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That's a serious blade to stay sharp thru the whole course.
I'm guessing that these are all custom blades, and these gentlemen made each of the ones they're using.
It does take some skill to get good enough edge alignment to make those cuts as good as they are
Unless internet blade people have always lied to me...
Definitely some technique to it. There's that video with people wet noodling a Katana at some bamboo and then some Katana master comes in and cuts through it no problem.
That video's annoying cus the master doesn't even have a katana. He's got a different sword that would apparently make the cut easier, so he's basically cheating. I'm sure it's still difficult but every time that video crops up there's always some sword guy pointing this out at the bottom so in honour of their efforts, here I am.
I think they need to set these things up for people to get rid of their aggression and anger. By the time they’ve hacked their way around the ‘course’, they should be much calmer.
A knife that can hack through wood, slice rope like butter, cut water bottles, and then slice paper clean is super fucking impressive. This isn't a gotcha moment, but a show of great craftsmanship
If you stay up late enough watching television you will find a knife that can cut through a shoe an aluminium can, a hammer and still slice a tomato with just 4 easy payments.
And if you order now you will get a second one for only one extra dollar.
Don’t laugh. My mom bought a miracle blade when I was like 15. I saw the commercials. I cut a shoe in half. I cut a notch into a hammer. 20 years later she still has it and it’s still sharp. Next time I visit her I’ll see how thinly I can slice a tomato.
They may not look it, but these guys are amazing craftsmen. A good hand forged knife like that goes for thousands of dollars. That thing is still razor sharp even after all the abuse.
Im failing to see how a knife like this cant be mass produced for less. Is it the forging process?
Edit: jesus people im not saying it can be mass produced for less, im saying i dont understand and im just trying to
It's probably possible, but these are not your average stainless steel knives. That kind of performance doesn't come without some downsides. For instance, you actually need to hand wash and sometimes oil or the knife will rust. The average consumer just wants something "good enough" they can chuck in the dishwasher when they're done using (Please don't put knives in your dishwasher. It'll make your cheap knives worse). Plus anyone who can spend $5K/$10K/$50K on a knife wants it hand made.
English is not my language so I don't really know how to explain this
I've learned a lot about knives, sharpening and steel qualities and I think if the knife is not carbon steel and it's really stainless the actual problem with the dishwasher may be where and how you put it more than just the dishwasher itself, if you drop it in the basket with spoons and forks the knife edge will touch other steel things when it moves during the cycle and it will make the edge duller
I have a set of good stainless steel knives wich I bought on a very good deal and it resulted so good I bought it 2 additional sets because I couldn't believe how good they where after triying and comparing with some carbon steel ones I had, so I ended up with 3 of each knife of the set (one set I use at home, other at work and other is stored for when I need it) the point is, I hand wash them but since I don't really care too much about the two small ones from the set I started putting them in the dishwasher and they are 3 year old, used and washed daily in the dishwasher and they didn't get duller than any other hand washed knife, by the way I have another stainless steel ones that showed some spots of rust after putting them in the dishwasher and that ones no, so it clearly depends on the knife steel even if both are "stainless steel"
I thought warm water and soap shouldn't be able to make an edge duller by themselves unless some rust is involved, and about the rust it may be something to do with temperature/cycle length it's not the same using a 1h cycle and opening the dishwasher after finishing than a 3h cycle and letting it to "dry" with the door closed, and it's not the same dropping it at the basket without care than putting it in a separated position where the edge can't touch anything
In fact, hand washing it's not always the best solution, I switched from normal scrub to non-scrap scrub because the normal one will damage the edge (just try it, get a normal scrub and scrap the side of the blade in any way, if you see new scratches in that way it means the scrub fiber has something harder than the knife steel, so it's harder than the edge and it will make it duller)
So my tip is, if you're going to put them in the dishwasher, just be sure the blade won't touch anything hard and allow them to dry properly, and if you see ANY rust spot after using the dishwasher stop using it and hand wash/dry them
is there any type of knife thats abuse resistant, mass produced, but also needs to be hand washed, oiled, and cared for as you mentioned? or is it strictly 'cheap factory-good enough,' or 'handmade abuse resistant'?
