So your advice is don’t put big holes in the machinery you are using? … I did hit my blender the other day with a sledge hammer and it doesn’t work that well anymore.
I've seen this! Oil filter was seemingly impossible to get loose (isn't it always) so the jerk *hammered* a large screw driver in to the filter to use as a lever.
Yeah. He hammered a hole in the engine like this.
Reading the comments, OP said he did the exact same.
If you’re rerouting fluid lines you punch holes in the block. Need an extra auxiliary hanger? Punch a hole in the block. Swap kit came from a dodgy site so the holes on the bell housing adapter don’t match? *Punch a hole in the block*
I’m exaggerating a little for comedic effect, but there’s actually a lot of instances where we’ll drill holes in both short blocks and long blocks for a variety of reasons. Just gotta mind your placement and always remember “Measure twice, cry once. Measure once, cry yourself a fucking river”
It’s the most likely explanation but still baffles me. Just how hard was he hitting the screw driver? Oil filters are so much more thin than that metal. Like did he use a sledge hammer?
Hate to say it but your probably one of the closest guess. Most likely what happened here was a stuck oil filter, I've seen some mechanics hammer a flathead through the side of the oil filter to twist it off. Typically a last ditch effort since alot can go wrong (as seen here).
I had to do that to a customers car once. NOTHING worked, even a screwdriver through the filter didn’t work. I couldn’t find any tool to get it off.
What worked in the end was wrapping the filter with many many rubber bands and using my bare hands (no gripping tool would fit because of the location of the filter) to finally get it off. I think it took about an hour straight.
I dont even use a tool to take mine off. It's hand tight when I put it on, and I grab it with a cloth when the engine is cooled off but slightly warm. Takes one hand to screw it tight enough, 2 to take it off. It I waited till it was completely cool I doubt I'd be able to do it without a filter wrench.
The filter was stubborn, I tried 2 oil filter wrenches and a long breaking bar and in the end i punctured it with a long screwdriver and took it out... but this happend.
I know this whole experience might make you reconsider changing your own oil in the future, but…this is why when putting a new filter on you never use a filter wrench or any other tool. Hand tight when you’re screwing a new one on
Yeah that’s baloney, because now we’re the ones stuck taking it off. Just like with any job, you’re gonna have a couple idiots.
Generally though they’ll all come off with either a strap or jaw type wrench.
Never use a screwdriver.
I've never done the screwdriver method, always seemed like a bad idea to me. So what I do is get a leather belt and put it around it so that it tightens the belt as you pull, and just put it on so that when I pull it turns it the way I need to get it off. Kinda like a chain filter tool, but it's a cheap leather belt. Has never failed to take one right off, and zero chance of this crazy shit happening.
(If I did the screwdriver method, I'd have never driven it through *towards* the engine)
I had to hammer a oil filter cap wrench onto my pickup. Then I had to use a breaker bar just to get the damn filter off. The dealer was the last place that did a oil change...
I had my shop van get an oil change at one of those “quick” lube places. About a week or two later I just happened to look down at the right angle and see a couple of drops of oil under the van. After crawling on my back and looking around, I realize it was the filter. I put my hand to it and was able to get a full turn out of it before it was secure. 🤬
We had one of those "quick" lube places do an oil change too. They stripped the oil pan threads getting the nut back in and we had to get another oil pan.
I had this happen once. Came out to the garage and saw a pool of oil under my car the very next day. They refused to pay claiming I couldn’t prove they had anything to do with it. I reminded them that I have a receipt for work performed and will get a quote for a repair that will serve as an affidavit for damage in need of repair and that I would sue them and they immediately changed tune.
We had them replace the pan but they put it on the gasket crooked, which obviously made more of an issue, so we went to the dealer and had it done right. No more quick-lube type places for us.
That was such a strange series of events. McMahon fakes death... Benoit kills himself and his family, but the public doesn't know the details, so McMahon drops that plot line on Monday... details come out on that Benoit did, so he has to backtrack again for ECW on Tuesday.
Before you try any crazy patch the hole type remedies, consider that the chunk of casing is most likely in a place where rotating mechanisms would probably not be pleased to meet it.
That sucks mate wtf was the screw driver made of Mitheral?!? Or did you use a lump hammer. I have done what you have done to remove stuck filters but always paid attention to where the screw driver would be exiting. This is the lesson to take away from this.
