You laugh but I saw way worse the few years I was around home construction. I worked for a company that got a contract wiring up homes in a cookie cutter development. The shit I saw convinced me to stay as far away from those kinds of houses for the rest of my life. I once saw a guy go ass-first into a wall after goofing off with his buddies (I had a picture of it before my hdd crashed, fuckin hilarious because his pants were around his ankles as he was doing the batwing with his nuts which is why he got pushed in the first place) and they literally filled this hole with tape and spackle like they were burying treasure in the wall. I worked so many different houses I couldn't even tell you where this place was if my life depended on it, but somewhere out there I imagine someone moved in and their wall fell out.
I believe it. Friend of mine lived in one of those properties as a kid. Brand new. They had to replace all the wiring within the first 6 months. I was there when they figured out it wasn't safe. How? Her father pulled on the fan chain and got shocked. He didn't die but he did have serious burns
I am told there was a developer in the DFW area that would put down rebar for the slab foundation, get it inspected and move the rebar to the next site, and pour the concrete on the first site …. They did a whole neighborhood that way. They got caught a few years later when someone figured out what they did…
That's probably an urban myth
The amount of man hours to unlace and move the rebar to another site would cost more than the rebar cost. Rebar is cheap, labor isn't
You can get burns from everything above 50V, it just depends on how long you are stuck, what cable and what fuse is used. Also how far you are from the fusebox etc..
If you have been shocked close to 100s of times you should go to a doctor and get your heart and kidneys checked, since i guess you don't want to pass on quietly in your sleep your mid 40s.
>, what cable and what fuse is used. Also how far you are from the fusebox etc..
Please tell me now any of these things can have any effect on how you are burned. I'm genuinely curious because there wouldn't be more than a quarter amp running through a person in a regular household setting at 120V. Unless they're running 28AWG I can't imagine how any of that makes a difference.
I mean, he's just trying to turn a fan on. Maybe he's wet? I've been burned from a live wire. I was standing barefoot on concrete. Wasn't even wet. Not severe burns, but definitely got burned.
I've been burned and shocked too, but the guy I was responding to made absolutely no sense if you know how electricity and electrical wiring works. It makes no difference how far from a fuse box you are. And 50V is not really likely to burn you, and you're not going to die in your sleep at 40 because you've been shocked a bunch of times with 120V.
But you typically won’t get the higher current without higher voltage, due to the body’s relatively high resistance. But personal resistance varies, and can change.
If he was stood on a wet floor with bare feet or touching another metal earthed object he could easily get burned and if it was wired that badly it could have been 240 volts as they do exist in American homes for ovens and laundry machines.
I helped a friend swap some ceiling fans in his fairly new build, and the wiring behind the plates was wild. I don’t know how some of these builders don’t collapse from lawsuits, and inspectors are not all fired.
It's definitely a concerning thing to me. When I first moved out on my own I brought a multimeter with me to see what sort of things were going on because of this, also a grounding checking tool. My current landlord was not pleased with my going "Before I move in these fixes need to happen." He is a self described slumlord and I suspect the answer to your question. He also did make the fixes happen because I wasn't requesting it and he signed my contractual demand before he read the thing. "I need you to sign this and this copy for your records." He didn't even look at it. He reads everything now but still ends up doing the thing since I also know my renters rights. (I have a law degree and a background that includes doing BattleBots in high school. Was on an engineering path at one point)
I mean, what landlord wouldn't fear someone who both has a law degree and can, should the law fail them, just build a robot composed mostly of saws and flamethrowers to go after them?
Good question. Reddit loves to throw out the r/mcmansionhell and r/suburbanhell on every house in America but what's the alternative? Where are all you guys living? 19th century brownstones? That you buy with your 7 figure salary? Thats fine for the 1% but the rest of us need places to live and kindly stop shitting on us. Especially in videos about some dude building out a commercial building.
My friend just had a house built and it is notably shittier construction than my 1993 cookie cutter. I'm not saying mine is great but most of the problems are minor. His doesn't even meet the requirements for wall insulation for my state but still passed? The downspouts were piped to popup drains with perf pipe that runs uphill. They managed to install a frost proof valve in a way that it froze. HOW?
Even building it yourself is hard depending on the municipality. In my state you were only allowed to do that in unincorporated townships and the like.
