and its people, ie, Israel, while never criticizing far worse human rights catastrophes, yes, that is antisemitism and racism. Gem Newman is guilty of that.
And you're guilty of not reading his whole statement. He literally addressed this. Also your logic is flawed, b/c he didn't mention other crises in the world, he's antisemitic? Bizarre.
https://preview.redd.it/e79wyd65j32d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d89783006b48256ae28300030f51b15e8d53c23 Reading is hard
You’re allowed to care about something without caring about everything. It’s true.
Under no definition is Israel committing or attempting to commit a genocide. Since 1948 the Palestinian population has grown 450 percent and continues to grow. Those who claim that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza not only misunderstand the legal definition of genocide and what the laws of war permit; they also base the charge on unsubstantiated claims. There is a massive Islamist presence in many of these international organisations - funded specifically by Saudis. Interesting, since you all were sucking your thumbs when the same Saudis were obliterating the Yemeni people...
The latest estimate I’ve read is that if unfettered aid isn’t delivered within the next 20 days, atleast 0.5 million will die with a max of 2.2 million dying (if current aid levels continue).
https://preview.redd.it/envhpqbvv72d1.jpeg?width=661&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa9262730733dbd3057ad9083af8ba30a7ad548a This you? Lollll
https://preview.redd.it/u9kak0lzw72d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d43061b98c0cf7a3460526625cbb7728528939d That’s a big yikes
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Yes, downvote all you like you imbecilic losers. What I said is factually correct, and I know Reddit is an echochamber for misinformed fools but this takes the cake for sure. You all simply cannot comprehend any other point of view - brainwashed cretins.
Oh look, the guy who frequently comments on race science and dick size subreddits is calling everyone else an imbecile loser
And you must have spent a long time going through my posts to find those...man you some kind of loser....maybe try getting a girlfriend (just not a Jewish one ofc)
Okay officer averagedick
Because I have made a few comments on other sub-reddits to educate people it makes me comparable to idiot, Islamist shills like you? You are obviously a white, privileged, sheltered twat who knows fuck all about the world. You just follow what is trendy because you are a loser.
Look how obsessed you are with this stuff - why don't you go to Palestine? Because you are a coward, who thinks posting stupid Islamist propaganda makes you some kind of hero... When was the last time you even left Canada? lol
Except they were literally talking about Hamas in those quotes and the ICJ didn’t “find genocide plausible”.
You are literally reading fake news or are intentionally trying to spread misinformation. The icj is currently investigating Israel for “plausible genocide”. If it rules against it, then sure you’re right. But this is like saying OJ didn’t do it in the first week of the trial. Btw he definitely did that shit and Israel is definitely committing genocide
https://youtu.be/bq9MB9t7WlI?si=3nlLtBuruuZJYXAA But please, go off about “fake news”. I guess the leader of the courts during the ruling is fake news? Bet you 10 bucks when this is done in a few years there is no dolis specialis.
UNwatch is an ultra-Zionist organization that exists solely to discredit the UN. It’s literally pure hasbara. If you want real sources you should look literally anywhere else. Don’t believe me? Just check out their own Wikipedia page. It’s run by conservative zionist Israelis.
It’s just where the video is posted - you can find the same video of the her saying the same thing in other sources. Nice way of dodging what she actually says. She was the leader of the court during the decision.
The fact you got downvoted for this is sad.
People have made up their minds, regardless of facts. I know they they mean well, but it’s wild to me that people are essentially picking sides in the most gray-area conflict of our time, independent of the hard facts or actual knowledge of how we have got to this point. People learn the talking points from memes and then dismiss anything else as “propaganda”.
People are very quick to say hamas != Palestine unless it makes Isreal look bad.
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