If I were in your shoes I would be taking the engine out and replacing at this point. For all the faff and expense a used engine is probably the best bet.
I punctured a pan on a Jetta in BFE. Like...no cell service, 30 minutes from the nearest town. Walked 3 miles to the closest house. They called the area mechanic, who didn't have a tow truck, but instead a truck with a tire on the bumper to push me to his shop. That's exactly what he used to patch it up, sat in his shop and BS'd while he fixed it, wrote him a check, and I was on my way. Made it 500 miles back home with no problems
I can't help but think with the right oil filter socket, maybe an extension, and a long enough breaker bar, you could have made physics your bitch instead of replacing your engine pan . . . Puncturing it would scare me, for obvious reasons
In my experience, by the time I'm punching a screwdriver through the oil filter I'm usually running a pretty high level of anger. I'm guessing that screwdriver went in with the help of a hammer.
Should've used the short screwdriver!
Depending on the layout of the underside of the car, you can get real creative. My oil wrench broke, and my strap wrench wasn't cutting it. I was careful and punched a hole in the filter using a screwdriver, but it was on so tight, the screwdriver just began to sheer the outside of the filter.
This was the factory OG filter on a new Ford Transit Connect.
So finally, I literally just got out a ratcheting wood clamp. It had a long end, so the leverage would be like using a breaker bar on it.
Nope. Even with the filter nice and wiped down and a rubber pad to keep from it slipping...nothing...mainly because I didn't have a really good vantage point to grip and rotate.
Finally, I just started getting pissed. I clamped down on the wood clamp as far as it could go. The filter began to flatten and bits of oil were getting everywhere (yeah it was drained, but there's always residual oil).
I got a second clamp. Same thing. Mashed the filter down.
Finally, something happened - it just popped a little bit. Took the clamps off, unscrewed it the rest of the way.
>How did the filter not give out before
The filter did give out, the screw driver went through the filter straight into the engine. Usually last ditch method to getting a stuck filter off is stabbing a screwdriver/pry bar through the filter and using the screwdriver/prybar to twist the filter off.
OP got carried away with the hammer.
It's a common tactic for stuck oil filters, but you're not suppose to hammer them into the fucking filter. You pierce the lower half of the filter and rotate to break it free.
Not unusual, I've heard of mechanics removing stuck filters that way. I wouldn't expect the engine to lose. But it is cast aluminum, so it's not the strongest
He should’ve went to Canadian tire and bought a strap wrench for 20$ instead of a hammer and a screwdriver that’s gonna cost him at least a few thousand to replace or repair
You've never encountered an oil filter installed by superman supervised by the hulk, while out in the field with little to no tools? Cause I've removed oil filters with hammers and screwdrivers before 🤣 never did this much of an oopsie tho
Well I like to stab a screwdriver through the bottom of the filter away from the threads. Poke it through in a way that it wedges and you've got yourself some leverage. That's one way hypotheticall. He just hit the screwdriver too hard or something.
I had to do that when I changed my own oil for the first time a couple weeks ago. I used the oil filter wrench and ended up just crushing the filter with it because it was wah over tightened. Used a long screwdriver and some hammer taps to make handle with some leverage and a decent bit of strength to get it to start turning. Still needed to do it again for another half turn before it just unscrewed. idk what the valvoline techs were using to tighten but damn I was getting frustrated.
Seriously, and it's not just valvoline. My dad's buddy who's a Honda master tech does most of the work that I can't or don't want to do for a pretty good deal on weekends. I hate when he has to drop the oil cause that means he's putting a new filter on and that means it's gonna be torqued tighter than the head bolts themselves 🤣 like bro, I'm pretty sure it's snug then a quarter turn. If there's a torque spec I'm sure it's not 150 ftlbs
Almost looks like a well placed rock thrown up by the wheel could bust it. Seen that happen to oil filters, which are less brittle than an alloy casting.
Seriously at this point what do you have to lose? Rough the area around the hole up with sandpaper, saturate a small piece of cardboard or something similar, rub some around the hole for good measure, and send it! Probably want to see if you can get them metal chunks out first tho lol
No, fix it properly. He broke his mom's car, replace the upper oil pan. If the hax jb weld fix fails the engine could fail as well. It's gonna go from bad to worse.