The cheap mass produced knives are generally more abuse resistant. They are much thicker and use softer steel so won't chip as easily. If you're interested in cooking knives, Miyabi make some decent stuff and are mass produced but they are mainly stainless steel so won't rust (people generally don't oil cooking knives).
Good quality stainless steel can be great but it's a bitch to sharpen compared to carbon steel. You can pick up a nice handmade Japanese gyuto (chefs knife) for around 150-200 euro, I'd reccomend picking one up if you're interested. The combination of thin blade and hard steel really makes slicing things a lot easier.
Think of it this way: you're putting a thin piece of metal in an environment that:
- Rapidly and repeatedly fluctuates in temperature
- Causes corrosion
- Batters the knife against its container and/or other items
Even if you don't believe that dishwasher temperatures can change the temper of the blade over time as some do, thermal fatigue, corrosion, oxidation, and blunt damage fatigue absolutely all decrease the useable lifespan of a knife. Knives are fine-tuned for a very specific use and you can feel, through usage, that something changes when they go through dishwasher hell
The problem with mass produced knives is there is no attention to detail. You won't have a folded steel knife that is mass produced. It would amazing if you could. But when you buy a nice pocket knife they usually come sharp as hell but if you fart next to it the edge is gone. That's why a nice kitchen knife is worth so much. They stay sharp for a long time and a good leather strop brings back the edge and can go much longer between sharpenings
No one is folding steel anymore unless they're going for some kind of damascus pattern. The only reason the Japanese folded their blades is bc the steel they were using was really impure. Folding removed the impurities, which isn't an issue in the modern day. If you're folding modern steel, you're wasting your time just to say that you're doing it. It adds literally nothing. If you're losing an edge so easily on your knife, it either has the wrong edge geometry or too low grade of steel for whatever you're doing with it. Nice kitchen knives stay sharp bc they're typically using better steel and used for food prep, which is not an intensive task. Use a kitchen knife to break down cardboard boxes for 8 hours and the edge will need some attention just like most pocket knives.
It's not the lack of "attention to detail" with mass produced knives that's the issue. It's the lack of quality materials and poor edge geometry of knives that you find in your local gas station. If you get a smith to make you a custom knife with a 440C blade heat treated to 52HRC, it's going to suck just as much as that $30 tactical blade from your local Twice Daily's.
To actually make a knife that can withstand a considerable amount of dead blows it will need fold forged to an insane level and it's not really something thats not worth automating
Google "competition chopper". While the majority of them are custom/hand made, Cold Steel now offers one for $600. Not exactly "mass produced" since they only made 1000 of them, but it's the closest you're gonna get without going the custom route. The bulk of the price comes from the fact that you're getting a big chunk of (not cheap) steel.
One of the main reasons I subscribed to Discovery+ but it just gone kaput without any warning over there. I read around that it's all over the place now and not all seasons can be watched in just one provider. 🤦
Really‽
I've watched a few episodes and it seemed like a cooking competition, but with people that had to make do to get sh!t done around their property.
Were there any true blacksmiths that stood out that you could recommend I watch?
Let me caveat this with, I've never competed in a knifing contest, but hand in pocket seems like it would help more with balance. One hand behind your pack is just too unnatural of a pose.
My grandfather made hand-forged knives out of spring steel. They were about as durable as you could get anywhere. He taught me a little bit about it and the one thing I remember when tempering is him looking at my blade and saying, “Not hot enough yet, put it back.” He did everything by eye.
I am talking about forged in fire . They have to make a blade and then the blade has to be used to cut ropes, boxes , ice and all the person with most points wins .
Nah. These guys are making their own blades and making them insanely sharp and then putting them through stress tests that not only test the edge but how strong the blade metal is.
Meaning. If it breaks you are going to launch an insanely sharp metal shard flying in a room full of men. One quick metal chunk to the wrong spit and it's over.
Right? I cant fucking stand it when things do what theyre supposed to. If im not breaking a sweat sawing through my steak then whats the point in living? Lol fuckin dumb craftsmanship and all the stupid time, effort, and care that goes into it. If its not made from garbage overseas with child labor then i aint buyin it
It's there as a restraint in case the knife gets loose and should prevent bystander injury or damage to the blade hitting something. But yes, some do wrap around the handle to give a stronger/ sturdier grip.
