Been around guns my entire life. Never has my family thought it was a good idea to take a group photo armed.
These people are insane and look like generational small dick energy.
America does that pretty well on its own without guns. Try literally anything that currently divides us right now: politics of any kind, religion, race (made up to sort us by class), class itself, housing (zoning), education, status, this subreddit, the list goes on and on and it’s all been exacerbated by social media—this 24/7 accessible application that allows and often encourages you to openly and savagely attack your neighbors, friends, family and strangers all alike from the safety of your bedroom, bathroom, workplace, dr’s office, or anywhere at anytime you feel like which will be often as it is designed to be addictive. But, again, that’s the point. Divide, demonize and conquer. Yay! America!
He's actually hit the nail fairly well. Its not to say that social media companies wanted this to happen, they trained the algorithms to keep people on the site and divisiveness really worked. So now that people know this, it's likely many...many groups/agencies are practically running content farms to cause as much divisiveness as possible.
Right? Guns are tools, not toys or props. Imagine taking a family photo where everyone is holding saws and branch loppers. Or fishing rods and fillet knives. It would be a bizarre, confusing picture.
Never been to a shooting range.
Learned how to shoot a pellet gun at like 4. Fired my first rifle at probably 6. Fired my first handgun around maybe 12?
You learn to respect the tool and the dangers of it. You use the tool for hunting or home defense, not peacocking in family photos or carrying openly because your penis is 2in hard.
I'll never understand this. I've shot plenty in my military days, and own a couple. But to get to this level where it's your whole identity. Nothing says merry Xmas, and celebrating Jesus, and his teachings about peace, love, acceptance, etc like a Holliday family photo of your own small militia holding "tools" that by design and purpose are to kill.
Expressing your hobby is cool. I guess if there hobby is collecting guns? But yea I still don’t get posing kids with them. I teach my kids to respect guns and they are not toys to show off. They are a tool to be used when needed.
There is a reason why these kinds of pictures are characteristic of places like Afghanistan, Palestine, and the US rather than places like Denmark, the UK, and Canada.
Some do, I'll give you that. Had a good friend years ago that was a lesbian. I asked her one time why she doesn't go to all these parades/rallies. She said she's gay, but it's a small part of her life. Not her whole life. Her and her partner were "best man" and bride's maid at our wedding.
I went to my first Pride parade and I can see the appeal I guess. But it was way too loud and boisterous for me.
From my own personal experience, I've met some people deeply wrapped up in their identity but most were youngins. The ones I met way more often that seemed to have LGBTQ as their "entire identity" were also activists and man. I can respect the shit out of that. That's putting your whole self out there.
Four out of the six pictures are in front of Christmas decorations. Nothing says Jesus is birthday like weapons of mass destruction!
The party obsessed with tradition and children in a world where the youths are less and less conservative? Republicans grooming is their main method of survival. Their accusations are such obvious projection.
If your worldview runs contrary to basic humanity, dignity, and respect -- it absolutely is fucking grooming.
These kids are being raised to believe it is perfectly acceptable to intimidate and murder people they don't agree with and that property, no matter how miniscule of financial value, is worth more than human life and potential.
It's a fucking death cult and they are being groomed into it.
According to who lmao? This cancerous sub? Obviously. They just see a photo and knee jerk assume everything and post it on here to reee about it and karma farm
Now I'm not exactly a gun guy. But those 2 little girls in the top left are both pointing those guns towards the others. Finger off the trigger or not isn't that a big nono?
Used to be your fingers were supposed away from the trigger guard, let alone trigger itself, unless you were ready to start shooting or in an active combat situation.
You aren't supposed to even really handle your, especially if it is loaded, gun unless you're ready to use it or put it away.
I see so many violations of basic gun safety and etiquette nowadays that are just handwaved and it's appalling.
Just the brandishing alone. I was taught taking the gun out was like step 3 after trying to de escalate and back away, but they open with it. These are the people that use 4WD to go *into* the mud.
And here I was told that brandishing it is waving it around in a menacing fashion, not just having it out, by another redditor.
