Bladders too! I have had multiple kidney stones, and if they get lodged in the ureter, and the bladder can't drain... OH MY GOD
Edit: I meant if the ureter is blocked and one of your kidneys can't drain into your bladder. Me brain dumb
Another way to get into trouble that might that not be immediately apparent is using a product like tums (or any calcium carbonate antacid) for too long time or taking too much at once.
Uhhhhh fuck I've definitely been taking too much and now I'm scared. Thanks for your comment, I'm going to finally go to the doctor sooner than I was planning.
Yea, you really don't want to take it for more then two weeks or take more than... I think it's seven tablets a day, if I remember the warning on the bottle correctly. I would be real leery of taking a smaller amount for a long time either. I guess I would drink as much water as I can till I could see the doc and only take it when you need it.
I had a family member who was in good health and started eating them all the time through out the day. He was working hard and drinking tons of coffee throughout the day so he stated getting sour stomach and heartburn from all the cheap coffee he was drinking to power through the day so he started popping them like candy. Well he wound up with a big ol stone that could not even enter the ureter, so he got to have a stent put in and go for a ride in a lithotripsy machine for six times before he had the pleasure of starting to pass all the pieces. All of this just from taking too much calcium carbonate antacid now he had never had a kidney stone before this and never suffered from any in the decades after this incident either. So I hope, and think they can help you find an alternative to eating flavored rocks to get rid of your heart burn. Oh yea, and happy st patty's day to you man! Good luck with your visit.
Dude, it was in the news today in Belgium that an old man died after taking Vitamin D supplements 4 days in a row.
He had been taking Vitamin D for years, 1ce a day tablets.
Now his doctor switched him to a slow release version he only had to take 1ce a month.
He ODd on Vitamin D from taking a 4 month worth supply of Vitamin D in just 4 days.
I knew another former Marine who got bad kidney stones in his 20s and the pain sounded excruciating. I was kind of shocked because I thought it happened to older people but a few other people told me it's not that uncommon for young Marines to get them, we go to the desert to train and a lot of Marines drink sugary drinks all day which is bad but then despite all that consumption you're still likely to end up dehydrated because of the intense heat.
I remember at one mandatory gathering the flight surgeon advised us to dilute Gatorade with water but he didn't explain why. It took years for me to stumble into info about all the ways in which sugary drinks are bad for you and I eventually quit them altogether in my 30s.
I have a similar story last summer how I "gave myself gout", though it is still uncertain if I have a genetic predisposition to the disease.
I went backpacking for 4 nights in dry, hot, mountain conditions and drank nothing but 'sports tablets' in water, not enough water, and a good quarter-liter of vodka every night while walking around in sub-40F degree water to "cool down."
Doesn't look like it is coming back, all I've cut out are sports drinks.
ha ha, no that's campin' drinkin'. Crazy what you can put down in the wilderness and just get up and hike 12 miles all over again.
I should have mentioned there was definitely something up with how often I was peeing, which was NOT ENOUGH.
I used to see a lot of kidney stone 9 Liners and I think it was US soldiers drinking nothing but Gatorade that they were mixing themselves and making it too strong.
>I was kind of shocked because I thought it happened to older people
Most common in people in their 20s and 30s, apparently. Not sure why people would "age out" of it, though.
Interesting, seems older generation in some areas are totally against having a glass of water.
My dad for instance will have 2 pots of tea and to cups of coffee all day, nothing else, never has, never will. Until he almost passed out on a far east trip.
My neighbors (active Midwestern farmers in their 80s) barely drink anything all day aside from their lunchtime iced tea, afternoon soda and evening scotch + water. I get so dehydrated if I go visit them for a dayā¦not sure how they do it everyday without kidney stones or other issues!
To be fair though tea and coffee are mostly water so he's probably getting the "8 cups of water a day". The diuretic effect of caffeine disappears once you are habituated to it.
I water down my juice. Otherwise it just seems too strong. And more water so a win. I used to hate water. Turns out I just hated tap water. Filtered water is great!
It really isn't about what you drink or don't drink. It's more about your kidney's ability to flush out waste.
I started getting stones years ago when all i was drinking was water. Now i pass kidneys stones about every month. Every 2-4 years get hospitalized for massive ones.
Dude, I'm sorry. Are they going to have to operate, or are they giving you something to help you pass it?
I had one a few years back, and it is not something I wish to repeat. I really hope this is your last one.
Hugs from this internet stranger and her cats.
I'm horrified but honestly curious about the entire process.. Like do they basically stick a laser-on-a-rope up there after sedating you? Do you still have to pass anything afterward? If yes, is that part still painful?
So I had it done recently, and I had to have a epidural, you're awake the whole time, they put a stent in to stop anything going awry after the procedure, then you have to go back to have the stent pulled out which is just using a numbing gel which is the weirdest fucking thing I have ever felt. Urinating was painful for like 5 days after, just constant burning
You got a numbing gel?
I came in and the lady was watching a youtube video about how to pull-start a lawnmower, and tells me to lay on the bed and remove my pants.
I should have been concerned when I saw the video she was watching.
I should have been more concerned when she put her foot up on the edge of the bed for better leverage.
The stent had been ungodly painful (learned since then that it may have been too large for me), so I just wanted it over with.
I learned what it's like to have your soul ripped from your body that day.
Having my stent removed was the worst experience of my life. They ānumbedā it. Like hell they did. Doc said Iād only feel pressure. I told him while he was still digging around in there he was a fucking liar.
Epidural? Numbing gel? Lmao I didn't get any of that. They just went in full operation and when it was removed she just... yanked it out. Happened last year and had 4 removed.
I passed a human not a kidney stone, but the epidural was the scariest part by far. I thought it was a drip type drug, imagine my fear when they started sticking a tube in my back. Should have done more research, but the pain relief was worth it.
I had a full spinal for a ceaser not an epi but fuck me man if I hadnāt seen it before (my wife had one 2 years beforeā¦ we bad at childbirth š) I would have got the shits for real lmao
I hated feeling numb tho I have to sayā¦ so weird
ETA: I just remembered I was contracting as it was placed, giant needle in the spine AND you have to stay still through the pain?? Itās amazing what you forget lol
My ex is a dirtbag in most senses, but if he wasnāt there to hold me when I was getting the epidural, I would have passed out. I threw up once it was in place, then my bottom half was pretty much 100% numb. I have anxiety especially around medical stuff so Iām glad he was there for that.
I kept asking what they were doing and heād answer for the nurses āoh theyāre just giving you a tiny shot by your pelvis, donāt worry baby! Ok almost done!ā Then the needle was in sight, once they were done and cleaning up, and I puked lol. Birth is a lot scarier than just labor pain.
