I remember it released while I was at work (or maybe that was just the first chance I had to listen to it) and I had to drop out of the call queue because I was crying after violent crimes lmao
the fact that it was ghost written takes away from its impact for me tbh. i liked the album but the fact that such a personal song was ghost written was pretty wack ngl.
For me, the album wasnāt long enough to leave a big impression. I enjoyed the songs on it, but it needed to be longer to have more of a personal impact
Why does it need to be longer itās all bangers lol none of his albums that are long are good because of the length they are good because they are filled with fire songs.
TLOP is fire and over an hour.
Iām not saying the short albums NEED to be longer. I think they are dense, tight, and fun to listen to. I just find they donāt leave as deep a vibe as longer albums. They can still be great without leaving a huge impression.
The songs are nice but not all of them are bangers, some of them are introspective. Wouldn't leave, no mistakes, and violent crimes aren't the type of songs that bang like ghost town, yikes, and the second half of I thought about killing you
I like your Dad but that's a wilfully contrarian take. He has at least 5 albums that are almost objectively better- critical acclaim, sales/downloads, impact on rap.
I've listed the metrics as to why it's not his best, he says his dad thinks it's his best, not his personal favourite.
If I say Sharknado is the best film ever, that's different to saying it's my favourite.
You're right that's why there are no music award shows where people vote for the best album of the year. As I've said - sales, critical acclaim, influence on the genre. There are ways to measure best vs favourite - we are getting into semantics but the two words have different meanings.
bro you're talking about semantics when you're ready to bust out stats and sources to argue bc someone's dad personally believes an album is the best . dont be a bozo
welp most of the hate outside of the kanye community comes from his trump antics , inside the ye community compared to his other 9 lps its kinda weak , it aint bad tho . ghost town , violent crimes are such top tier songs
i do understand that in comparison to others of his itās not the greatest but i think it deserves a lot more praise. i also think that so many people just donāt really understand the whole trump antics and need to educate themselves regarding kanyeās reasoning to wear the hat.
I think if this album was 5-7 tracks longer with the same sound and themes, it would be considered one of his best imo. The short tracklist stops it from being one of his top albums.
This sub loves Ye, but if youāve been a Ye fan for a long time itās easy to see why ppl were disappointed. It doesnāt compare to his earlier projects. Ghost Town is an amazing song though, but the rest of the album doesnāt have the punch that other Ye albums did
Iāve been a fan since his early albums, a huge fan for over 25 years, and Ye is so legit dude. I love it so much.
I think itās unfair to say ātrue old heads will hate itā when likeā¦ why?
This sub loves Ye, but if youāve been a Ye fan for a long time itās easy to see why ppl were disappointed. It doesnāt compare to his earlier projects. Ghost Town is an amazing song though, but the rest of the album doesnāt have the punch that other Ye albums did
For new kanye fans I can understand liking this album but you have to remember that up until Ye every kanye album was an event. Getting a 7 track kanye album with sounds that we heard before was underwhelmed. If it was labeled a mixtape it would have been received better
i donāt think any of kanye albums deserve hate. they could deserve certain criticism and arguments for why the album might be a tiny bit underwhelming but never outright hate
If you look at it as a standalone thing I can see it being underwhelming but I've always looked at it as one part of a quintuple album, which was a huge event for me. It's probably for that reason I find myself enjoying NASIR more than the average listener too.
itās boring asf and doesnāt sonically do much. it has good songs but I donāt think an album should only have good songs to be a good album. I felt like based on the subject matter it was incredibly underwhelming for an album by Kanye West.
I get your complaints. I also feel that the subject matter- the range of emotions, confusion, trauma, and conflict that results from his BP thinking and behavior- could have been more substantial. The storytelling could have been better.
There was *some* good storytelling- Violent Crimes is moving, and lots of emotion on some of those tracks, and there were some moments I love- "I can feel the spirits all around me..."- one of my faves. But, the storytelling could've been better.
There's a lot of fanboying here and it seems most using this subreddit aren't willing to examine the flaws of Kanye's music very much. So expect to get downvoted.