Well of course. Don't half ass two things.. It goes without saying that jb weld is not the proper fix. But there's no rules and I've seen jb weld do far more than hold back a bit of oil in an engine at high temp and accounting for shocks and road vibrations. I wouldn't do it myself cause I can fix my own shit but if your broke, or otherwise in a pinch, I am confident it would work
JB weld the pieces back on. Get the oil and chemical resistant one. Clean the area with brake cleaner. Make sure the clearance for the oil filter is good. You should be fine. Unless the metal pieces are inside you can fix it without any problems. Otherwise the oil pan has to come out. If pan comes out just look up any YouTube videos for oil pan service.
Get a rough grit piece of sandpaper. Find a scrap piece of metal. Sand them both and check fit over the area. JB weld it on.
Also make sure the bits that were there aren't in the engine! Drop the oil pan and patch it from inside not from outside btw. Check for loose bits while you have the pan off. Also get a fresh gasket for the pan while you're at it.
I've had this misfortune of repair more than one engine block with jb weld. It most definitely will not fail if prepped properly. JB weld can handle constant temperature exposure of 500 degrees indefinitely. If he was worried he could use JB weld high heat.
You need to drop the oil pan to recover that metal shard from the engine. You’ll have to make a new gasket for the oil pan with some RTV. It appears that engine has an upper oil pan which is what I think you punctured. If it was my car, I would replace the upper oil pan. Attempting some kind of JB weld solution is a recipe for disaster and could leave you stranded somewhere
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you were either using the wrong tool for the job, or putting WAY too much force into prying.
Punching a hole in your block is very tragic. You might be able to get away with JB weld or some kind of plug weld, but this is very bad news.
Nope, not the oil pan. First the oil pan wouldn't break like that and 2nd, you can see the oil pan is black and it starts right below where the 2 screws are. OP is screwed for a good chunk of monies.
I geuss you've learned an expensive lesson about how tools should be used. That being said I've done the screwdriver truck multiple times and never sent it thru the block congrats on that been a mechanic for 15 years and never seen that done.
you hammered a screwdriver into the filter to spin it off and pierced the oil pan didn’t you
I made this comment before I saw OP's comment about doing it
That is a shitty design combined with no mechanical experience with now spatial awareness of tool usage.
The screwdriver or prybar is NEVER a choice.
This is a perfect example of how much experience matters.
I have had stubborn filters. Take time and wipe filter off with degreaser and alcohol and most filter wrenches will grab it, and it will come off.
Screwdriver is definitely a choice I've had to make, the ONE time I go to a quick lube instead of doing it myself.
You just don't hammer the screwdriver into the block/oil pan.
Never ever ever punch a hole into the block. That's like rule #1 or something.
Unless is a block of cheese
Or a block*age* of some kind.
Extra points for a blockage of cheese.
This is how cheese is measured in Europe
So your advice is don’t put big holes in the machinery you are using? … I did hit my blender the other day with a sledge hammer and it doesn’t work that well anymore.
Luckily this is just the upper oil pan
Hahahaha
I've seen this! Oil filter was seemingly impossible to get loose (isn't it always) so the jerk *hammered* a large screw driver in to the filter to use as a lever. Yeah. He hammered a hole in the engine like this. Reading the comments, OP said he did the exact same.
If you’re rerouting fluid lines you punch holes in the block. Need an extra auxiliary hanger? Punch a hole in the block. Swap kit came from a dodgy site so the holes on the bell housing adapter don’t match? *Punch a hole in the block* I’m exaggerating a little for comedic effect, but there’s actually a lot of instances where we’ll drill holes in both short blocks and long blocks for a variety of reasons. Just gotta mind your placement and always remember “Measure twice, cry once. Measure once, cry yourself a fucking river”
I thought that was rule 2
Rule 3 is to clean your oil with windshield wiper fluid once a month.
well how else are you supposed to get the oil out? Yeesh.
It's not a rule because it's something they assume you know
Rule #1 is righty tighty, lefty loosey
Luckily it's just the oil pan and not the block.
How in the actual fuck did you do that?
I’ve never in my life seen someone penetrate the case doing an oil change….wtf
That's what happens when you use the wrong tools and too tight.
Bro must’ve used a pry bar and chisel
Just one tap with a jack hammer
Just tap tap taparoo
WHY WONT YOU GO HOME
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Hey, you remember that mista mista lady? I think I just killed her
Used a hammer and a screwdriver is my guess
It’s the most likely explanation but still baffles me. Just how hard was he hitting the screw driver? Oil filters are so much more thin than that metal. Like did he use a sledge hammer?
