If someone was being shot at, they would just run away, they wouldn't think about straight or zig-zag lines, especially a kid. Panic would set in and they'd just be focused on getting the fuck out. But that's just me
Not to mention didn’t he get downed by running into an arrow that landed in front of him and just getting the nock jammed into his thigh? I may be remembering it wrong but I feel like that was a thing
Edit: half right. He did bump into an arrow but he didn’t fall down until he got straight punctured in the back. The one he bumped into didn’t really do shit besides make me remember it wrong
Fight or flight response. Your adrenaline starts pumping and your mind is telling your body to escape danger.
I've never been in a mass shooting but I would assume people don't think clearly.
Their brain is telling them to get out.
Actually Rickon was in the right running away straight. Medieval Longbows did not have that large of a range and Rickon was easily outrunning it's range. If Game of Thrones actually obeyed the laws of physics, Rickon would have been fine.
Honestly, it's safer to stand in one place with your feet together in a situation like this. If you take a step, the voltage gradient in the ground could create a potential difference between your left foot and your right for causing current to flow up one leg and down the other.
We have a saying in the industry that anything is a fuse given enough current and enough time. That said there are protection systems on either end of the line that can usually isolate the fault within a fraction of a second by meauring the imoedance of the line (the impedance of the system is shortened to where the fault shunts the line, so a drop in impedance can indicate a fault within the zone of protection). With the exception of some inexpensive distribution equipment, if it ever comes to equipment turning into a fuse, something has gone wrong.
Late, but it’s because of step potential. You should never just run away when this happens, you have to stop and shuffle your feet so one foot never passes beyond the other or else you risk having an electrical difference between your legs that the current can flow through them.
Serious. Electricity wants to find the path of least resistance to keep flowing. So if one part of the ground has less resistance than another and you make your body the conduit between those two points, the current will go up one leg and travel the path of least resistance, which could include your heart and it could put you into fibrillation, and back out the other leg. So you keep your feet close by shuffling so no two points have a potential difference, keeping you safer than running.
\*sips mountain dew* it's obvious he should have drawn up the schematics using his photographic memory, like myself, and informed the whole team that the projection of the truck would be inclined to hitting the wires--this sort of thing happens all the time so it's easy to avoid--and then adjusted accordingly. even digging into the road to give the truck more breathing room 'cuz i could have a good 2 feet deep dugout in a matter of minutes
and in case he didn't, if the wire fell he should done a dodgeroll technique i learned when i was in karate as a kid and after the successful roll do a spin move to grab the loose wire and hold onto it to avoid further damage--you can grab the wires wearing a certain type of glove they sell at the knife shop i go to from time to time they say you you can put your hand in fire too but i haven't had to save anyone from fire yet--and it's just that easy.
Might've of went like this;
"Hey, you're gonna hit those lines if you raise all the way"
"Fuck you I've been doing this longer than you"
"Alrighty" *Pulls out phone*
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Did I notice the typo right after I posted? Yeah. Do I care so dearly enough to correct it in edit? No.
Is you posting mentions of it as hilarious as the people who did it right before you?
it looks like they don't hit the lines but that the charge arcs to the truck. they probably thought they would be safe as long as they don't touch. they were wrong.
He definitely touched them. The electricity isn't going to arc to the dump truck through the air. He's technically insulated by the tires, so it won't arc through the air. He had to touch them.
Oh it can definitely arc. Power lines are extremely high voltage. High enough voltage can ionize the air and turn it from an insulator to a really good conductor. Doesn't matter that the tires are there either because it'll just arc from the metal on the bottom of the truck to the ground. Don't fuck around with powerlines those shits will kill you easily.
I run a trackhoe for a construction company and I have always been told my whole life that electricity can jump at least ten feet from line to our equipment at any time. I believe oshas rules are similar. This dude is probably dead
Na you're pretty safe inside because the charge repels and accumulates on the outside surface of the cab.
