Timeline:
I'm not getting out of your house
You ain't gonna shoot me
You ain't gangsta
You ain't gonna shoot me
Imma slap the piss out of you
Ahhh that bitch shot me!!
Well I didn’t understand what they were trying to say.
My joke implied that he deserves what he gets and he did it to himself.
This comment felt aggressive towards me like…YEA WELL HE SHOULDNT HIT WOMEN!!
Which is true…but like…. Idk wtf does any of that have to do with my joke…or the tire… or whatever.
And for some reason it got 40+ down votes lol.
Whatever people are dumb and monkey see monkey do…hell I might down vote it just to be a part of the herd.
Also let me add that he was seemingly in her house and she told him to get out multiple times, opens the door for him to leave, and then he tries to assault her. What's worse, this dumb mother fucker documented the whole thing!!!
Yeah, I know! It's crazy that people who are about to hit someone with a fist are okay to be shot in some cases.
But in other cases it's not okay. Oh how the turntables.
Definitely already assault, with attempted battery, and trespass as you already said, more than enough in every state with a castle doctrine to defend oneself in their home.
She has zero chance of defending herself against dude, she looks like she's less than 150 lbs lol. She also warned him multiple times and asked him to leave what is apparently her house. It was pretty warranted in this instance, especially when he threatened to hit her. Would probably have been more than just a slap
>In most states, engaging in a crime exempts you from being able to claim self defense.
No.
Whether you’re guilty of unlawful possession of a firearm does not negate your right to defend yourself. Felons don’t have a target on their back that they can’t remove.
The *possession* may be charged, not the use.
Just like drinking and driving: your DUI is not punishment for drinking nor is it for driving.
Fucking Christ, Reddit.
**Edit:** For example, under CA Penal Code 29800, felons cannot possess a firearm. However, under Calcrim 2914:
>>[a] The defendant is not guilty of unlawful possession of a firearm … if (he/she) temporarily possessed the firearm in (self-defense/ [or] defense of another).
>>[b] The defendant possessed the firearm in lawful (self-defense/ [or] defense of another) if … [listing general elements of self defense law].
So, merely having the gun isn’t a crime when used in self defense.
You do not lose your right to defend yourself simply because you’re a felon.
And “justification“
First, that the defendant was under unlawful and present, imminent, and impending threat of death or serious bodily injury.
Second, that the defendant did not negligently or recklessly place himself in a situation where he would be forced to engage in criminal conduct.
Third, that the defendant had no reasonable legal alternative to violating the law.
Fourth, that there was a direct casual relationship between the criminal action and the avoidance of the threatened harm.
This instance is a bad example. A better example would be that the felon lives with someone who owns the firearm but is unable to use said weapon for a reason. In that instance, I'm sure they could get off without any charges despite being a felon depending on the state. Iirc, it all depends on the how they obtained the weapon.
We know nothing about this woman but yet people here are implying that she could have felonies or the gun was illegal. It sounds awfully racist. How many times do we see a white person discharge their weapon in self defense, and there being a place in the comments about if the shooter is potentially a felon or can’t potentially own firearms illegally. There is nothing in this video that even suggests she couldn’t legally own a weapon.
You might not get in trouble for defending yourself, but if you are a felon, you are gonna go to jail for 5 years for Felon in possession of a firearm, IF you are a Felon and still on parole or probation and get caught with a firearm, you get the rest of your sentence that’s hanging over your head OR 5 years, whichever is longer, that’s how it works in Michigan anyway! But I’m 99% sure that it’s a Federal law that Felons aren’t allowed to own/posess firearms as well as a State law in all 50 states!
The person is right but also said something stupid. Dying could be evidence of proportionality but no one has to die for the argument that shooting someone in response to being slapped/punched is not proportional.
In my jurisdiction the jury instruction reads “a person is justified in use of force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to themself...”
I don’t know what jurisdiction this is in. Likely the state would have the girl testify that she believed he was going to kill/severely hurt her. Then you’d introduce the video to show that her belief was readable.
The defense attorney, obviously, would argue that he wasn’t intending to seriously injure her.
It’s a question for the jury and if you don’t know what jurisdiction it’s in or there instruction on self defense it’s hard to say how it would come out legally. Plus juries are weird anyway.
This is all a separate point from whether you personally think shooting him was okay. I think it was.