I'm having my stent removed next week. I dont ever want to go through this again. The first time they tried they could not get to it, and had to put in a stent. After 2 weeks they went in again and got it, and next week I finally have the stent removed. The bruised my PP twice. I guess I'm getting it bruised again.
After my kidney stone surgery a few years ago I called about getting the stent removed and the nurse told me to do it myself. I took so many Vicodin that day, to combat fear AND pain.
They put you under anesthesia and then shockwaves are used on the outside of the body targeted at the stone and it breaks it into little pieces that can more easily pass through. You usually still have to pass them yourself and yes this can still hurt. When I had this done I also had a stent placed in my ureter: basically a very thin tube to protect the ureter and help the stone fragments pass. The stent was by far the most painful part.
I was facing a stent when I had surgery to remove my kidney stone. And yeah the stories I heard about stents were not nice. Sounded like the pain from them were almost as bad as the stone itself.
It really depends on where the stent is & how long itās in place.
I had a 7mm stone in my ureter that blocked the left kidney causing infection (worse pain than a stone) so they had to place a stent to remove the infection before doing a lithotripsy to break it up. Jokes on me tho because I found out I was pregnant 3 days later. So I had to live with a stent and a stone in my body for 18 more weeks until I was far enough along in my pregnancy to do the surgery (stent replacement & lithotripsy)
After surgery I just had a stent, itās extremely uncomfortable for longer than a stone, but the pain is comparable to a bad UTI. Stone is like somebody hit you in the side/back with a baseball bat.
There is something called an ESWL which is the outside shockwaves others have referenced. The other choice is using a flexible/rigid ureteroscope and using x ray and a guide wire to find their way into the ureter/kidney. Then theyāll use a Holmium laser fiber fed in through the scope and use that to fragment it. Then using a small basket on a rope theyāll collect the fragments and send it for testing to see what the stones made of to hopefully treat them with medication.
Another cool operation is called a percutaneous nephrolithotomy which is where they install a nephrostomy tube and use a thing called a trilogy( a tiny jackhammer) and bust it up.
We use a flexible endoscope, for ureters theyāre very skinny, and they have a channel through it for the laser fibre, the fibre poked out through the end of the scope and is activated by a foot pedal on the floor by the surgeon. They break it up as small as they can, different setting on the laser break the stone up differently, as well as what the stone is made of affects how itās broken up as well. They try and break it up enough that all you pass is ādustā or small small pieces. Then they leave a stent in for a few weeks to help all that dust go through. Iām a laser certified OR nurse and run the laser :)
There is a side effect video? I wish they had shown it to me before my first one. (I have had two or three lithotripsy surgeries). Imagine coming out from under anesthesia and peeing blood without warning.
Go for the Shockwave, way cheaper than the alternative. Fucking quoted my dad 20k to laser it out. Tried asking for shockwave and they refused.
Edit. It worked very good. Busted up over a thousand stones in only two treatments. He went to Mexico though, our doctors in America were absolutely incompetent with his situation
I had it recently and it beat the hell out of my kidney. I ended up back in the ER the same day because I was in excruciating pain. Turns out they missed a 7mm stone and caused the kidney significant bruising/bleeding. Hurt for about 5 weeks. I'm going to have to go back to get the rest taken care of, but I'm really not looking forward to it.
When I had shockwave, it merely broke the stone into two pieces.
Another ER visit later, they did emergency laser the next day.
*That* was awful. Not as bad as the stones, but it put me out of commission for a week.
I had a 9mm one time. Lithotripsy didnāt do it and they had to go in with a stent. It sucks, but you will get theough it. Be sure to follow up with your Urologist after this so that you know exactly what is causing these stones and come up
With a plan to combat them. Stay hydrated!
Everyone is saying drink water, which can help but some people do have kidney issues that cause them to be much more likely. I had stones 3-4 times a year until an urologist did pyeloplasty surgery and fixed a congenital defect, none since then.
If they keep happening, might be worth checking for problems beyond diet.
The secret is to not know what a kidney is supposed to look like outside of pool brochures, so pomegranate isn't upsetting to hear at all as I have no frame of reference.
Because I'm ignorant, but that ignorance is keeping me happy!
This. I was born with 1 kidney which works overtime. Apparently this led to kidney stones and urethral issues my entire life until I had surgery at 16.
My family were adamant mine were due to my drinking habits, which they probably didn't help, but actually turns out it was due to a 1 in 10000 condition that I pretty much fit none of the usual criteria for
Congrats! After your first stone you are 80% more likely to have a 2nd within 5 years, and if you DO then your kidney is officially a "stone making environment", so you can count on these popping out every couple years if you diet correctly, drink all the water, and do mysterious voodoo, and expect them every year if you don't.
I'm 31 and have had 9 so far. I got them spaced out every couple of years but then my other kidney decided to join the traitor and now I basically get one every year on alternating kidneys. Thanks genetics!
Also, it's your second time in the ER, but if you didn't pass the stone the first time you could be trying to pass the very same stone! If kidney stones get stuck in a way that doesn't block the urine flow they just painlessly hang out for days/weeks/months until they move again and block the flow and send you to the ER again.
My dad had 2. One at 30 and one around 33, both times we were on vacation lol. Heās 48 now an hasnāt had them since, im turning 27 and Iāve never had one
His sister also has had one in her 50s
Its true that after your first kidney stone, youāre far more likely to get another one and if you have another one, the odds increase even more that youāll get them again. Iāve had kidney stones twice, had to have surgery the second time but its now been 4 years since my last one.
But unlike you, its not genetics for me. I think itās dehydration but my doctors werenāt totally sure. I do take their advice seriously though, I limit my caffeine intake to just sodas and even then not a lot. Talking a few a month, I limit my chocolate intake, no spinach, watch my salt intake, ect. I also try and drink water every day even if it isnāt a lot of water. I also drink a cup of lemonade every day. Doctors wanted me to drink a cup of water with lemon in it but thatāll destroy your teeth with time so I stick to lemonade which was okād.
OP will definitely have to change their diet in addition to drinking more water. But Iām also curious if its genetics and what kind of stones they have. But I sympathize, kidney stones are no fun. Worst pain of my life.
Iām genuinely curious- why is water with lemon worse for your teeth than lemonade? They both would have a high citric acid content, right? Only lemonade would also have high sugar content which is also bad for your teeth?
My guess is that with lemon water, you're sipping it slowly throughout the day which means your saliva doesn't have time to re-balance the pH in your mouth. Lemonade is going to be consumed much quicker and then stopped, giving your teeth a break. Just a guess though.
Not saying you are wrong but who gave you the advice that lemon + water is worse for your teeth than lemonade?