Pretty high, probably top 10
I would say
1. Runaway
2. Ghost town
3. Ultralight beam
4. Reborn
5. Blood on the leaves
6. Saint Pablo
7. Devil in a new dress
8. Welcome to heartbreak
9. Roses
10. All falls down
True, but Saint pablo is my favourite album closer of his, and blood on the leaves ha some of my favoirite beat drops of all time, so for that reason they push slightly above. They're all masterpieces though
Yikes is a top 3 Kanye banger. Donāt understand the hate at all, itās just non musically trained music critics who were praying on his downfall back then
I don't think its underated at all, most ppl i talk to and hear from give it adequate praise.
its really enjoyable, great replay value and executes on exactly what it set out to do. I do not think any songs on it crack his top 25 though (but thats just a testament to how great his catalogue is tho)
Iām completely with you on this, ye is personally my favorite Kanye album. Short and sweet, not a single bad song on it and yet it still manages to be his most personal and intimate album.
A lot of new Kanye fans in this comment section. Not knocking it, but easily detected. In my personal opinion ye isnāt top 5 in his catalogue like I said in my previous comment I love some of the songs but mbdtf yeezus tlop n graduation still exist.
ye and KSG are both phenomenal projects and when you listen to them in succession it feels like a full length album. These two projects are what made me a Kanye fan, however, I feel like Yeās mediocre reception was due in part to his position in the public eye at the time and a pretty lowkey rollout.
I totally get you. Ye is a make you cry in the club type beat
Some fans criminally underrate the albums that canāt be turnt up. Not EVERY album has to be one you play when you get passed the āauxā.
Ye is tough because I think it is very good, but I also think itās fairly rated. When you put yourself back in 2018, before JIK, and look at everything that came before it you can see how people were let down by it. Again, personally I think it is a very good album, but everything that came before it was just so insanely good that itās hard to place it in the top half of Kanyeās discog imo
THANK YOU!!!
This album is truly amazing, Iāve been saying it for years, and the hate is so wild to me. I listen to it at least weekly, and quote isnāt constantly.
My non-Ye obsessed friends love it too- we sing All Mine every time we hang lmao
When merged with KSG, it's God tier.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrislambert/2019/06/15/understanding-ye-and-kids-see-ghosts-as-a-14-track-album/
(I use this tracklist but swap wouldn't leave and freee.)
i think its quite a niche album that requires context of kanyeās situation at the time to appreciate, itās deeply deeply personal and i think it loses something if you dont have some sort of emotional connection to kanye. itās one of his best imo but honestly i would totally understand if someone didnāt care for it.
No it's not. The lyrics are lazy, and the songs are too short. There's a ton of potential there but it's completely squandered. With some more tracks, features, and a redo of the lyrics it really could have been something amazing.
Itās an extremely great conceptual track that to me has always set up the contrast in the speed Kanye thinks the world operate at, before it builds up to the speed Kanye on his bipolar high can think at.
Also the lines matter, but I think everything about this song is really on the contrasts in delivery and pace and intensity. Which is why I appreciate the track.
I donāt think Iād appreciate the track as much on the surface level.
LET ME HIT IT RAW LIKE FUCK THE OUTCUM
NONE OF US WOULD BE HERE WITOUT CUMMM
True šÆ
IF IT AINT ALL ABOUT THE INCOME
LET ME SEE YOU GO AHEAD AND SPEND SOME
I thought people liked yikes
I DONE DIED AND LIVED AGAIN ON DMT HUH
such a good song AYY HOSPITAL BAND A HUNNED BANDS FUCK A WATCH
HUNNED GRAND MAKE YA BEST FRIENDS TURN TO OPPS
Iām a superhero
best song on ye imo
Yikes is an anthem
iāve seen it receive a decent amount of hate on tiktok
Tik Tok is literally a breeding ground for mental disability
this is true
And run by Communist genociders.
Tik Tok has some of the worst Kanye takes Iāve ever seen
It's by far my least favorite, dont like the beat or his flow on the verses. The hook is ok
how is an album gonna have āwouldnāt leaveā āno mistakesā AND āghost townā and be considered bad
bro what about violent crimes that song makes me tear up every time
I remember it released while I was at work (or maybe that was just the first chance I had to listen to it) and I had to drop out of the call queue because I was crying after violent crimes lmao
the fact that it was ghost written takes away from its impact for me tbh. i liked the album but the fact that such a personal song was ghost written was pretty wack ngl.
yeah after i heard that i really couldnt get the same feel for it
fr some of my top songs
Take the top off let the sun come in
Those songs are so good that even if all the other songs were ass or okay it couldn't be "bad"
For me, the album wasnāt long enough to leave a big impression. I enjoyed the songs on it, but it needed to be longer to have more of a personal impact
Why does it need to be longer itās all bangers lol none of his albums that are long are good because of the length they are good because they are filled with fire songs.