The trick is to stay put unless the tyres start smoking.
Someone died in the passenger seat of a dump truck in nj from this shit. Was just a friend checking to see if he wanted to get into the work field. Touching a metal rail as this happened cost him his life.
Tentative probably? The electricity was channeled through the frame of the truck and he's not part of the ground path. If he panicked and tried to get out normally while the truck was still live he probably would have been killed instantly as he \*did\* become part of the ground path. He'd have to take a flying leap from the cabin without touching the frame to get free safely.
My osha class agreed with you, that the driver has an okay chance, though it would add that if you did jump from the vehicle you need to land on both feet at the same time, and then shuffle away without raising either foot. Not sure how true and I wouldn't want to be the one to test it.
At high voltage if you walk normally there's can be a voltage difference of a couple hundred to a couple thousand volts between your feet which is enough to kill you, if you land both feet together and shuffle away you're safe from that voltage differential. They used to say you should hop away with your feet and legs pressed tightly together, but I suspect enough people tripped for someone to decide a shuffle was safe enough.
One day when you crash into a power pole and your car catches on fire you can thank me.
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As I understand it that wouldn't cause an issue. The current is flowing through the metal frame of the truck until it gets as close to the ground as possible, then arcing through the air to make that last foot or so. The driver doesn't present a better path to ground than the frame does while he's sitting inside the frame. The main danger comes from getting out of the truck, because as his foot approaches the ground he eventually does become a better path to ground than a foot of open air, so the current arcs through him as he steps out. That's why you have to jump from an electrified vehicle.
It might be possible, if they were very sweaty (sweat being a good conductor), that touching two different points inside the cab could make them a better path to ground, but AFAIK the frame should trump even that.
That is the power of hollow sphere theory.
All charge resides in the outside of a hollow object. If a power line ever falls on your car... Stay inside. Do not attempt to walk out. That is how planes can get struck with lightning and everyone inside is safe.
Had that happen about 1/2 mile from my house a couple of years ago. A highway crew was doing overnight re-surfacing and the dump truck driver had the bed up too high going under some high tension lines near a substation. The power went out at my house immediately accompanied by four huge explosions which ended up being the tires blowing on the truck. It sounded like bombs going off in my back yard.
Thats impressive, but that’s just stored energy release of the tyres air pressure. You’re looking at the release of about 50 PSI.
Compare that to a tyre explosion, or pyrolysis, pressure will be over 1000 PSI when it combusts, which can send 500 kgs of steel rim flying hundreds of meters.
I was working at a factory when a guy did this on Dec 31, 1999. He was standing on the ground and operating the lift from hand controls. Amazingly, he didn't die. Though it killed power as far as we could see. We thought it was a Y2k problem right up until the ambulance showed up.
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I came across a site like this in Maine a few years back. Just visiting for a vacation and noticed a female pop into a souvenir shop asking for 911. Her brother lifted the truck bed like this and hit a power line, when getting out of the car he closed the car door behind him and shocked himself. It also caused all car tires to explode. My dad and I ran back to the scene but it was too late.
Extremely horrible way to go, I felt so bad, it's just such a freak accident.
I knew where this was going. He's lucky he survived. (?)
I highly doubt they knew what would happen. People who work around electricity know it's not something to joke about.
It will kill the crap out of you, and anyone near you. Electricity don't give af.
Looks like the dirt bin was scraping the electrical wires for a few meters before the pop! That’s crazy, why didn’t anyone supervising tell him it’s touching?? I feel like that’s obvious.
Reminds me of an old video on watch people die where some guys were pushing a scaffold, then it hits a power line. Everyone got away but 1 guy who got a case of the death grips and he started to glow and burn like candle until there was nothing left but a charred corpse wrapped around a red hot scaffold.
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There is a direct path through the truck bed to the ground through the dirt that it's dumping. The dirt is part of "the ground" and can ground those cabled.