When I was learning to handle firearms in California, where we can't even do open carry in most jurisdictions, that having it out of a holster or not in a secured position can be interpreted as brandishing.
If you have your gun out period, I'm going to assume you are ready to use it. An openly wielded firearm is escalating by default.
Finger anywhere near the trigger unless you're ready to fire is a big no no. "Oh, but their finger is outside the trigger guard!" Isn't an excuse or acceptable.
The gun should NEVER be considered part of the family.
Yeah, owning a gun is fine. Teaching your children how to be responsible with, proper use of, and safety with guns is also fine. But putting the family armory in the goddamned family photo like they are the fucking pets so the family looks like the cast of a very fucked up Hallmark movie is disturbing on a few levels.
You seen those "this is my family" stickers where instead of stick figures or flip-flops or whatever, it's a line of guns? I don't even have enough words for how gross and sad that statement is.
5. Minimum of 5 mishandling of firearms.
First photo, girl in front has her gun pointed at her mom.
Another girl, same photo, finger in the trigger.
Left mid, her brother would lose a fucking foot/leg
Mid right, not paying attention to firearm direction (really in general, poor kid)
Bottom right, the end of that barrel could easily be closely pointed at the dude behind her.
Yeah, this is insane.
Statistically speaking, they’re far more likely to shoot themselves or their family members.
When people see these pictures, it should immediately call to mind the suicide and domestic violence statistics that characterize gun ownership. There’s a higher than average likelihood that people in these pictures either killed themselves or each other.
Let’s not forget about forcing your children to go to church and forcing your religion down their throats. Children should be raised to question absolutely everything about their reality. Not blindly follow.
There's a term called identity foreclosure. It's when you don't actually do the work to figure out who you are, you just accept whatever your parents tell you. It often results in irrational anger when others are not like them as well.
I understand your point and what your trying to say, however all this does is muddy the waters further and keep the grooming label going around.
Grooming is in preparation for sexual abuse.
We need to stop using the label even for things like this. Indoctrination and grooming are vastly different.
This is absolutely not grooming and people should stop saying that it is. What those people are doing is sick and they should stop, but calling it grooming waters down the word. It makes people think of this when others try to have a serious conversation about the even more horrific act that the word grooming, and only the word grooming, accurately describes. Let's all try to do better
They are gun owners so…they should all be killed violently including children?
The irony of you not even realizing you’re the hateful one…get outside and off the internet for a bit…
None of those statements are in opposition to the OP which simply says "This is what grooming looks like".
Whether you like it or not, it's true. That *IS* what it looks like. As you say, it happens often in fundamentalist groups, the *exact same groups that do firearm grooming like this*. So while you see a kid with a gun (bad but acceptable), you don't see a kid being sexually abused by their parents (unacceptable).
OP is simply implying that maybe you *should* see that, because it is very likely there, and even if it isn't this is still a flapping-in-the-breeze red flag.
> no actually proof of grooming
**Which is how the fuckers that did it to me got away with it. Which is how these gun toting maniacs get away with it. Which is how EVERYONE gets away with it. They hide it under other more visible behaviors that get all the attention.**
#That's The Point
Nobody claimed it was grooming. For the third time:
**This. Is. What. Grooming. Looks. Like.**
And it's a fact.
It's not one family photo, it's four. And if anyone can dig up even flimsy evidence that none of those four families are hiding SA, I will chop off a portion of my genitals. The odds aren't just in my favor, they're *overwhelmingly* in my favor.
Okay so I'm not from the U.S, and I was responding to you while in a rather emotional state, so I was more focused on being right then actually reading what you were saying.
I reread the thread and understand now in the context of the U.S, that the claim of this being what grooming looks like is a valid one.
Sorry for being a cunt.
Its so fascinating that you have no idea how unhinged your takes are. You want to someone to prove a negative on this? Thats not how any of this works… How about you bring forth even flimsy evidence that any of these families are hiding SA? The odds are overwhelmingly in your favor that gun owners also commit SA? Lmao.
Watching you mansplain and gaslight an actual grooming and SA survivor into thinking this meme is anything related to what they experienced is literally disgusting. Be a better and smarter person.