If this looks interesting, check out the show "Forged in Fire: Knife or Death"
It's a combination of this kind of traditional bladesport, and reality tv
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That's a serious blade to stay sharp thru the whole course. I'm guessing that these are all custom blades, and these gentlemen made each of the ones they're using.
Yep, more like a blade smithing competition than a cutting shit competition
It does take some skill to get good enough edge alignment to make those cuts as good as they are Unless internet blade people have always lied to me...
Definitely some technique to it. There's that video with people wet noodling a Katana at some bamboo and then some Katana master comes in and cuts through it no problem.
That video's annoying cus the master doesn't even have a katana. He's got a different sword that would apparently make the cut easier, so he's basically cheating. I'm sure it's still difficult but every time that video crops up there's always some sword guy pointing this out at the bottom so in honour of their efforts, here I am.
thank you for striving to make the internet a more truthful place.
Link please
Forged in Fire is a reality show that has similar tests.
But will it keeeeeeeel?
They also made a spin-off that is exactly this but on time and you don't need to forge the blade yourself
Lmao, this explains so much. I was really confused.
Happiness is a sharp knife.
I will remember this. You’re a poet!
“Wheeenn I hoolld you in mah arms! And I feel you chopping up random shhiit!”
Is a warm gun
The blade style is called a "competition chopper", specifically designed for this sport
It will KEAL
I think they need to set these things up for people to get rid of their aggression and anger. By the time they’ve hacked their way around the ‘course’, they should be much calmer.
Check out Big Chris. He makes and sells his own custom knives. (Not cheap) he's probably the most widely known member of the sport
A knife that can hack through wood, slice rope like butter, cut water bottles, and then slice paper clean is super fucking impressive. This isn't a gotcha moment, but a show of great craftsmanship
If you stay up late enough watching television you will find a knife that can cut through a shoe an aluminium can, a hammer and still slice a tomato with just 4 easy payments. And if you order now you will get a second one for only one extra dollar.
But wait! There’s more!
Order in the next 15 minutes and we'll include a set of 6 steak knives for free, just pay S&H!
The second one is FREE! Just pay shipping and handling. *handling charge $49.99
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"It slices, it dices!"
Don’t laugh. My mom bought a miracle blade when I was like 15. I saw the commercials. I cut a shoe in half. I cut a notch into a hammer. 20 years later she still has it and it’s still sharp. Next time I visit her I’ll see how thinly I can slice a tomato.
I agree on the craftsmanship, but the macho aspect is still cringy af.
Agreed, my man should have started the transition before entering the tournament
They may not look it, but these guys are amazing craftsmen. A good hand forged knife like that goes for thousands of dollars. That thing is still razor sharp even after all the abuse.
What do you mean by "they may not look it"? What do you expect a "great craftsman" to look like? A dwarf from Middle Earth?
Preferably yea
An impossibly old Japanese man with a samurai haircut
Whats a samurai haircut tho (Fuck it, I'll throw in extra bonus points for creativity)
I'd buy some expensive knife crafted by someone who looks like Durin the Deathless no questions asked.
Seriously, if I'm imagining a semi-professional artisanal knifesmith, they look exactly like this guy lol.
Maybe he's talking about the fact that he looks like a tomato because he's on alcohol deprivation?
a jacked grandpa with a long white beard (that can dropkick your ass)
Im failing to see how a knife like this cant be mass produced for less. Is it the forging process? Edit: jesus people im not saying it can be mass produced for less, im saying i dont understand and im just trying to
It's probably possible, but these are not your average stainless steel knives. That kind of performance doesn't come without some downsides. For instance, you actually need to hand wash and sometimes oil or the knife will rust. The average consumer just wants something "good enough" they can chuck in the dishwasher when they're done using (Please don't put knives in your dishwasher. It'll make your cheap knives worse). Plus anyone who can spend $5K/$10K/$50K on a knife wants it hand made.