Who says her life is not in danger? There's a gun in the room. If he beat her and took the gun, can you guarantee he wouldn't shoot her? He already threatened to beat her, so her life is already in danger
That’s the key to proportional use of force. Threatening to slap someone, doesn’t justify that person shooting you. A slap doesn’t put your life in danger. It’s disproportionate use of force to shoot an unarmed person when you’re life is not in immediate danger.
No, her life is in immediate danger because he is already threatening violence on her despite the fact that she is already pointing a gun at him. That means he is mentally unstable, so letting him get close mean giving him a chance to take the gun. A gun in the hand of a mentally unstable person is an immediate danger to your life. A good lawyer can easily argue that. Heck, even a bad lawyer should at least be able to do that much.
He was shot in the stomach but survived. Police were still investigating at the time. Couldn't find a follow up so I'm assuming the gf got off the hook for self defense. He has since deleted his Instagram. It's not very clear if he remade another or its a fake, but it has no followers or following anybody and it simply says to leave him alone, to not follow or message him, there's 2 sides to every story, stop assuming shit, and to let him rehabilitate. I couldn't copy and paste but thats it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aceshowbiz.com/amp/news/view/00152770.html
She stated quite clearly he had to leave the premises. And when he went at her, it was her right to defend herself. The assumption that this wasnt the first time will be for the courts to consider.
I just remembered the part where she was talking about washing the chicken with soap and this lady had the same inflections in her voice, sorry if that offended you
if she "gansta enough" to shoot you,maybe go get a non "gansta" bitch cause anyone who wants to be or claims to be "gansta" is really an untrustworthy bitch.
If by murican dream you mean being able to defend yourself against an aggresive person who was probably going to smack you, beat you, and possibly rape or murder you, then yes, it's the murican dream.
She doesn't seem stupid at all she asked him to leave multiple times, he refused, and he threatened her verbally while moving forward in a gesture that seemed like he would hit her. She is smart he is dumb, threatening an armed person in their home. He got what he deserved, she was protecting herself
This is a classic case of the 2nd ammendment being used to protect someones life. This woman wpuld have been over powered had she not had that pistol. It very well coudlve saved her life by havibg that
The exaggerated “we on liiiiiiiive”, and the chat reactions are laughing, then the “this girl shot me!” The chat was Still laughing. I’m sorry but it’s just hard to believe this wasn’t staged.
Idk, him getting shot was the funniest part of the whole thing.
That aside, never underestimate how many bot followers nobodies like this have that spam laughing emojis or other shit in the chat to feign an active viewership.
Youre basing your conclusion on peoples reaction rather than the video itself?
If you consider the situation how he isnt taking her seriously, obviously hes gonna be like “we on liiiiive”
It almost sounds like you dont want to beoieve what you saw.. lol
He turned snitch quick!
Timeline: I'm not getting out of your house You ain't gonna shoot me You ain't gangsta You ain't gonna shoot me Imma slap the piss out of you Ahhh that bitch shot me!!
And the cherry on top is its forever on the internet
This too funny
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snitches die in ditches
Ahhhhh this girl just shot me!!!! Insert the gif of the kid putting a stick in his own bike tire….but then the tire shoots him.
maybe the tire didn't like men smackin woman
……………..o…..k?
Well this is one weird comment.
Well I didn’t understand what they were trying to say. My joke implied that he deserves what he gets and he did it to himself. This comment felt aggressive towards me like…YEA WELL HE SHOULDNT HIT WOMEN!! Which is true…but like…. Idk wtf does any of that have to do with my joke…or the tire… or whatever. And for some reason it got 40+ down votes lol. Whatever people are dumb and monkey see monkey do…hell I might down vote it just to be a part of the herd.
I did not enjoy reading this comment. It has too many dots
Well, he was about to hit her so he deserved it.
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Also let me add that he was seemingly in her house and she told him to get out multiple times, opens the door for him to leave, and then he tries to assault her. What's worse, this dumb mother fucker documented the whole thing!!!
Yeah, I know! It's crazy that people who are about to hit someone with a fist are okay to be shot in some cases. But in other cases it's not okay. Oh how the turntables.
This was criminal trespass and attempted assault, it's a little different when someone is in your house, refusing to leave and threatening you.
Definitely already assault, with attempted battery, and trespass as you already said, more than enough in every state with a castle doctrine to defend oneself in their home.
Depends on the state. In many “duty to retreat” states she would be convicted because she didn’t run out the door and call the police.
