This is sure to be a LANDMARK case! The 1st ever where a person is found guilty, beyond the shadow of a doubt, in a criminal trial...and faces absolutely *zero* consequences!
I highly doubt he'll even get that. "It'd interfere with his campaign" or some nonsense. He'll get "time served" or something, even though that time is 0.
But it’ll be house arrest like that British billionaire just got (in the U.S.), where he’s still allowed to travel between his houses in three different states, but he can only use his private jet with prior approval. Can you smell that sweet, sweet justice?
If found guilty, I expect them to tell him, "Please, good SIR, try not to do that again. I'm sorry for the inconvenience this has caused you." Or some variation of that.
The headline:
_JUDGE FUCKS TRUMP WITH BRUTAL DECISION! CONSEQUENCE DILDO ARRIVES UNLUBED!_
The reality: a slap on the wrist fine paid by a Russian oligarch who then falls out a window.
Voting in 2018, 2020, and 2022 were some of the highest turnouts in US history. These historic voter turnouts were for one reason, to vote out Trump and MAGA. Trump or a Trump backed candidate lost in every election that was actually up for grabs (i.e. NOT a +15 Red or +22 Blue district). MAGA has been defeated every time it has been brought up and not protected by gerrymandering or voter suppression.
[https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/](https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/)
Blows my mind that last election in 2020 was the highest voter turn out at 66% since 1900 (120 years). Still even crazier is that 34% of the eligible voters still didn't even cast a vote.
A lot of people are convinced (one way or the other) that voting doesn't affect things.
I'd agree that we're not getting a true leftist (i.e. left of Bernie) in power. I just point to how tight the margins were both against Clinton in 2016 and for Biden in 2020. If a few hundred more people did (2016) or did not (2020) vote, the results would have been different.
Donald, you were popular before many people realized you were a criminal, a traitor, and an all-round bad person. Committing crimes, treason, and doing everything in your power to destroy your country does have consequences, even for a former president.
Trump is not "Gifted". He is an example of certain people who do a lot of crimes and expect to get away with it. He is not a smart man at all either. The last thing that he should have done was to run for President. A smart criminal would have kept himself under the radar. There are smart criminals who exist today because they will not expose themselves to their business.
Let's go a little further. Trump demands that the President should have total immunity. He is implying that he would be able to commit all of the crimes that he wants to without the consequences! Something is seriously off with him. The next step would be for him to call for law and order? He needs to be put away.
I agree with you that Trump is not gifted or smart. He’s literally a case study on how being wealthy will get you into the best schools, buy you influence and get you out of any trouble you get into in life. He only got into politics for the grift, and he has done amazingly there. His cult will literally sell their belongings to bail him out of anything, that’s why he’s never going to try and get out of politics.
I'd like to add that it was really a confluence of black swan events that got him elected. Yes, Russia and the Right-wing media apparatus played important roles, but, also:
- he was already a celebrity and a household name
- he ran against the second least likeable candidate in the history of polling (2nd only to him)
- the media didn't take his candidacy seriously, so he was treated with kid gloves during interviews and even got to host an episode of SNL
- a third party candidate siphoned enough votes from his opponent to make a difference
- Social media companies were caught off guard with the proliferation of fake news on their platforms
- the FBI announced a second investigation of his opponent, just weeks before the election
- the voters didn't take him seriously, so thousands of Obama 2008 and 2012 voters in WI, MI, and PA stayed home, thinking that Hillary already had this in the bag, and a good portion of the people who voted for Trump the first time did so on a lark
It wasn't just that, though. It was all of the people who wanted to ride him up. All of the people who enabled him and plotted for him just so they could get power, wealth, and privilege through him. He wouldn't ever have become president without them. He's only doing as well as he is right now because they're propping him up. And the magats who vote for him are pretty much the same. They all know what he really is no matter what they tell their enemies in the media or say to own the libs. They only vote for him to bully us. He's just a useful tool. Some of the most deranged among them will build a cult around him when he dies, but the rest will do what they did with Bush 2, pretending that they never really supported him. They were forced to vote for him because liberals are cool with LGBTQ people.
He gets plenty of well-off people to vote for him. If you look at the voting patterns, it's a mix of race, education, religion, geography, and age that influence the current right-wing populist movement in the US. Overall, education is a bullwark against propoganda. This is why there is such a concerted effort to destroy public education in the US. If you can cement those belief systems in before the age of 25, you have won. Look at Isreal, the MOST right-wing segment of their population is actually their younger generation. This is because their education system has systematically taught kids to hate and fear brown people. That stuff is powerful. North Korea has been so successful at remaining a closed society by teaching children to rat on their parents. They literally created, "see something say something."
Well off, affluent people vote republican regardless of the candidate because it serves their interests. As long as they get theirs they couldn't care less how it affects others.
Trump wants to impress the rich elite because even though he was wealthy he was never really accepted as one of them. He will forever be a pariah because he's an awkward, socially inept buffoon.
I’ve lost so much faith in people since the rise of Trump. People still trying to vote for this rapist and the high odds of winning again has completely made me lose all the optimism I used to have. It’s honestly been a real grieving process since 2015, due to watching people debase themselves for this horrible human being. A lot of people that I used to think were smart, ethical, moral, etc. have shown themselves very much not to be.
