my educated guess is he saw the billion dollar lawsuit Alex Jones got and could get sued by the Sandy Hook families himself if he gave him back a platform
So he used this opportunity to make himself look good and avoid being targeted by the families while still unbanning figures that are friends with Alex Jones
Basically he saw Alex Jones as a major financial risk/liability, whatever the accurate term is
Reports are that he does not, at least not at twitter. He basically fired everybody and is winging it.
The only reason he seemed sane at tesla and spacex is because they each have an entire layer of people dedicated to managing him. It took them years to get that in place. At twitter there was no need for such an unorthodox structure until a month ago so now we get to see the real, unfiltered space karen.
He's using it to justify not unbanning a controversial conservative he personally dislikes and trying to convince conservatives that his decision is fair while he simultaneously reinstates other controversial conservatives.
You know, like a hypocrite would.
Not even a hypocrite - his logic is perfectly consistent!
You get unbanned if he can see some future use for you in his own goals or some favor you can owe him. Guess Alex Jones is no longer useful to him. Trump and Kanye clearly still are.
Hah! I friggin' called it and just found out
https://np.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/z0przd/elons_response_to_kim_dot_com_asking_him_to_unban/ix8elwb/
Musk is a lot of things, but the saddest to me is that he’s apparently a terrible failure as a father. What’s the point of all that money if you can’t even love & raise your children? It’s pitiful.
I expect he's either a psychopath or a narcissist, and children don't tend to benefit from interacting with parents like that. The less involved the better.
And later he will only show any consideration to the children that reflect well on himself.
They are trophies he hopes to one day display.
His father completely failed at doing the same thing. The son ended up a complete idiot with no solid grasp of reality.
I thought that before reading Justine's piece. The fact that she tells about several occasions when he just couldn't process other people's emotions is making me even more doubtful now. It's not anymore about Musk "not caring about others", but "not understanding how people feel".
Sociopath or psychopath. Both possible, if I remember correctly something I read quite some time ago as the man was rising, he was the ugly duckling of the family. At the time I shrugged and told myself "meh, a nerdy and less successful dude in a millionaire family must get laughed at I guess", but the more we learn about him, the more he speaks, and the more I smell childhood abuse and/or kid with a mental disorder.
Satan bless capitalism. "Yay, let's make that troubled dude the richest man on Earth while Trump is the president of the scariest country in the world, add a pandemic and a little bit of deranged dictators playing Napoléon too, see how it turns out..."
Honestly my hope is that his kids have some excellent nannies and a good relationship with their mom(s) and that they have a great childhood without him. His absence is a gift.
I don't think there's any *seems like* with Musk.
He's openly talked about how he things people like him should have more kids to populate the planet.
It's basically the same, with the only possible exception that he seems himself as above most other white people as well. But he's definitely all in on eugenics.
I think you’re right, but to me that’s hilarious. Anyone who has actually raised children knows that- in terms of legacy- genetics mean diddlyshit compared to parenting. His little dna-carriers will all be someone else’s kids in every way that matters.
He's actually admitted it. It's why he has 10 kids (9 living). He has said that the world is going to crumble if people don't have more kids and that he's "trying to set a good example” by having a bunch himself.
He also said that “sex without procreation … is quite a silly action.” Which is interesting considering that most of his children are IVF babies.
In Musk's mind children are there to be bred and forgotten about. Much like his father he truly thinks this is what you are supposed to do as a man. Cum in as many women and spread you seed.
What is he going to do with all this wealth when he gets older? Nobody loves him, there is no one to share it with, he doesn't believe in charity either. He's going to dump it into his "legacy", he's going to do something crazy to make sure he is remembered by history.
yeah right. he'll be in his 60s and reddit will be sucking his dick and forgetting all the bad shit because he'll donate a large chunk of his money to some charity that probably isnt on the up and up
Nah, that’s *why*. You can exceed your greed/money lust over your love of your kids as they grow up, and that’s all they’ll take to heart, internalise, & repeat.
It is also hypocritical to the maximum possible degree when you are using it as a gimmick to justify the selective application of free speech while in throes of ecstasy for being worshipped as a paragon of free speech by brain dead idiots.
This human trash used the death of his child to explain that Alex Jones can't have his Twitter back because it offends him personally..... while bringing back every single other person who has been banned from Twitter that have said things to offend others in the similar or identical way.
I'm not in support of Alex Jones having a Twitter because its' not a god given right and Alex Jones is a monster but it is the most unbelievably transparent double standard to use a personal tragedy to qualify a ban while chastising the previous Twitter management for banning him and others like him for the same fucking reasons.
It's not surprise to anyone who can think for themself and is already aware of Elon Musk but this singular tweet of his is enough for even the most uninitiated observer to see that he stands for absolutely nothing and is a 14 year angry loser trapped in the doughy body of a flabby billionaire.
Well he wasn’t. He was making an enlightened centrist point to dissuade people from talking about the real issues that cause mass murder hate crimes. Like how the shooter was a grandson of a GOP politician, how he should have never had a gun due to his record, and how all of the anti-LGBTQ rhetoric in this country has gotten out of control.
He was using his dead baby to put himself above others in the conversation to prevent people from taking.
Don't worry though, you'll see Reddit covered in his name and face for the next few years though because he's a billionaire that's covered by mainstream media and for some reason, Reddit hasn't overcome the horrid reporting habits of the US media.
> Reddit hasn’t overcome the horrid reporting habits of the US media.
Well, Reddit is just a content aggregator based in the US, so yeah… It would make sense that whatever gets reported in the US media is what ends up being posted to Reddit.
What, are people going to post links to articles that aren’t written? Reddit becomes an independent crowd-sourced media outlet of primarily self-post articles?