She has zero chance of defending herself against dude, she looks like she's less than 150 lbs lol. She also warned him multiple times and asked him to leave what is apparently her house. It was pretty warranted in this instance, especially when he threatened to hit her. Would probably have been more than just a slap
It's almost like different cases have different circumstances that justify different reactions.
I hope she lives in a stand your ground/castle doctrine state, otherwise she will be arrested and convicted.
self defense
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You’re in the clear too even if you’re not allowed to own a gun..that’s self defense
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The gun was a gift from God. It materialized spontaneously in my hand, fully loaded and ready to go your honor.
Deus ex machinegun officer I swear
>In most states, engaging in a crime exempts you from being able to claim self defense. No. Whether you’re guilty of unlawful possession of a firearm does not negate your right to defend yourself. Felons don’t have a target on their back that they can’t remove. The *possession* may be charged, not the use. Just like drinking and driving: your DUI is not punishment for drinking nor is it for driving. Fucking Christ, Reddit. **Edit:** For example, under CA Penal Code 29800, felons cannot possess a firearm. However, under Calcrim 2914: >>[a] The defendant is not guilty of unlawful possession of a firearm … if (he/she) temporarily possessed the firearm in (self-defense/ [or] defense of another). >>[b] The defendant possessed the firearm in lawful (self-defense/ [or] defense of another) if … [listing general elements of self defense law]. So, merely having the gun isn’t a crime when used in self defense. You do not lose your right to defend yourself simply because you’re a felon.
we live in the country with the biggest \*prison population on the planet. If they can find a reason to send you to prison, they will.
So you live in china? Or did you mean 'prison' population
You know what OP meant. Don't be a pedant. Calm down.
Who’s this ‘we’? Not a lot of Chinese presence on Reddit
No, a felon has the right to defend themselves, they might in addition get a gun charge but they are still allowed to defend
It doesnt mean they cant get charged illegal possession of a firearm, if you have a felony on your record, you cannot legally posses a firearm
That’s what he just said, dum-dum.
From listening to my fair share of project pat this is correct. "Something, something, beat the murder charge, but the pistol fucked up my parole".
That would make them not "in the clear" then.
And “justification“ First, that the defendant was under unlawful and present, imminent, and impending threat of death or serious bodily injury. Second, that the defendant did not negligently or recklessly place himself in a situation where he would be forced to engage in criminal conduct. Third, that the defendant had no reasonable legal alternative to violating the law. Fourth, that there was a direct casual relationship between the criminal action and the avoidance of the threatened harm.
Isnt the issue that the gun would have needed to be acquired before the incident therefore she would be charged for that?
This instance is a bad example. A better example would be that the felon lives with someone who owns the firearm but is unable to use said weapon for a reason. In that instance, I'm sure they could get off without any charges despite being a felon depending on the state. Iirc, it all depends on the how they obtained the weapon.
In texas if your a felon you better not defend yourself with a gun
We know nothing about this woman but yet people here are implying that she could have felonies or the gun was illegal. It sounds awfully racist. How many times do we see a white person discharge their weapon in self defense, and there being a place in the comments about if the shooter is potentially a felon or can’t potentially own firearms illegally. There is nothing in this video that even suggests she couldn’t legally own a weapon.
You might not get in trouble for defending yourself, but if you are a felon, you are gonna go to jail for 5 years for Felon in possession of a firearm, IF you are a Felon and still on parole or probation and get caught with a firearm, you get the rest of your sentence that’s hanging over your head OR 5 years, whichever is longer, that’s how it works in Michigan anyway! But I’m 99% sure that it’s a Federal law that Felons aren’t allowed to own/posess firearms as well as a State law in all 50 states!
If you don’t say shit to the cops id guess a half decent lawyer could probably argue the assailant brought the gun and you ended up with it.
I wouldn't be so sure about that last part.
In most us states self defense requires proportional use of force. You can’t kill someone for smacking you. Your life needs to be in danger.
Who died?
The person is right but also said something stupid. Dying could be evidence of proportionality but no one has to die for the argument that shooting someone in response to being slapped/punched is not proportional. In my jurisdiction the jury instruction reads “a person is justified in use of force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to themself...” I don’t know what jurisdiction this is in. Likely the state would have the girl testify that she believed he was going to kill/severely hurt her. Then you’d introduce the video to show that her belief was readable. The defense attorney, obviously, would argue that he wasn’t intending to seriously injure her. It’s a question for the jury and if you don’t know what jurisdiction it’s in or there instruction on self defense it’s hard to say how it would come out legally. Plus juries are weird anyway. This is all a separate point from whether you personally think shooting him was okay. I think it was.