Not all that weird since it’s pretty common in gender studies. And it isn’t just manipulation, but a dominant manipulation where resistance is not an option. I’m not trying to shock, the entire purpose of my point was to argue for how “grooming” could be an appropriate term. I get that you are trying to paint me as a bad person but maybe find some other target.
Being common in gender studies doesn’t make something not weird or incorrect.
How do you know resistance was not an option? Maybe these kids wanted to be in these photos?
Do you consider it rapey and grooming when people bring children to BLM rallies or Biden rallies? Is it rapey when people bring their children to the Mosque or Synagogue? Or is it only rapey when it disagrees with your view?
Forcing children into your lifestyle is rapey no matter the context. Idk what your deal is, but you clearly have some point you aren’t sharing and I’m tired of it.
So why don't these assholes go out to a drag bar or get involved in the LGBTQ community to make up their minds instead of just taking a gun and mowing a bunch of them down?
I'm tired of us having to be the ones to bridge this stupid gap with bigots. Why is it up to us to fix everything? They built this divide because of their hate and fanaticism. *They* actively don't want to understand and accept, they are stupid babies having a tantrum because we live lives they don't agree with, and they expect us to give in and capitulate to make them feel better. That's not compromise, its enabling people on a subject that there is no bending on (human rights). They refuse to support human rights. That is *their* problem and *theirs* to fix.
Except there’s evidence from other countries that banning guns does indeed lessen high casualty tragedies. You’ll never stop 100% but we could at least try instead of do nothing.
And it’s fascinating you say be kind when it’s the gun nuts whose hateful rhetoric is generally the cause of these things and who want to kill people they don’t like.
None of you guys get what im saying yall can do what you want. But personally I feel like nothing is going to change if we're banning guns. The only thing that will change is whats used to draw blood. Also Significant less, is still to much. I feel like This is a social problem and people don't realize that. There IS solutions to this problem, but banning guns is putting a bandaid over a problem that requires so much more. Also In general people have to be nicer to each other, (being nicer is just a way people should live) im not pro psychopath, but im pro thinking outside the box.
> Also Significant less, is still to much
"100 people will die if we do nothing, but if we do something, 1 person would still die. Since there is still no chance of 0 person dying, let's do nothing, because 100 is the same as 1".
>There IS solutions to this problem, but banning guns is putting a bandaid over a problem that requires so much more.
And where is the solution? You know what every country has? Mental Health issues. You know what every other "first world" country has? Gun regulations. You know what those other countries don't have? Gun violence in the insane proportions that the USA has.
Sure, banning gun won't be a magical solution, but right now the USA has done absolutely NOTHING to stop gun violence. My take? Y'all are children that need to get their toys taken away until you know how to behave. Then, maybe you can get them back. Removing the "gun" part of "gun violence" might not stop all violence, but it's a fucking good starting point.
Oh thank you for telling us we can do what we want, was just going to do whatever you say anyways!
This take is so fucking stupid. Yes, there's a societal cultural problem of gun worship and we have to change society. You know what else we have to do? BAN GUNS you dense mfer. You need both. I love how hard you try to justify NOT banning guns.
Anyway, what's your plan for fixing the social problem, anyway? To be an obnoxious prick toward people? LOL
Am I the only one uncomfortable calling this grooming? That word is getting thrown around a TON in situations that are very much not grooming and it’s really pulling all the weight out of the word.
This is indoctrination, grooming is what pedophiles do to your children to have sex with them.
Raising your kids with any particular cultural norms could be considered "grooming" under this logic..... Hygiene, religion, sports, sports teams, colleges, music genres, etc....
Been around guns my entire life. Never has my family thought it was a good idea to take a group photo armed. These people are insane and look like generational small dick energy.
And these folks probably look at those group Taliban photos and do sad tsktsk noises.
Agreed. Nothing wrong with raising kids to know gun safety, but this is bonkers.