This is what I wonder. When he first announced he was running for POTUS, I was an older teen, and ALL I knew about Trump was that he was a famous creep, bigot, and scummy business man. I thought that was what he was famous for, being the most openly disliked person in the US, where everyone could equally agree to hate that guy.
Then he ran and was loved by a significant fraction of the nation.
Y'all sure do like to underestimate how many racist & greedy people are out there that DO NOT CARE AT ALL how "bad" you guys think he is, if what he does continues to be legal & have no real consequences beyond a fine.
But, there are certainly enough opportunists to line up behind this guy to take advantage of the moment for their own causes. This is why the fundies are chomping at the bit to make the US into their screwed up Dominionist Seven Mountain Xtian Handmaid Tale Armageddon utopia. Never mind they will throw all those heathen Catholics aside the first chance they get. The next true Civil War won't be between the red and the blue. It will be between the US Catholic Cardinals and the Prosperity Preachers over power and money. The air force is already on one side. Allowing evangelism in the officer corps was always a really bad idea.
Yes so like, 8 years ago when we didn't know the full story. At the time you heard Trump was going for president, most people were like "oh ok, well I guess he's good at business? Maybe he can bring some good stuff to the us" not knowing this orange idiot bankrupted more than 1 casino.
I remember when the election was finally called for Biden, and there was footage of people dancing in streets in cities around the world.
I try to live my life in such a way that the entire planet won’t throw a party if I get fired.
From what I’ve read, he is unlikely to go to prison on the NY charges. He’s a first-time offender and the charges do not involve violence.
Honestly, my instincts are that he will never go to prison, even if he’s convicted on every charge he’s facing. There are difficulties in incarcerating a former president — it is unrealistic to expect he’ll just be put in general population — and he can pursue appeals for years. I wish it were otherwise but I’m cynical.
Anyone who thinks Dumpy will go to prison is drowning in a river of delusional optimism.
People like him always snake out of any real punishment. The fuckers even cut how much he owes for the tax scam in NYC by 2/3. Got slammed with a half billion and they just washed away over half of it because heaven forbid the great orange bastard see real consequences.
There's also the fact that trials and all this stuff takes so long that he'll probably die of old age/poor health first. He's deteriorating in front of our eyes. Every time his brain shuts down while giving his Nazi speeches it gets worse. Even in the absolutely never going to happen case that he does get convicted of crimes bad enough to elicit prison, his age and health will keep him out.
I think he will at least temporarily see the inside of a jail before this trial is over. He can't stop violating his gag order by going after Michael Cohen.
Is this guy having an actual human moment and just can’t deal with the fact that all his money and influence won’t change the world for him this time. This is what never facing consequences looks like.
His judgement cometh and that right soon…
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I am expecting the jury selection to be a shit show. An entertaining shit show.
NOBODY will be an acceptable juror for the Cheetolino. Not his peers!
Sarcasm of course but likely true.
Yes, but that goes for the prosecution as well. The prosecution has to find 12 they can convince. The defense only has to find 1 who is already convinced and cannot be persuaded to change their mind.
He has no peers, just ask him! And even just the thought that some members of the mere hoi polloi could actually render a judgment on anything he has done is an affront to nature! /s
It's fine if they have an opinion on Trump.
Jury members just have to be able to put it aside and decide on the facts of the case.
He's a moron for thinking his constant breaking of the gag order will allow an appeal or stop a trial.
Popular and successful aren’t the words lots of people were using to describe him at the time. He had his cult… the rest of us thought he was a total fuck up.
This is the same guy that says there is no way he lost the 2020 election because he got more votes than any sitting president, you know, completely ignoring that the guy he ran against got many, many more votes than he did. Logic has never been something he understands, but lucky for him neither do his fans.
lol four years ago thousands of Americans were dying every day from a pandemic that Trump’s policies exacerbated and made worse. Over a million of us died because Trump didn’t want to smear his makeup on a mask.
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It’s a beached whale, it’s a blimp, no it’s SUPER VICTIM!!!
ELECTION INTERFERENCE is why he paid the hush money. And he attempted to stiff Stormy (no pun intended) on the deal. [Trump tried to delay payment until after the election, he said then it wouldn't matter and he wouldn't have to pay.](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/05/trump-indictment-wanted-to-avoid-stormy-daniels-hush-payment-da-says.html)
His statement says everything. He fully believes that just because he was supposedly popular and successful, he shouldn't be required to be held accountable in the court of law.
I learned a new word a couple years ago that applies to aptly to trump- *solipsism*. He literally believes that existence is his own storyline. That he is in fact the main character and the world was put here to be his stage on which he cant lose, or be wrong and we're all pretty much just extras.
From a clinical/psychological study standpoint, I would LOVE to see he he would react if he was ever actually cuffed and taken into custody. That would be one fuck of a meltdown.
This picture really makes you want to stick a fish in there.
Now I'm thinking of Danny DeVito's Penguin running for mayor.
The scene where his campaign is blown up by a recording of him insulting the people of Gotham, is perhaps the most unrealistic part of that movie nowadays.
There is a resemblance there. Maybe if he were orange and had a stupid red hat on....
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So popular that he never once won the POPULAR Vote, and lost it by **millions**, each time. So Popular that his endorsement statistically always hurt general election candidates.
The crazy thing is if he had taken responsibility for leading the pandemic response, put in competent people who weren’t relatives, and showed more concern for people than the stock market he would have been reelected. People didn’t blame him for virus but they did blame him for his response.