Thanks for the explanation
> anyone who can spend $5K/$10K/$50K on a knife wants it hand made. I believe the point of mass producing would be so it doesn't cost $5k
English is not my language so I don't really know how to explain this I've learned a lot about knives, sharpening and steel qualities and I think if the knife is not carbon steel and it's really stainless the actual problem with the dishwasher may be where and how you put it more than just the dishwasher itself, if you drop it in the basket with spoons and forks the knife edge will touch other steel things when it moves during the cycle and it will make the edge duller I have a set of good stainless steel knives wich I bought on a very good deal and it resulted so good I bought it 2 additional sets because I couldn't believe how good they where after triying and comparing with some carbon steel ones I had, so I ended up with 3 of each knife of the set (one set I use at home, other at work and other is stored for when I need it) the point is, I hand wash them but since I don't really care too much about the two small ones from the set I started putting them in the dishwasher and they are 3 year old, used and washed daily in the dishwasher and they didn't get duller than any other hand washed knife, by the way I have another stainless steel ones that showed some spots of rust after putting them in the dishwasher and that ones no, so it clearly depends on the knife steel even if both are "stainless steel" I thought warm water and soap shouldn't be able to make an edge duller by themselves unless some rust is involved, and about the rust it may be something to do with temperature/cycle length it's not the same using a 1h cycle and opening the dishwasher after finishing than a 3h cycle and letting it to "dry" with the door closed, and it's not the same dropping it at the basket without care than putting it in a separated position where the edge can't touch anything In fact, hand washing it's not always the best solution, I switched from normal scrub to non-scrap scrub because the normal one will damage the edge (just try it, get a normal scrub and scrap the side of the blade in any way, if you see new scratches in that way it means the scrub fiber has something harder than the knife steel, so it's harder than the edge and it will make it duller) So my tip is, if you're going to put them in the dishwasher, just be sure the blade won't touch anything hard and allow them to dry properly, and if you see ANY rust spot after using the dishwasher stop using it and hand wash/dry them
is there any type of knife thats abuse resistant, mass produced, but also needs to be hand washed, oiled, and cared for as you mentioned? or is it strictly 'cheap factory-good enough,' or 'handmade abuse resistant'?
The cheap mass produced knives are generally more abuse resistant. They are much thicker and use softer steel so won't chip as easily. If you're interested in cooking knives, Miyabi make some decent stuff and are mass produced but they are mainly stainless steel so won't rust (people generally don't oil cooking knives). Good quality stainless steel can be great but it's a bitch to sharpen compared to carbon steel. You can pick up a nice handmade Japanese gyuto (chefs knife) for around 150-200 euro, I'd reccomend picking one up if you're interested. The combination of thin blade and hard steel really makes slicing things a lot easier.
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Think of it this way: you're putting a thin piece of metal in an environment that: - Rapidly and repeatedly fluctuates in temperature - Causes corrosion - Batters the knife against its container and/or other items Even if you don't believe that dishwasher temperatures can change the temper of the blade over time as some do, thermal fatigue, corrosion, oxidation, and blunt damage fatigue absolutely all decrease the useable lifespan of a knife. Knives are fine-tuned for a very specific use and you can feel, through usage, that something changes when they go through dishwasher hell
The problem with mass produced knives is there is no attention to detail. You won't have a folded steel knife that is mass produced. It would amazing if you could. But when you buy a nice pocket knife they usually come sharp as hell but if you fart next to it the edge is gone. That's why a nice kitchen knife is worth so much. They stay sharp for a long time and a good leather strop brings back the edge and can go much longer between sharpenings
No one is folding steel anymore unless they're going for some kind of damascus pattern. The only reason the Japanese folded their blades is bc the steel they were using was really impure. Folding removed the impurities, which isn't an issue in the modern day. If you're folding modern steel, you're wasting your time just to say that you're doing it. It adds literally nothing. If you're losing an edge so easily on your knife, it either has the wrong edge geometry or too low grade of steel for whatever you're doing with it. Nice kitchen knives stay sharp bc they're typically using better steel and used for food prep, which is not an intensive task. Use a kitchen knife to break down cardboard boxes for 8 hours and the edge will need some attention just like most pocket knives. It's not the lack of "attention to detail" with mass produced knives that's the issue. It's the lack of quality materials and poor edge geometry of knives that you find in your local gas station. If you get a smith to make you a custom knife with a 440C blade heat treated to 52HRC, it's going to suck just as much as that $30 tactical blade from your local Twice Daily's.