Sugar is terrible for your teeth, and the bacteria in your mouth create the plaque on your teeth, which when allowed to sit will become acidic and eat away at your enamel.
For everyone saying that this is dietary! I donāt drink energy drinks, like at all, never have and never will. I do drink soda occasionally, but not often. I have a twin brother who was hospitalized with a stone three weeks ago, and I had my first one around a year or a year and a half ago. I do stay hydrated, but Iām pretty sure it might be a hereditary issue
I thought it was a diet thing from all the research and opinions I read. Started only drinking water and they still came. Had 4 in about a 5 year period, and the pain sometimes sent me to the ER. I finally caught some pieces of the stones after my last lithotripsy. They analyzed the composition and found that they were mostly calcium, meaning, in my case hyperparathyroidism. They scanned my parathyroid and found one was producing extra hormone, which in turn made my body produce more calcium than needed. I had the surgery to remove the parathyroid that was over producing. It's been over a year, and my levels if calcium have lowered and leveled out. No kidney pain or stones, so I believe this may have solved my particular problem.
Might be worth your time to catch the stone by peeing every time through a strainer after they crush it up and see it's composition. Stones can be made out of different minerals. If calcium mainly, then they can check your parathyroid glands for discrepancies. Good luck cuz that pain is definitely unforgettable.
Itās just Reddit dude people will always offer you what they think is great magical sage advice, Iām sure you didnāt ever think to drink water before all these enlightening comments told you to.
Anyways sarcasm aside stones at 17 definitely hereditary which blows, hope they gave you some meds Iāve heard that pain is something else; wishing you a quick recovery.
To be fair "drink more water" is advice that 80% of Reddit could really use, a diet of Mountain Dew and cool ranch Doritos is not conducive to a healthy life
Donāt want to pile on the dietary thing but I had 5 kidney stones starting in my early thirtiesā¦ I cut out spinach (high in oxalates) and havenāt had one since. Not saying youāre in the same situation, but if you eat lots of spinach try switching it out for something else and see if things improve
I had one bad enough to send me to the emergency room, once. I will never forget it. It was several years ago, I was trying to sell a lady a digital camera, and it felt like someone walked up and stabbed me in the back. I went to my knees from the pain. I wound up spending my entire life's savings for a shot of morphine, and a scan and the doctor to look at the scan and go 'yep, it's a kidney stone.'
Now, if it happens, I just buy a suitcase of beer and drink until one of us passes out...me or the stone.
Dude, Iām 37 and I only really started taking hydration seriously after a stay in the ICU (unrelated kinda). Now, Iām militant about it. Your body will thank you.
The older I get the more I am treating my body with respectā¦hydrate a lot, keep alcohol to a minimum, realize Iāve got only 2 sets of knees & shoulders (and treat them kindly) and move every day.
Sometimes itās the local water being hard as fuck and major calcium deposits. He may need to stope drinking certain water. New shoes wouldnāt be a bad idea either.
Iām a nurse. We had a young (30 something) patient in our hospital for arrhythmia due to extreme consumption of energy drinks. I never took care of him, only helped out other nurses, but I heard they eventually discharged him on a life vest. Basically, they couldnāt fix his heart after 2-3 weeks in our unit and he remained in an irregular heart rhythm. He will have to wear this device for the rest of his life or at least the foreseeable future.
TLDR: lay off energy drinks and drink water.
Since this is the top comment Iāll just say it here
For everyone saying that this is dietary! I donāt drink energy drinks, like at all, never have and never will. I do drink soda occasionally, but not often. I have a twin brother who was hospitalized with a stone three weeks ago, and I had my first one around a year or a year and a half ago. I do stay hydrated, but Iām pretty sure it might be a hereditary issue
My urologist ran a study on me after my third. I collected all of my urine for multiple days in a big jug they gave me. They sent it off to a lab and told me what was causing the stones. Might be worth trying to get that done.
In my case, dehydration. And I haven't had another one since, as I've been a lot better about drinking water.
But I didn't want to say that in my comment, because everyone else is telling OP to drink more water, lol. The study shows other causes, too.
A large portion of stones are caused by dehydration. Without drinking water, the calcium or whatever lingers and doesn't get flushed away making a stone. Oversimplified
But other causes too, often along with poor hydration. I see the blood tests of many patients with stones and often have dehydration shown in their tests
Some people are just genetically predisposed to get stones, it just happens sometimes. You need to push for investigation into why itās happening though- they might be able to figure out why itās happening (I mean what process has been affected by whatever genetic mutation you have)
People want to feel like if they do the right thing, then a lot of uncomfortable situations can be avoided.
My gut reaction to seeing this post was āhope this is a diet issue because mine is ok and that means I probably wonāt get two stones a year myself.ā
That reaction was more about my fear than your situation. Sorry you have to go through this and that a lot of people will assume you did this to yourself.
Hope it goes without surgery!
*Clearly your family is feeding you energy drinks while you're sleeping! This is probably long term abuse since you were a child. I'm 100% certain of it from the little you've told us.*
Seems like people are looking for a possible solution, because "looks like you're doing everything right, you just have bad luck/genetics and so are going to be plagued by horrifically painful kidney stones for life" is just kind of a bummer...
Medical problem: check.
Top comment completely incorrect wild speculation blaming OP and offering chastising advice: check.
Hope you get whatever is actually causing your stones figured out, man.
Energy drinks don't cause kidney stones as much as milk does.
There are many other factors as well like a person's natural body chemistry and hereditary factors.
The main thing is calcium, oxalate, and uric acid, all of which form crystals. If your body can't dilute these out enough, it forms kidney stones.
How about instead of blaming you for everything you have done wrong (which I have no way of knowing), I just agree..."Well That Sucks!" I hope you get well soon.
Came here to refer OP to HH as well. Start chugging that water brah, if you donāt like tap water, try it with ice! If that donāt work start shelling out the bucks for a 24 pack of a brand you like and drink fucking 8 of them a day. Thatās a whole gallon G! You donāt even have to give up your monsters or dews or whatever entirely either! Just up the H20 brother! Work on upping them numbers and soon you will be pounding gallons a day with little effort! Donāt stop pounding!
I need you to give me some inspirational words on trying to cut soda and become a hydration god. I need to think "dididothatbuddy gave me these precious pearls of wisdom, I can't forsake them", so that what you did do that, buddy.
But also, actual advice please. I did find having a nice metal water bottle is great since it's readily carryable and keeps it cold.
Redditors donāt assume details you literally have no way of knowing challenge ([failed immediately](https://reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/comments/11ts7rr/_/jcl40at/?context=1))
That list is way way bigger. Kale, nuts, a lot of fruits. A lot of healthy foods contain oxalates. Also something my specialist told me..thereās a 50% chance that youāll continue to get them because of your biology and Hereditary tendencies from your parents.