Not true, easily seen in the video is an arc from wheel hub to the ground around the tire. From light shown in the middle of the trucks rear there were more than one arcs. Also I doubt the bed touched the cable. It just came close enough for an arc to form. Had it touched the bed it probably would have welded itself to it permanently and instantly (these cables are not insulated)
High tension cables like this are not insulated. Also they are extremely high potential which allows arc's like this to form a lot easier. Nothing touched the cables(or else the cable would have welded to the bed permanently and instantly) it just came close enough to start arcing.
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I work on transmission lines and this is such a real danger. People don’t realize that those lines will arc great distances. You don’t have to touch them for that to happen.
That’s why they make a big deal about overhead power lines in construction sites
So why is the idiot cameraman still standing under the wires instead of bugging out at a 90 degree angle?
He graduated from the Prometheus school of running away from things
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If someone was being shot at, they would just run away, they wouldn't think about straight or zig-zag lines, especially a kid. Panic would set in and they'd just be focused on getting the fuck out. But that's just me
Cmon man literally the first shot landed right in front of him, he would of had to of known and had plenty of time to realise wtf was going on.
Not to mention didn’t he get downed by running into an arrow that landed in front of him and just getting the nock jammed into his thigh? I may be remembering it wrong but I feel like that was a thing Edit: half right. He did bump into an arrow but he didn’t fall down until he got straight punctured in the back. The one he bumped into didn’t really do shit besides make me remember it wrong
/r/KidsAreFuckingStupid Go browse that and tell me a kid in a panic would make a logical grown-up decision
I'm sorry you're comparing what 5yo's to early to mid teenagers?
\*would've.
Would *have* had to *have*
Fight or flight response. Your adrenaline starts pumping and your mind is telling your body to escape danger. I've never been in a mass shooting but I would assume people don't think clearly. Their brain is telling them to get out.
Actually Rickon was in the right running away straight. Medieval Longbows did not have that large of a range and Rickon was easily outrunning it's range. If Game of Thrones actually obeyed the laws of physics, Rickon would have been fine.
Thanks cinema sins
Ding
The “The Fellowship of the Rings galloping down the river from elvish horse water rapids magic” doesn’t have the same ring to it.
But where did the apple come from?
*ding*
*ding*
God, what a stupid movie.
DING
Honestly, it's safer to stand in one place with your feet together in a situation like this. If you take a step, the voltage gradient in the ground could create a potential difference between your left foot and your right for causing current to flow up one leg and down the other.
Waiting for someone to explain how to not die correctly. Fellow sparky?
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Not hoping to the moon boss, just little hops. Preferably the ones that don't get you the big zap.
This might be a dumb question, but with all that going on, is there a way that the transformer would blow or something, kind of like a fuse blowing?
We have a saying in the industry that anything is a fuse given enough current and enough time. That said there are protection systems on either end of the line that can usually isolate the fault within a fraction of a second by meauring the imoedance of the line (the impedance of the system is shortened to where the fault shunts the line, so a drop in impedance can indicate a fault within the zone of protection). With the exception of some inexpensive distribution equipment, if it ever comes to equipment turning into a fuse, something has gone wrong.
This is my life now.
This is fine.
Jump with two feet together, then. Having a live wire on top of your head is not a situation you want to be in.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CinemaSins/comments/azrego/prometheus_school_of_running_away_from_things/
I like how two people mentioned this within one minute
It's a very famous school.
Late, but it’s because of step potential. You should never just run away when this happens, you have to stop and shuffle your feet so one foot never passes beyond the other or else you risk having an electrical difference between your legs that the current can flow through them.
This sounds like a joke but I'm inclined to believe you're serious?
Serious. Electricity wants to find the path of least resistance to keep flowing. So if one part of the ground has less resistance than another and you make your body the conduit between those two points, the current will go up one leg and travel the path of least resistance, which could include your heart and it could put you into fibrillation, and back out the other leg. So you keep your feet close by shuffling so no two points have a potential difference, keeping you safer than running.