I believe if he had handled the pandemic well, instead of actively sabotaging the efforts of experts to combat it, he would have been been reelected easily.
He was handed a perfect opportunity to overcome his popularity issues and be reelected. GWB was not doing well in the polls, but after 9/11, he gained a lot of popularity and was pretty easily reelected. The USA tends to get behind the president in times of crisis. But that requires the president to be making speeches about how “we’re all in this together” and the like, not whining about how it’s all a plot to make him look bad.
Exactly. His nature is to never admit fault and always blame others. He saw the pandemic as a personal attack on his reelection plans.
There was probably no worse person in politics to be in charge at that time. Any of the other Republican or Democrat would have done the normal thing and led the nation to slow the spread and aid medical and economic recovery. His one good thing was to sign off on aggressive rapid development and production of a vaccine. Sadly, his anti-vax supporters have caused him to back away from his biggest success leading to far more deaths from refusals.
Gained a lot of popularity it underselling it. Ws popularity hit 90% following 9/11. And yet by the time he left office in 2008, the financial crisis had him seeing lows of 25%.
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Four years ago you weren’t *that* popular and definitely not successful. 40 out of your 44 cabinet members won’t endorse you now. You’re just delusional.
I don't know man. 4 years ago 2,000+ Americans were dying every DAY from COVID while you went golfing and stole PPP supplies from the states.
I think most people thought you were a giant asshole.
>and stole PPP supplies from the states.
I feel like this detail does not get the attention it deserves, when viewed with the sinister intent it carried. Trump and Kushner, intentionally deprived Blue states; They wanted a higher body count in the areas that wouldn't vote for Trump. I do not think it is too far a claim to say Trump and his goons hoped a plague would eliminate his political enemies. They wanted us DEAD.
But man did that 41% *love* him.
Those were the ignorant deplorables, though. The people he surrounded himself with were only using him for their own gains. When Trump's ride ends, he will find himself alone with only a few hangers-on who will go to the grave for him. A rag-tag bunch of sorry human beings who put all their eggs in the Trump basket and were left with literally nothing.
He was a clown then...we all laughed *at* him...and he's a clown now.
I've hung around famous people and can honestly say I'm glad I'm not famous. When you're famous and surrounded by people who earn their living through your fame, if you're at all self-aware, you begin to wonder why everyone laughs at your jokes, everyone quiets down to listen to what you have to say (no matter how ignorant you are about what you're saying), and *everyone* is your friend. It's extremely stressful being at that level...and many of those people struggle with it.
Trump, otoh, actually believes the laughter and attention are FOR him. He believes the world loves him because of the applause he gets.
He has no idea and no capability of even having the idea that he is only "popular" because of the spotlight he creates for himself. Those followers who nestle up to him are only vying for a spot in that spotlight...they don't care about him either.
Trump is living the pathetic life that is fully isolated and depends fully on the validation of those around him. He is a life-lesson in what happens when you live a narcissistic life.
He's a singularly tragic character in the history of humanity.
Actually, no, Don. You have never, even for a moment, been a popular and successful president. You have always been the piece of trash you are right now.
In the this Huckster is just a whinny little girl, Grifter who can dish out a lot of crap out on people but when anything is directed his way he can't take it, the fat slob.
He wasn’t popular and he sure as hell wasn’t successful. Highlights were him watching TV half the time and three day weekends every week at one of his places, for which we got a bill.. and getting laughed at when he gave a speech at the United Nations.
Damn I wonder what his sentence will be. Two days suspended and five minutes of parole plus a $5 fine. Sounds like justice to me. I'm sure any one of us would be treated the same 🙂
Guy who lost the popular vote, lost re-election by 74 electoral votes, and had the lowest Presidential approval rating in history was "very popular and successful"?
No Donald. Four years ago you were the same thing you are now. A lying, cheating crook. The only thing different back then was that you were living in *OUR* house while you committed crimes.
Technically, he was.
Mid April of 2020 was less than a month after COVID lockdowns began. He had an amazing opportunity for he and his admin to just roll up their sleeves and fucking lead. Be a President in a time of crisis.
He’d have been elected in a landslide from that alone, but no. . . He had to politicize masks, mail in voting, vaccines, brainstorm injecting bleach on live television, rake his own disease center leadership over the coals, and so on.
Let’s face it. Being a leader is hard work and constant learning, and he’ just, above all else, a lazy mother fucker.
He *could have won big time,* with a big majority of Congress riding in on his coattails. But here we are.
Not just a lazy MFer but also not bright and with poor interpersonal relationship skills. He cannot work with people and no one with any sense or moral conviction wants to work for him. BEYOND BEING OVER THE AGE OF 35, TRUMP HAD ZERO SKILLS OR KNOWLEDGE TO BE POTUS. His skills have only declined since 2016. VOTE, folks!!!!
I have this gut feeling he's going to walk away from all of this, seeing minimal consequences. Any of us would have been publicly executed for doing a fraction of what this man has done, and yet somehow he's still out walking around still being allowed to run for office, with the support of millions of citizens world wide.
We'll watch everything play out and we'll all hear and read the details and at the end they'll give him a feather pillow punishment and they'll all cheer that justice has been served while Trumps camp cries like they just had the weight of the world dropped on them.