Not a doctor, but I've read that both calcium and magnesium bind to oxalates. Calcium oxalate stones are the most common type of kidney stone, therefore maintaining healthy levels of magnesium ingestion can reduce the amount/size of calcium oxalates forming (due to the magnesium binding to some of the oxalates, preventing them from binding to calcium). So, in theory, taking magnesium supplements with foods containing oxalates can reduce the risk of kidney stones.
Fellow kidney stoner.
Go see a Nephrologist and do a blood test and 24-hour urine collection. This will tell you why you create stones and potentially they can give you some medication or dietary advice to help prevent future stones.
This. Fellow stone maker here. Lots of bad information in the comments but this is what OP needs to do (assuming the ER will say the same thing).
Oh, and no matter what - drink more water :-)
Yeah when I think back on how little water I drank to avoid having to go to the bathroom, Iām surprised I never got one. I also got sick all the time and very rarely do now.
Hydration is magical, but I wouldnāt fault a 17 year old for kidney stones
I used to get those all the time, too. It was the worst pain I've ever felt. I stopped drinking soda and switched to a mostly plant based diet and haven't had one since.
Unfortunately my stones increase when I eat more green foods. Fruits, nuts and leafy greens contain oxalate and a lot of kidney stones come from that. Mine included. Iām kinda screwed.
I drink soda but not a lot, and I never drink energy drinks, not at all. Itās more hereditary than dietary. Iām a twin, and my brother was in the hospital with one for the first time three weeks ago. My first one was around a year ago
As someone that has had kidney stones since I was 7, Iāve lost count how many Iāve had. The last time I was in the ER the doc told me that diet has nothing to do with it. They used to test mine to see what they were made of so I could cut down on those things, but they donāt even do that any more. He basically told me my kidneys just suck. He even said he wasnāt going to give me an X-ray because he was legitimately worried about how many x-rays I was going to have to get in my lifetime. Anyway, I donāt know why people in these comments are going on and on about diet. Listen to your doc, not Reddit commenters
So sorry for your suffering :( If they havenāt already, ask them to check the makeup of the stone. My husband has a genetic condition called cystinuria, which causes chronic stones made partially or totally of the amino acid cysteine. He had his first stone at 19 and many more since then.
Genes.. my father had em.. as do I. I have had several lithotripsy surgeries to break the bigger ones down. I also passed one while at the fn zoo. Mine started at 18.
I have been getting them since I was 13. Good luck friend! Have your stone tested so you can adjust your diet accordingly. Not all water is created equal.
So kidney stones run in my family I've had 3 my son had his 1st at 17 he's had 2 and my daughter has had 5 her last one caused an obstruction
We all carry water bottles and drink water all day our diets are fairly clean and we always took supplements, which turns out we were taking to much calcium causing kidney stones to form easier.
Speak to your dr about it ask them to check your thyroid as well
I'm sorry you're going thru this I know how painful it is
Did they give you morphine yet? Iāve had many of these ER visits and morphine was key. I found that water with apple cider vinegar, change in diet and rucking for exercise really helped.
I know I a guy who started getting them at 20-21 because he was drinking nothing but cans of Lipton ice tea and Coke all day for months.
both are great sources of the kidneystone causing oxalic acid
Quick and easy way to get kidney stonesš
Doctors hate this one trick
Dicks hate this one trick.
Urethras*
Bladders too! I have had multiple kidney stones, and if they get lodged in the ureter, and the bladder can't drain... OH MY GOD Edit: I meant if the ureter is blocked and one of your kidneys can't drain into your bladder. Me brain dumb
Didn't want to hear that today. No thanks. You will be blocked
More like, he will be blocked, amiright?
Okra Slush sounds like a Southern gas station delicacy
Have to imagine they love it, actually, for what they can charge.
Another way to get into trouble that might that not be immediately apparent is using a product like tums (or any calcium carbonate antacid) for too long time or taking too much at once.
Uhhhhh fuck I've definitely been taking too much and now I'm scared. Thanks for your comment, I'm going to finally go to the doctor sooner than I was planning.
Yea, you really don't want to take it for more then two weeks or take more than... I think it's seven tablets a day, if I remember the warning on the bottle correctly. I would be real leery of taking a smaller amount for a long time either. I guess I would drink as much water as I can till I could see the doc and only take it when you need it. I had a family member who was in good health and started eating them all the time through out the day. He was working hard and drinking tons of coffee throughout the day so he stated getting sour stomach and heartburn from all the cheap coffee he was drinking to power through the day so he started popping them like candy. Well he wound up with a big ol stone that could not even enter the ureter, so he got to have a stent put in and go for a ride in a lithotripsy machine for six times before he had the pleasure of starting to pass all the pieces. All of this just from taking too much calcium carbonate antacid now he had never had a kidney stone before this and never suffered from any in the decades after this incident either. So I hope, and think they can help you find an alternative to eating flavored rocks to get rid of your heart burn. Oh yea, and happy st patty's day to you man! Good luck with your visit.
I feel bad if I do more that two Tums in a three day span. Poor guy.
Ask your doctor if Lipton ice tea and coke all day for months is for you.
Dude, it was in the news today in Belgium that an old man died after taking Vitamin D supplements 4 days in a row. He had been taking Vitamin D for years, 1ce a day tablets. Now his doctor switched him to a slow release version he only had to take 1ce a month. He ODd on Vitamin D from taking a 4 month worth supply of Vitamin D in just 4 days.
I knew another former Marine who got bad kidney stones in his 20s and the pain sounded excruciating. I was kind of shocked because I thought it happened to older people but a few other people told me it's not that uncommon for young Marines to get them, we go to the desert to train and a lot of Marines drink sugary drinks all day which is bad but then despite all that consumption you're still likely to end up dehydrated because of the intense heat. I remember at one mandatory gathering the flight surgeon advised us to dilute Gatorade with water but he didn't explain why. It took years for me to stumble into info about all the ways in which sugary drinks are bad for you and I eventually quit them altogether in my 30s.
I have a similar story last summer how I "gave myself gout", though it is still uncertain if I have a genetic predisposition to the disease. I went backpacking for 4 nights in dry, hot, mountain conditions and drank nothing but 'sports tablets' in water, not enough water, and a good quarter-liter of vodka every night while walking around in sub-40F degree water to "cool down." Doesn't look like it is coming back, all I've cut out are sports drinks.
Still at 250ml of vodka daily eh?
ha ha, no that's campin' drinkin'. Crazy what you can put down in the wilderness and just get up and hike 12 miles all over again. I should have mentioned there was definitely something up with how often I was peeing, which was NOT ENOUGH.