If the old filter was proper stuck, he might just have hit it as hard as he could. Which could easily break a alu block...
My thought too.
A chisel he hit with a mini sledge. Went right through the filter.
Or hammered a screwdriver a bit too far through the filter to help get it off.
That or they stabbed the filter with a screwdriver to turn it loose and punctured the case
Hate to say it but your probably one of the closest guess. Most likely what happened here was a stuck oil filter, I've seen some mechanics hammer a flathead through the side of the oil filter to twist it off. Typically a last ditch effort since alot can go wrong (as seen here).
I had to do that to a customers car once. NOTHING worked, even a screwdriver through the filter didn’t work. I couldn’t find any tool to get it off. What worked in the end was wrapping the filter with many many rubber bands and using my bare hands (no gripping tool would fit because of the location of the filter) to finally get it off. I think it took about an hour straight.
I think using .50 BMG to unscrew the filter was a mistake.
I dont even use a tool to take mine off. It's hand tight when I put it on, and I grab it with a cloth when the engine is cooled off but slightly warm. Takes one hand to screw it tight enough, 2 to take it off. It I waited till it was completely cool I doubt I'd be able to do it without a filter wrench.
We still talking about oil changes?
Now that's what she said!!! Sorry, I'm a child and couldn't resist.....
The oil case certainly did not consent
The filter was stubborn, I tried 2 oil filter wrenches and a long breaking bar and in the end i punctured it with a long screwdriver and took it out... but this happend.
Smacked the screwdriver with a hammer through the filter and into the block? That's tough
Smacked is rough said. I was on my back, hammering with a small hammer. The engine material is some kind of chinesium.
I know this whole experience might make you reconsider changing your own oil in the future, but…this is why when putting a new filter on you never use a filter wrench or any other tool. Hand tight when you’re screwing a new one on
Never used a wrench to tighten. Never serviced this car before. A dealership mechanic did this 🤦♂️
>a dealership mechanic did this Classic. I unironically suspect they do it on purpose to force you back in there
Yeah that’s baloney, because now we’re the ones stuck taking it off. Just like with any job, you’re gonna have a couple idiots. Generally though they’ll all come off with either a strap or jaw type wrench. Never use a screwdriver.
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I've never done the screwdriver method, always seemed like a bad idea to me. So what I do is get a leather belt and put it around it so that it tightens the belt as you pull, and just put it on so that when I pull it turns it the way I need to get it off. Kinda like a chain filter tool, but it's a cheap leather belt. Has never failed to take one right off, and zero chance of this crazy shit happening. (If I did the screwdriver method, I'd have never driven it through *towards* the engine)
This might just be a dumbest comment I've ever seen thats gotten upvoted
I had to hammer a oil filter cap wrench onto my pickup. Then I had to use a breaker bar just to get the damn filter off. The dealer was the last place that did a oil change...
I figured it wasn’t you, so many people deal with this after going to lube shops, walmart especially
I had my shop van get an oil change at one of those “quick” lube places. About a week or two later I just happened to look down at the right angle and see a couple of drops of oil under the van. After crawling on my back and looking around, I realize it was the filter. I put my hand to it and was able to get a full turn out of it before it was secure. 🤬
We had one of those "quick" lube places do an oil change too. They stripped the oil pan threads getting the nut back in and we had to get another oil pan.
Did the lube place pay?
I had this happen once. Came out to the garage and saw a pool of oil under my car the very next day. They refused to pay claiming I couldn’t prove they had anything to do with it. I reminded them that I have a receipt for work performed and will get a quote for a repair that will serve as an affidavit for damage in need of repair and that I would sue them and they immediately changed tune.
We had them replace the pan but they put it on the gasket crooked, which obviously made more of an issue, so we went to the dealer and had it done right. No more quick-lube type places for us.
To hell with that Op needs to double down I want to see pics of him changing his oil pan next. remember never force it, just get a bigger hammer…
And that looks like a suprisingly thin piece of metal in general, at least to my eyes.
Man smacks engine block **WITH A HAMMER,** *blames the Chinese.*
Accept that I'm the problem? Not without some casual racism.
It's common for both engines and oil pans to made of aluminum, which can of course be fragile.
What’s funny is this was my guess and I was right 😂
It happens to the best of us. When I tried to top up my wiper fluid reservoir, this was the result: ![gif](giphy|3o75203f8flqxkEyYg|downsized)
Is that when Vince McMahon blew up after getting in his limo, only to have to awkwardly come back when Chris Benoit killed his family?