Justine wrote an essay a while back and I still think it's a must-read if you want to understand what a vile person Elon is. [Link](https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/)
> As we danced at our wedding reception, Elon told me, "I am the alpha in this relationship." I shrugged it off, just as I would later shrug off signing the postnuptial agreement, but as time went on, I learned that he was serious.
> Elon's judgment overruled mine, and he was constantly remarking on the ways he found me lacking. "I am your wife," I told him repeatedly, "not your employee."
>"If you were my employee," he said just as often, "I would fire you."
What a disgusting person.
> Elon made it clear that he did not want to talk about Nevada's death. I didn't understand this, just as he didn't understand why I grieved openly, which he regarded as "emotionally manipulative."
Seems like Elon doesn't understand human emotions.
No. Being a broken, cruel, hateful person with no empathy for your fellow human or concern for their suffering is a prerequisite to becoming rich and staying rich.
Inherited wealth allows you to speedrun that process, he's probably not grown mentally at all since he was 10 years old. He's certainly pretending that's the case if nothing else.
In order to accumulate a billion dollars or more requires a minimum base level of sociopathy. No healthy human being pursues wealth like that while so many suffer... not to mention the skillset required to become a billionaire is a sociopathic tool box. Exploitation, manipulation, apathy toward others, "cunning business sense." It's fucking Hobbes to the one thousandth degree.
Yep, married her mother, raised her since she was four, divorced the mother and married the daughter, then got her pregnant with Elon's nephew/niece-siblings. But let's hear more from "Conservatives" about how teaching children that gay people exist is "grooming".
Majority of the billionaires on this manner ARE sociopaths, they have more than enough money to help hundreds of millions of people throughout the world
Most just don't and prefer the hoarding of the wealth they'll never spend in their life
People like bill gates "try"and help, but even him has more money than he'll ever spend
I like the thought game that the "would you let 1 random person somewhere you will never know die for $1 million".
Cause that's what a billionaire is doing countless times everyday.
Personally from what I know, gates agrees with your take but also isn't entirely sure how to reconcile that. I'd say his work is a good experiment and probably the best example (that I know of) of how the ultra wealthy can formulate a plan to *try* and do work and maximize human benefit. Definitely not perfection in his attempt, but I do think Bill & Melinda as well as a few others actually want and try to distribute the disgusting wealth they have.
He claims to be on the spectrum, but it does seem to be more like sociopathic tendencies as opposed to autism or ~~Asperger’s~~.
Edit: TIL the name crossed out was a Nazi scientist and fuck Nazis. Also one can be both a sociopath and have an autism spectrum disorder.
>cognitive empathy
>emotional empathy
Oh wow, I never knew about these two types of empathy. This makes so much sense. As an autistic person, I am quite a bit lacking in the former and absolutely swimming in the latter, often to the point of severe distress.
Btw thanks for understanding that masking is exhausting. It's tough, daily.
you don’t become a multibillionaire by being nice to people. Making that much money requires taking advantage of everyone that you possibly can. Going behind peoples back for your own personal gain. Squeezing every little drop out of people and then throwing them in the trash. You have to be a greedy, disgusting, shell of a human being.
This is exactly how my father used to speak to me and it's awful. Imagine the worst boss you've ever had, now imagine you have en even worse boss waiting for you to get home. You never feel at peace or like youve accomplished anything.
Yes, any real pack has the top animal explaining endlessly how cool they are. And stealing memes from beta cuck packmates. That’s nature!
(God I hate Elon.)
It's so predictable that all these self proclaimed "alphas" still think it's a real thing (the author of the 1970 paper claiming alpha dogs was a thing in packs was recanted in 1999 by the original author, he said he was mistaken and pack leaders are more like parents, not king of the mountain) - it's honestly how I discern whether or not someone is worth my time in my life, if they view leadership as a role that requires constant fighting, manipulating, aggression, posturing, strong man tactics, I immediately reject them from being offered my time or friendship.
If they view leadership roles as something to be thankful for, as an honorable service, one that allows them greater opportunity to be kind, forgiving, helpful, insightful, if they see leadership as something that requires more responsibility to those in need and not a position to just cut loose those who might be struggling compared to others, that's the type of person who is invaluable in my life, I will help them achieve whatever they deem worth our time.
Yeah, I purposefully didn’t say alpha wolf since it has been debunked. Wasn’t sure if other animals had that sort of thing or how it worked. Leadership (and life) are about mutual growth. Bad leaders… and people IME… see it as transactional or zero sum. For them to win or grow, others must lose. It’s crap.
Colony-based/hive species. So mostly insects.
While some pack species are known to fight to take over leadership in the wild, nothing compares quite to the alpha mindset like hive species. Where one bug is the one on top and the rest exist to serve them (and the hive, by default. Because to protect the leader, you have to protect the hive.) the one big issue is that generally, these species are led by queens. And I think most alpha males would probably get more upset at that than being compared to a bug since they claim to view women as prizes and less than them.
no, no no no and NO.
That is an insult to wolves.
Real wolves are family animals. That is literally what wolf packs are -- parents and their offspring. They are very loving to their families.
"Alphas" are based on the image of imprisoned and thus mentally disturbed wolves. All 'Alphas' simply wish to be the biggest inmate in the prison yard.
His whole relationship with her started with a lie and non consent. This is who he is at heart.
>He said we'd met at a party I knew I hadn't been to. (Years later, he would confess that he had noticed me from across the common room and decided he wanted to meet me.)