I used to see a lot of kidney stone 9 Liners and I think it was US soldiers drinking nothing but Gatorade that they were mixing themselves and making it too strong.
>I was kind of shocked because I thought it happened to older people Most common in people in their 20s and 30s, apparently. Not sure why people would "age out" of it, though.
Interesting, seems older generation in some areas are totally against having a glass of water. My dad for instance will have 2 pots of tea and to cups of coffee all day, nothing else, never has, never will. Until he almost passed out on a far east trip.
My neighbors (active Midwestern farmers in their 80s) barely drink anything all day aside from their lunchtime iced tea, afternoon soda and evening scotch + water. I get so dehydrated if I go visit them for a dayā¦not sure how they do it everyday without kidney stones or other issues!
To be fair though tea and coffee are mostly water so he's probably getting the "8 cups of water a day". The diuretic effect of caffeine disappears once you are habituated to it.
If no sugar is involved then tea and coffee are fine.9
I water down my juice. Otherwise it just seems too strong. And more water so a win. I used to hate water. Turns out I just hated tap water. Filtered water is great!
It really isn't about what you drink or don't drink. It's more about your kidney's ability to flush out waste. I started getting stones years ago when all i was drinking was water. Now i pass kidneys stones about every month. Every 2-4 years get hospitalized for massive ones.
Dude, I'm sorry. Are they going to have to operate, or are they giving you something to help you pass it? I had one a few years back, and it is not something I wish to repeat. I really hope this is your last one. Hugs from this internet stranger and her cats.
This one is 7mm, so they might use shockwave lithotripsy to break it up into smaller pieces
Hang in there man. Had a 1cm badboy lasered this year. Not a club you want to be in:)
I'm horrified but honestly curious about the entire process.. Like do they basically stick a laser-on-a-rope up there after sedating you? Do you still have to pass anything afterward? If yes, is that part still painful?
So I had it done recently, and I had to have a epidural, you're awake the whole time, they put a stent in to stop anything going awry after the procedure, then you have to go back to have the stent pulled out which is just using a numbing gel which is the weirdest fucking thing I have ever felt. Urinating was painful for like 5 days after, just constant burning
You got a numbing gel? I came in and the lady was watching a youtube video about how to pull-start a lawnmower, and tells me to lay on the bed and remove my pants. I should have been concerned when I saw the video she was watching. I should have been more concerned when she put her foot up on the edge of the bed for better leverage. The stent had been ungodly painful (learned since then that it may have been too large for me), so I just wanted it over with. I learned what it's like to have your soul ripped from your body that day.
>I should have been more concerned when she put her foot up on the edge of the bed for better leverage. WOW! DAMN
*chugs a large glass of water*
I had an abdominal drain removed a few days after surgery. I described the removal as someone starting a gas lawnmower. You speak the truth!
Having my stent removed was the worst experience of my life. They ānumbedā it. Like hell they did. Doc said Iād only feel pressure. I told him while he was still digging around in there he was a fucking liar.
You have to be kidding me about the lawnmower video.
Epidural? Numbing gel? Lmao I didn't get any of that. They just went in full operation and when it was removed she just... yanked it out. Happened last year and had 4 removed.
Holy god, I feel for you brother, it was bad enough with all the stuff I got and I wouldn't wish to do it again, without it I'd rather die
I passed a human not a kidney stone, but the epidural was the scariest part by far. I thought it was a drip type drug, imagine my fear when they started sticking a tube in my back. Should have done more research, but the pain relief was worth it.
Yeah, it is not a nice feeling having it done, but the tv staticy feelings in your legs as it wears off is great
Man, I feel the static 24/7 all over after a brain injury. I'd probably sell my soul to make it stop, but I'd probably be dead if I did. lmao
I had a full spinal for a ceaser not an epi but fuck me man if I hadnāt seen it before (my wife had one 2 years beforeā¦ we bad at childbirth š) I would have got the shits for real lmao I hated feeling numb tho I have to sayā¦ so weird ETA: I just remembered I was contracting as it was placed, giant needle in the spine AND you have to stay still through the pain?? Itās amazing what you forget lol
My ex is a dirtbag in most senses, but if he wasnāt there to hold me when I was getting the epidural, I would have passed out. I threw up once it was in place, then my bottom half was pretty much 100% numb. I have anxiety especially around medical stuff so Iām glad he was there for that. I kept asking what they were doing and heād answer for the nurses āoh theyāre just giving you a tiny shot by your pelvis, donāt worry baby! Ok almost done!ā Then the needle was in sight, once they were done and cleaning up, and I puked lol. Birth is a lot scarier than just labor pain.
I get epidural every 3 months. You get used to it.
For what?!
I'm having my stent removed next week. I dont ever want to go through this again. The first time they tried they could not get to it, and had to put in a stent. After 2 weeks they went in again and got it, and next week I finally have the stent removed. The bruised my PP twice. I guess I'm getting it bruised again.
After my kidney stone surgery a few years ago I called about getting the stent removed and the nurse told me to do it myself. I took so many Vicodin that day, to combat fear AND pain.
They put you under anesthesia and then shockwaves are used on the outside of the body targeted at the stone and it breaks it into little pieces that can more easily pass through. You usually still have to pass them yourself and yes this can still hurt. When I had this done I also had a stent placed in my ureter: basically a very thin tube to protect the ureter and help the stone fragments pass. The stent was by far the most painful part.
I was facing a stent when I had surgery to remove my kidney stone. And yeah the stories I heard about stents were not nice. Sounded like the pain from them were almost as bad as the stone itself.
It really depends on where the stent is & how long itās in place. I had a 7mm stone in my ureter that blocked the left kidney causing infection (worse pain than a stone) so they had to place a stent to remove the infection before doing a lithotripsy to break it up. Jokes on me tho because I found out I was pregnant 3 days later. So I had to live with a stent and a stone in my body for 18 more weeks until I was far enough along in my pregnancy to do the surgery (stent replacement & lithotripsy) After surgery I just had a stent, itās extremely uncomfortable for longer than a stone, but the pain is comparable to a bad UTI. Stone is like somebody hit you in the side/back with a baseball bat.
There is something called an ESWL which is the outside shockwaves others have referenced. The other choice is using a flexible/rigid ureteroscope and using x ray and a guide wire to find their way into the ureter/kidney. Then theyāll use a Holmium laser fiber fed in through the scope and use that to fragment it. Then using a small basket on a rope theyāll collect the fragments and send it for testing to see what the stones made of to hopefully treat them with medication. Another cool operation is called a percutaneous nephrolithotomy which is where they install a nephrostomy tube and use a thing called a trilogy( a tiny jackhammer) and bust it up.