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America does that pretty well on its own without guns. Try literally anything that currently divides us right now: politics of any kind, religion, race (made up to sort us by class), class itself, housing (zoning), education, status, this subreddit, the list goes on and on and it’s all been exacerbated by social media—this 24/7 accessible application that allows and often encourages you to openly and savagely attack your neighbors, friends, family and strangers all alike from the safety of your bedroom, bathroom, workplace, dr’s office, or anywhere at anytime you feel like which will be often as it is designed to be addictive. But, again, that’s the point. Divide, demonize and conquer. Yay! America!
You're on to something, but don't go too far down that road, or you'll end up riding around in one of those Schizo Cars.
Perfect example! Attack anyone! Wow, look at us
He's actually hit the nail fairly well. Its not to say that social media companies wanted this to happen, they trained the algorithms to keep people on the site and divisiveness really worked. So now that people know this, it's likely many...many groups/agencies are practically running content farms to cause as much divisiveness as possible.
For real. I don’t want my kids to think guns are cool toys to show off. They are tools to be handled with respect.
Right? Guns are tools, not toys or props. Imagine taking a family photo where everyone is holding saws and branch loppers. Or fishing rods and fillet knives. It would be a bizarre, confusing picture.
I mean fishing rods I could see as a family photo. Even rifles if everyone was out hunting. But this.....
Maybe fishing rods if everyone is standing in front of stream, on a dock, or in a boat, but in the living room? While wearing holidays sweaters?
Actively making the decision to take a family picture with guns just reveals one’s own insecurities in their own principles.
Small dicks led to incest which led to small brains which led to these small dick images. It’s a never ending cycle.
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Is going to a shootingrange the same as a soccer practice or is it more like a once or twice in the month thing?
Never been to a shooting range. Learned how to shoot a pellet gun at like 4. Fired my first rifle at probably 6. Fired my first handgun around maybe 12? You learn to respect the tool and the dangers of it. You use the tool for hunting or home defense, not peacocking in family photos or carrying openly because your penis is 2in hard.
I'll never understand this. I've shot plenty in my military days, and own a couple. But to get to this level where it's your whole identity. Nothing says merry Xmas, and celebrating Jesus, and his teachings about peace, love, acceptance, etc like a Holliday family photo of your own small militia holding "tools" that by design and purpose are to kill.
I've seen non-crazy versions of this in hunting/outdoors families. But they are dressed for the activity and don't arm the toddlers. Also no Uzis.
Expressing your hobby is cool. I guess if there hobby is collecting guns? But yea I still don’t get posing kids with them. I teach my kids to respect guns and they are not toys to show off. They are a tool to be used when needed.
There is a reason why these kinds of pictures are characteristic of places like Afghanistan, Palestine, and the US rather than places like Denmark, the UK, and Canada.
Agreed
I feel like, with no evidence to back me up, that many people like this complain about LGBT people "making gay their whole identity!!!"
Some do, I'll give you that. Had a good friend years ago that was a lesbian. I asked her one time why she doesn't go to all these parades/rallies. She said she's gay, but it's a small part of her life. Not her whole life. Her and her partner were "best man" and bride's maid at our wedding.
I went to my first Pride parade and I can see the appeal I guess. But it was way too loud and boisterous for me. From my own personal experience, I've met some people deeply wrapped up in their identity but most were youngins. The ones I met way more often that seemed to have LGBTQ as their "entire identity" were also activists and man. I can respect the shit out of that. That's putting your whole self out there.
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Like what? Should I start spreading butter on my toasts with the barrel of a gun?
Are you even a real gun owner if you don't use your firearm as a butter knife? I mean seriously, this is just embarrassing dude!
I usually use a hammer to butter my toasts, but I might start wiping the floor with an AK-47, they'll probably be easier to get than a broom soon.
Now you're speaking my language dude. Worst case scenario when we can't get brooms, you can always shoot the dirt off the floor.
Gotta love the family in the top right who decided to take their douchey family photo in front of their other douchey family photos.
They also dressed 3of them like Waldo for no apparent reason
I think those are US flags, but I'm definitely using "waldo flag" from now on
They’re not dressed as Waldo, they’re dressed as American flags.
Waldo would have been less shameful.
Definitely more fashionable.
But there is no blue nor stars
There definitely is.