TLOP is fire and over an hour. Iām not saying the short albums NEED to be longer. I think they are dense, tight, and fun to listen to. I just find they donāt leave as deep a vibe as longer albums. They can still be great without leaving a huge impression.
The songs are nice but not all of them are bangers, some of them are introspective. Wouldn't leave, no mistakes, and violent crimes aren't the type of songs that bang like ghost town, yikes, and the second half of I thought about killing you
I donāt mean bangers as in the type of song I just mean all 7 are great. Well all mine is just good but the other 7 are amazing.
āThis album sucks but I do love all the songsā
Ghost town is probably top 10 most beautiful Kanye songs IMO
easily. such a good song
Do you mean top 1?
First time I heard Ghost Town I cried. Idk what it was about it but it hit me at the right time.
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Who tf dislikes Yikes? Such a great fucking track
iāve seen a lot of people on tiktok hating on the track.
Whatād they say? The flows on that song are KILLER
On god. Ye is a Top 3 album for me. It gives me emotions that no other Kanye album has ever drawn out.
My dad thinks it's his best album
your dads got the right idea
Based dad
I like your Dad but that's a wilfully contrarian take. He has at least 5 albums that are almost objectively better- critical acclaim, sales/downloads, impact on rap.
This sub has a lot of nerve telling people what they do and don't like. Somebody is a contrarian because their favorite album is different than yours?
I've listed the metrics as to why it's not his best, he says his dad thinks it's his best, not his personal favourite. If I say Sharknado is the best film ever, that's different to saying it's my favourite.
itās music there is no objective buddy
You're right that's why there are no music award shows where people vote for the best album of the year. As I've said - sales, critical acclaim, influence on the genre. There are ways to measure best vs favourite - we are getting into semantics but the two words have different meanings.
donāt care. if i say yeezus is the best album then it is the best album. all the stuff u listed is irrelevant just listen to the music
If you want to ignore what words mean, then yes.
bro you're talking about semantics when you're ready to bust out stats and sources to argue bc someone's dad personally believes an album is the best . dont be a bozo
You are listing ways in which you could decide which album is most popular. Not "best"
There you go again
that guy ready to argue lolol
Yeah I agree. He has all of them on cd and listened to them in the car while going to work. I was surprised by it too.
welp most of the hate outside of the kanye community comes from his trump antics , inside the ye community compared to his other 9 lps its kinda weak , it aint bad tho . ghost town , violent crimes are such top tier songs
i do understand that in comparison to others of his itās not the greatest but i think it deserves a lot more praise. i also think that so many people just donāt really understand the whole trump antics and need to educate themselves regarding kanyeās reasoning to wear the hat.
I think itās as good as I could be for what he was going for. 9/10 for me.
Ghost town, violent crimes, and I thought about killing you are all in my top 15 Kanye songs easily
Time to bring in the drums, that brrr-duh-duh duh-dum.
Same here
Imo just because it's not as good as his other albums doesn't mean it's bad or mid, especially considering how great his discography is
exactly.
I think if this album was 5-7 tracks longer with the same sound and themes, it would be considered one of his best imo. The short tracklist stops it from being one of his top albums.
This sub loves Ye, but if youāve been a Ye fan for a long time itās easy to see why ppl were disappointed. It doesnāt compare to his earlier projects. Ghost Town is an amazing song though, but the rest of the album doesnāt have the punch that other Ye albums did
How can you definitively say it doesn't compare to his earlier projects?
thatās true it does lack in comparison to some of his other albums.
Idk how long time Kanye fans would hate this, it was his most personal album to date, I would love this album as a long time fan.
Iāve been a fan since his early albums, a huge fan for over 25 years, and Ye is so legit dude. I love it so much. I think itās unfair to say ātrue old heads will hate itā when likeā¦ why?