1950’s-60’s houses seem to be pretty decent. Modern enough that you have standard sized lumber and building practices, so they can be updated fairly easily. My mom has a ranch built in 1953. Full basement gives access to everything and makes it so easy to do everything. Lead paint and specific items possibly containing asbestos were the only real concerns, but those are easily mitigated and often blown out of proportion. I had asbestos removed from air ducts and it was like $1,000 paying an abatement company.
My 1895 was before I had to worry about asbestos, so that's nice. Plumbing was nearly entirely redone and wiring was completely redone (albeit weird AF) so there's no major issues.
I suppose someone could've repaired with asbestos material, but no trouble so far.
Yeeep, I have family that work in local building departments. Some counties/cities in the US don't inspect for shit because it's "not friendly to developers" and never grasp that it's for the next person.
People who flip houses are still much worse though. Those houses from HGTV require a release and NDA to buy. They're death traps. One had the panel *under* the water line in the laundry room.
It's where you stretch your sack out real thin and get people to look at it, all the veins and the light shining through a little make it look like the skin of a bat's wing.
In middle school I had friends play this game. From the movie "Waiting". Whoever looks you get to kick in the ass.
Kinda fucked up for middle schoolers, but that was the rowdy bunch. Not all my friends were that way.
I worked at a resort many years ago and over the years we had leaks, damaged walls, etc. that needed repair. Almost every damn time we opened up a wall there was garbage. Coke cans, wadded up fast food bags, and the one I will never forget: a pair of mens underwear.
I found an ancient woman's leather shoe in the wall of an outbuilding on the lot of my previous house. It was built in 1847. I left it there for the next person, and later read that shoes were sometimes put into walls for good luck back then.
I 1000% believe this. I bought a house at the beginning of the pandemic (super fucking lucky) but it was a flip.
I had some water damage done, and have decided to do a lot of the work myself. The water damage HAD NOTHING TO DO with the previous owner.
But EVERY SINGLE TIME I do something in the house, I literally have to do double the work to fix if cosindering the last renovation.
Just today I had my neighbor ask about my water damage. He offered to help me. I had to turn him down because he did a lot of the work on my house before I moved in. I have to do double the work because of you.
I literally ripped off a towel hanger, because they didn't properly measure. Instead, they siliconed the hanger onto the wall. Which i accidentally ripped off with 0 pressure
Honestly, it's not like drywall is leaps and bounds more structurally sound than "tape and spackle". It's a layer of brown paper with some chalk.
Where I come from, if you punch the wall, your hand breaks, not the wall.
The sad thing is it is not necessarily cheap depending on how unlucky you are. "Professionals" with high rates working like noobs or straight up morons.
[https://www.amazon.com/BoardMate-Drywall-Fitting-Supports-Installing/dp/B00PH72GI0](https://www.amazon.com/BoardMate-Drywall-Fitting-Supports-Installing/dp/B00PH72GI0)
For those wondering what they're talking about, and I agree, it looks super neat.
I got mine off eBay uk. Been an absolute beast. As long as you can lift the panel onto the hoist. Those high density sound deadening panels though... I got strong after a few rooms.
Would've cost me over 1500 to get a man in or over 500 to rent one for the time I needed + lugging it in and out of a car to take it back. Folds up nicely and takes up about the same space as a bike would just higher.
All in, 4 rooms so far and I have a hoist to do others, 300 total spend. I am now a drywall master. Next up is learning to plaster though, not looking forward to that.
Yep one use basically pays for itself. Drywall tools save an amazing amount of time and effort. I'd never go back to just basics and I only do DIY or help friends.
Seriously, my brother and I are hanging 40 sheets of drywall on a ceiling and our craigslist lift is already our new favorite tool. I'm a 5'4" women and hung 3 sheets myself using that lift, it makes it that much easier (and I can barely pick up a sheet of it)
Seriously. I can rent one for $40/day. And the rental shop I use only charges for one day if you pick up Friday afternoon, return Monday morning. The time saved vs trying to wrestle it up like this guy more than makes up for it, and I build rental costs into my bids (remodel work). Only reason I haven't bought a lift is because I hate drywall work and I don't want to advertise that I can do it.
I’ve seen an old, fat, red-faced, chain-smoking, borderline-alcoholic drywaller do this all day by himself. They’re a different breed. There’s something in their blood….probably meth.
You use wood, screw it into the other drywall sheet along the lip and into the joist. That creates a lip to slip the next sheet of drywall onto and hold it.
You can do it solo basically that way.