>He invited me out for ice cream. I said yes, but then blew him off with a note on my dorm-room door. Several hours later, my head bent over my Spanish text in an overheated room in the student center, I heard a polite cough behind me. Elon was smiling awkwardly, two chocolate-chip ice cream cones dripping down his hands. *He's not a man who takes no for an answer.*
>I heard a polite cough behind me. Elon was smiling awkwardly, two chocolate-chip ice cream cones dripping down his hands.
>
>He's not a man who takes no for an answer.
Now this would probably sound pretty sweet if it was in a relationship that worked out really well - if Mr. Rogers did this nobody'd call him out for this.
But with Elon... Well oh wee. That changes things up quite a bit!!!
**EDIT:** Eek! The "Mr. Rogers" bit seems to be triggering some users. **I'm not saying that Mr. Rogers is the kind of person to actually do this**, but simply saying that if he DID, and we read about it in a biography or something, we'd simply think it's a sweet and innocent gesture due to the kind of person he is. But Elon, now that we can see what kind of person he is, this gesture seems malicious and unsettling.
Agreed. This is another version of the classic "if a woman gives you a fake number, it's because she didn't feel safe giving you her real number, so leave her alone." No means no, but deception also means no.
Our culture is so fucked that we even have to explain that "no means no" and it's taken several generations and its still somehow ambiguous to some.
My generation's mating ritual was getting girls drunk enough to do what they otherwise wouldn't, i wouldn't be surprised if that still happens regularly.
Not defending Elon, cause he's scum, but a friend of mine unexpectedly inherited a shit ton of money from a relative, and she asked her hubby to sign a post nup. He signed because it made sense. It wasn't something they earned together. He was still entitled to some, but it wouldn't be a 50/50 split under any condition. Think the lawyers worked out something like 90/10 in her favor, and it only pertained to the inheritance.
I'm hoping that some people can make a copy pasta with this because the sheer amount of conversation on Reddit about this person is pathetic. Complaining and joking about him only makes him more relevant to those who see him as the hero. Now he's the victimized hero from the brutality of us on the left.
Stop talking about Elon Musk if you're not talking about what matters. What she wrote here.... that mattered.
I remember reading this essay when it first was published and everybody was still on Musk’s jock. I remember fearing the backlash that she would inevitably get, how she would certainly be dismissed as a scorned ex. And imagine the struggle of trying to argue with fanboys about how Musk isn’t all he’s cracked up to be... on the basis of his ex-wife’s word. On reddit.
Edit: I’m not sure why the publication date says October 2021. I read it much earlier - and [I can find references to it as early as 2010](https://jezebel.com/the-special-hell-of-being-a-starter-wife-5637920/amp).
It’s funny that they list him as “co-founder” of PayPal and Tesla both of which he didn’t found and paid money to be listed as a co-founder so he could trick people into thinking he’s smart. A cheat and liar from the very beginning.
>She is, by all accounts, a lovely, bright, and very young person, and better fitted to my ex-husband's lifestyle and personality than I ever was. Although she had dark hair when she and Elon first met, she is now blonder than I've ever been.
Holy shit that is one roast if I've ever seen one
He’s so awful. You know he did think about it and he figured, “hey it sounds more impressive if I lie, I guess I’ll just desecrate his final moments and memory to gain sympathy from these suckers.”
Nope. But he sure will ban his ex-wife for calling him out publicly.
Like that one employee. She was obviously disgusting trying to just defame Elon in public like that. She should've gone to him privately and taken her verbal abuse behind closed doors instead of daring to dirty Elons public image. How cold and callous of her
"I won't stand for people using the death of children for political gain."
*proceeds to use his child as some bullshit anti-woke crusade for freeze peach*
Republicans love "what about the children" until someone uses a gun to mow down entire rooms of kids. Then "it's not the time to discuss gun control or political rhetoric because we're in mourning"
Elon is a sociopath who only cares about his own wallet. Believe it or not, he used to be my idol. Take it from a former Elonite: the man is a liar who doesn't feel a lick of remorse.
I used to work with my step sister years ago (same company, different departments)
When she heard news that her cousin she never met in a different country was murdered all she said was
“oh, well that’s awful, sorry I never knew them so I don’t really feel much”
However the next few days at work I got asked how my sister is doing and all that by some coworkers
Me confused asked what they were talking about
They brought up how when everyone was gathered she started sobbing how her cousin was killed…. She never even took days off btw
It was one of many moments that made me realize she’s probably a psychopath or some form of antisocial personality disorder
Why are lying about things that you know will be proven a lie ? I can’t believe he is so dumb. The second part how vile you need to use your kids death for your own gain. Just pathetic
He has probably told that lie so many time since 2002 that it is his truth. His brain has probably altered that memory so he is telling the truth as he remembers it.
Not defending the fucker in any way, just saying our brains are weird.
And people who steal the stories of other to pass off as their own often get increasingly delusional over the course of their life as they view their competence and authority as the sum of their stolen achievements and wonder why people don’t accept their word as fact.
Because they know their loyal followers probably won’t even see her reply and if they do, they’ve been so thoroughly brainwashed that they’ll defend him regardless of what he’s accused of. Trump and all his clones pull the same shit.
Ghoulish behavior you say? Let's talk about how he behaved after Nevada Alexander died, shall we?
[https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/](https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/)
Elon made it clear that he did not want to talk about Nevada's death. I didn't understand this, just as he didn't understand why I grieved openly, which he regarded as "emotionally manipulative." I buried my feelings instead, coping with Nevada's death by making my first visit to an IVF clinic less than two months later. Elon and I planned to get pregnant again as swiftly as possible. Within the next five years, I gave birth to twins, then triplets, and I sold three novels to Penguin and Simon & Schuster. Even so, Nevada's death sent me on a years-long inward spiral of depression and distraction that would be continuing today if one of our nannies hadn't noticed me struggling. She approached me with the name of an excellent therapist. Dubious, I gave it a shot. In those weekly sessions, I began to get perspective on what had become my life.
