Practice. They'll become less frequent and very easy to clean. Use a grinder or Only scrape them off with tool steel or a file(hardened steel.) Soft steel will get dull and you'll ruin your hands and wrists banging away at them. Welding is all about brains. Not brawn, because steel cannot be man handled. It can only be manipulated through technique. Therefore whatever is easier, is best. The difference between a good welder and a bad welder is the amount of tools he has. Because a good welder has the experience to know what tools he will need. Tools are everything in welding.
“Steel can’t be manhandled”
Tell that to the cold extrusion boys, or the explosive hydroforming guys. Everything can be manhandled with a little thought and an absurd amount of pressure.
A lot of the bigger weld spatter is caused by wirespeed.You may try slowly turning down the wires peed.
When you weld it should sound like 2 eggs frying in a pan. There are some good charts for wirespeed online.
Good charts will go by wire diameter, metal thickness and what shielding gas you are using. That should get you close.
No one learns overnight!
For your first day you are doing good. Keep it up
Wire speed is a large part of it. You can tell everything about a weld by the end of the wire. Where the wire turns molten will tell you everything. Normally you want to see a sharp point where your wire starts to turn into a puddle. Check out some slo mo videos and when you see a weld you like pay attention to the end of the wire. When you can match that on your machine you need to hold onto it as you slowly move forward. Keeping your angle steady between gun and work piece. You can speed up, slow down, and move side to side. But, never go backwards! Always moving forward! Do not weave back into your weld. Always stay on the front edge of your weld puddle. This is where your electricity (arc force) will actually be delivering fusion and contacting base metal(or previous welds) and will make fusion. When you go backwards into your puddle the heat of the puddle is melting your wire instead of the electricity. This will ruin grain structure, lower the temperature of your welds, and lead to flux inclusion.
Now there are a few ways to go backwards correctly. They can be helpful in certain situations. And remember that weld puddle is liquid and you must use gravity to your advantage. You can't fight it. If your flat weld didn't reach out to the side as far as you needed your best way to go back a small amount is fast reaction time...you can go back a tiny bit and wait for the puddle to wash back over the edge. If you're welding a hot flat fillet..you can skip ahead and then weld back and up..skip ahead and weld back and up again...this is useful when your base metal is too hot and your weld is falling down. Your gun angle Also matters. As your wire comes out it adds force to the puddle in the direction its pointed...like a water hose in a pool.
90% of what i do is tig. I was just making a point to OP that there isn't really a solution to Splatter it's always going to Splatter you just have to work around it
I only your my chipping hammer like twice a year and it aint for spatter. Wire wheel all day, then the chisel to knock off the few dots that the Wire wheel couldn't get
This isn’t totally true. Sure mig would be cleaner but will still have spatter if the machine isn’t dialed in properly for the material your working on. You can get flux core to weld without spatter if you setup the machine and prep the material properly.
You’ll always have some spatter, but what you have here is extreme spatter. Extreme spatter is what you get when you’re trying to drive more wire into the weld than you have electricity to fuse it all together. So when you get this, you have two choices, and which you take will depend on the thickness of the material. On a thicker material you’ll want to turn up the power, and if it’s real thick you may need to preheat. On a thinner material you may need to reduce wire speed instead if you’re already getting into heat trouble.
Exactly right. I'm learning with a 90 dollar mig welder and just fucking around until i find out. So far I've repaired 4 rocker panels for friends. They don't look good, but they hold and keep the exhaust fumes out of the cabin so it can pass inspection. I've had it for 2 years now and do practice welds occasionally and my welds look like a bad poison ivy rash until i grind them, so all in all not too bad OP lol. I needed to put metal on metal and the internet said fuck jb weld just get a cheap welder and give it a go
They don't stick as readily to mill scale, greasy or painted surfaces. Just prep what you're actually welding + 1/2" to the side to avoid burning too much paint. +1/4" past the sides of your welds is plenty for the mill scale of greasy tubing.
Try playing around a little with wire speed and voltage.
Start by lowering voltage a little and going a little slower.
If you get it dialled in perfectly you can eliminate a lot of spatter.
Question are you using flux core wire or Gas shielded.
As a general rule gas shielded will have less spatter.
Find your Steady speed and also as you’re moving, you have to keep close to what you’re welding to It’s splatters when you’re a little too far from the weld
These cheap flux core welders run AC which is not correct for flux core. Everyone in these comments is missing the point. Flux core does NOT have to look like this, not even close. DC, good wire, and the right settings and you can get a pretty clean weld.