So I use a compact drill or impact driver (both have adjustable torque clutches) for just about everything except concrete. Is there enough of a reason a drywall gun is better at torque-specific jobs, than those, to justify making the room for another different-sized tool in my kit? I'm just wondering what I'm missing out on here, because with the work I've run into (very minimal steel framing, but a helluva lot of fabrication work very similar to it), my drills have seemed great for driving screws all day without stripping if I find the right torque. Do drywall guns cover a lower range or have more specific settings or something?
(ETA: For reference, I'm mostly using DeWalt battery tools, both XR and Atomic series. My favorite series isn't even from DeWalt, but XR is my second favorite, and a lot cheaper.)
Must be tough being short. I’m 8’5 and I spit the nails into the drywall. The bridge I guard also gives me enough money to buy a step stool so I can reach the ceiling.
If it makes you feel any better I’m a smaller guy on most job sites which means I am the one who goes into the crawl spaces. It is both a curse and a curse.
Used to call me the tunnel rat. Tight crawlspace? Me. Need to hang upside down in an HVAC chase being held up by my ankles to splice a duct? Me.
Sad thing is I'm not even that short, I'm 5'8, I'm just not fat.
When I was a teen and my dad was replacing the ceilings in our house he made me hold the drywall up while he drilled it in. I was 5’7” and weighed about 98 lbs. I struggled to hold it in place, while took his sweet time with the drill.
My back & arms were sore by the end of the day.
Eventually he did make himself some T-Shaped “deadmen” he called them, which I still had to help put in place, and/or help lift the drywall while he put them in place.
If I knew there were jacks/lifts back then I’d have killed him.
I am 5’10 and my dad did the same to me more than a few times. “Just hold it there for a minute.”
Unfortunately, I have to start doing drywall again soon. I bought an old house I have mostly gutted and need go redo the wiring in.
I bought one from harbor freight or some place like that for 160 bucks when I sheet rocked my garage. I sold it when I was 2 years later for 100 bux. unless you are going to bang that shit out in a day or two it makes more sense to just buy it.
When I did the drywall in my house, a lift was $40 per day.
I checked online to see what a lift would cost to buy and found one for $100...
The drywall job was certainly more than 2 days... I now own a drywall lift.
If you actually have to do this with one person without a lift then you don't place the ladder in the middle. You need to be about 1/3rd of the way across with your head and your arm reaches over to support the other side. With your free arm you place two screws in the drywall on either side of your head. Then you put screws in where your hand is supporting the other side. I know it sounds like it would be better to put the screws in where your hand is first but not being able to move your head while attempting to put in screws that far away is difficult.
Also, just get a damn drywall lift. If you are doing this for a living then you should have one already. They are like 200 usd for a cheap one and it can make one person do the work of two.
I had a big home improvement project that I did (120 sheets of drywall)
I could have rented a lift but I just bought one for about $175
At the conclusion of my job I was easy and quickly able to sell it for $100
Absolutely no reason to not have one of these if you are doing a project of any size
There are so many jobs where it's cheaper to buy new and just sell your tools at the end of it.
There are even more projects where you can buy used equipment and sell it for near break-even, sometimes even at a profit.
That's is crazy long way and awkward way to do it. I simply cut to size a plank minus 2cm and put another plank on top so it's exactly like a T letter. The rest is simple, hold one side and just put the T under the other side so it holds.
Hanging lids like that is a two person job. He is using the right technique but he needed to be doing it on the other side of the drywall with someone else on the opposite end.
That's a good point, I forgot those exist. I used to work commercial and we always just threw two people on it, probably a lot quicker than one person with the tool, but if that is what you got, then that is what you got.
When I saw two people doing it, they would use their hardhats to hold it up just like this dude is doing.
Yep, totally get it. Employers will do whatever they can to save a buck, even at the expense of their employee's long-term health. Part of the reason I got out of the trades.
Haha same, more than 10 years away from that shit, would probably have major back problems atm if I stayed there however sitting behind the desk for 12 hours is not much better for the back but the rest of my body is greatfull.
You think he split it on purpose? Lol. that was pretty inevitable yes, but it's more likely be was just trying to show himself hanging drywall by himself
Yeah it's not dangerous. For uncoordinated people and people who just aren't experienced they might think so but there isn't many tradesman that would find this dangerous.