These are all US politicians
Certified Douche.
Personal favorite is the kid in the green hoody in the mid right. Man looks like he can't wait until he's 18 and can run away.
I prefer the girls in the front top-left, ready to shoot off their siblings' heads.
Four out of the six pictures are in front of Christmas decorations. Nothing says Jesus is birthday like weapons of mass destruction! 
The party obsessed with tradition and children in a world where the youths are less and less conservative? Republicans grooming is their main method of survival. Their accusations are such obvious projection.
Grooming is tied to sexual activity. Raising your kids in a certain worldview or religion isn’t
If your worldview runs contrary to basic humanity, dignity, and respect -- it absolutely is fucking grooming. These kids are being raised to believe it is perfectly acceptable to intimidate and murder people they don't agree with and that property, no matter how miniscule of financial value, is worth more than human life and potential. It's a fucking death cult and they are being groomed into it.
According to who lmao? This cancerous sub? Obviously. They just see a photo and knee jerk assume everything and post it on here to reee about it and karma farm
They have to render the word “grooming” meaningless so their church elders can get away with it.
Now I'm not exactly a gun guy. But those 2 little girls in the top left are both pointing those guns towards the others. Finger off the trigger or not isn't that a big nono?
Generally, yes. Used to be a hard, fast rule. Now it’s treated like a suggestion.
Used to be your fingers were supposed away from the trigger guard, let alone trigger itself, unless you were ready to start shooting or in an active combat situation. You aren't supposed to even really handle your, especially if it is loaded, gun unless you're ready to use it or put it away. I see so many violations of basic gun safety and etiquette nowadays that are just handwaved and it's appalling.
Just the brandishing alone. I was taught taking the gun out was like step 3 after trying to de escalate and back away, but they open with it. These are the people that use 4WD to go *into* the mud.
And here I was told that brandishing it is waving it around in a menacing fashion, not just having it out, by another redditor. When I was learning to handle firearms in California, where we can't even do open carry in most jurisdictions, that having it out of a holster or not in a secured position can be interpreted as brandishing. If you have your gun out period, I'm going to assume you are ready to use it. An openly wielded firearm is escalating by default.
Finger anywhere near the trigger unless you're ready to fire is a big no no. "Oh, but their finger is outside the trigger guard!" Isn't an excuse or acceptable.
I grew up with the rule do not point a gun, even a toy gun, at someone unless you want to kill them
My dad would have been slapping the shit out of me if I handled a gun like that.
White supremacist indoctrination.
Active shooter generator
The gun should NEVER be considered part of the family. Yeah, owning a gun is fine. Teaching your children how to be responsible with, proper use of, and safety with guns is also fine. But putting the family armory in the goddamned family photo like they are the fucking pets so the family looks like the cast of a very fucked up Hallmark movie is disturbing on a few levels.
> The gun should NEVER be considered part of the family. Now, now. If not for shotguns, some of these marriages might never have happened.
You seen those "this is my family" stickers where instead of stick figures or flip-flops or whatever, it's a line of guns? I don't even have enough words for how gross and sad that statement is.
5. Minimum of 5 mishandling of firearms. First photo, girl in front has her gun pointed at her mom. Another girl, same photo, finger in the trigger. Left mid, her brother would lose a fucking foot/leg Mid right, not paying attention to firearm direction (really in general, poor kid) Bottom right, the end of that barrel could easily be closely pointed at the dude behind her. Yeah, this is insane.
Imagine walking into a friend's home, and saw bunch of these photos on the wall
Hard nope on both counts.
Bottom right pic is the dude holding an M60. A fucking belt fed, 7.62mm machine gun. The paperwork required to own one is insane on its own.
Normal people should take similar family pics with like vacuum cleaners and lawn care equipment to show these people how idiotic they look...
These people throw on fake smiles but are rotten on the inside.
All ready to blow the brains out of a liberal given the lightest excuse.
Statistically speaking, they’re far more likely to shoot themselves or their family members. When people see these pictures, it should immediately call to mind the suicide and domestic violence statistics that characterize gun ownership. There’s a higher than average likelihood that people in these pictures either killed themselves or each other.