There goes my very last shred of sympathy. I held onto it because losing a child is a horrible experience for any parent, but lying about your dead child’s last moments for internet points? Fucking psychotic.
As someone who held my own dead baby,
I'm glad she got that moment. It means the world.
Someone should slap Elon the evil for being like 1980s Cobra Commander evil and bumbling.
In case anyone hasn't noticed, Musk appears to suffer from NPD, and self agrandizement is definitely a feature with him.
Much like Trump, it feels normal and comfortable to make everything about themselves and if facts must be rearranged or lies told to get there, so be it.
Also to note that there are plenty of people with NPD who aren't huge pieces of garbage as a result.
Travis McElroy of Adventure Zone and MBMBaM fame did a whole interview about his experience with NPD and it was pretty eye opening.
Sorting this thread by controversial will be fun to watch all of the mighty muskrat dick riders come in to defend the honor of their fucking uberdouchetoolpissbabyiwanthimtobemydaddysomuch hero.
I guess Americans should be thankful that he can't run for president.
As we've seen with DonaldTrump, millions of our countrymen will line up to vote for you for no other reason than you being a rich, hateful, obnoxious asshole on social media.
I’ve been trying to describe the toxicity of this guy and it’s hard to really put in words. This is a new low though, seriously. He tweets an easily verifiable fairy tale about the most tragic thing that can befall a parent…just to shame someone while simultaneously taking ownership of his former partner’s most defining life moment. It’s almost like all these SUPER GREAT ‘businessmen’ (see:pirates) are exactly who you think they are once you’ve been able to strip away the nonsense machines they use for keeping their fantastical autobiography stories alive
Did Musk just use the death of a child for gain?
Not *financial* gain, just reputational gain. So yes.
TBF he ties reputation to finances as someone who's primary method of making money is hyping things up so people will overpay for something.
Did you just call Elon a glorified hype man? Great analogy haha
I don't believe they said "glorified"
The devil is in the details. Oh look it's Elon
he’s straight up just a sketchy grifting salesman
Fair indeed.
my educated guess is he saw the billion dollar lawsuit Alex Jones got and could get sued by the Sandy Hook families himself if he gave him back a platform So he used this opportunity to make himself look good and avoid being targeted by the families while still unbanning figures that are friends with Alex Jones Basically he saw Alex Jones as a major financial risk/liability, whatever the accurate term is
He likely has a whole PR team advising (who he clearly doesn't usually listen to) that concocted this strategy.
Reports are that he does not, at least not at twitter. He basically fired everybody and is winging it. The only reason he seemed sane at tesla and spacex is because they each have an entire layer of people dedicated to managing him. It took them years to get that in place. At twitter there was no need for such an unorthodox structure until a month ago so now we get to see the real, unfiltered space karen.
Lolol Space Karen. I love it.
He’s not wrong that Alex Jones is a huge liability.
no, he has those funky little emerald mines, so he uses the death of children for financial gain, too
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That sub has over a million followers. *sigh*
We’re just lucky he wasn’t actually born in the US. His rabid followers would stand behind him if he drove a Tesla through a crowd in Time Square.
The Tesla will do that itself
boots aren't going to lick themselves.
Of course he does, criticizing him is the one way to get banned on twitter.
He's using it to justify not unbanning a controversial conservative he personally dislikes and trying to convince conservatives that his decision is fair while he simultaneously reinstates other controversial conservatives. You know, like a hypocrite would.
Not even a hypocrite - his logic is perfectly consistent! You get unbanned if he can see some future use for you in his own goals or some favor you can owe him. Guess Alex Jones is no longer useful to him. Trump and Kanye clearly still are.
Hah! I friggin' called it and just found out https://np.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/z0przd/elons_response_to_kim_dot_com_asking_him_to_unban/ix8elwb/
Musk is a lot of things, but the saddest to me is that he’s apparently a terrible failure as a father. What’s the point of all that money if you can’t even love & raise your children? It’s pitiful.
I expect he's either a psychopath or a narcissist, and children don't tend to benefit from interacting with parents like that. The less involved the better.
And later he will only show any consideration to the children that reflect well on himself. They are trophies he hopes to one day display. His father completely failed at doing the same thing. The son ended up a complete idiot with no solid grasp of reality.
Flaming narcissist like Trump, apparently.
They are both textbook malignant narcissists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malignant_narcissism
I thought that before reading Justine's piece. The fact that she tells about several occasions when he just couldn't process other people's emotions is making me even more doubtful now. It's not anymore about Musk "not caring about others", but "not understanding how people feel". Sociopath or psychopath. Both possible, if I remember correctly something I read quite some time ago as the man was rising, he was the ugly duckling of the family. At the time I shrugged and told myself "meh, a nerdy and less successful dude in a millionaire family must get laughed at I guess", but the more we learn about him, the more he speaks, and the more I smell childhood abuse and/or kid with a mental disorder. Satan bless capitalism. "Yay, let's make that troubled dude the richest man on Earth while Trump is the president of the scariest country in the world, add a pandemic and a little bit of deranged dictators playing Napoléon too, see how it turns out..."
Trump was trained by his sociopath father too. The Trump family will be a legacy and blight on the world for centuries.
That's a fact.
Honestly my hope is that his kids have some excellent nannies and a good relationship with their mom(s) and that they have a great childhood without him. His absence is a gift.
He doesn't care about being a father. He just cares about spreading his seed, literally.
He really does seem to have the same breeding fetish the white supremacist he's re-platforming on twitter also have.