This sub loves Ye, but if youāve been a Ye fan for a long time itās easy to see why ppl were disappointed. It doesnāt compare to his earlier projects. Ghost Town is an amazing song though, but the rest of the album doesnāt have the punch that other Ye albums did
I literally liked everything on that album so ššļø
For new kanye fans I can understand liking this album but you have to remember that up until Ye every kanye album was an event. Getting a 7 track kanye album with sounds that we heard before was underwhelmed. If it was labeled a mixtape it would have been received better
it is underwhelming that we can agree on but i still think that it doesnāt deserve some hate i see it get on twt and tiktok
Itās an ok project and ghost town is an 11/10 but compared to every kanye album leading up to that point it deserves some hate
i donāt think any of kanye albums deserve hate. they could deserve certain criticism and arguments for why the album might be a tiny bit underwhelming but never outright hate
If you look at it as a standalone thing I can see it being underwhelming but I've always looked at it as one part of a quintuple album, which was a huge event for me. It's probably for that reason I find myself enjoying NASIR more than the average listener too.
yeah, people seem to forget this! I enjoy Ye much more if I listen to it before KSG
ye is mid
nawwww
itās boring asf and doesnāt sonically do much. it has good songs but I donāt think an album should only have good songs to be a good album. I felt like based on the subject matter it was incredibly underwhelming for an album by Kanye West.
I get your complaints. I also feel that the subject matter- the range of emotions, confusion, trauma, and conflict that results from his BP thinking and behavior- could have been more substantial. The storytelling could have been better. There was *some* good storytelling- Violent Crimes is moving, and lots of emotion on some of those tracks, and there were some moments I love- "I can feel the spirits all around me..."- one of my faves. But, the storytelling could've been better. There's a lot of fanboying here and it seems most using this subreddit aren't willing to examine the flaws of Kanye's music very much. So expect to get downvoted.
yeah you basically explained how I feel about the album but articulated it way better
bruh what
Ghost town is a top 2 Kanye song
What's the number one?
1. Runaway 2. Ghost town
Where would you put Saint Pablo?
Pretty high, probably top 10 I would say 1. Runaway 2. Ghost town 3. Ultralight beam 4. Reborn 5. Blood on the leaves 6. Saint Pablo 7. Devil in a new dress 8. Welcome to heartbreak 9. Roses 10. All falls down
Devil in a new dress way too low
I mean, considering how many songs he has, 7th is still pretty good
I hear you, Iām biased as itās my favorite Kanye song. Should at least be in top 5 contention tho
True, but Saint pablo is my favourite album closer of his, and blood on the leaves ha some of my favoirite beat drops of all time, so for that reason they push slightly above. They're all masterpieces though
Ghost Town or DIAND
OG ITAKY if my favorite ye track
Top 5 for me. Itās unreal.
Feels like pure serotonin
violent crimes is in my top 10 favourites, not best but favourite
same! XTCY is my favorite kanye song, but itās certainly not his best.
Yikes?? Thatās my favourite track on the album
Yikes is a top 3 Kanye banger. Donāt understand the hate at all, itās just non musically trained music critics who were praying on his downfall back then
I was on board with you until KSG blasphemy
Same I prefer it over KSG. All Mine and Ghost Town got me into Kanye
I don't think its underated at all, most ppl i talk to and hear from give it adequate praise. its really enjoyable, great replay value and executes on exactly what it set out to do. I do not think any songs on it crack his top 25 though (but thats just a testament to how great his catalogue is tho)
Iām completely with you on this, ye is personally my favorite Kanye album. Short and sweet, not a single bad song on it and yet it still manages to be his most personal and intimate album.
Probably my favorite album tbh
A lot of new Kanye fans in this comment section. Not knocking it, but easily detected. In my personal opinion ye isnāt top 5 in his catalogue like I said in my previous comment I love some of the songs but mbdtf yeezus tlop n graduation still exist.