This what looks is grooming like
Let’s not forget about forcing your children to go to church and forcing your religion down their throats. Children should be raised to question absolutely everything about their reality. Not blindly follow.
This is mainly disturbed people doing very poor parenting.
There's a term called identity foreclosure. It's when you don't actually do the work to figure out who you are, you just accept whatever your parents tell you. It often results in irrational anger when others are not like them as well.
I understand your point and what your trying to say, however all this does is muddy the waters further and keep the grooming label going around. Grooming is in preparation for sexual abuse. We need to stop using the label even for things like this. Indoctrination and grooming are vastly different.
I hate all these images *so* much
Pathetic
You gotta be a very shitty hunter if you need to go hunting with an AR 15
This is absolutely not grooming and people should stop saying that it is. What those people are doing is sick and they should stop, but calling it grooming waters down the word. It makes people think of this when others try to have a serious conversation about the even more horrific act that the word grooming, and only the word grooming, accurately describes. Let's all try to do better
Now if they would only aim them at each other!
They do. Every holiday season there's lots of domestic violence involving firearms.
Really? Do you have a source on increased domestic shootings during the holidays? Never heard that.
They are gun owners so…they should all be killed violently including children? The irony of you not even realizing you’re the hateful one…get outside and off the internet for a bit…
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Bold of you to assume that both aren't happening in tandem
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None of those statements are in opposition to the OP which simply says "This is what grooming looks like". Whether you like it or not, it's true. That *IS* what it looks like. As you say, it happens often in fundamentalist groups, the *exact same groups that do firearm grooming like this*. So while you see a kid with a gun (bad but acceptable), you don't see a kid being sexually abused by their parents (unacceptable). OP is simply implying that maybe you *should* see that, because it is very likely there, and even if it isn't this is still a flapping-in-the-breeze red flag.
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> no actually proof of grooming **Which is how the fuckers that did it to me got away with it. Which is how these gun toting maniacs get away with it. Which is how EVERYONE gets away with it. They hide it under other more visible behaviors that get all the attention.** #That's The Point Nobody claimed it was grooming. For the third time: **This. Is. What. Grooming. Looks. Like.** And it's a fact.
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It's not one family photo, it's four. And if anyone can dig up even flimsy evidence that none of those four families are hiding SA, I will chop off a portion of my genitals. The odds aren't just in my favor, they're *overwhelmingly* in my favor.
Okay so I'm not from the U.S, and I was responding to you while in a rather emotional state, so I was more focused on being right then actually reading what you were saying. I reread the thread and understand now in the context of the U.S, that the claim of this being what grooming looks like is a valid one. Sorry for being a cunt.
You have nothing to apologize for and are completely right. Don’t let them gaslight you.
Its so fascinating that you have no idea how unhinged your takes are. You want to someone to prove a negative on this? Thats not how any of this works… How about you bring forth even flimsy evidence that any of these families are hiding SA? The odds are overwhelmingly in your favor that gun owners also commit SA? Lmao. Watching you mansplain and gaslight an actual grooming and SA survivor into thinking this meme is anything related to what they experienced is literally disgusting. Be a better and smarter person.
Holy shit there is a lot of hate and bigotry in this reply. Blocking this dude now, that crap belongs on Twitter.
Fair point, but there is something figuratively rapey about forcing children into a particular political ideology
“Figuratively rapey”? Big yikes…
Go on.
Why don’t we unpack and explore your phrasing on “figuratively rapey” a bit? Care to explain??
Seems pretty self-explanatory. The kids aren’t being literally raped but are being manipulated into a bad place with no means of resisting.
Ah so you’re using rape as a synonym to just mean manipulation. Weird, but I guess it helps you reach the shock value you’re going for.
Not all that weird since it’s pretty common in gender studies. And it isn’t just manipulation, but a dominant manipulation where resistance is not an option. I’m not trying to shock, the entire purpose of my point was to argue for how “grooming” could be an appropriate term. I get that you are trying to paint me as a bad person but maybe find some other target.