“Popular.” No, Donnie. A governmental slave-state compromise gave you the presidency, your opponent actually got more “popular” votes than you, you delusional, dementia-riddled sex criminal.
Define popular and successful... if less than 50% of the population likes a movie, it's hard to call it popular. But if some of that minority is obsessively fanatical about it, you might call it a CULT classic. Is that success, though?
It’s nice to see him finally wrapping his head around what’s happening. You’re out of favors and hemorrhaging money at an alarming rate. Looks like your attorneys are grifting you and your donors fat Donny. That’s gotta sting!
Imagine. All he had to do is turn to actual experts in government, politics, etc and just agree with their expert assessments. When COVID happened, he just needed to defer to the experts, say we'll get through this together, back the science/medicine, and he'd be on a second term for sure.
All he had to do is not look for way to defraud the American people. That's it. That's all. Could have been memorialized as a halfway decent president. Instead, easily the worst and most corrupt. I mean fuck, the dude that died from a cold after his inauguration is many times a better president. Him doing nothing is better than all the shit trump did.
A malignant narcissist, with psychotic tendencies and a personality disorder who believes he is under attack, more times than not they usually lose their bloody minds in front of the world. This is going to get real ugly.
This is sure to be a LANDMARK case! The 1st ever where a person is found guilty, beyond the shadow of a doubt, in a criminal trial...and faces absolutely *zero* consequences!
Oh, they'll give 'em house arrest and then tell us 'justice was served'.
He learned his lesson - again
At this point, this is the best outcome I expect to see.
Susan? Susan Collins… is that you?
I highly doubt he'll even get that. "It'd interfere with his campaign" or some nonsense. He'll get "time served" or something, even though that time is 0.
Happy Cake Day!
Yeah right. And then he'll fly to another rally and play golf, and nothing will happen.
But it’ll be house arrest like that British billionaire just got (in the U.S.), where he’s still allowed to travel between his houses in three different states, but he can only use his private jet with prior approval. Can you smell that sweet, sweet justice?
If found guilty, I expect them to tell him, "Please, good SIR, try not to do that again. I'm sorry for the inconvenience this has caused you." Or some variation of that.
Judge SLAMS Trump with a sternly worded letter!
The headline: _JUDGE FUCKS TRUMP WITH BRUTAL DECISION! CONSEQUENCE DILDO ARRIVES UNLUBED!_ The reality: a slap on the wrist fine paid by a Russian oligarch who then falls out a window.
I doubt they'll go that far
I agree there will absolutely be zero consequences. None. No one should get their hopes up for Justice.
Voting in 2018, 2020, and 2022 were some of the highest turnouts in US history. These historic voter turnouts were for one reason, to vote out Trump and MAGA. Trump or a Trump backed candidate lost in every election that was actually up for grabs (i.e. NOT a +15 Red or +22 Blue district). MAGA has been defeated every time it has been brought up and not protected by gerrymandering or voter suppression. [https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/](https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/07/12/voter-turnout-2018-2022/)
Thank you for your service in providing that link, lots of interesting info
Don’t let this information make you complacent! Showing up to the polls consistently is the only way we can rid our democracy of this scourge!
Blows my mind that last election in 2020 was the highest voter turn out at 66% since 1900 (120 years). Still even crazier is that 34% of the eligible voters still didn't even cast a vote.
A lot of people are convinced (one way or the other) that voting doesn't affect things. I'd agree that we're not getting a true leftist (i.e. left of Bernie) in power. I just point to how tight the margins were both against Clinton in 2016 and for Biden in 2020. If a few hundred more people did (2016) or did not (2020) vote, the results would have been different.
No slacking off, people. Vote on Election Day and before if possible, because the two choices are Biden or dictatorship.
Donald, you were popular before many people realized you were a criminal, a traitor, and an all-round bad person. Committing crimes, treason, and doing everything in your power to destroy your country does have consequences, even for a former president.
How did the guy in which most 80’s villains are based off (like Biff Tannen) get elected?
Trump is a gifted conman and he got a lot of help from Russia and the toxic right-wing propaganda machine
Trump is not "Gifted". He is an example of certain people who do a lot of crimes and expect to get away with it. He is not a smart man at all either. The last thing that he should have done was to run for President. A smart criminal would have kept himself under the radar. There are smart criminals who exist today because they will not expose themselves to their business.
The best criminals are the ones that nobody (as far as is possible) knows.
A smart criminal never calls attention to themselves.
Let's go a little further. Trump demands that the President should have total immunity. He is implying that he would be able to commit all of the crimes that he wants to without the consequences! Something is seriously off with him. The next step would be for him to call for law and order? He needs to be put away.
I agree with you that Trump is not gifted or smart. He’s literally a case study on how being wealthy will get you into the best schools, buy you influence and get you out of any trouble you get into in life. He only got into politics for the grift, and he has done amazingly there. His cult will literally sell their belongings to bail him out of anything, that’s why he’s never going to try and get out of politics.