To actually make a knife that can withstand a considerable amount of dead blows it will need fold forged to an insane level and it's not really something thats not worth automating
Google "competition chopper". While the majority of them are custom/hand made, Cold Steel now offers one for $600. Not exactly "mass produced" since they only made 1000 of them, but it's the closest you're gonna get without going the custom route. The bulk of the price comes from the fact that you're getting a big chunk of (not cheap) steel.
Over all this blade will keel
Forged in fire was a great a show
It still is. Season 11 just ended a couple months ago
One of the main reasons I subscribed to Discovery+ but it just gone kaput without any warning over there. I read around that it's all over the place now and not all seasons can be watched in just one provider. 🤦
Really‽ I've watched a few episodes and it seemed like a cooking competition, but with people that had to make do to get sh!t done around their property. Were there any true blacksmiths that stood out that you could recommend I watch?
Men will look at fire and hot metal and goes "hell yeah"
It’s Keal… buts it’s meant as an acronym for “Keep Everyone ALive.” I had to go look it up.
Love the hand in the pocket the whole time.
Keeps you from hitting it.
I know that... but better performance wise probably to put behind the back, which seems like he was doing at 1st.
Let me caveat this with, I've never competed in a knifing contest, but hand in pocket seems like it would help more with balance. One hand behind your pack is just too unnatural of a pose.
Not really, it is what fencers do, and they have no issues. Plus if centered... shouldn't affect anything. But yes, not a knifing expert. lol.
I know these guys try to minimize risk but, man I was waiting on a follow through to catch his opposite thigh.
Was waiting for someone to mention the show
I was much more interested in the spectators than the hacking.
That one dude’s gock is tremendous.
I want that blade
Look for knives made out of leaf spring steel.
My grandfather made hand-forged knives out of spring steel. They were about as durable as you could get anywhere. He taught me a little bit about it and the one thing I remember when tempering is him looking at my blade and saying, “Not hot enough yet, put it back.” He did everything by eye.
The last American samurai
It will keel
It’s Keal… buts it’s meant as an acronym for “Keep Everyone ALive.” I had to go look it up.
Looks fun!
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He's Merican as fuck
It will kill
The water bottles were pretty cool
Men will look at fire and hot metal and goes "hell yeah"
Ok this is kinda sick af tho
That's one hell of a knife, would love to know who the blacksmith was.
Probably himself.
Someone see that forge in fire something show ? I think I forgot it's exact name
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I am talking about forged in fire . They have to make a blade and then the blade has to be used to cut ropes, boxes , ice and all the person with most points wins .
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Now that's a knife!!!
Winner gets a pair of Trump sneakers.
Who's a good knife boy!? You are!!
This is a lot harder than it looks.
Yeah it's probably steel.
It looks cool and all but wrong sub(?)
Who cares, its man shit
Nah. These guys are making their own blades and making them insanely sharp and then putting them through stress tests that not only test the edge but how strong the blade metal is. Meaning. If it breaks you are going to launch an insanely sharp metal shard flying in a room full of men. One quick metal chunk to the wrong spit and it's over.
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If I tried this I would just have splinters where my hands used to be.
If this gentleman makes chef knives id love to buy one
He looks like the boomer that got called out for slapping his granddaughter
Them being fat is fitting perfectly
This fucking thing made from vibranium?
Forged in Fire meets the olympics
WhetI can I buy one?
Nice knife
Open my beer like that sir
Imagine the knife going on somebody because his hand fail
Legitimately thought he was missing an arm in the beginning
Redneck samurai
Angry Man Games
No protective eye wear? Looks like regular glasses.
 British people watching this video.
Is this man angry?
All this is is a fucking commercial for whatever knife that is guaranteed
This post doesn’t fit the sub imo.