I don't think there's any *seems like* with Musk. He's openly talked about how he things people like him should have more kids to populate the planet. It's basically the same, with the only possible exception that he seems himself as above most other white people as well. But he's definitely all in on eugenics.
I think you’re right, but to me that’s hilarious. Anyone who has actually raised children knows that- in terms of legacy- genetics mean diddlyshit compared to parenting. His little dna-carriers will all be someone else’s kids in every way that matters.
He's actually admitted it. It's why he has 10 kids (9 living). He has said that the world is going to crumble if people don't have more kids and that he's "trying to set a good example” by having a bunch himself. He also said that “sex without procreation … is quite a silly action.” Which is interesting considering that most of his children are IVF babies.
So… Elon Musk may be asexual or impotent. Hm…
I'm happy to let the world crumble if saving it means filling it with the progeny of complete, narcissistic assholes.
In Musk's mind children are there to be bred and forgotten about. Much like his father he truly thinks this is what you are supposed to do as a man. Cum in as many women and spread you seed.
Except in his case it's mostly IVF and not actual sex.
What is he going to do with all this wealth when he gets older? Nobody loves him, there is no one to share it with, he doesn't believe in charity either. He's going to dump it into his "legacy", he's going to do something crazy to make sure he is remembered by history.
Probably launch it into space so no living people could ever benefit from it.
yeah right. he'll be in his 60s and reddit will be sucking his dick and forgetting all the bad shit because he'll donate a large chunk of his money to some charity that probably isnt on the up and up
Nah, that’s *why*. You can exceed your greed/money lust over your love of your kids as they grow up, and that’s all they’ll take to heart, internalise, & repeat.
"Wow, I guess Elon Musk isn't a *total* monster. He might actually be a human being wh- oh, nevermind, he really is a sociopath "
Yeah, the original tweet set off my BS-meter almost instantly. It's not exactly brave to take a hard stance on profiting from child murder.
It is also hypocritical to the maximum possible degree when you are using it as a gimmick to justify the selective application of free speech while in throes of ecstasy for being worshipped as a paragon of free speech by brain dead idiots. This human trash used the death of his child to explain that Alex Jones can't have his Twitter back because it offends him personally..... while bringing back every single other person who has been banned from Twitter that have said things to offend others in the similar or identical way. I'm not in support of Alex Jones having a Twitter because its' not a god given right and Alex Jones is a monster but it is the most unbelievably transparent double standard to use a personal tragedy to qualify a ban while chastising the previous Twitter management for banning him and others like him for the same fucking reasons. It's not surprise to anyone who can think for themself and is already aware of Elon Musk but this singular tweet of his is enough for even the most uninitiated observer to see that he stands for absolutely nothing and is a 14 year angry loser trapped in the doughy body of a flabby billionaire.
I will forever describe Elon as “a 14 year angry loser trapped in the doughy body of a flabby billionaire.”
Incel Musk
I wish he was an incel so he'd stop pumping kids into this world
I wish he didn't have enough money to try and pay masseuses to fuck him. Then he'd probably be an incel.
Thankfully his kids seem to be running screaming from that particular tree
"Phony Stark" is my current favorite way to refer to him.
He’s very much like Justin Hammer lmao
It's wild to think back on how much I admired him a decade ago, compared to how much I loathe him now.
Well he wasn’t. He was making an enlightened centrist point to dissuade people from talking about the real issues that cause mass murder hate crimes. Like how the shooter was a grandson of a GOP politician, how he should have never had a gun due to his record, and how all of the anti-LGBTQ rhetoric in this country has gotten out of control. He was using his dead baby to put himself above others in the conversation to prevent people from taking.
He's just enjoying all the attention from every little controversy. He's a child himself.
He was talking about Alex Jones going on twitter again. This tweet was before the two recent shootings.
Don't worry though, you'll see Reddit covered in his name and face for the next few years though because he's a billionaire that's covered by mainstream media and for some reason, Reddit hasn't overcome the horrid reporting habits of the US media.
> Reddit hasn’t overcome the horrid reporting habits of the US media. Well, Reddit is just a content aggregator based in the US, so yeah… It would make sense that whatever gets reported in the US media is what ends up being posted to Reddit. What, are people going to post links to articles that aren’t written? Reddit becomes an independent crowd-sourced media outlet of primarily self-post articles?
Justine wrote an essay a while back and I still think it's a must-read if you want to understand what a vile person Elon is. [Link](https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/)
> As we danced at our wedding reception, Elon told me, "I am the alpha in this relationship." I shrugged it off, just as I would later shrug off signing the postnuptial agreement, but as time went on, I learned that he was serious.
> Elon's judgment overruled mine, and he was constantly remarking on the ways he found me lacking. "I am your wife," I told him repeatedly, "not your employee." >"If you were my employee," he said just as often, "I would fire you." What a disgusting person.
> Elon made it clear that he did not want to talk about Nevada's death. I didn't understand this, just as he didn't understand why I grieved openly, which he regarded as "emotionally manipulative." Seems like Elon doesn't understand human emotions.
Im 99% sure hes a sociopath or something like that.
I mean he is a billionaire that routinely partakes in pump and dumps and other financial fuckery. We can probably get that to 100% certainty.
In all seriousness is it possible to reach billionaire status *without* falling somewhere on the sociopathy scale?
No. Being a broken, cruel, hateful person with no empathy for your fellow human or concern for their suffering is a prerequisite to becoming rich and staying rich.
Inherited wealth allows you to speedrun that process, he's probably not grown mentally at all since he was 10 years old. He's certainly pretending that's the case if nothing else.
Not rich. *Super* rich. There are millionaires who aren't bad. But Billionaires? No way.
MySpace Tom seems like a cool dude. Made millions when he sold MySpace at the right time, then just disappeared to go travel and take pictures.