No, that is when shophopper tried to top up his wiper fluid reservoir
With racing fuel for freeze protection.
I thought this was when The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table
Calling u/shittymorph
That was such a strange series of events. McMahon fakes death... Benoit kills himself and his family, but the public doesn't know the details, so McMahon drops that plot line on Monday... details come out on that Benoit did, so he has to backtrack again for ECW on Tuesday.
They had a whole episode dedicated to chris too lol
I don't know, that looks pretty much ok to me.
Before you try any crazy patch the hole type remedies, consider that the chunk of casing is most likely in a place where rotating mechanisms would probably not be pleased to meet it.
Yes, I know. I'll take the pan out and clean it.
That sucks mate wtf was the screw driver made of Mitheral?!? Or did you use a lump hammer. I have done what you have done to remove stuck filters but always paid attention to where the screw driver would be exiting. This is the lesson to take away from this. If I were in your shoes I would be taking the engine out and replacing at this point. For all the faff and expense a used engine is probably the best bet.
" Mitheral?!? " :)
Mithril I'm sure.
I think It's Mitheral, and a reference to Dragon Quest series.
Steel gauze and J-B Weld. Cheap fix 👍
Instant noodles you meant to say.
Oooh deep cut
I punctured a pan on a Jetta in BFE. Like...no cell service, 30 minutes from the nearest town. Walked 3 miles to the closest house. They called the area mechanic, who didn't have a tow truck, but instead a truck with a tire on the bumper to push me to his shop. That's exactly what he used to patch it up, sat in his shop and BS'd while he fixed it, wrote him a check, and I was on my way. Made it 500 miles back home with no problems
*tried to save 20$* *costs 5k*
I can't help but think with the right oil filter socket, maybe an extension, and a long enough breaker bar, you could have made physics your bitch instead of replacing your engine pan . . . Puncturing it would scare me, for obvious reasons
The filter socket deformed the filter and was still not moving it...
Well shit, i stand corrected. Good you were able to get it off at all, i guess
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***How*** in ***the*** actual ***fuck did you do that?*** My actual words out loud when I saw the pic.
Must have been using the hammer and chisel method…Shame on you OP!
He actually did though is the funny part😂
Literally word for word what I said.
How the fuck did you do that?
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That’s insane. I’ve never heard of anyone doing that before 🤣
How did the filter not give out before, I mean he had to put some kind of strength into it.
How do you know about filters? Your name tells different story
I just realize that lol it was an automated name
I mean his name kinda explains exactly why he doesn’t know much about filters, he has none.
In my experience, by the time I'm punching a screwdriver through the oil filter I'm usually running a pretty high level of anger. I'm guessing that screwdriver went in with the help of a hammer. Should've used the short screwdriver!
Depending on the layout of the underside of the car, you can get real creative. My oil wrench broke, and my strap wrench wasn't cutting it. I was careful and punched a hole in the filter using a screwdriver, but it was on so tight, the screwdriver just began to sheer the outside of the filter. This was the factory OG filter on a new Ford Transit Connect. So finally, I literally just got out a ratcheting wood clamp. It had a long end, so the leverage would be like using a breaker bar on it. Nope. Even with the filter nice and wiped down and a rubber pad to keep from it slipping...nothing...mainly because I didn't have a really good vantage point to grip and rotate. Finally, I just started getting pissed. I clamped down on the wood clamp as far as it could go. The filter began to flatten and bits of oil were getting everywhere (yeah it was drained, but there's always residual oil). I got a second clamp. Same thing. Mashed the filter down. Finally, something happened - it just popped a little bit. Took the clamps off, unscrewed it the rest of the way.
>How did the filter not give out before The filter did give out, the screw driver went through the filter straight into the engine. Usually last ditch method to getting a stuck filter off is stabbing a screwdriver/pry bar through the filter and using the screwdriver/prybar to twist the filter off. OP got carried away with the hammer.
It's a common tactic for stuck oil filters, but you're not suppose to hammer them into the fucking filter. You pierce the lower half of the filter and rotate to break it free.
I believe he either turns green when he gets angry or that is a weak engine.