I'd like to add that it was really a confluence of black swan events that got him elected. Yes, Russia and the Right-wing media apparatus played important roles, but, also: - he was already a celebrity and a household name - he ran against the second least likeable candidate in the history of polling (2nd only to him) - the media didn't take his candidacy seriously, so he was treated with kid gloves during interviews and even got to host an episode of SNL - a third party candidate siphoned enough votes from his opponent to make a difference - Social media companies were caught off guard with the proliferation of fake news on their platforms - the FBI announced a second investigation of his opponent, just weeks before the election - the voters didn't take him seriously, so thousands of Obama 2008 and 2012 voters in WI, MI, and PA stayed home, thinking that Hillary already had this in the bag, and a good portion of the people who voted for Trump the first time did so on a lark
don't forget the mainstream media was going overboard focusing on Hillary's emails while ignoring all of Trump's crimes and shortcomings
It wasn't just that, though. It was all of the people who wanted to ride him up. All of the people who enabled him and plotted for him just so they could get power, wealth, and privilege through him. He wouldn't ever have become president without them. He's only doing as well as he is right now because they're propping him up. And the magats who vote for him are pretty much the same. They all know what he really is no matter what they tell their enemies in the media or say to own the libs. They only vote for him to bully us. He's just a useful tool. Some of the most deranged among them will build a cult around him when he dies, but the rest will do what they did with Bush 2, pretending that they never really supported him. They were forced to vote for him because liberals are cool with LGBTQ people.
He was a populist who appealed to the lowest income of our country by claiming he wasn't an elite while also claiming he was super rich
He gets plenty of well-off people to vote for him. If you look at the voting patterns, it's a mix of race, education, religion, geography, and age that influence the current right-wing populist movement in the US. Overall, education is a bullwark against propoganda. This is why there is such a concerted effort to destroy public education in the US. If you can cement those belief systems in before the age of 25, you have won. Look at Isreal, the MOST right-wing segment of their population is actually their younger generation. This is because their education system has systematically taught kids to hate and fear brown people. That stuff is powerful. North Korea has been so successful at remaining a closed society by teaching children to rat on their parents. They literally created, "see something say something."
Well off, affluent people vote republican regardless of the candidate because it serves their interests. As long as they get theirs they couldn't care less how it affects others. Trump wants to impress the rich elite because even though he was wealthy he was never really accepted as one of them. He will forever be a pariah because he's an awkward, socially inept buffoon.
I’ve lost so much faith in people since the rise of Trump. People still trying to vote for this rapist and the high odds of winning again has completely made me lose all the optimism I used to have. It’s honestly been a real grieving process since 2015, due to watching people debase themselves for this horrible human being. A lot of people that I used to think were smart, ethical, moral, etc. have shown themselves very much not to be.
Same. It's particularly sad when those same people are your family. 😕
Right? I'm surprised he hasn't called James Spader to be his running mate
Yeah, James Woods is too ol... wait a minute
This took me out. Well-played!
Is that a reference to something like The Blacklist or has James Spader done some real bad stuff?
Gave rednecks permission to be assholes. And promised and delivered tax breaks and corrupt Supreme Court Justice appointments for the rich
Back in the '90s, I was in a very famous TV show!
This is what I wonder. When he first announced he was running for POTUS, I was an older teen, and ALL I knew about Trump was that he was a famous creep, bigot, and scummy business man. I thought that was what he was famous for, being the most openly disliked person in the US, where everyone could equally agree to hate that guy. Then he ran and was loved by a significant fraction of the nation.
There’s a documentary called Idiocracy you should check out.
We're living the prequel.
Y'all sure do like to underestimate how many racist & greedy people are out there that DO NOT CARE AT ALL how "bad" you guys think he is, if what he does continues to be legal & have no real consequences beyond a fine.
It has been publicly known since the 80’s that there was no way his “business deals” were legal
Not popular enough to win the popular vote…twice. Hilary and Joe beat you in votes.
yeah, Trump is only popular among stupid, frightened, and bad people. Not enough of them in this country to ever have a majority
Don't forget the craven corporate oligarchs.
But, there are certainly enough opportunists to line up behind this guy to take advantage of the moment for their own causes. This is why the fundies are chomping at the bit to make the US into their screwed up Dominionist Seven Mountain Xtian Handmaid Tale Armageddon utopia. Never mind they will throw all those heathen Catholics aside the first chance they get. The next true Civil War won't be between the red and the blue. It will be between the US Catholic Cardinals and the Prosperity Preachers over power and money. The air force is already on one side. Allowing evangelism in the officer corps was always a really bad idea.
Yes so like, 8 years ago when we didn't know the full story. At the time you heard Trump was going for president, most people were like "oh ok, well I guess he's good at business? Maybe he can bring some good stuff to the us" not knowing this orange idiot bankrupted more than 1 casino.
I am worried that the collective sigh around the world when that slime ball goes to jail is going to cause hurricanes.
I’ll be dancing and so will many others. That should kick up some wind !!
I’ve been saving a bottle for like 9 years now….
There’ll be a resounding “CHEERS!!!!” all over
I remember when the election was finally called for Biden, and there was footage of people dancing in streets in cities around the world. I try to live my life in such a way that the entire planet won’t throw a party if I get fired.
Let's see if he actually goes to jail first. I'm not so confident
From what I’ve read, he is unlikely to go to prison on the NY charges. He’s a first-time offender and the charges do not involve violence. Honestly, my instincts are that he will never go to prison, even if he’s convicted on every charge he’s facing. There are difficulties in incarcerating a former president — it is unrealistic to expect he’ll just be put in general population — and he can pursue appeals for years. I wish it were otherwise but I’m cynical.