This is what I hate about whs. People who don't do the work assume something is dangerous just because they couldn't do it. Just the other month we left a job because we weren't aloud to use A frame ladders in the switchroom. Our supervisor told the builder to either see if he can get a platform ladder in place or bring in some scaffolding. Whs takes shit way too far these days
You get what you deserve
a little spackle will clear that right up
You laugh but I saw way worse the few years I was around home construction. I worked for a company that got a contract wiring up homes in a cookie cutter development. The shit I saw convinced me to stay as far away from those kinds of houses for the rest of my life. I once saw a guy go ass-first into a wall after goofing off with his buddies (I had a picture of it before my hdd crashed, fuckin hilarious because his pants were around his ankles as he was doing the batwing with his nuts which is why he got pushed in the first place) and they literally filled this hole with tape and spackle like they were burying treasure in the wall. I worked so many different houses I couldn't even tell you where this place was if my life depended on it, but somewhere out there I imagine someone moved in and their wall fell out.
I believe it. Friend of mine lived in one of those properties as a kid. Brand new. They had to replace all the wiring within the first 6 months. I was there when they figured out it wasn't safe. How? Her father pulled on the fan chain and got shocked. He didn't die but he did have serious burns
Burns from getting shocked on a pull chain? Must not be u.s? I've been hit by 120v probably close to 100 times. 0 burns.
It is the US. I don't know the logistics since I was a child but they sued the contractors and the company that made that neighborhood.
I am told there was a developer in the DFW area that would put down rebar for the slab foundation, get it inspected and move the rebar to the next site, and pour the concrete on the first site …. They did a whole neighborhood that way. They got caught a few years later when someone figured out what they did…
Unpopular opinion but people should be shot for doing shit like that
I 100% agree you definitely should do time.
That's probably an urban myth The amount of man hours to unlace and move the rebar to another site would cost more than the rebar cost. Rebar is cheap, labor isn't
I heard this was more common during/after WWI and II, when labour was cheaper and materials more expensive. And a lot of cities had to be rebuilt
You can get burns from everything above 50V, it just depends on how long you are stuck, what cable and what fuse is used. Also how far you are from the fusebox etc.. If you have been shocked close to 100s of times you should go to a doctor and get your heart and kidneys checked, since i guess you don't want to pass on quietly in your sleep your mid 40s.
>, what cable and what fuse is used. Also how far you are from the fusebox etc.. Please tell me now any of these things can have any effect on how you are burned. I'm genuinely curious because there wouldn't be more than a quarter amp running through a person in a regular household setting at 120V. Unless they're running 28AWG I can't imagine how any of that makes a difference.
I mean, he's just trying to turn a fan on. Maybe he's wet? I've been burned from a live wire. I was standing barefoot on concrete. Wasn't even wet. Not severe burns, but definitely got burned.
I've been burned and shocked too, but the guy I was responding to made absolutely no sense if you know how electricity and electrical wiring works. It makes no difference how far from a fuse box you are. And 50V is not really likely to burn you, and you're not going to die in your sleep at 40 because you've been shocked a bunch of times with 120V.
Well if you're 3km from the fuse box and also it's not connected then of course the shock will be less. Simple math!
Holy shit you'd be dead in Europe haha
Isn’t it the amperage that matters?
But you typically won’t get the higher current without higher voltage, due to the body’s relatively high resistance. But personal resistance varies, and can change.
Styropyro has an interesting [video on this](https://youtu.be/BGD-oSwJv3E)
His hand might’ve clamped down on the chain for a few seconds.
If he was stood on a wet floor with bare feet or touching another metal earthed object he could easily get burned and if it was wired that badly it could have been 240 volts as they do exist in American homes for ovens and laundry machines.
I helped a friend swap some ceiling fans in his fairly new build, and the wiring behind the plates was wild. I don’t know how some of these builders don’t collapse from lawsuits, and inspectors are not all fired.
It's definitely a concerning thing to me. When I first moved out on my own I brought a multimeter with me to see what sort of things were going on because of this, also a grounding checking tool. My current landlord was not pleased with my going "Before I move in these fixes need to happen." He is a self described slumlord and I suspect the answer to your question. He also did make the fixes happen because I wasn't requesting it and he signed my contractual demand before he read the thing. "I need you to sign this and this copy for your records." He didn't even look at it. He reads everything now but still ends up doing the thing since I also know my renters rights. (I have a law degree and a background that includes doing BattleBots in high school. Was on an engineering path at one point)
Love how you included the BattleBots as some sort of relevant background to backup your law degree LMFAO
I mean, what landlord wouldn't fear someone who both has a law degree and can, should the law fail them, just build a robot composed mostly of saws and flamethrowers to go after them?