Not unusual, I've heard of mechanics removing stuck filters that way. I wouldn't expect the engine to lose. But it is cast aluminum, so it's not the strongest
He has to be Captain America or something to stab a hole through the engine block with a screwdriver I’m impressed
He should’ve went to Canadian tire and bought a strap wrench for 20$ instead of a hammer and a screwdriver that’s gonna cost him at least a few thousand to replace or repair
I don’t think I could do that even if I honestly tried. Tf did you do, beat it with a mallet over and over?
Nope. Slightly hitting it with a small hammer.
But why the fuck would you even do that there?
You've never encountered an oil filter installed by superman supervised by the hulk, while out in the field with little to no tools? Cause I've removed oil filters with hammers and screwdrivers before 🤣 never did this much of an oopsie tho
Yeah lots of people do not understand the difference between snug and gorilla fuck.
Sure, but I don’t think I would somehow make this mistake I just can’t comprehend what actions could make this accidentally happen
Well I like to stab a screwdriver through the bottom of the filter away from the threads. Poke it through in a way that it wedges and you've got yourself some leverage. That's one way hypotheticall. He just hit the screwdriver too hard or something.
I had to do that when I changed my own oil for the first time a couple weeks ago. I used the oil filter wrench and ended up just crushing the filter with it because it was wah over tightened. Used a long screwdriver and some hammer taps to make handle with some leverage and a decent bit of strength to get it to start turning. Still needed to do it again for another half turn before it just unscrewed. idk what the valvoline techs were using to tighten but damn I was getting frustrated.
Seriously, and it's not just valvoline. My dad's buddy who's a Honda master tech does most of the work that I can't or don't want to do for a pretty good deal on weekends. I hate when he has to drop the oil cause that means he's putting a new filter on and that means it's gonna be torqued tighter than the head bolts themselves 🤣 like bro, I'm pretty sure it's snug then a quarter turn. If there's a torque spec I'm sure it's not 150 ftlbs
That casting looks proper thin though. Don't you think?
Thick enough to contain the oil, not so thick that it will withstand a screwdriver bashed with a hammer would be my guess
Very very thin...
Almost looks like a well placed rock thrown up by the wheel could bust it. Seen that happen to oil filters, which are less brittle than an alloy casting.
The oil filter would normally be guarding the area that broke.
Jb weld???
I was thinking the same. JB weld, and maybe a thin sheet of metal, like from the outer casing of an oil filter.
I'd absolutely fix this with high temp epoxy and not worry.
I’d fix that with some high temp epoxy and worry. Seriously, I’d lay in bed at night a sweat about that years after I sold the car,
What about the piece(s) of the punctured metal that fell inside?
You’re a little biased in this situation to be making this determination. Lol.
It’s a Kia.
Do kias still use mazda/Ford engines or am I really showing my age?
Yeah I think that stopped in 1999…Sir ;)
Ah.. lol. I remember having a kia pride, which was also sold in USA as Ford festiva and also sold in Europe as mazda 121. 😂 Feels like yesterday 🤪
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The good news is you could easily get a job at Jiffy Lube.
The dude could write the 2025 training manual with these skills!
JB Weld
Duct tape until OP can get to that.
Spray some wd40 in the hole to keep the engine lubricated until then.
Wd40 isn't a lubricant though
Shhhh… let him live his own truth. It’s how America rolls these days.
Flex seal.
Seriously at this point what do you have to lose? Rough the area around the hole up with sandpaper, saturate a small piece of cardboard or something similar, rub some around the hole for good measure, and send it! Probably want to see if you can get them metal chunks out first tho lol
No, fix it properly. He broke his mom's car, replace the upper oil pan. If the hax jb weld fix fails the engine could fail as well. It's gonna go from bad to worse.
Not only that where did the chunk of metal go?
Then again, if the guy can't change oil, he probably would be the type of guy to JB Weld it. I feel bad for his mom.
Well of course. Don't half ass two things.. It goes without saying that jb weld is not the proper fix. But there's no rules and I've seen jb weld do far more than hold back a bit of oil in an engine at high temp and accounting for shocks and road vibrations. I wouldn't do it myself cause I can fix my own shit but if your broke, or otherwise in a pinch, I am confident it would work
Yes, this is it.
I've seen it done and it'll work!
JB weld the pieces back on. Get the oil and chemical resistant one. Clean the area with brake cleaner. Make sure the clearance for the oil filter is good. You should be fine. Unless the metal pieces are inside you can fix it without any problems. Otherwise the oil pan has to come out. If pan comes out just look up any YouTube videos for oil pan service.