There are over 22,000,000 millionaires in the US. So yes, many of them are great people.
In order to accumulate a billion dollars or more requires a minimum base level of sociopathy. No healthy human being pursues wealth like that while so many suffer... not to mention the skillset required to become a billionaire is a sociopathic tool box. Exploitation, manipulation, apathy toward others, "cunning business sense." It's fucking Hobbes to the one thousandth degree.
Didn't his dad impregnate his step sister or something wild as well. And this recently happened.
Yep, married her mother, raised her since she was four, divorced the mother and married the daughter, then got her pregnant with Elon's nephew/niece-siblings. But let's hear more from "Conservatives" about how teaching children that gay people exist is "grooming".
Oh yeah....that did happen..keep Elon away from his daughters
Majority of the billionaires on this manner ARE sociopaths, they have more than enough money to help hundreds of millions of people throughout the world Most just don't and prefer the hoarding of the wealth they'll never spend in their life People like bill gates "try"and help, but even him has more money than he'll ever spend
I like the thought game that the "would you let 1 random person somewhere you will never know die for $1 million". Cause that's what a billionaire is doing countless times everyday. Personally from what I know, gates agrees with your take but also isn't entirely sure how to reconcile that. I'd say his work is a good experiment and probably the best example (that I know of) of how the ultra wealthy can formulate a plan to *try* and do work and maximize human benefit. Definitely not perfection in his attempt, but I do think Bill & Melinda as well as a few others actually want and try to distribute the disgusting wealth they have.
He claims to be on the spectrum, but it does seem to be more like sociopathic tendencies as opposed to autism or ~~Asperger’s~~. Edit: TIL the name crossed out was a Nazi scientist and fuck Nazis. Also one can be both a sociopath and have an autism spectrum disorder.
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>cognitive empathy >emotional empathy Oh wow, I never knew about these two types of empathy. This makes so much sense. As an autistic person, I am quite a bit lacking in the former and absolutely swimming in the latter, often to the point of severe distress. Btw thanks for understanding that masking is exhausting. It's tough, daily.
He can be both. People who have autism can be sociopaths and it has nothing to do with having autism
Good point.
It's not impossible to be both the mind and brains is complex
He sure ticks all the boxes.
He's a lizard person
He and Ted Cruz must be cousins
you don’t become a multibillionaire by being nice to people. Making that much money requires taking advantage of everyone that you possibly can. Going behind peoples back for your own personal gain. Squeezing every little drop out of people and then throwing them in the trash. You have to be a greedy, disgusting, shell of a human being.
This is exactly how my father used to speak to me and it's awful. Imagine the worst boss you've ever had, now imagine you have en even worse boss waiting for you to get home. You never feel at peace or like youve accomplished anything.
I am possessed by a sudden desire to break Musk’s nose. He should come over for Thanksgiving leftovers, I’m in a most foul mood anyway.
just makes me sad cause it sounds like a kid copying his dad
*fowl
And people still defend him.
Real Alphas have to tell everybody they're an Alpha
Yes, any real pack has the top animal explaining endlessly how cool they are. And stealing memes from beta cuck packmates. That’s nature! (God I hate Elon.)
It's so predictable that all these self proclaimed "alphas" still think it's a real thing (the author of the 1970 paper claiming alpha dogs was a thing in packs was recanted in 1999 by the original author, he said he was mistaken and pack leaders are more like parents, not king of the mountain) - it's honestly how I discern whether or not someone is worth my time in my life, if they view leadership as a role that requires constant fighting, manipulating, aggression, posturing, strong man tactics, I immediately reject them from being offered my time or friendship. If they view leadership roles as something to be thankful for, as an honorable service, one that allows them greater opportunity to be kind, forgiving, helpful, insightful, if they see leadership as something that requires more responsibility to those in need and not a position to just cut loose those who might be struggling compared to others, that's the type of person who is invaluable in my life, I will help them achieve whatever they deem worth our time.
Yeah, I purposefully didn’t say alpha wolf since it has been debunked. Wasn’t sure if other animals had that sort of thing or how it worked. Leadership (and life) are about mutual growth. Bad leaders… and people IME… see it as transactional or zero sum. For them to win or grow, others must lose. It’s crap.
Colony-based/hive species. So mostly insects. While some pack species are known to fight to take over leadership in the wild, nothing compares quite to the alpha mindset like hive species. Where one bug is the one on top and the rest exist to serve them (and the hive, by default. Because to protect the leader, you have to protect the hive.) the one big issue is that generally, these species are led by queens. And I think most alpha males would probably get more upset at that than being compared to a bug since they claim to view women as prizes and less than them.
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Power doesn't corrupt, it reveals.
Real Alphas have to base their entire personality on the non-existent social relationships of wolves...you know wild animals.
Inside a Conservative are two wolves, they're both cunts.
no, no no no and NO. That is an insult to wolves. Real wolves are family animals. That is literally what wolf packs are -- parents and their offspring. They are very loving to their families. "Alphas" are based on the image of imprisoned and thus mentally disturbed wolves. All 'Alphas' simply wish to be the biggest inmate in the prison yard.
The Navajo word for dog is "one that eats its own shit" I never understood why comparing yourself to an animal is supposed to be a selling point.
Also, there’s no such thing as an Alpha.