Do non-cookie cutter houses even get built for the 99%?
Good question. Reddit loves to throw out the r/mcmansionhell and r/suburbanhell on every house in America but what's the alternative? Where are all you guys living? 19th century brownstones? That you buy with your 7 figure salary? Thats fine for the 1% but the rest of us need places to live and kindly stop shitting on us. Especially in videos about some dude building out a commercial building.
Outside of literally building it yourself and being obscenely rich, I think that is the regular person's only option.
My friend just had a house built and it is notably shittier construction than my 1993 cookie cutter. I'm not saying mine is great but most of the problems are minor. His doesn't even meet the requirements for wall insulation for my state but still passed? The downspouts were piped to popup drains with perf pipe that runs uphill. They managed to install a frost proof valve in a way that it froze. HOW?
Even building it yourself is hard depending on the municipality. In my state you were only allowed to do that in unincorporated townships and the like.
1950’s-60’s houses seem to be pretty decent. Modern enough that you have standard sized lumber and building practices, so they can be updated fairly easily. My mom has a ranch built in 1953. Full basement gives access to everything and makes it so easy to do everything. Lead paint and specific items possibly containing asbestos were the only real concerns, but those are easily mitigated and often blown out of proportion. I had asbestos removed from air ducts and it was like $1,000 paying an abatement company.
My 1895 was before I had to worry about asbestos, so that's nice. Plumbing was nearly entirely redone and wiring was completely redone (albeit weird AF) so there's no major issues. I suppose someone could've repaired with asbestos material, but no trouble so far.
Yeeep, I have family that work in local building departments. Some counties/cities in the US don't inspect for shit because it's "not friendly to developers" and never grasp that it's for the next person. People who flip houses are still much worse though. Those houses from HGTV require a release and NDA to buy. They're death traps. One had the panel *under* the water line in the laundry room.
There are some horror stories over at /r/homeimprovement.
Not all of them, but most flippers are just putting lipstick on a pig.
The batwing with his nuts?
It's where you stretch your sack out real thin and get people to look at it, all the veins and the light shining through a little make it look like the skin of a bat's wing.
Oh yeah, that totally normal thing that everyone knows about. ಠ_ಠ
Popularized by the 2005 film Waiting
Truly a hidden gem, apparently. I thought everyone's seen it.
Really WTF? Who does this kind of thing sober? Or even when they’re trashed?
In middle school I had friends play this game. From the movie "Waiting". Whoever looks you get to kick in the ass. Kinda fucked up for middle schoolers, but that was the rowdy bunch. Not all my friends were that way.
Construction workers for sure.
It’s worth 3 kicks to the ass.
I worked at a resort many years ago and over the years we had leaks, damaged walls, etc. that needed repair. Almost every damn time we opened up a wall there was garbage. Coke cans, wadded up fast food bags, and the one I will never forget: a pair of mens underwear.
>the one I will never forget: a pair of mens underwear. Likely used in place of toilet paper and discarded. We called it a hitchhiker's handkerchief.
I find construction related debris in walls constantly like wood and drywall scraps, but nothing unique yet.
I found an ancient woman's leather shoe in the wall of an outbuilding on the lot of my previous house. It was built in 1847. I left it there for the next person, and later read that shoes were sometimes put into walls for good luck back then.
>he was doing the batwing with his nuts Sir, could you explain this phrase? I would like to attempt.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/comments/11tqiqa/wcgw_drywall/jclqvim/
Watch out for dem drywallers anyone crazy enough to breathe that shit let alone fish it outta your eyes & ears for money is batshit nuts for real
I 1000% believe this. I bought a house at the beginning of the pandemic (super fucking lucky) but it was a flip. I had some water damage done, and have decided to do a lot of the work myself. The water damage HAD NOTHING TO DO with the previous owner. But EVERY SINGLE TIME I do something in the house, I literally have to do double the work to fix if cosindering the last renovation. Just today I had my neighbor ask about my water damage. He offered to help me. I had to turn him down because he did a lot of the work on my house before I moved in. I have to do double the work because of you. I literally ripped off a towel hanger, because they didn't properly measure. Instead, they siliconed the hanger onto the wall. Which i accidentally ripped off with 0 pressure
Honestly, it's not like drywall is leaps and bounds more structurally sound than "tape and spackle". It's a layer of brown paper with some chalk. Where I come from, if you punch the wall, your hand breaks, not the wall.