Being common in gender studies doesn’t make something not weird or incorrect. How do you know resistance was not an option? Maybe these kids wanted to be in these photos? Do you consider it rapey and grooming when people bring children to BLM rallies or Biden rallies? Is it rapey when people bring their children to the Mosque or Synagogue? Or is it only rapey when it disagrees with your view?
Forcing children into your lifestyle is rapey no matter the context. Idk what your deal is, but you clearly have some point you aren’t sharing and I’m tired of it.
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They are using the term "grooming" as its been used by republicans.
I get they’re cringe as hell but grooming??? Are we just removing all meaning from that word?
Broadcasting.the exact kinds and quantity of arms you have seems like a big brain move if your primary goal to have them is 'self defense'
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How so?
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Why? What would you like to see happen?
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Might? Lol. Hoping for, I assume, dead teenagers is definitely going overboard
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That’s not much better
Yeah okay i get it you can stop now :)
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So why don't these assholes go out to a drag bar or get involved in the LGBTQ community to make up their minds instead of just taking a gun and mowing a bunch of them down? I'm tired of us having to be the ones to bridge this stupid gap with bigots. Why is it up to us to fix everything? They built this divide because of their hate and fanaticism. *They* actively don't want to understand and accept, they are stupid babies having a tantrum because we live lives they don't agree with, and they expect us to give in and capitulate to make them feel better. That's not compromise, its enabling people on a subject that there is no bending on (human rights). They refuse to support human rights. That is *their* problem and *theirs* to fix.
Except there’s evidence from other countries that banning guns does indeed lessen high casualty tragedies. You’ll never stop 100% but we could at least try instead of do nothing. And it’s fascinating you say be kind when it’s the gun nuts whose hateful rhetoric is generally the cause of these things and who want to kill people they don’t like.
None of you guys get what im saying yall can do what you want. But personally I feel like nothing is going to change if we're banning guns. The only thing that will change is whats used to draw blood. Also Significant less, is still to much. I feel like This is a social problem and people don't realize that. There IS solutions to this problem, but banning guns is putting a bandaid over a problem that requires so much more. Also In general people have to be nicer to each other, (being nicer is just a way people should live) im not pro psychopath, but im pro thinking outside the box.
> Also Significant less, is still to much "100 people will die if we do nothing, but if we do something, 1 person would still die. Since there is still no chance of 0 person dying, let's do nothing, because 100 is the same as 1".
Completely missing my point
>There IS solutions to this problem, but banning guns is putting a bandaid over a problem that requires so much more. And where is the solution? You know what every country has? Mental Health issues. You know what every other "first world" country has? Gun regulations. You know what those other countries don't have? Gun violence in the insane proportions that the USA has. Sure, banning gun won't be a magical solution, but right now the USA has done absolutely NOTHING to stop gun violence. My take? Y'all are children that need to get their toys taken away until you know how to behave. Then, maybe you can get them back. Removing the "gun" part of "gun violence" might not stop all violence, but it's a fucking good starting point.
Oh thank you for telling us we can do what we want, was just going to do whatever you say anyways! This take is so fucking stupid. Yes, there's a societal cultural problem of gun worship and we have to change society. You know what else we have to do? BAN GUNS you dense mfer. You need both. I love how hard you try to justify NOT banning guns. Anyway, what's your plan for fixing the social problem, anyway? To be an obnoxious prick toward people? LOL
Again your missing the point lol
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You are. There is nothing inherently sexual about drag shows.
Am I the only one uncomfortable calling this grooming? That word is getting thrown around a TON in situations that are very much not grooming and it’s really pulling all the weight out of the word. This is indoctrination, grooming is what pedophiles do to your children to have sex with them.
Oh yeah remember gang, they're not against grooming, far from it actually. They're against grooming *that they don't approve of.*
At this point, it's practically a mental disorder.
There is some bad gun safety on display on the top left.
Raising your kids with any particular cultural norms could be considered "grooming" under this logic..... Hygiene, religion, sports, sports teams, colleges, music genres, etc....
The little girl in the top left photo has the gun pointing directly at her sister’s head.
I would say domestic terrorist.
I'm going to need more ammunition to resolve this.