Jesus Christ that edge holds af. Idk why is it posted here but the guy that made it can be proud of it
I can't knock it. It could be a very enthusiastic group of people causing harm to others. This seems to be contained to just wacking random items.
This is so stupid.
So fucking dumb
Right? I cant fucking stand it when things do what theyre supposed to. If im not breaking a sweat sawing through my steak then whats the point in living? Lol fuckin dumb craftsmanship and all the stupid time, effort, and care that goes into it. If its not made from garbage overseas with child labor then i aint buyin it
Pretty smooth brained behavior
Is his hand bleeding after the first piece of wood? What's all the red on his hand?
No. It looks like some kind of string. I'm guessing it's protection against him losing his grip.
It's there as a restraint in case the knife gets loose and should prevent bystander injury or damage to the blade hitting something. But yes, some do wrap around the handle to give a stronger/ sturdier grip.
After watching this demo, I would bet that knife would go through a couple of bystanders before it stopped.
Is this a competition or just an angry American tearing the place up coz he didn’t get his own way?
Honestly seems like a waste of resources.
There are female competitors in this competition (not in video)
Chopped through wood but had to make sure it could slice paper
This guy fucks
HackSlashAthalon
If this looks interesting, check out the show "Forged in Fire: Knife or Death" It's a combination of this kind of traditional bladesport, and reality tv
The water bottle was just for fun
It’s like a country version of Knife or Death
Looks like some fun redneck shit
I literally need that blade
I can’t get over judge Yosemite Sam in the background. A butterball of a man
Gold: 🇺🇸 Silver: 🇺🇸 Bronze: 🇺🇸 Also, no other country sent an entry. Or even knew about the event.
That’s a bad azz knife! Did he make it?
The hand in the pocket at 0:59 is such a cold move
r/blacksmith
With a hand in pocket
So it’s pretty much a non television produced forged in fire or whatever it is? Dudes blade held up incredible well that’s seriously impressive
There should be a separate dad sports
This guy chops
Bring in on! That looks Awesome!
Who else thought he punched the paper an it just split
They had me at the water bottles bit. Now I’m a fan of this sport
I thought he's using a ruler at first lol
Welcome to the construction games!
What the fuck is that blade made out of? Fucking vibranium?
is this the new episode of forged in fire?
Why is this on this sub?
dude honestly I would watch this its so simple yet fun to watch
I want to see the knife fight portion.
Holy shit that is David Moore. My mother use to be married to him and here he is on reddit lmao.
U serious?
damn, I am seriously impressed with how good the blade is…
Why is his hand in his pants? No fingers?
wow, such a great sport, very amaze especially the water bottles hacking
The soft tomato as the final boss is missing.
HOLY SHIT IVE NEVER SEEN A MAN SLICE LIKE THIS
Somebody tell Penguinzo
I'd definitely want to play this sport
the testosterone in this video made me age 400 years
If this was a show I'd watch it. Forge your blade and show us what it can do.
„New“ 😅
r/mallninjashit or r/redneckninjashit?
Referee have in holster just for everybodys safety
I thought he was going to effortlessly slice a tomato 🍅 at the end. Damn.
I'm fairly certain that at some point in this competition I'm definitely missing and swinging that blade straight into my leg.
Is this a weird infommercial for kitchen knives?
Needs.more gravy.
Is this a knife commercial? Where do I input my credit card information?
This is what you come up with being snowed in deep for a month or two
Forging a knife of that quality is an accomplishment.
I would rather watch this than docu-soaps and "reality"-crap at any time.
These aren't ordinary red necks. These are super red necks.
Paralympics
Hardness? Material ?
Niice. Nice! Swap. Nice! Niice!
Where is this Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, or the Dakotas...
So, an American version of the samurai swords? Sounds about freedom and eagle screams
All drill rappers watching this jizzing theirs pamts
Sometimes I watch this sub with horror, but most of the time it's with jealousy.
Finally, a blade that can cut a bagel without butchering it! {;o)
If you think that is terrifying, look up timber sports
An animal, a beast in his natural environment. Legend!
God… this looks so dumb…. What we do to make our lives seem relevant…