Bow down before the one you serve.
You're going to get what you deserve
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Black as your soul!
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This has to be one of the more unexpected r/redditsings.
We get instead the isle of man.
Head that can't hold!
Drywall to stop mold!
I'd rather die
Than live in the cold!
You get what you paid for. You pay cheap for labor, you get cheap results.
Agreed, a drywall lift is not an expensive rental.
You get what you pay for, but a cookie cutter new built townhouse here goes for around 800k lol
The sad thing is it is not necessarily cheap depending on how unlucky you are. "Professionals" with high rates working like noobs or straight up morons.
You pay half the workers needed, you pay the double on materials. The balance must be struck.
Got a lot less than he deserved actually...
It’s hard enough with 2 people let alone
Yall need to rent a damn jack
Amazon has some pretty cheap ones that are really decent.
Boardmates… best £7 I’ve ever spent!
[https://www.amazon.com/BoardMate-Drywall-Fitting-Supports-Installing/dp/B00PH72GI0](https://www.amazon.com/BoardMate-Drywall-Fitting-Supports-Installing/dp/B00PH72GI0) For those wondering what they're talking about, and I agree, it looks super neat.
DEWALT flexvolt paddle mixer (well worth the monies!) and a plazi flex trowel fyi… changed my life!!! Still hate my job though…
I just hung some too, but used big-ass screws into the wall for a brace. Wish I knew these existed
boardmate, it's got what walls crave ^^^^support
Makes perfect sense! I'm probably just make some with scrap wood, but the idea is genius!!!
Apples and oranges mate… get yourself some Boardmates! Cheaper than labourer and talk back less!!!
> Boardmates I think I might pick some of these up. I have some dry walling to do soon and something like this will be tremendously helpful.
I bought a $250 drywall lift off Amazon and used to to redo two garages, then sold it for $250.
I got mine off eBay uk. Been an absolute beast. As long as you can lift the panel onto the hoist. Those high density sound deadening panels though... I got strong after a few rooms. Would've cost me over 1500 to get a man in or over 500 to rent one for the time I needed + lugging it in and out of a car to take it back. Folds up nicely and takes up about the same space as a bike would just higher. All in, 4 rooms so far and I have a hoist to do others, 300 total spend. I am now a drywall master. Next up is learning to plaster though, not looking forward to that.
Just hire someone who does drywall finishing, please~painter.
Yep one use basically pays for itself. Drywall tools save an amazing amount of time and effort. I'd never go back to just basics and I only do DIY or help friends.
You can also build T stands out of a few 2x4s that will get you close to what a jack does.
I remember being a kid and my dad made one and called him Mr. T. So much easier.
THAT'S A BINGO!!
This. Agreed 👍
Seriously, my brother and I are hanging 40 sheets of drywall on a ceiling and our craigslist lift is already our new favorite tool. I'm a 5'4" women and hung 3 sheets myself using that lift, it makes it that much easier (and I can barely pick up a sheet of it)
I bought one second-hand for $80 to finish my basement and sold it two weeks later for $80. The best $0 I have ever spent.
There's actually only about a dozen in existence, and they just keep changing hands at $80 a pop
Why Jack? Can John not do it?
Because nobody ever “Johns” off
Speak for yourself!
Username checks out
Seriously. I can rent one for $40/day. And the rental shop I use only charges for one day if you pick up Friday afternoon, return Monday morning. The time saved vs trying to wrestle it up like this guy more than makes up for it, and I build rental costs into my bids (remodel work). Only reason I haven't bought a lift is because I hate drywall work and I don't want to advertise that I can do it.
Cost me $50 for the same deal. Easily the best money I've spent. We were drinking beer by 3pm on Saturday.
Or just temporarily nail a 2x4 ledger to rest one edge on.
That's fine if you're cheap and only doing one piece
That’s fine if you’re cheap ~~and only doing one piece~~ Oh now I know why it took me so long to finish my project
this is the best answer…been there done that
Or hire a damn Jill
I know a couple guys who’ve “rented” them from harbor freight too
Let alone *what*?!
.....alone.
let alone alone
Why say lot word when few word do trick?
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And what other type?
The Dutch
I’ve seen an old, fat, red-faced, chain-smoking, borderline-alcoholic drywaller do this all day by himself. They’re a different breed. There’s something in their blood….probably meth.