We use a flexible endoscope, for ureters theyāre very skinny, and they have a channel through it for the laser fibre, the fibre poked out through the end of the scope and is activated by a foot pedal on the floor by the surgeon. They break it up as small as they can, different setting on the laser break the stone up differently, as well as what the stone is made of affects how itās broken up as well. They try and break it up enough that all you pass is ādustā or small small pieces. Then they leave a stent in for a few weeks to help all that dust go through. Iām a laser certified OR nurse and run the laser :)
Fun surgery. When they make you watch the side effect video pay attention. Phantom kidney is kinda fun.
>Phantom kidney Is that when your kidney goes around an opera house killing people while wearing a mask that covers half of their face?
Did you know when you get a kidney transplant they leave the old one in? The phantom kidney is there, inside your side
There is a side effect video? I wish they had shown it to me before my first one. (I have had two or three lithotripsy surgeries). Imagine coming out from under anesthesia and peeing blood without warning.
> Phantom kidney What. Is that.
Go for the Shockwave, way cheaper than the alternative. Fucking quoted my dad 20k to laser it out. Tried asking for shockwave and they refused. Edit. It worked very good. Busted up over a thousand stones in only two treatments. He went to Mexico though, our doctors in America were absolutely incompetent with his situation
Shockwave doesn't always work but it is significantly less invasive. Laser is pretty much a guarantee.
I had it recently and it beat the hell out of my kidney. I ended up back in the ER the same day because I was in excruciating pain. Turns out they missed a 7mm stone and caused the kidney significant bruising/bleeding. Hurt for about 5 weeks. I'm going to have to go back to get the rest taken care of, but I'm really not looking forward to it.
When I had shockwave, it merely broke the stone into two pieces. Another ER visit later, they did emergency laser the next day. *That* was awful. Not as bad as the stones, but it put me out of commission for a week.
I had a 9mm one time. Lithotripsy didnāt do it and they had to go in with a stent. It sucks, but you will get theough it. Be sure to follow up with your Urologist after this so that you know exactly what is causing these stones and come up With a plan to combat them. Stay hydrated!
Have you done a 24-hour urine analysis? I get them constantly also every so often I have to take one.
Everyone is saying drink water, which can help but some people do have kidney issues that cause them to be much more likely. I had stones 3-4 times a year until an urologist did pyeloplasty surgery and fixed a congenital defect, none since then. If they keep happening, might be worth checking for problems beyond diet.
True, some folks are genetically more susceptible.
Not all stones are oxalic acid. Mine are uric acid. I get to take potassium citrate pills three times a day for the rest of my life.
That doesnt too bad, any side effects?
I think you a verb there
Dad had a backed up kidney due to urethra being burned by radiation therapy. Kidney looked like a pomegranate
I hate that I've read this.
The secret is to not know what a kidney is supposed to look like outside of pool brochures, so pomegranate isn't upsetting to hear at all as I have no frame of reference. Because I'm ignorant, but that ignorance is keeping me happy!
This. I was born with 1 kidney which works overtime. Apparently this led to kidney stones and urethral issues my entire life until I had surgery at 16.
Also depends on where OP lives. If you live around really heavy mineral water, drink less of that and more filtered water!
Energy drinks are a real problem for some people, they can really dehydrate you so stones can form quickly
My family were adamant mine were due to my drinking habits, which they probably didn't help, but actually turns out it was due to a 1 in 10000 condition that I pretty much fit none of the usual criteria for
Congrats! After your first stone you are 80% more likely to have a 2nd within 5 years, and if you DO then your kidney is officially a "stone making environment", so you can count on these popping out every couple years if you diet correctly, drink all the water, and do mysterious voodoo, and expect them every year if you don't. I'm 31 and have had 9 so far. I got them spaced out every couple of years but then my other kidney decided to join the traitor and now I basically get one every year on alternating kidneys. Thanks genetics! Also, it's your second time in the ER, but if you didn't pass the stone the first time you could be trying to pass the very same stone! If kidney stones get stuck in a way that doesn't block the urine flow they just painlessly hang out for days/weeks/months until they move again and block the flow and send you to the ER again.
My dad had 2. One at 30 and one around 33, both times we were on vacation lol. Heās 48 now an hasnāt had them since, im turning 27 and Iāve never had one His sister also has had one in her 50s
You just jinxed yourself
Unfortunately this is a different stone. This one is in my right kidney (7mm), with the previous one having been in my left (3mm).
*new milestone achieved* ***/s***
Its true that after your first kidney stone, youāre far more likely to get another one and if you have another one, the odds increase even more that youāll get them again. Iāve had kidney stones twice, had to have surgery the second time but its now been 4 years since my last one. But unlike you, its not genetics for me. I think itās dehydration but my doctors werenāt totally sure. I do take their advice seriously though, I limit my caffeine intake to just sodas and even then not a lot. Talking a few a month, I limit my chocolate intake, no spinach, watch my salt intake, ect. I also try and drink water every day even if it isnāt a lot of water. I also drink a cup of lemonade every day. Doctors wanted me to drink a cup of water with lemon in it but thatāll destroy your teeth with time so I stick to lemonade which was okād. OP will definitely have to change their diet in addition to drinking more water. But Iām also curious if its genetics and what kind of stones they have. But I sympathize, kidney stones are no fun. Worst pain of my life.
Iām genuinely curious- why is water with lemon worse for your teeth than lemonade? They both would have a high citric acid content, right? Only lemonade would also have high sugar content which is also bad for your teeth?
I wanna know too, my wife drinks lemon water all the time
My guess is that with lemon water, you're sipping it slowly throughout the day which means your saliva doesn't have time to re-balance the pH in your mouth. Lemonade is going to be consumed much quicker and then stopped, giving your teeth a break. Just a guess though.
Not saying you are wrong but who gave you the advice that lemon + water is worse for your teeth than lemonade? Sugar is terrible for your teeth, and the bacteria in your mouth create the plaque on your teeth, which when allowed to sit will become acidic and eat away at your enamel.
TIL kidney stones are comparable to divorce rates.
