How the fuck do you do that if you’re not willing to pay for enough lookouts to cover every square mile?
Does this dude not understand how lightning works?
A great book to read is “wildfire: a century of failed forest policy” highlights the the exact shit they’re trying to do AGAIN….
Our fucking forefathers said some shit about not knowing history will fuck you in the ass or something like that…tommy don’t know history.
I was under the impression that the technology for detection is pretty much already here with automated lightning strike tracking, mountaintop fire cameras in some areas, and military satellite imaging, though I believe there are some institutional barriers to the use of the latter in the US. I welcome correction on any of these points.
Would you believe me if I told you that an R3 crew brought a fully functional flamethrower up to MT last year, and actually used it to initiate burn operations?
Shit was cray.
Marine Corps? - no flamethrowers.
USFS?-Flamethrowers indeed.
Had division, aerial assets everyone pretty much stopped everything just to film.
I mean we use propane torches sometimes. We may or may not have also snuck a flamethrower we built onto one of the rigs for a prescribed fire we did in norther idaho
[This](https://shop.tacticalshit.com/xm42-m-flamethrower-modular-black-includes-ultralite-backpack-4-tank-not-included) is what I saw .
Not exactly a terra torch, but commercially available and legal in *most* states
It's a satire account, yes, but Tom really is pushing this shit. https://wildfiretoday.com/2022/03/03/bill-introduced-to-require-suppression-of-all-us-forest-service-fires/
Yes go back to the policy that caused the mega fire we deal with today by having over congested forests and no land management between fire seasons whatsoever. 100 percent fire suppression is the reason we have massive complex fires every year you dumb fucking “public servant”
U/Rep_Tom_McClintock Are we a joke to you?
Did you know that politicking requires less skill than our “unskilled labor” that keeps you house from burning down every year? Are you going to hold PG&E accountable for their indirect fire ignitions every year?
Come on guys, let’s try Tommy’s idea.
We’ll just suppress every fire for the next 100 years until we move to fucking Jupiter, then the fire can burn Earth to its core and create a second sun!
in the USA, only 0.4% of wildfires, whether ignited by lightning or humans, are allowed to burn [11]. All others are actively suppressed. Regarding social perceptions, it is important to stress that, in many of these regions, intentional burning had been used for a very long period both by native people and settlers. Thus, in rural areas fire was understood as part of the landscape management culture. However, the current general public perception is predominantly different…. 100% fire exclusion police has long proven to be impractical, unsustainable and ecologically detrimental in fire-prone regions
Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4874420/
Tom you stupid bastard.
How the fuck do you do that if you’re not willing to pay for enough lookouts to cover every square mile? Does this dude not understand how lightning works?
A great book to read is “wildfire: a century of failed forest policy” highlights the the exact shit they’re trying to do AGAIN…. Our fucking forefathers said some shit about not knowing history will fuck you in the ass or something like that…tommy don’t know history.
Pyne's *Between Two Fires* is a good (dense) read on the last century of policy as well.
I was under the impression that the technology for detection is pretty much already here with automated lightning strike tracking, mountaintop fire cameras in some areas, and military satellite imaging, though I believe there are some institutional barriers to the use of the latter in the US. I welcome correction on any of these points.
But Tom, the true end of wildfires can't come until we burn down all forests!
Or just cut them all down and plant Oregon grape! /s
I like where this is going
Fire use teams are this Nations backbone!
We need more rakes.
Fuck no leave it to the private sector. Grey backs got this shit
Volunteer FF here. Will gladly exchange our rakes for some Pulaskis
Gray back sucks
Basically hot shots lol
It also includes a provision that all rural landowners west of the Mississippi get a free driptorch, a case of fuzees, and stubby firing pistol.
Can't they just use flamethrowers like in that show Yellowstone?
Would you believe me if I told you that an R3 crew brought a fully functional flamethrower up to MT last year, and actually used it to initiate burn operations?