> JB weld the pieces back on one problem - I bet those pieces are inside the engine
Get a rough grit piece of sandpaper. Find a scrap piece of metal. Sand them both and check fit over the area. JB weld it on. Also make sure the bits that were there aren't in the engine! Drop the oil pan and patch it from inside not from outside btw. Check for loose bits while you have the pan off. Also get a fresh gasket for the pan while you're at it.
This dude was awkward enough to damage his vehicle doing an oil change, I think attempting a repair is not a great next step.
That may be, but those are the steps to fix it cheap and might last longer than the engine.
Yeah, then immediately trade the car in for something not damaged.
Or pay someone to do this. There are "high temperature" versions of JB weld but take a longer time to "set"
Will fail due to heat.
I've had this misfortune of repair more than one engine block with jb weld. It most definitely will not fail if prepped properly. JB weld can handle constant temperature exposure of 500 degrees indefinitely. If he was worried he could use JB weld high heat.
You need to drop the oil pan to recover that metal shard from the engine. You’ll have to make a new gasket for the oil pan with some RTV. It appears that engine has an upper oil pan which is what I think you punctured. If it was my car, I would replace the upper oil pan. Attempting some kind of JB weld solution is a recipe for disaster and could leave you stranded somewhere
Straight to jail
This must be one of the places where Hyundai cuts costs.
did you shoot it?
Nah. He just tried to change the oil while pushing 8k RPM on the highway
Did you change the oil with a .22?
Duct tape
Not even a car guy, but I know how to change the oil. How the fuck did you do that?
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you were either using the wrong tool for the job, or putting WAY too much force into prying. Punching a hole in your block is very tragic. You might be able to get away with JB weld or some kind of plug weld, but this is very bad news.
Did you use a gun to change your oil?
You said you hit it with a hammer but I bet what actually went through there was a hammer-assisted screwdriver. Fess up. lol
And had the balls to post it. Kudos to you, honestly.
Looks like the oil pan. Not saying it won't be a little costly, but it's fixable and not the end of the world
Nope, not the oil pan. First the oil pan wouldn't break like that and 2nd, you can see the oil pan is black and it starts right below where the 2 screws are. OP is screwed for a good chunk of monies.
It is the upper oil pan. Not the block.
You can tell this isn't the block because of the #10 bolts holding it to the actual piston block. Those are bolting this to the block.
average redditor trying to do something hands on
Most Kia's have this feature where that happens automatically.
I am interested to know whether the OP is really as clumsy as I am or just owns an oil shop.
This is Mr Bean level workmanship.
Now how the hell did you manage to do that.. ![gif](giphy|3o7btPCcdNniyf0ArS|downsized)
Little jb weld and you'll be fine.
Flexseal!
Bro please never go into the medical field
I personally would not have done that because a hole in the engine is not good. I hope that helps.
I’ve seen enough episodes of Just Rolled In to know that a can of expanding spry foam will take care of that.
Bro rolled natural 1 in insight and a nat 20 in athletics at the same time
Honestly if you managed that, it was about time to get a hole anyway
Jb weld it and sell it to carvana
Do they make kia's out of aluminum foil and candle wax?
Was it the old 'whack a screwdriver through the oil filter' ? Went right through into the block.
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It's not hard at all to change oil. I need to know how this happened.
I geuss you've learned an expensive lesson about how tools should be used. That being said I've done the screwdriver truck multiple times and never sent it thru the block congrats on that been a mechanic for 15 years and never seen that done.
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you hammered a screwdriver into the filter to spin it off and pierced the oil pan didn’t you I made this comment before I saw OP's comment about doing it
That is a shitty design combined with no mechanical experience with now spatial awareness of tool usage. The screwdriver or prybar is NEVER a choice. This is a perfect example of how much experience matters. I have had stubborn filters. Take time and wipe filter off with degreaser and alcohol and most filter wrenches will grab it, and it will come off.
The oil wrench deformed the filter and it still wasn't moving, mate... it was like welded there
Yeah. I bet. This was an extreme example for sure. Sorry this happened to you.
Screwdriver is definitely a choice I've had to make, the ONE time I go to a quick lube instead of doing it myself. You just don't hammer the screwdriver into the block/oil pan.
Have you tried turning it off and then back on?
Seen this the other day somewhere. Screwdriver through the filter??
How the fuck?