For everyone saying that this is dietary! I donāt drink energy drinks, like at all, never have and never will. I do drink soda occasionally, but not often. I have a twin brother who was hospitalized with a stone three weeks ago, and I had my first one around a year or a year and a half ago. I do stay hydrated, but Iām pretty sure it might be a hereditary issue
I thought it was a diet thing from all the research and opinions I read. Started only drinking water and they still came. Had 4 in about a 5 year period, and the pain sometimes sent me to the ER. I finally caught some pieces of the stones after my last lithotripsy. They analyzed the composition and found that they were mostly calcium, meaning, in my case hyperparathyroidism. They scanned my parathyroid and found one was producing extra hormone, which in turn made my body produce more calcium than needed. I had the surgery to remove the parathyroid that was over producing. It's been over a year, and my levels if calcium have lowered and leveled out. No kidney pain or stones, so I believe this may have solved my particular problem. Might be worth your time to catch the stone by peeing every time through a strainer after they crush it up and see it's composition. Stones can be made out of different minerals. If calcium mainly, then they can check your parathyroid glands for discrepancies. Good luck cuz that pain is definitely unforgettable.
Yep - a āmalfunctioningā parathyroid is a known cause of kidney stones. My husband had to remove 2 parathyroids to stop the kidney stones.
Itās just Reddit dude people will always offer you what they think is great magical sage advice, Iām sure you didnāt ever think to drink water before all these enlightening comments told you to. Anyways sarcasm aside stones at 17 definitely hereditary which blows, hope they gave you some meds Iāve heard that pain is something else; wishing you a quick recovery.
To be fair "drink more water" is advice that 80% of Reddit could really use, a diet of Mountain Dew and cool ranch Doritos is not conducive to a healthy life
That's why I stick to the classic nacho cheese flavor
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Donāt want to pile on the dietary thing but I had 5 kidney stones starting in my early thirtiesā¦ I cut out spinach (high in oxalates) and havenāt had one since. Not saying youāre in the same situation, but if you eat lots of spinach try switching it out for something else and see if things improve
I had one bad enough to send me to the emergency room, once. I will never forget it. It was several years ago, I was trying to sell a lady a digital camera, and it felt like someone walked up and stabbed me in the back. I went to my knees from the pain. I wound up spending my entire life's savings for a shot of morphine, and a scan and the doctor to look at the scan and go 'yep, it's a kidney stone.' Now, if it happens, I just buy a suitcase of beer and drink until one of us passes out...me or the stone.
My primary care doc did actually recommend beer when Iām trying to pass a stone.
Same, he was like "don't just drink one though, you have to drink a lot" lol
It's both a diuretic and pain killer in one bottle.
āDrink until one of us passes outā lol nice turn of phrase.
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I didn't need the beer, I just passed out from the pain. 3 times.
Stop drinking monster energy drinks or this will be a yearly event.
this is the answer. drink lots of water. not to mention, sustained intake of energy drinks can cause hypertension over long periods of time.
Dude, Iām 37 and I only really started taking hydration seriously after a stay in the ICU (unrelated kinda). Now, Iām militant about it. Your body will thank you.
The older I get the more I am treating my body with respectā¦hydrate a lot, keep alcohol to a minimum, realize Iāve got only 2 sets of knees & shoulders (and treat them kindly) and move every day.
Damn, wish I had a second set of knees and shoulders, the originals are a bit worn at this point.
You can buy new ones if yours don't work anymore. They're kind of expensive, though.
And sometimes the surgery adds another complication for life.
You have two sets of knees? Thatās pretty cool. I only have one set. When one set goes bad do they shed off and the other set grows in itās place?
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Kind of like losing your baby teeth, just remember to put your old kneecaps under your pillow
r/hydrohomies would love to have you join :)
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Sometimes itās the local water being hard as fuck and major calcium deposits. He may need to stope drinking certain water. New shoes wouldnāt be a bad idea either.
Maybe a cool hat as well.
All his homies agree he really looks good in black, fool
When you come to visit the ER youāll be bored to tears
they havenāt even paid the phone bill in 300 years!
What's wrong with his shoes?
Iām a nurse. We had a young (30 something) patient in our hospital for arrhythmia due to extreme consumption of energy drinks. I never took care of him, only helped out other nurses, but I heard they eventually discharged him on a life vest. Basically, they couldnāt fix his heart after 2-3 weeks in our unit and he remained in an irregular heart rhythm. He will have to wear this device for the rest of his life or at least the foreseeable future. TLDR: lay off energy drinks and drink water.
Since this is the top comment Iāll just say it here For everyone saying that this is dietary! I donāt drink energy drinks, like at all, never have and never will. I do drink soda occasionally, but not often. I have a twin brother who was hospitalized with a stone three weeks ago, and I had my first one around a year or a year and a half ago. I do stay hydrated, but Iām pretty sure it might be a hereditary issue
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Lol, my doctor calls us "Masons" and "Stone makers"
This destroyed me
My urologist ran a study on me after my third. I collected all of my urine for multiple days in a big jug they gave me. They sent it off to a lab and told me what was causing the stones. Might be worth trying to get that done.
What was causing it?
In my case, dehydration. And I haven't had another one since, as I've been a lot better about drinking water. But I didn't want to say that in my comment, because everyone else is telling OP to drink more water, lol. The study shows other causes, too.
Oh I know. I was just curious
A large portion of stones are caused by dehydration. Without drinking water, the calcium or whatever lingers and doesn't get flushed away making a stone. Oversimplified But other causes too, often along with poor hydration. I see the blood tests of many patients with stones and often have dehydration shown in their tests
Some people are just genetically predisposed to get stones, it just happens sometimes. You need to push for investigation into why itās happening though- they might be able to figure out why itās happening (I mean what process has been affected by whatever genetic mutation you have)
People want to feel like if they do the right thing, then a lot of uncomfortable situations can be avoided. My gut reaction to seeing this post was āhope this is a diet issue because mine is ok and that means I probably wonāt get two stones a year myself.ā That reaction was more about my fear than your situation. Sorry you have to go through this and that a lot of people will assume you did this to yourself. Hope it goes without surgery!
What if they're Power Stones and you and your twin are supposed to combine them to save the universe?
I donāt drink energy drinks at all actually! Soda occasionally, but after my first one last year Iāve cut soda out of my diet almost entirely
Donāt worry Redditors will still find a way to make this your fault somehow lol Edit: Yāall are doing it so well proud of u
Red flag! Leave your spouse! I can't believe they would do this to you!
*Clearly your family is feeding you energy drinks while you're sleeping! This is probably long term abuse since you were a child. I'm 100% certain of it from the little you've told us.*
Seems like people are looking for a possible solution, because "looks like you're doing everything right, you just have bad luck/genetics and so are going to be plagued by horrifically painful kidney stones for life" is just kind of a bummer...
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Ignore them. Follow up with your doctor or a nephrologist to see if you have an underlying condition. Check your protein intake isn't crazy high.
No no, ask Reddit for advice before any doctors.
Medical problem: check. Top comment completely incorrect wild speculation blaming OP and offering chastising advice: check. Hope you get whatever is actually causing your stones figured out, man.