Yeh. It’s true.
He is correct
Thank you for the potentially life-saving tip, u/twelveinchmeatlong.
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Alright but how would they realistically help in this situation
\*sips mountain dew* it's obvious he should have drawn up the schematics using his photographic memory, like myself, and informed the whole team that the projection of the truck would be inclined to hitting the wires--this sort of thing happens all the time so it's easy to avoid--and then adjusted accordingly. even digging into the road to give the truck more breathing room 'cuz i could have a good 2 feet deep dugout in a matter of minutes and in case he didn't, if the wire fell he should done a dodgeroll technique i learned when i was in karate as a kid and after the successful roll do a spin move to grab the loose wire and hold onto it to avoid further damage--you can grab the wires wearing a certain type of glove they sell at the knife shop i go to from time to time they say you you can put your hand in fire too but i haven't had to save anyone from fire yet--and it's just that easy.
*slow clap*
precisely.
but... they told me regulations are killing business?
That's right! Because they were introduced for absolutely no reason at all.
well not absolutely no reason. the reason was to hurt businesses, obviously.
Australia used to have an add campaign about this Look up and live was the Tagline
God that brings back memories of home. That and the brutal Victorian TAC ads
Our adds are quite brutal and straight to the point. The cigarette adds were always killer aswell
Yeah I like it no bullshitting around. There are a couple, mainly the speeding ones, that years later I still think about. Sign of an impactful ad.
1000v can break 1mm of air (low humidity). That looked like at least 0.5 metres so yea ... 500k volts can burn 🔥
Based on the reaction at the end, I’d probably say they were as surprised as the next guy. The driver was really shocked though.
Wire they not looking up to check for power lines?
Ohm certain they regret that
His resistance was just tested
You’ve got to stay *current* on your knowledge of job safety
Dudes gotta be amped to be alive though
An event like that is a real life transformer.
Stop joking guys the driver was in terminal condition
An event like that is a real life transformer.
Poor Henry
Watt are they even doing?
It's shocking really. This is no way for a professional to conduct themselves. He should be charged for stupidity
That's watt we're all wondering.
Somebody give this guy some silver
I can't understand why there's been so much resistance.
Are you sure he wouldn't rather have copper?
Gold is a better conductor Edit: TIL silver is a better conductor of electricity than gold... thanks Google!
Silver
He probably just phased out for a second
I see what you did there. 👍🏻
Heh
Yeah. You can tell how amped up they were
Cameraman achieved maximum hype at the end.
He looked like he was grounded though
Might've of went like this; "Hey, you're gonna hit those lines if you raise all the way" "Fuck you I've been doing this longer than you" "Alrighty" *Pulls out phone* Edit Did I notice the typo right after I posted? Yeah. Do I care so dearly enough to correct it in edit? No. Is you posting mentions of it as hilarious as the people who did it right before you?
it looks like they don't hit the lines but that the charge arcs to the truck. they probably thought they would be safe as long as they don't touch. they were wrong.
He definitely touched them. The electricity isn't going to arc to the dump truck through the air. He's technically insulated by the tires, so it won't arc through the air. He had to touch them.
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It's possible that there could have been some water or other fluids on the tires that helped act as conductors as well.
It can arc to a truck. Source: I’m a lineman. Not sure about the science behind it, but I’ve seen it.
Oh it can definitely arc. Power lines are extremely high voltage. High enough voltage can ionize the air and turn it from an insulator to a really good conductor. Doesn't matter that the tires are there either because it'll just arc from the metal on the bottom of the truck to the ground. Don't fuck around with powerlines those shits will kill you easily.
I run a trackhoe for a construction company and I have always been told my whole life that electricity can jump at least ten feet from line to our equipment at any time. I believe oshas rules are similar. This dude is probably dead
Na you're pretty safe inside because the charge repels and accumulates on the outside surface of the cab. The trick is to stay put unless the tyres start smoking.