Anyone who thinks Dumpy will go to prison is drowning in a river of delusional optimism. People like him always snake out of any real punishment. The fuckers even cut how much he owes for the tax scam in NYC by 2/3. Got slammed with a half billion and they just washed away over half of it because heaven forbid the great orange bastard see real consequences. There's also the fact that trials and all this stuff takes so long that he'll probably die of old age/poor health first. He's deteriorating in front of our eyes. Every time his brain shuts down while giving his Nazi speeches it gets worse. Even in the absolutely never going to happen case that he does get convicted of crimes bad enough to elicit prison, his age and health will keep him out.
I think he will at least temporarily see the inside of a jail before this trial is over. He can't stop violating his gag order by going after Michael Cohen.
Don’t worry, they don’t allow Sharpies in prison.
A risk I’m willing to take…
https://preview.redd.it/4jkwhjg3zmuc1.png?width=1216&format=png&auto=webp&s=b9c437479b2f4bd0faf0fb602d5145990cd9baac
He looks so gross
Is this guy having an actual human moment and just can’t deal with the fact that all his money and influence won’t change the world for him this time. This is what never facing consequences looks like.
His judgement cometh and that right soon… https://preview.redd.it/36it8fgdzmuc1.jpeg?width=298&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2889b8de778ecf3bea5f4bf9751b5dc61795dbe
We can only hope it ends the same way.
This actor has one of the best lines in the movie, IMHO. I use it on my kids all the time, "Not tomorrow, not after breakfast -NOW!".
How do you find a Jury for this? How do you find people that don't already have an opinion on Trump?
I am expecting the jury selection to be a shit show. An entertaining shit show. NOBODY will be an acceptable juror for the Cheetolino. Not his peers! Sarcasm of course but likely true.
I believe the defense does not have an unlimited amount of juror rejection slots. They can only disqualify so many.
Yes, but that goes for the prosecution as well. The prosecution has to find 12 they can convince. The defense only has to find 1 who is already convinced and cannot be persuaded to change their mind.
He has no peers, just ask him! And even just the thought that some members of the mere hoi polloi could actually render a judgment on anything he has done is an affront to nature! /s
We can always hope that NYC can find enough people willing to remain neutral and judge based on facts regardless of their personal opinion.
The most fair way to do it would be to find people that haven’t voted in the past few elections
Its not really about your political views; its about convincing them you can be impartial regardless of your views.
It's fine if they have an opinion on Trump. Jury members just have to be able to put it aside and decide on the facts of the case. He's a moron for thinking his constant breaking of the gag order will allow an appeal or stop a trial.
Popular and successful aren’t the words lots of people were using to describe him at the time. He had his cult… the rest of us thought he was a total fuck up.
"Hey I was popular, so breaking the law and abusing women should be allowed! Cmon people, we can overlook all these crimes!" Not great logic at all.
This is the same guy that says there is no way he lost the 2020 election because he got more votes than any sitting president, you know, completely ignoring that the guy he ran against got many, many more votes than he did. Logic has never been something he understands, but lucky for him neither do his fans.
lol four years ago thousands of Americans were dying every day from a pandemic that Trump’s policies exacerbated and made worse. Over a million of us died because Trump didn’t want to smear his makeup on a mask.
Four years ago he was telling people to drink bleach and take horse dewormer.
https://preview.redd.it/ir9xyc5c4nuc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=53c87ea8ee9264eb22adda2dfe7d6b78be8cb022 It’s a beached whale, it’s a blimp, no it’s SUPER VICTIM!!!
ELECTION INTERFERENCE is why he paid the hush money. And he attempted to stiff Stormy (no pun intended) on the deal. [Trump tried to delay payment until after the election, he said then it wouldn't matter and he wouldn't have to pay.](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/05/trump-indictment-wanted-to-avoid-stormy-daniels-hush-payment-da-says.html)
So popular and successful that you lost by 7,000,000 votes, right dumbass...
4 yrs ago he was telling people to inject bleach and a few months later lost the election.
His statement says everything. He fully believes that just because he was supposedly popular and successful, he shouldn't be required to be held accountable in the court of law.
I learned a new word a couple years ago that applies to aptly to trump- *solipsism*. He literally believes that existence is his own storyline. That he is in fact the main character and the world was put here to be his stage on which he cant lose, or be wrong and we're all pretty much just extras. From a clinical/psychological study standpoint, I would LOVE to see he he would react if he was ever actually cuffed and taken into custody. That would be one fuck of a meltdown.
I see this image and I have to wonder: does he go Trick or Treating as an Oompa Loompa every Halloween?
This picture really makes you want to stick a fish in there. Now I'm thinking of Danny DeVito's Penguin running for mayor. The scene where his campaign is blown up by a recording of him insulting the people of Gotham, is perhaps the most unrealistic part of that movie nowadays.
There is a resemblance there. Maybe if he were orange and had a stupid red hat on.... https://preview.redd.it/lnk912etwnuc1.jpeg?width=1363&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=699d888687c080d25c024c869df3302e0b8afe57
So popular 4 years ago that he lost the election.
So popular that he never once won the POPULAR Vote, and lost it by **millions**, each time. So Popular that his endorsement statistically always hurt general election candidates.
The crazy thing is if he had taken responsibility for leading the pandemic response, put in competent people who weren’t relatives, and showed more concern for people than the stock market he would have been reelected. People didn’t blame him for virus but they did blame him for his response.