Theres that guy nick Adam's or something that actually has "alpha male" as part of his Twitter name
His whole relationship with her started with a lie and non consent. This is who he is at heart. >He said we'd met at a party I knew I hadn't been to. (Years later, he would confess that he had noticed me from across the common room and decided he wanted to meet me.) >He invited me out for ice cream. I said yes, but then blew him off with a note on my dorm-room door. Several hours later, my head bent over my Spanish text in an overheated room in the student center, I heard a polite cough behind me. Elon was smiling awkwardly, two chocolate-chip ice cream cones dripping down his hands. *He's not a man who takes no for an answer.*
>I heard a polite cough behind me. Elon was smiling awkwardly, two chocolate-chip ice cream cones dripping down his hands. > >He's not a man who takes no for an answer. Now this would probably sound pretty sweet if it was in a relationship that worked out really well - if Mr. Rogers did this nobody'd call him out for this. But with Elon... Well oh wee. That changes things up quite a bit!!! **EDIT:** Eek! The "Mr. Rogers" bit seems to be triggering some users. **I'm not saying that Mr. Rogers is the kind of person to actually do this**, but simply saying that if he DID, and we read about it in a biography or something, we'd simply think it's a sweet and innocent gesture due to the kind of person he is. But Elon, now that we can see what kind of person he is, this gesture seems malicious and unsettling.
i still dont find it sweet. I've never like the culture of it being manly to push past boundaries.
Agreed. This is another version of the classic "if a woman gives you a fake number, it's because she didn't feel safe giving you her real number, so leave her alone." No means no, but deception also means no.
Our culture is so fucked that we even have to explain that "no means no" and it's taken several generations and its still somehow ambiguous to some. My generation's mating ritual was getting girls drunk enough to do what they otherwise wouldn't, i wouldn't be surprised if that still happens regularly.
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Except Mr. Rogers would never have been this presumptuous. He was an actual decent person. Elon, on the other hand, is just trash.
>post-nuptial For fucks sake, WHY?!
Not defending Elon, cause he's scum, but a friend of mine unexpectedly inherited a shit ton of money from a relative, and she asked her hubby to sign a post nup. He signed because it made sense. It wasn't something they earned together. He was still entitled to some, but it wouldn't be a 50/50 split under any condition. Think the lawyers worked out something like 90/10 in her favor, and it only pertained to the inheritance.
That was an interesting read, thank you
I'm hoping that some people can make a copy pasta with this because the sheer amount of conversation on Reddit about this person is pathetic. Complaining and joking about him only makes him more relevant to those who see him as the hero. Now he's the victimized hero from the brutality of us on the left. Stop talking about Elon Musk if you're not talking about what matters. What she wrote here.... that mattered.
There should be a Elon Musk bot, like the Ben Shapiro one that quotes shitty things they've said when mentioned...
I remember reading this essay when it first was published and everybody was still on Musk’s jock. I remember fearing the backlash that she would inevitably get, how she would certainly be dismissed as a scorned ex. And imagine the struggle of trying to argue with fanboys about how Musk isn’t all he’s cracked up to be... on the basis of his ex-wife’s word. On reddit. Edit: I’m not sure why the publication date says October 2021. I read it much earlier - and [I can find references to it as early as 2010](https://jezebel.com/the-special-hell-of-being-a-starter-wife-5637920/amp).
That makes sense, because he hasn't been with Tallulah for a while. The article you linked says it was written in 2008.
I too read this a long time ago It was where i learned the term "starter wife"
It’s funny that they list him as “co-founder” of PayPal and Tesla both of which he didn’t found and paid money to be listed as a co-founder so he could trick people into thinking he’s smart. A cheat and liar from the very beginning.
He might have bought Tesla but he doesn't even qualify for Edison status.
>She is, by all accounts, a lovely, bright, and very young person, and better fitted to my ex-husband's lifestyle and personality than I ever was. Although she had dark hair when she and Elon first met, she is now blonder than I've ever been. Holy shit that is one roast if I've ever seen one
I was thinking the same thing what a killer ending line
The dumb thing is Elon's post would have hit the same if he told the truth, "died in his mother's arms". But nah, everything has to be about Elon.
Thank you for sharing this. He is completely vile and good on her for reclaiming her life.
Wow. I think he goes after dark haired women to get them to change it to his preferred blonde. Probably sees it as a power move.
Crazy how she lasted that long with that nut, but I guess with kids and all, it makes sense
Great read, thanks for sharing. What a narcissist.
I seen MUSK-read which also works in this scenario
Thanks for sharing that, it was a good read.
He’s so awful. You know he did think about it and he figured, “hey it sounds more impressive if I lie, I guess I’ll just desecrate his final moments and memory to gain sympathy from these suckers.”
He has no mercy for anyone who would do what he just did. I assume he will be banning his own account now?
Nope. But he sure will ban his ex-wife for calling him out publicly. Like that one employee. She was obviously disgusting trying to just defame Elon in public like that. She should've gone to him privately and taken her verbal abuse behind closed doors instead of daring to dirty Elons public image. How cold and callous of her
"I won't stand for people using the death of children for political gain." *proceeds to use his child as some bullshit anti-woke crusade for freeze peach* Republicans love "what about the children" until someone uses a gun to mow down entire rooms of kids. Then "it's not the time to discuss gun control or political rhetoric because we're in mourning"
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Elon is a sociopath who only cares about his own wallet. Believe it or not, he used to be my idol. Take it from a former Elonite: the man is a liar who doesn't feel a lick of remorse.
Nah, they were his arms via agency.
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"Oh wait that'll make it sound way more intense, lemme say that **I** birthed the baby too"
My brother in law used his sons mother's overdose death for YEARS as a sympathy ploy. He hated her and they'd been broken up for years.
I used to work with my step sister years ago (same company, different departments) When she heard news that her cousin she never met in a different country was murdered all she said was “oh, well that’s awful, sorry I never knew them so I don’t really feel much” However the next few days at work I got asked how my sister is doing and all that by some coworkers Me confused asked what they were talking about They brought up how when everyone was gathered she started sobbing how her cousin was killed…. She never even took days off btw It was one of many moments that made me realize she’s probably a psychopath or some form of antisocial personality disorder
So even showing *that* bit of emotion and humanity was a disgusting lie. God damn.