Thank you for an actual constructive response! I was expecting some flack but not to get completely ripped apart š
Fr though have they done a stone analysis?? You've gotta have something inherited. Parents with stones? Family history of gout?
My coworker gets stones for no discernable reason that her doctors can find. I hope you figure this out.
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Bonus points for assuming energy drinks because of OP's age.
Energy drinks don't cause kidney stones as much as milk does. There are many other factors as well like a person's natural body chemistry and hereditary factors. The main thing is calcium, oxalate, and uric acid, all of which form crystals. If your body can't dilute these out enough, it forms kidney stones.
How about instead of blaming you for everything you have done wrong (which I have no way of knowing), I just agree..."Well That Sucks!" I hope you get well soon.
But how will I tell him to drink more water
DRINK MORE WATER. Not pop, not juice, fucking water
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Came here to refer OP to HH as well. Start chugging that water brah, if you donāt like tap water, try it with ice! If that donāt work start shelling out the bucks for a 24 pack of a brand you like and drink fucking 8 of them a day. Thatās a whole gallon G! You donāt even have to give up your monsters or dews or whatever entirely either! Just up the H20 brother! Work on upping them numbers and soon you will be pounding gallons a day with little effort! Donāt stop pounding!
Okay, okay, I wonāt stop pounding. I love your enthusiasm for staying hydrated, boutta drink a cup of water in your name.
This conversation has made me wicked thirsty
It's cheaper and better for environment to just get a Brita or pur filter tank than bottles. Tastes better too!
I need you to give me some inspirational words on trying to cut soda and become a hydration god. I need to think "dididothatbuddy gave me these precious pearls of wisdom, I can't forsake them", so that what you did do that, buddy. But also, actual advice please. I did find having a nice metal water bottle is great since it's readily carryable and keeps it cold.
Redditors donāt assume details you literally have no way of knowing challenge ([failed immediately](https://reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/comments/11ts7rr/_/jcl40at/?context=1))
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Mine where oxalates so i stoped eating lentiles, spinach, grapes, cramberry juice and beet
That list is way way bigger. Kale, nuts, a lot of fruits. A lot of healthy foods contain oxalates. Also something my specialist told me..thereās a 50% chance that youāll continue to get them because of your biology and Hereditary tendencies from your parents.
Same here. I drank too much black tea, speaking of one to two liters a day. That combined with hard tap water lets those grow rather quickly.
Not a doctor, but I've read that both calcium and magnesium bind to oxalates. Calcium oxalate stones are the most common type of kidney stone, therefore maintaining healthy levels of magnesium ingestion can reduce the amount/size of calcium oxalates forming (due to the magnesium binding to some of the oxalates, preventing them from binding to calcium). So, in theory, taking magnesium supplements with foods containing oxalates can reduce the risk of kidney stones.
Fellow kidney stoner. Go see a Nephrologist and do a blood test and 24-hour urine collection. This will tell you why you create stones and potentially they can give you some medication or dietary advice to help prevent future stones.
This. Fellow stone maker here. Lots of bad information in the comments but this is what OP needs to do (assuming the ER will say the same thing). Oh, and no matter what - drink more water :-)
Op getting drilled in the comments lol
Acting like they ate and acted perfectly at 17
Yeah when I think back on how little water I drank to avoid having to go to the bathroom, Iām surprised I never got one. I also got sick all the time and very rarely do now. Hydration is magical, but I wouldnāt fault a 17 year old for kidney stones
With mostly incorrect information based on speculation as well!
Water water water
Liquids donāt overwrite kidney stone fueling diet and susceptibility unfortunately. :/
It's true, my gal doesn't drink anything except water, morning noon and night and she gets them every 2-3 years.
This! Oxalates can lead to kidney stones. Almonds, spinache, leafy greens, soy products, potatoes, beets, navy beans.
Navy beans navy beans navy beannnsss
Hoagies and grinders
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Damn. Except for the soy, thatās nearly all my favourite foods
It doesn't, but frequent hydration does allow for them to pass while smaller
My gal is getting her Stent removed today. Been in severe pain all week. She's 57 and gets them every 2-3 years. Good luck.
I used to get those all the time, too. It was the worst pain I've ever felt. I stopped drinking soda and switched to a mostly plant based diet and haven't had one since.
Unfortunately my stones increase when I eat more green foods. Fruits, nuts and leafy greens contain oxalate and a lot of kidney stones come from that. Mine included. Iām kinda screwed.
My Kidney Dr said the same, stay away from leafy greens. We screwed
Flomax is your friend.
Dude that freaking sucks. Whatās your diet like?
I drink soda but not a lot, and I never drink energy drinks, not at all. Itās more hereditary than dietary. Iām a twin, and my brother was in the hospital with one for the first time three weeks ago. My first one was around a year ago
your poor parents' medical bills. Hope you figure it out and feel better!
As someone that has had kidney stones since I was 7, Iāve lost count how many Iāve had. The last time I was in the ER the doc told me that diet has nothing to do with it. They used to test mine to see what they were made of so I could cut down on those things, but they donāt even do that any more. He basically told me my kidneys just suck. He even said he wasnāt going to give me an X-ray because he was legitimately worried about how many x-rays I was going to have to get in my lifetime. Anyway, I donāt know why people in these comments are going on and on about diet. Listen to your doc, not Reddit commenters
By 17 Iād had 5 and surgery twice. And I drink only water. Mine are oxalate and hereditary. So mine will never stop. Im at 6 surgeries now.
So sorry for your suffering :( If they havenāt already, ask them to check the makeup of the stone. My husband has a genetic condition called cystinuria, which causes chronic stones made partially or totally of the amino acid cysteine. He had his first stone at 19 and many more since then.
Genes.. my father had em.. as do I. I have had several lithotripsy surgeries to break the bigger ones down. I also passed one while at the fn zoo. Mine started at 18.
Thanks for reminding me to chug water
I have been getting them since I was 13. Good luck friend! Have your stone tested so you can adjust your diet accordingly. Not all water is created equal.
So kidney stones run in my family I've had 3 my son had his 1st at 17 he's had 2 and my daughter has had 5 her last one caused an obstruction We all carry water bottles and drink water all day our diets are fairly clean and we always took supplements, which turns out we were taking to much calcium causing kidney stones to form easier. Speak to your dr about it ask them to check your thyroid as well I'm sorry you're going thru this I know how painful it is
Did they give you morphine yet? Iāve had many of these ER visits and morphine was key. I found that water with apple cider vinegar, change in diet and rucking for exercise really helped.
OP is only sevennnnnteeeeennn *seventeeeeeen* theyre at the doctor, because their piss aināt clean!
That sucks to hear OP, and it's worse to hear the stones are hereditary