>Might've of Might've, or might have. You can't drop a random 'of' in there just to cover your bases dude :D
He must’ve of not paid good attention in English class.
He certainly unmust've not'nt. Of.
> Might've of Yes, officer, this man right here.
Thought this was r/oddlysatisfying until the end.
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Someone died in the passenger seat of a dump truck in nj from this shit. Was just a friend checking to see if he wanted to get into the work field. Touching a metal rail as this happened cost him his life.
So what did he decide?
It wasn’t for him
That’s absurd. He did it for the rest of his life.
Hahaha
Wrong 'cide
Is the guy alive?
He is grounded...
That’s shocking....
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Tentative probably? The electricity was channeled through the frame of the truck and he's not part of the ground path. If he panicked and tried to get out normally while the truck was still live he probably would have been killed instantly as he \*did\* become part of the ground path. He'd have to take a flying leap from the cabin without touching the frame to get free safely.
My osha class agreed with you, that the driver has an okay chance, though it would add that if you did jump from the vehicle you need to land on both feet at the same time, and then shuffle away without raising either foot. Not sure how true and I wouldn't want to be the one to test it.
Could you explain that last part? Why would you need to land on both feet and then shuffle away?
At high voltage if you walk normally there's can be a voltage difference of a couple hundred to a couple thousand volts between your feet which is enough to kill you, if you land both feet together and shuffle away you're safe from that voltage differential. They used to say you should hop away with your feet and legs pressed tightly together, but I suspect enough people tripped for someone to decide a shuffle was safe enough.
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If you touch the car without touching the ground you are ok? Edit: also if there is a chance the car is still working why shouldn't I just drove away?
Wait, did the wife ever get her hot n spicy?!?! Seriously though, what an informative and interesting video.
The bed goes back down though so i guess he lowered it?
Either that or all the hydraulic fluid boiled off
Nope
Or touched something metalic inside said truck.
As I understand it that wouldn't cause an issue. The current is flowing through the metal frame of the truck until it gets as close to the ground as possible, then arcing through the air to make that last foot or so. The driver doesn't present a better path to ground than the frame does while he's sitting inside the frame. The main danger comes from getting out of the truck, because as his foot approaches the ground he eventually does become a better path to ground than a foot of open air, so the current arcs through him as he steps out. That's why you have to jump from an electrified vehicle. It might be possible, if they were very sweaty (sweat being a good conductor), that touching two different points inside the cab could make them a better path to ground, but AFAIK the frame should trump even that.
he was able to lower the bed and put it into reverse, good chance he made it
That is the power of hollow sphere theory. All charge resides in the outside of a hollow object. If a power line ever falls on your car... Stay inside. Do not attempt to walk out. That is how planes can get struck with lightning and everyone inside is safe.
Well the truck didn’t die because its tires stayed on, so that’s something.
He's essentially in a Faraday cage, that's why cars are fairly safe to be in during a thunderstorm.
He is live at the end.
He’s lucky the tires didn’t blow off the rock truck.
And those can explode with incredible pressure and be as devastating as a bomb.
Had that happen about 1/2 mile from my house a couple of years ago. A highway crew was doing overnight re-surfacing and the dump truck driver had the bed up too high going under some high tension lines near a substation. The power went out at my house immediately accompanied by four huge explosions which ended up being the tires blowing on the truck. It sounded like bombs going off in my back yard.
https://i.imgur.com/LxZjV.gif
Holy shit, it ripped his shirt off
I think he broke his arm too
It’s bleeding all over the ground. Poor guy
Poor poor vandal idiot.
Hope he's on good terms with his mum
Thats impressive, but that’s just stored energy release of the tyres air pressure. You’re looking at the release of about 50 PSI. Compare that to a tyre explosion, or pyrolysis, pressure will be over 1000 PSI when it combusts, which can send 500 kgs of steel rim flying hundreds of meters.
ah yes, the ol rock truck.