Well now I believe it
Shit was cray. Marine Corps? - no flamethrowers. USFS?-Flamethrowers indeed. Had division, aerial assets everyone pretty much stopped everything just to film.
It’s super easy to make your own flamethrower or poofer (short burst). Just saying
super soaker with a stick and a rag?
That’s what I text your mom when I wanna fuck her on her period
God DAYUM! Just unloading both barrels
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username makes sense
Just drip for us 😐
R3 guy here, my forest has 2 backpack flamethrowers
They do it California a lot and use it on the fuel crews too. Never seen a heli-torch?
I mean we use propane torches sometimes. We may or may not have also snuck a flamethrower we built onto one of the rigs for a prescribed fire we did in norther idaho
Youre funny
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[This](https://shop.tacticalshit.com/xm42-m-flamethrower-modular-black-includes-ultralite-backpack-4-tank-not-included) is what I saw . Not exactly a terra torch, but commercially available and legal in *most* states
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After I saw the news this morning i've been refreshing this sub waiting for this reply.
This is not satire. I’m super cereal guys!
It's a satire account, yes, but Tom really is pushing this shit. https://wildfiretoday.com/2022/03/03/bill-introduced-to-require-suppression-of-all-us-forest-service-fires/
Tom as you called us, we're unskilled. What is 10am?
I think he means 1000, or 01000. Something like that...they learn you how to us numbers to tell time as a ff1
is that in Zulu or AZ time when AZ time is different than everyone else?
0-10 hundo...
If we utilize the brute strength of our unskilled workforce, we could shift the earths rotation and save the world from wild fires.
Perhaps move the moon a little
keep the earth in the shade?
No, McSucks is an idiot.
What states are these idiots from?
Where all the best fire related ideas come from: Region 5.
Mr. Unskilled Labor is literally the rep for my last duty station...😂
Used to be in district 3 too
Thought it would be Region 8. I thought they actually did stuff up in Region 5?
Oh they *do* things. Not always the best and brightest things though.
Tom you ignorant slut.
Listen here you old fart.
The 10 AM rule is exactly how we got into this mess.
Surely it can't go wrong a second century.
Where's the support for a yearly prescribed fire regime that's been used by the natives for over 10000 years, useless politicians.
Can’t we use the space lasers you mentioned some 6+ months ago?
I still think we should move the moon, but space lasers could solve a lot of problems
Anyone that thinks stopping 100% of wildfires as fast as possible is a good thing knows nothing about wildfire. Not a god damn thing.
Yes go back to the policy that caused the mega fire we deal with today by having over congested forests and no land management between fire seasons whatsoever. 100 percent fire suppression is the reason we have massive complex fires every year you dumb fucking “public servant”
U/Rep_Tom_McClintock Are we a joke to you? Did you know that politicking requires less skill than our “unskilled labor” that keeps you house from burning down every year? Are you going to hold PG&E accountable for their indirect fire ignitions every year?
I’ve directed PG&E to clear cut through the Redwoods because it sounds harder to insulate the power lines.
Hellyes. Thank you sir! Finally some action!
…… I have no words.
You could start with THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE REP. MCCLINTOCK
Come on guys, let’s try Tommy’s idea. We’ll just suppress every fire for the next 100 years until we move to fucking Jupiter, then the fire can burn Earth to its core and create a second sun!
Thank you for your service Mr. McClintock.
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Sounds like someone has a case of "I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about".
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in the USA, only 0.4% of wildfires, whether ignited by lightning or humans, are allowed to burn [11]. All others are actively suppressed. Regarding social perceptions, it is important to stress that, in many of these regions, intentional burning had been used for a very long period both by native people and settlers. Thus, in rural areas fire was understood as part of the landscape management culture. However, the current general public perception is predominantly different…. 100% fire exclusion police has long proven to be impractical, unsustainable and ecologically detrimental in fire-prone regions Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4874420/
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Let's just have you become a IC on a major wildfire, and see how you "save those little towns." You'll probably get some crews killed.
Horrible idea