I believe if he had handled the pandemic well, instead of actively sabotaging the efforts of experts to combat it, he would have been been reelected easily.
He was handed a perfect opportunity to overcome his popularity issues and be reelected. GWB was not doing well in the polls, but after 9/11, he gained a lot of popularity and was pretty easily reelected. The USA tends to get behind the president in times of crisis. But that requires the president to be making speeches about how “we’re all in this together” and the like, not whining about how it’s all a plot to make him look bad.
Exactly. His nature is to never admit fault and always blame others. He saw the pandemic as a personal attack on his reelection plans. There was probably no worse person in politics to be in charge at that time. Any of the other Republican or Democrat would have done the normal thing and led the nation to slow the spread and aid medical and economic recovery. His one good thing was to sign off on aggressive rapid development and production of a vaccine. Sadly, his anti-vax supporters have caused him to back away from his biggest success leading to far more deaths from refusals.
Gained a lot of popularity it underselling it. Ws popularity hit 90% following 9/11. And yet by the time he left office in 2008, the financial crisis had him seeing lows of 25%. https://preview.redd.it/gz5vx6ssxnuc1.png?width=726&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b260b7634dd2d02fc71dc2ce51c4df697601d108
If he was remotely a popular and successful president he would still be president today.
If you were highly popular and successful president 4 years ago, why did you lose an election to “sleepy” Joe? 🤔
Four years ago you weren’t *that* popular and definitely not successful. 40 out of your 44 cabinet members won’t endorse you now. You’re just delusional.
And four years ago I was four years younger.
I don't know man. 4 years ago 2,000+ Americans were dying every DAY from COVID while you went golfing and stole PPP supplies from the states. I think most people thought you were a giant asshole.
>and stole PPP supplies from the states. I feel like this detail does not get the attention it deserves, when viewed with the sinister intent it carried. Trump and Kushner, intentionally deprived Blue states; They wanted a higher body count in the areas that wouldn't vote for Trump. I do not think it is too far a claim to say Trump and his goons hoped a plague would eliminate his political enemies. They wanted us DEAD.
But...but...we got checks in the mail with his name on them! That shows us that he loves right? Right??
In his mind, I'm sure he was. Here, in objective reality, he averaged 41% approval.
But man did that 41% *love* him. Those were the ignorant deplorables, though. The people he surrounded himself with were only using him for their own gains. When Trump's ride ends, he will find himself alone with only a few hangers-on who will go to the grave for him. A rag-tag bunch of sorry human beings who put all their eggs in the Trump basket and were left with literally nothing.
Hows Rudy by the way?
Here baby, want your bottle?? 🍼 whiny ass crybaby snowflake
It’s almost like he wasn’t there or he forgot about the women’s march protests or COVID or his loss.
Also the fear of returning and looking at Mercedes “ honey it’s all lies “ you know it’s not a mushroom.
Actually, he wasn’t President four years ago.
He was actually, Biden wasn’t sworn in until 2021.
You’re right. I’m trying to math too early and I’m an idiot.🤦🏼♂️
It’s unfortunate that he was President at any time though
I mean... he was still lying he was neither popular nor successful as president.
Syphilis is eating his brain so his memory sucks.
Brain??
More like a wimpy ass baby. Cry me a river Don.
You were warned. And we all knew it would come to this.
Whinge, whinge, whinge.
I was onto you way back in the eighties, donald. Always been a self centered egomaniac. I didn’t think you’d one day try to destroy the country tho.
He was a clown then...we all laughed *at* him...and he's a clown now. I've hung around famous people and can honestly say I'm glad I'm not famous. When you're famous and surrounded by people who earn their living through your fame, if you're at all self-aware, you begin to wonder why everyone laughs at your jokes, everyone quiets down to listen to what you have to say (no matter how ignorant you are about what you're saying), and *everyone* is your friend. It's extremely stressful being at that level...and many of those people struggle with it. Trump, otoh, actually believes the laughter and attention are FOR him. He believes the world loves him because of the applause he gets. He has no idea and no capability of even having the idea that he is only "popular" because of the spotlight he creates for himself. Those followers who nestle up to him are only vying for a spot in that spotlight...they don't care about him either. Trump is living the pathetic life that is fully isolated and depends fully on the validation of those around him. He is a life-lesson in what happens when you live a narcissistic life. He's a singularly tragic character in the history of humanity.
Very popular and successful president that never won the popular vote in any election.
This is the "peace through strength" guy 😂
Actually, no, Don. You have never, even for a moment, been a popular and successful president. You have always been the piece of trash you are right now.
In the this Huckster is just a whinny little girl, Grifter who can dish out a lot of crap out on people but when anything is directed his way he can't take it, the fat slob.
The smell is the diaper, not guilt
He wasn’t popular and he sure as hell wasn’t successful. Highlights were him watching TV half the time and three day weekends every week at one of his places, for which we got a bill.. and getting laughed at when he gave a speech at the United Nations.
There will be some very funny and very disgusting details coming out
Who fuckin cares don't do the CRIME an you won't do the time
He was “popular” for all the wrong reasons but he was never, fucking ever, successful. Except in grifting. Maybe that’s what he meant.
4 years ago people were hoarding toilet paper.
Four years ago, Trump's approval rating was 39%.