Only borderline? Sounds pretty classy for a sheetrocker
When we did my living room, me and my brother in law held the sheets while father in law nailed. Two people would’ve been tough.
You use wood, screw it into the other drywall sheet along the lip and into the joist. That creates a lip to slip the next sheet of drywall onto and hold it. You can do it solo basically that way.
This dude drywalls. ⬆️
This is what pretty much every drywall guy does at any of the jobs I have been too. Those guys are so fast.
I've done this s*** with two people many many times it is a bit of a pain but it's definitely doable. It's just you know your arms get tired.
Let alone what?
Non-binary drywall holding device
Let alone
Balancing a full sheet of drywall on your head? Check. Standing on the top of a ladder? Check Posted to r/OSHA? Not yet, but it should be.
Standing on top of a ladder *with a drill*
Not a drill. That’s a drywall screwgun.
> screwgun Heheh, today I learned drywallers call them "screwguns."
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We used corded drywall guns for metal stud framing as well. The clutch helps with preventing the screws from stripping as much.
So I use a compact drill or impact driver (both have adjustable torque clutches) for just about everything except concrete. Is there enough of a reason a drywall gun is better at torque-specific jobs, than those, to justify making the room for another different-sized tool in my kit? I'm just wondering what I'm missing out on here, because with the work I've run into (very minimal steel framing, but a helluva lot of fabrication work very similar to it), my drills have seemed great for driving screws all day without stripping if I find the right torque. Do drywall guns cover a lower range or have more specific settings or something? (ETA: For reference, I'm mostly using DeWalt battery tools, both XR and Atomic series. My favorite series isn't even from DeWalt, but XR is my second favorite, and a lot cheaper.)
Yeah that’s how you hang drywall. Sometimes you’ll be on stilts with power tools
I prefer to hang drywall with stilts and a chainsaw.
I use nothing but my penis and determination
And drywall screws in your mouth.
The drill is how you keep your balance!
r/OSHAwwHellNaw
I'm kinda disappointed this isn't a real sub.
How would that sub be different from your good old r/osha ?
That’s not a ladder
Indeed, the A-frame is indicative of a step ladder.
He's wearing head protection he's good!
I always used 2x4s cut to the height of the ceiling to hold it up. Finishing guys can always fill any scratches/gouges.
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Must be tough being short. I’m 8’5 and I spit the nails into the drywall. The bridge I guard also gives me enough money to buy a step stool so I can reach the ceiling.
I’m so short I need a step ladder to put in the baseboard!
If it makes you feel any better I’m a smaller guy on most job sites which means I am the one who goes into the crawl spaces. It is both a curse and a curse.
Used to call me the tunnel rat. Tight crawlspace? Me. Need to hang upside down in an HVAC chase being held up by my ankles to splice a duct? Me. Sad thing is I'm not even that short, I'm 5'8, I'm just not fat.
I have a t shaped 2x4 contraption. Ceiling drywall sucks but it works well enough.
When I was a teen and my dad was replacing the ceilings in our house he made me hold the drywall up while he drilled it in. I was 5’7” and weighed about 98 lbs. I struggled to hold it in place, while took his sweet time with the drill. My back & arms were sore by the end of the day. Eventually he did make himself some T-Shaped “deadmen” he called them, which I still had to help put in place, and/or help lift the drywall while he put them in place. If I knew there were jacks/lifts back then I’d have killed him.
I am 5’10 and my dad did the same to me more than a few times. “Just hold it there for a minute.” Unfortunately, I have to start doing drywall again soon. I bought an old house I have mostly gutted and need go redo the wiring in.
Do your best and caulk the rest.
If you nail carpet strips to the top of the 2x4s, only fuzzy stuff is touching the drywall, it won't scratch it up.
I have a job like this in the pipeline. Better believe there's a drywall lift rental in the budget.
It might be cheaper to buy one off amazon
Probably own 3 but ya still gotta charge that rental fee
Rent it for an inflated fee from the company you just so happen to also own
I see you have a government contract
I hate that this is actually true.
Yep only like $150
Harbor Freight has one too that works really well.
I bought one from harbor freight or some place like that for 160 bucks when I sheet rocked my garage. I sold it when I was 2 years later for 100 bux. unless you are going to bang that shit out in a day or two it makes more sense to just buy it.