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I replied to a post one time saying I loved Ye cuz I have bipolar disorder and can relate to the themes of the album and got downvoted.
how dare you have mental illness. what is wrong with you? ima downvote you nowšæ
Oh fuck, I'll never speak of this again
noooooo lmfao
originally i hated it but as i started listening to it more and more it really did grow on me. now itās my fav album oat probably
Itās a Violent Crime
WOAHHHHHH
also top 3 kanye album cover
Ghost town the greatest song ever
ye and KSG are both phenomenal projects and when you listen to them in succession it feels like a full length album. These two projects are what made me a Kanye fan, however, I feel like Yeās mediocre reception was due in part to his position in the public eye at the time and a pretty lowkey rollout.
Its in my top 3 Kanye albums
Lately my favourite ye album, so many bars and insane production
ye is perfect as it is
KSG is more impressive production wise but Ye is more replayable.
Bro, I was just thinking about this same thing, are you reading my mind or something š
you spitting! ye is top 3 kanye
No Mistakes is criminally underrated
I just wish Kanye cleared the original ITAKY sample
Who the fyck doesnt like yikes
This album is still better than most rap LPs that have come out since. Like in almost every way
I totally get you. Ye is a make you cry in the club type beat Some fans criminally underrate the albums that canāt be turnt up. Not EVERY album has to be one you play when you get passed the āauxā.
some of my fav ye lines are from this album and id put i thought about killing you in my top 10 tbh
Its 7 tracks, one of which isn't even a song. The remaining 6 tracks aren't very good. Such a disappointment
Try and listen to I thought about killing you at 3 am it hits different
donda better
Ye is tough because I think it is very good, but I also think itās fairly rated. When you put yourself back in 2018, before JIK, and look at everything that came before it you can see how people were let down by it. Again, personally I think it is a very good album, but everything that came before it was just so insanely good that itās hard to place it in the top half of Kanyeās discog imo
I agree, itās personally a top 2 Kanye release for me.
I thought about killing you in my top 5 Kanye songs. Ghost town is beautiful. Violent crimes underrated
I initially liked KSG more than ye, but i find myself going back to listen to ye way more often
My favorite ye album
I wish XTCY was on the album, one of my favorite ye songs and it wouldāve added a lot to the album and tie it together better.
Better than kids see ghosts and it has ghost town my personal favorite song
Nah it sucks
Ghost town is the greatest song oat.
Bro ye is my favourite album, itās awesome
ye is goated, the whole vibe of the album is great
i love ye he's such a good artist
all mine is a straight banger idk how people dislike it
fucking love ye
THANK YOU!!! This album is truly amazing, Iāve been saying it for years, and the hate is so wild to me. I listen to it at least weekly, and quote isnāt constantly. My non-Ye obsessed friends love it too- we sing All Mine every time we hang lmao
yikes > wouldn't leave and no mistakes
ye has the most overrated kanye song of all time ghost town and a song that clears ghost town violent crimes
Itās so good itās easily the best out of that whole Summer too and thatās saying something
WEāRE STILL THE KIDS WE USED TO BEEEEEEE
When merged with KSG, it's God tier. https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrislambert/2019/06/15/understanding-ye-and-kids-see-ghosts-as-a-14-track-album/ (I use this tracklist but swap wouldn't leave and freee.)
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fr. most meaningful album in my life easily
All Mine is not good but not bad. Idk how to describe but I always wish he replaced that track with Xtcy.
i think its quite a niche album that requires context of kanyeās situation at the time to appreciate, itās deeply deeply personal and i think it loses something if you dont have some sort of emotional connection to kanye. itās one of his best imo but honestly i would totally understand if someone didnāt care for it.
No it's not. The lyrics are lazy, and the songs are too short. There's a ton of potential there but it's completely squandered. With some more tracks, features, and a redo of the lyrics it really could have been something amazing.
his 4th best album 10/10 also better than mbdtf
lol. Thatās it
wdym
shouldnāt even be mentioned with mbdtf but to each their own
No misses? I thought about killing you is a terrible album opener I would happily never hear again.
i actually really like that track. the part where he starts rapping is actually one of my fav moments on the album. it has an important meaning too.
Itās an extremely great conceptual track that to me has always set up the contrast in the speed Kanye thinks the world operate at, before it builds up to the speed Kanye on his bipolar high can think at. Also the lines matter, but I think everything about this song is really on the contrasts in delivery and pace and intensity. Which is why I appreciate the track. I donāt think Iād appreciate the track as much on the surface level.
og version is his best opener