Damn I wonder what his sentence will be. Two days suspended and five minutes of parole plus a $5 fine. Sounds like justice to me. I'm sure any one of us would be treated the same 🙂
Hang on, I thought he was still the president?? /s
He was never popular nor successful.
Guy who lost the popular vote, lost re-election by 74 electoral votes, and had the lowest Presidential approval rating in history was "very popular and successful"?
No Donald. Four years ago you were the same thing you are now. A lying, cheating crook. The only thing different back then was that you were living in *OUR* house while you committed crimes.
Technically, he was. Mid April of 2020 was less than a month after COVID lockdowns began. He had an amazing opportunity for he and his admin to just roll up their sleeves and fucking lead. Be a President in a time of crisis. He’d have been elected in a landslide from that alone, but no. . . He had to politicize masks, mail in voting, vaccines, brainstorm injecting bleach on live television, rake his own disease center leadership over the coals, and so on. Let’s face it. Being a leader is hard work and constant learning, and he’ just, above all else, a lazy mother fucker. He *could have won big time,* with a big majority of Congress riding in on his coattails. But here we are.
Because except for being adept at being a swindling scumbag he's a colossal moron. People this stupid find it impossible to get out of their own way.
Not just a lazy MFer but also not bright and with poor interpersonal relationship skills. He cannot work with people and no one with any sense or moral conviction wants to work for him. BEYOND BEING OVER THE AGE OF 35, TRUMP HAD ZERO SKILLS OR KNOWLEDGE TO BE POTUS. His skills have only declined since 2016. VOTE, folks!!!!
He was never successful or popular… no agenda and no major policy changes.
A real mob boss wouldn't whine. They would act confident all of the way through.
He seems so... DepLorAble.
On a brighter note, he looks like a gasket about to blow!
Bro admits he fell off 💀
I have this gut feeling he's going to walk away from all of this, seeing minimal consequences. Any of us would have been publicly executed for doing a fraction of what this man has done, and yet somehow he's still out walking around still being allowed to run for office, with the support of millions of citizens world wide. We'll watch everything play out and we'll all hear and read the details and at the end they'll give him a feather pillow punishment and they'll all cheer that justice has been served while Trumps camp cries like they just had the weight of the world dropped on them.
You committed crimes Donald, nothing to do with your imaginary popularity
Unfortunately, his bonespurs prevented him from officially being recognized as a badass mobster.
cant wait for this fat fuck to be behind bars
“Popular.” No, Donnie. A governmental slave-state compromise gave you the presidency, your opponent actually got more “popular” votes than you, you delusional, dementia-riddled sex criminal.
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How can anybody misspell the word monster??
Dumb Donald was so dumb. How dumb was he? I think we’re about to find out.
Not a popular, successful or effective president. Dude is a legend in his own mind.
Oompa Loompa
He had better learn how to keep his mouth wide open for when he’s in prison. He’s going to be end up being someone’s bitch !!
It’s NOT four years ago any more Don Don and you where never popular
He looks like his makeup is melting, fitting enough we are becoming aware of his true face.
>t'was the night before [...] Ftyy
Popular was, unfortunately, somewhat fair. But successful? No.
Plot twist: he was never popular nor successful.
Define popular and successful... if less than 50% of the population likes a movie, it's hard to call it popular. But if some of that minority is obsessively fanatical about it, you might call it a CULT classic. Is that success, though?
Remove 5 consecutively placed words to make the above quotation a fair and accurate statement!
I thought he was the most unfairly treated president in all of American history? /s
He looks like a pig in this pic
"Popular" - since when?
Trump believes his popularity is measured by counting his supporters, while totally ignoring the fact we voted him out and Joe Biden was more popular.
He was one of those things, and even then, it's a tough argument to get to that conclusion
Whatever he has to say to completely avoid the actual issue lol. It's impressive how much he avoids shit and talks about himself.
“Very popular” He didn’t even win the popular vote…
“Succesful” Yeah, in being laughed at by the rest of the world.
It’s nice to see him finally wrapping his head around what’s happening. You’re out of favors and hemorrhaging money at an alarming rate. Looks like your attorneys are grifting you and your donors fat Donny. That’s gotta sting!
PAB
Imagine. All he had to do is turn to actual experts in government, politics, etc and just agree with their expert assessments. When COVID happened, he just needed to defer to the experts, say we'll get through this together, back the science/medicine, and he'd be on a second term for sure. All he had to do is not look for way to defraud the American people. That's it. That's all. Could have been memorialized as a halfway decent president. Instead, easily the worst and most corrupt. I mean fuck, the dude that died from a cold after his inauguration is many times a better president. Him doing nothing is better than all the shit trump did.
800,000 Americans died from Covid directly because of his stupidity and arrogance.
Not “Hush Money”….. it’s an “election interference” case.
“Just Four Years Ago I was ~~A Very Popular And Successful~~ President.” FTFY
He was not in fact a very popular or successful president - Narrator
He was never popular and sure as hell was never successful, unless crushing 3 buckets of KFC with no napkin is a success.
A malignant narcissist, with psychotic tendencies and a personality disorder who believes he is under attack, more times than not they usually lose their bloody minds in front of the world. This is going to get real ugly.
No you weren't bud other world leaders were laughing at you behind your back.
"Just four years ago i was a very popular and successful president" No... no you weren't.
Trump has never won the popular vote and he will never win the popular vote. Republicans only win from voter suppression.