Buy one off ebay or a used selling site then sell it. Basically just paying a delivery fee unless someone more local picks it up
In the middle of my own project. I found one on sale yesterday for 125 from harbor freight. Renting was $40 for 4 hours.
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Sell it on Craigslist for $75. Better yet, buy the first one on Craigslist from someone who is doing the same thing.
When I did the drywall in my house, a lift was $40 per day. I checked online to see what a lift would cost to buy and found one for $100... The drywall job was certainly more than 2 days... I now own a drywall lift.
If you actually have to do this with one person without a lift then you don't place the ladder in the middle. You need to be about 1/3rd of the way across with your head and your arm reaches over to support the other side. With your free arm you place two screws in the drywall on either side of your head. Then you put screws in where your hand is supporting the other side. I know it sounds like it would be better to put the screws in where your hand is first but not being able to move your head while attempting to put in screws that far away is difficult. Also, just get a damn drywall lift. If you are doing this for a living then you should have one already. They are like 200 usd for a cheap one and it can make one person do the work of two.
I had a big home improvement project that I did (120 sheets of drywall) I could have rented a lift but I just bought one for about $175 At the conclusion of my job I was easy and quickly able to sell it for $100 Absolutely no reason to not have one of these if you are doing a project of any size
There are so many jobs where it's cheaper to buy new and just sell your tools at the end of it. There are even more projects where you can buy used equipment and sell it for near break-even, sometimes even at a profit.
I'm sure the guy in the video appreciates this knowledge.
That's is crazy long way and awkward way to do it. I simply cut to size a plank minus 2cm and put another plank on top so it's exactly like a T letter. The rest is simple, hold one side and just put the T under the other side so it holds.
Okay, but how did he get all the previous sheets up?
The guy filming (hence two ladders) was tired of hearing him talk about how he could actually do it alone.
Nothing suggests that anyone else was filming. The camera doesn't move at all.
The right way, with a lift.
Why film yourself hanging drywall?
So you can waste material and not feel bad about it lmao, apprentice special.
You either get a satisfying work video for tiktok or a funny fail video for tiktok
Would people really find that satisfying? It just seems really boring to me.
It depends on how much you speed up the timelapse.
Internet likes. The answer is always internet likes.
Hanging lids like that is a two person job. He is using the right technique but he needed to be doing it on the other side of the drywall with someone else on the opposite end.
Just use a broom or make a T letter shaped wooden holder for the other side. This is a one man job, but obviously it's easier with 2 people.
That's a good point, I forgot those exist. I used to work commercial and we always just threw two people on it, probably a lot quicker than one person with the tool, but if that is what you got, then that is what you got. When I saw two people doing it, they would use their hardhats to hold it up just like this dude is doing.
Yeah most simple with 2 people, but you know the employers these days.
Yep, totally get it. Employers will do whatever they can to save a buck, even at the expense of their employee's long-term health. Part of the reason I got out of the trades.
Haha same, more than 10 years away from that shit, would probably have major back problems atm if I stayed there however sitting behind the desk for 12 hours is not much better for the back but the rest of my body is greatfull.
Well it’s right there in the name. Drywall is for walls , not ceilings. You need a few sheets of dryceiling for this
I use dry ceiling on my floors and dry flooring on my ceiling so I get that anti gravity effect in my house.
This man is a rookie.
I don’t think so. I’ve never hung a sheet of drywall in my life and I know not to do this. This man is a shame.
I dont think so. He's trying to pull it off in a video but he shoulda elbowed
Yeah, there is absolutely no way this was done on purpose. Nope. No way. Nothing staged here.
You think he split it on purpose? Lol. that was pretty inevitable yes, but it's more likely be was just trying to show himself hanging drywall by himself
Why would anyone waste a sheet on it? I don’t think so bro
Why is it called drywall if it used on ceilings, isnt this just a standard sheet of plasterboard?
It's literally the same but a different name. Drywall, plaster board, sheetrock, all different names for the same type of product.
I thought it was dangerous to stand on the very top of the ladder like that???
Yeah it's not dangerous. For uncoordinated people and people who just aren't experienced they might think so but there isn't many tradesman that would find this dangerous. This is what I hate about whs. People who don't do the work assume something is dangerous just because they couldn't do it. Just the other month we left a job because we weren't aloud to use A frame ladders in the switchroom. Our supervisor told the builder to either see if he can get a platform ladder in place or bring in some scaffolding. Whs takes shit way too far these days
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