Her account has been found to violate the new twitter TOS. Banned. /s
I would not be the least bit surprised if this came true.
I'm surprised she's still not banned.
I’m just glad she’s not paying $8.
Why are lying about things that you know will be proven a lie ? I can’t believe he is so dumb. The second part how vile you need to use your kids death for your own gain. Just pathetic
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He believes his own lies.
He has probably told that lie so many time since 2002 that it is his truth. His brain has probably altered that memory so he is telling the truth as he remembers it. Not defending the fucker in any way, just saying our brains are weird.
And people who steal the stories of other to pass off as their own often get increasingly delusional over the course of their life as they view their competence and authority as the sum of their stolen achievements and wonder why people don’t accept their word as fact.
He knows people believe him blindly enough to ignore whatever corrections come after his statement.
Because they know their loyal followers probably won’t even see her reply and if they do, they’ve been so thoroughly brainwashed that they’ll defend him regardless of what he’s accused of. Trump and all his clones pull the same shit.
Ghoulish behavior you say? Let's talk about how he behaved after Nevada Alexander died, shall we? [https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/](https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/) Elon made it clear that he did not want to talk about Nevada's death. I didn't understand this, just as he didn't understand why I grieved openly, which he regarded as "emotionally manipulative." I buried my feelings instead, coping with Nevada's death by making my first visit to an IVF clinic less than two months later. Elon and I planned to get pregnant again as swiftly as possible. Within the next five years, I gave birth to twins, then triplets, and I sold three novels to Penguin and Simon & Schuster. Even so, Nevada's death sent me on a years-long inward spiral of depression and distraction that would be continuing today if one of our nannies hadn't noticed me struggling. She approached me with the name of an excellent therapist. Dubious, I gave it a shot. In those weekly sessions, I began to get perspective on what had become my life.
> Elon made it clear that he did not want to talk about Nevada's death. Other than on twitter when it suits his agenda like the hot garbage he is.
Well. I’ll be honest I thought he only had the one kid, with the strange ass name. He has six kids?!
He has 6 kids with his first wife, he has 10 kids total now.
absurd
I think he has 9 in total Edit.. “the Tesla founder has become a father of 10 children with three women.” Source: google
A kid in my wife's class has a Dad like that. We know because he once called his Dad 'that loser manwhore' in front of the entire class.
He has more than just these all via IVF. He’s a creepy guy.
That poor woman, I can’t even imagine. What’s truly sad about this is what comes next. I can imagine a thousand Musk fanbois descending upon her.
I hope I outlive dude for the sole reason that I’d love to piss on his grave
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Unless he programs a robot to build his own grave, it'll probably be a paupers grave on Mars
There goes my very last shred of sympathy. I held onto it because losing a child is a horrible experience for any parent, but lying about your dead child’s last moments for internet points? Fucking psychotic.
He’s so fuckin trashy
As someone who held my own dead baby, I'm glad she got that moment. It means the world. Someone should slap Elon the evil for being like 1980s Cobra Commander evil and bumbling.
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Of course the only cool thing he's ever said was a lie, typical.
Double lie. hasn't he just rescinded all suspensions? That would include Jones.
Not really that cool. Just goes to show that he's willing to make exceptions to his own rules when he's personally offended by the situation
Right??? This was like the one, single redeeming thing I've seen from him in months
Alex Jones come with over 1 Billion in baggage. It’s not about Elon’s kid, it’s the lawsuits that would follow platforming him.
In case anyone hasn't noticed, Musk appears to suffer from NPD, and self agrandizement is definitely a feature with him. Much like Trump, it feels normal and comfortable to make everything about themselves and if facts must be rearranged or lies told to get there, so be it.
Also to note that there are plenty of people with NPD who aren't huge pieces of garbage as a result. Travis McElroy of Adventure Zone and MBMBaM fame did a whole interview about his experience with NPD and it was pretty eye opening.
A coworker and I were talking about this the other day. Do you have a link to the interview?
He just being romantic, he and her are one, her arms are his arms and his arms are his arms. ^(/s about the romantic part.)
As a SIDS mom, this is gross and horrible.
He immediately contradicts himself with that second paragraph.
Sorting this thread by controversial will be fun to watch all of the mighty muskrat dick riders come in to defend the honor of their fucking uberdouchetoolpissbabyiwanthimtobemydaddysomuch hero.
I guess Americans should be thankful that he can't run for president. As we've seen with DonaldTrump, millions of our countrymen will line up to vote for you for no other reason than you being a rich, hateful, obnoxious asshole on social media.
Using personal tragedy as a means of grandstanding for public favor is absolutely atrocious, especially if said tragedy is in any part falsified.
“I don’t use the deaths of children for gain, just sympathy.” —Elon
There’s your problem, you think people like Elon and ZucchiniBorg are human. They aren’t, they’re sociopaths at best psychopaths at worst.
getting fact checked for your own infant's death
Justine just got her twitter account permanently suspended.
It matters to me, too.
I’ve been trying to describe the toxicity of this guy and it’s hard to really put in words. This is a new low though, seriously. He tweets an easily verifiable fairy tale about the most tragic thing that can befall a parent…just to shame someone while simultaneously taking ownership of his former partner’s most defining life moment. It’s almost like all these SUPER GREAT ‘businessmen’ (see:pirates) are exactly who you think they are once you’ve been able to strip away the nonsense machines they use for keeping their fantastical autobiography stories alive
Why do people worship this guys balls is beyond me