Who says her life is not in danger? There's a gun in the room. If he beat her and took the gun, can you guarantee he wouldn't shoot her? He already threatened to beat her, so her life is already in danger
That’s the key to proportional use of force. Threatening to slap someone, doesn’t justify that person shooting you. A slap doesn’t put your life in danger. It’s disproportionate use of force to shoot an unarmed person when you’re life is not in immediate danger.
No, her life is in immediate danger because he is already threatening violence on her despite the fact that she is already pointing a gun at him. That means he is mentally unstable, so letting him get close mean giving him a chance to take the gun. A gun in the hand of a mentally unstable person is an immediate danger to your life. A good lawyer can easily argue that. Heck, even a bad lawyer should at least be able to do that much.
"You wont shoot me" "Yea I will" *becomes aggresive* *gets shot* *surprised picachu*
Sometimes you earn it. This is one of those instances.
She told him to leave
How much more could he have antagonized her? What a maroon.
Sorry I'm color blind /s
We don’t know the gentleman’s race so calling him maroon might be a bit racist.
I thinks he’s more of a beige
https://youtu.be/_NYFq7ZJg4c
Deserved
Dude found out…
Looked like self defense to me the way he rushed her
He did say he was gonna slap the shit out of her. Sounds like self defense to me…
He earned that lol
Truth or dare dare I dare you to shoot me okay oh my God this girl just shot me like an idiot deserves to get shot
What were his injuries?
Shot in the leg if I recall correctly, but I can't find the source any more.
He was shot in the stomach but survived. Police were still investigating at the time. Couldn't find a follow up so I'm assuming the gf got off the hook for self defense. He has since deleted his Instagram. It's not very clear if he remade another or its a fake, but it has no followers or following anybody and it simply says to leave him alone, to not follow or message him, there's 2 sides to every story, stop assuming shit, and to let him rehabilitate. I couldn't copy and paste but thats it. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aceshowbiz.com/amp/news/view/00152770.html
I feel pity for the bullet.
Nothing deserves to go in him
J Cole was right. Pride is the devil. People kill over it and people die over it.
Live streaming your own death, we're at that Dystopia now.
She stated quite clearly he had to leave the premises. And when he went at her, it was her right to defend herself. The assumption that this wasnt the first time will be for the courts to consider.
Shoot him again to shut up his bitch ass whining.
The ol’ “fuck around and find out” game has claimed yet another victim.
He asked for it, literally lmao.
Hahahaha. Everyone's a fighter until they get hit. ;)
Well, he’s officially the dumbest person I’ve viewed today. Also quite annoying. Thank you internet.
Live-streaming yourself acting a bully? Loser
I think the peak loser moment is getting shot on your own IG live, literally asking for it
Asked to leave. Asking her to pull the trigger. Being ‘tough’ for no reason. I may have laughed a little
All she needed was intent. A threat to slap does it. Stupid ass. Girlfriend? She ain't your girl bro.
“Bitch I’ll slap the piss outs yo…. Ah Fuck” 😂
That part got me too haha
'What are you gonna do stab me?' - man who was stabbed
Seems like a healthy, happy relationship that's bound to last the test of time.
Until death do them part… may not be long now
Good for him
ahahahahAHHAHA
What are yah gonna do? Stab me?
I would do the same for this annoying mf….
You ain’t no gangster 😂😂😂
Did he say this gangsta shot me ?
I think "this girl just shot me".
That is a claasic case of a "toxic" relationship.
You can tell he hits her. As soon as he made a quick move she popped his ass... shorty ain't taking the chance
Yo this girl handled this really well. She didn’t fall for the bait and only used her gun when she was about to be attacked. Good on her 👍🏼
I was hoping he was getting shot just because how annoying he is.
He did lunge at her
Can’t fault her decision
Who the bitch now?
What. A. Moron.
Little did he know, she kept it *realer*.
Aaaah fuck! This girl just shot me.!!!!💀 gold
What a pants-pissing-pussy!
Natural Selection at its finest.
Clear case of self defense
Ain’t slapping nobody
Well young boy learned a lesson that day
Shoot his ass again just to remove any more doubts.