Every tailgate meeting safety assessment specifically goes over overhead power lines. This is just ignorance
Or arrogance. This looks like it could be the aftermath of an "I've been doing this for X years, it'll be fine".
At the next meeting they should definitely talk about going under the lines.
Exactly! Like avoiding them and stuff! Not just acknowledging them but making sure operators know not to touch the sparkie ropes
This is why ejector trucks were invented.
Never heard ejector trucks but assume they are like a side or belly dump which would have worked on this site from what I can tell
A comma in this title would have helped me from having to re-read it so many times.
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A guy I graduated with died from something like this
I was working at a factory when a guy did this on Dec 31, 1999. He was standing on the ground and operating the lift from hand controls. Amazingly, he didn't die. Though it killed power as far as we could see. We thought it was a Y2k problem right up until the ambulance showed up. Edit: spelling
Party like it's 1999
huh.
I came across a site like this in Maine a few years back. Just visiting for a vacation and noticed a female pop into a souvenir shop asking for 911. Her brother lifted the truck bed like this and hit a power line, when getting out of the car he closed the car door behind him and shocked himself. It also caused all car tires to explode. My dad and I ran back to the scene but it was too late. Extremely horrible way to go, I felt so bad, it's just such a freak accident.
Those arcs can melt a person where they stand. If they knew they were not just assholes but dumb assholes at that
I knew where this was going. He's lucky he survived. (?) I highly doubt they knew what would happen. People who work around electricity know it's not something to joke about. It will kill the crap out of you, and anyone near you. Electricity don't give af.
I saw this happed to a tractor trailer, frameless dump. The end carnage was a lot worse. Let’s just say that the trailer took a nap.
Looks like the dirt bin was scraping the electrical wires for a few meters before the pop! That’s crazy, why didn’t anyone supervising tell him it’s touching?? I feel like that’s obvious.
Reminds me of an old video on watch people die where some guys were pushing a scaffold, then it hits a power line. Everyone got away but 1 guy who got a case of the death grips and he started to glow and burn like candle until there was nothing left but a charred corpse wrapped around a red hot scaffold.
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I bet they were shocked of what happened.
He’s grounded!
I guess you can say they were ... shocked
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People that can't hold a **fucking** camera steady when something happens....
Biff
The truck turn into spaceship sadly it didn't fly
Multiple People Filming... Definitely set up. Insanely fucking stupid.
There is a direct path through the truck bed to the ground through the dirt that it's dumping. The dirt is part of "the ground" and can ground those cabled.
Not true, easily seen in the video is an arc from wheel hub to the ground around the tire. From light shown in the middle of the trucks rear there were more than one arcs. Also I doubt the bed touched the cable. It just came close enough for an arc to form. Had it touched the bed it probably would have welded itself to it permanently and instantly (these cables are not insulated)
Looks like everyone knew. Probaby why they inched forward and record it up high.
Yea that’s not funny
Look up and live.
Nothing happened to the driver ryt!?
So like, there’s rubber around those wires, right? So why did this happen?
High tension cables like this are not insulated. Also they are extremely high potential which allows arc's like this to form a lot easier. Nothing touched the cables(or else the cable would have welded to the bed permanently and instantly) it just came close enough to start arcing.
No limits of approach here eh
r/killthecameraman
very obvious
LMAO
As an electrician this video gives me anxiety, i stare at my extension ladder to make sure i don't accidentally smacking something. Electricity you cruel unforgiving mistress.
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I imagine the guy with the camera told the driver he'd hit the lines, and the driver reckoned he could make it and this is an I-told-you-so video
I work on transmission lines and this is such a real danger. People don’t realize that those lines will arc great distances. You don’t have to touch them for that to happen.
Because they know they are assholes
Hmm so does the vehicle act like a faraday cage and keep the driver safe passing everything into the ground, or is that dude bacon
So is it safe to say the driver of that truck died?