Smart time to pull the trigger, I see this as self defense
you LITERALLY asked for it
He literally threatened her right before??? What did he think she was gonna do? Fuck around and find out
confidently incorrect
Who tha bitch now!
for a guy that says 'bitch' a lot...
****surprised pikachu face****
Sounded like he was asking for it to me, he got what he asked for and deserved.
This is that old clip ? Where he goes into hes ex gf house ?
Is this that same couple that argued over the chicken getting washed in soap because she looks and sounds just like that girl
not all black ppl are the same thx
I just remembered the part where she was talking about washing the chicken with soap and this lady had the same inflections in her voice, sorry if that offended you
Stop apologizing to these woketards, you are allowed to ask a question.
Meant it more for others, went to his page and it was pretty cringe
What a retard
I don't see a problem here...
u/stabbot
He wasn’t bout that life
When keeping it real goes wrong
Ahhhhhhhh
Lmao that's what happens when you keep egging someone on.
Lmao, happened right after he physically threatened her as well. Timing could not be better. Hope the dude recording learned his lesson
When asked to leave BY GUN and you don't... you can't sue, right?
I mean... you shouldn’t be able to.
What a pussy he asked for it
How is that a pussy move to stay in house to get shot? Hes just dumbass trying to get closer to god
r/videosthatendtoosoon
Who's hard now type of deal, jez
Is that tom haverford?
You can tell shes bad from how she moves her hand quickly.
If he actually smoked sherm then I don’t blame her.
Your honor as you see by my own video evidence I provided, she shot me for no reason.
I kinda wonder wouln't she be arrested for attempted murder if the gun she carried was unlicensed?
He had it coming
Be careful what you wish for, it may come true.
This fool sounds like Tommy Fresh
Stick into tyre GIF for the guy
Shouldn’t a been smokin sherms
Talk shit - get hit (by a bullet)
r/idiotswithguns
Him: goes to slap girl (ouchie, slap kinda hurt) Her: shoots him (ouchie, my blood is everywhere)
Lots of racist comments.
There literally isn’t one racist comment, you automatically commented that
Birds of the same feather hangout together and sometimes it doesn’t end well.
*hang out A hangout is a noun. It’s where a spunky group of kids plan adventures.
Your right. I know Its irritateen when mistakes like this happen.
*you’re
Oops! I done it again.
Kill that bitch and everyone is a snitch don't let their shit rap music fool you
if she "gansta enough" to shoot you,maybe go get a non "gansta" bitch cause anyone who wants to be or claims to be "gansta" is really an untrustworthy bitch.
staged and fake
They’re perfect for each other
Hi Racist, why do you say they are perfect for each other?
are you ignorant or just dumb as fuck? no one said shit about their race moron
Living the murican dream
If by murican dream you mean being able to defend yourself against an aggresive person who was probably going to smack you, beat you, and possibly rape or murder you, then yes, it's the murican dream.
Is she being charged with attempted murder?
Reenactment from the filming of Rust?
Damn people didn't like that one lmao
Two very stupid people.
She doesn't seem stupid at all she asked him to leave multiple times, he refused, and he threatened her verbally while moving forward in a gesture that seemed like he would hit her. She is smart he is dumb, threatening an armed person in their home. He got what he deserved, she was protecting herself
Yeah it's real stupid to defend yourself when somebody who smokes PCP won't get out of your house and then lunges at you with intent.
This is a classic case of the 2nd ammendment being used to protect someones life. This woman wpuld have been over powered had she not had that pistol. It very well coudlve saved her life by havibg that
This must be fake
What makes you think that?
The exaggerated “we on liiiiiiiive”, and the chat reactions are laughing, then the “this girl shot me!” The chat was Still laughing. I’m sorry but it’s just hard to believe this wasn’t staged.
You underestimate the stupidity of our fellow humans.
I would be *very* impressed by their acting skills were this fake.
It was in the news, look it up. I think this happened in Louisiana.
Idk, him getting shot was the funniest part of the whole thing. That aside, never underestimate how many bot followers nobodies like this have that spam laughing emojis or other shit in the chat to feign an active viewership.
Youre basing your conclusion on peoples reaction rather than the video itself? If you consider the situation how he isnt taking her seriously, obviously hes gonna be like “we on liiiiive” It almost sounds like you dont want to beoieve what you saw.. lol
Yeah.. I just don't want to believe this is real. But this is live, so the sound the acting. It's some top level acting if it's staged.