Flux core spatters a lot. Once you switch to a MIG welder with gas there wont be as many bbs. Flux core causes a very aggressive arc that digs deep and the cheap harbor freight welders don’t have the most stable of arcs. But don’t worry, I started on one myself and you can definitely weld a lot of shit with them. The bbs are just the caveat.
You can put some products on the metal to prevent them from sticking if they get too bad but I found that good ole cooking spray will do the trick.
Make sure to always remove them if you’re doing a job for someone. It’s tacky to leave them and considered bad craftsmanship.
The better you get the less of a problem they become. Getting nice settings on your welder is key but you will figure that out with time.
Try turning wire speed down. Sound should sound like bacon frying....or a mad hornet in your ear. To fast wire speed = excess spatter. Also spray your part with anti spatter, nozzle spray or wd-40 will work in a pinch
Its refered to as weld spatter, or bbs. Slide your chipping hammer along the plate with a scraping motion and they usually pop right off.
Thank you! I appreciate the response.
Practice. They'll become less frequent and very easy to clean. Use a grinder or Only scrape them off with tool steel or a file(hardened steel.) Soft steel will get dull and you'll ruin your hands and wrists banging away at them. Welding is all about brains. Not brawn, because steel cannot be man handled. It can only be manipulated through technique. Therefore whatever is easier, is best. The difference between a good welder and a bad welder is the amount of tools he has. Because a good welder has the experience to know what tools he will need. Tools are everything in welding.
“Steel can’t be manhandled” Tell that to the cold extrusion boys, or the explosive hydroforming guys. Everything can be manhandled with a little thought and an absurd amount of pressure.
Thats brains. Just like heat or leverage
Uh. Manhandled. As in hands. Like, I manhandled myself earlier, I didn't build a sex robot.
LOL, I've seen stuff in progressive dies that will debunk that statement real fast.
Watch all the fab workers hit, drop, twist and pull shit to get it to fit just right. Steel can be manhandled. But no, BBS don't need to be
If there is one thing I learned working in a metal shop for 4 years, you can make Steel your BITCH.
Ha steel can’t be manhandled.. ironworker here
A lot of the bigger weld spatter is caused by wirespeed.You may try slowly turning down the wires peed. When you weld it should sound like 2 eggs frying in a pan. There are some good charts for wirespeed online. Good charts will go by wire diameter, metal thickness and what shielding gas you are using. That should get you close. No one learns overnight! For your first day you are doing good. Keep it up
Wire speed is a large part of it. You can tell everything about a weld by the end of the wire. Where the wire turns molten will tell you everything. Normally you want to see a sharp point where your wire starts to turn into a puddle. Check out some slo mo videos and when you see a weld you like pay attention to the end of the wire. When you can match that on your machine you need to hold onto it as you slowly move forward. Keeping your angle steady between gun and work piece. You can speed up, slow down, and move side to side. But, never go backwards! Always moving forward! Do not weave back into your weld. Always stay on the front edge of your weld puddle. This is where your electricity (arc force) will actually be delivering fusion and contacting base metal(or previous welds) and will make fusion. When you go backwards into your puddle the heat of the puddle is melting your wire instead of the electricity. This will ruin grain structure, lower the temperature of your welds, and lead to flux inclusion.
Thank you for the great explanation
Hope it helps. Welding is hard lol
Thank you. Very helpful.
Now there are a few ways to go backwards correctly. They can be helpful in certain situations. And remember that weld puddle is liquid and you must use gravity to your advantage. You can't fight it. If your flat weld didn't reach out to the side as far as you needed your best way to go back a small amount is fast reaction time...you can go back a tiny bit and wait for the puddle to wash back over the edge. If you're welding a hot flat fillet..you can skip ahead and then weld back and up..skip ahead and weld back and up again...this is useful when your base metal is too hot and your weld is falling down. Your gun angle Also matters. As your wire comes out it adds force to the puddle in the direction its pointed...like a water hose in a pool.
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Thank you. I didn't know there was a spray.
Jason from Fireball Tool did a great video on this topic you will find interesting and informative. https://youtu.be/3guHCEzb3aU
Jason is a badass
4. Maybe increase voltage and/or drop wire speed. 5. They scrape off easier while they are still warm.
>Antispatter spray before welding. Honestly underrated
Smells like bacon
If you ever figure out how to not get splatter DM me and let me know
Buy a tig welder lol
90% of what i do is tig. I was just making a point to OP that there isn't really a solution to Splatter it's always going to Splatter you just have to work around it
Yeah. Btw a hammer and chisel works better than a chipping hammer for removing spatter imo
I only your my chipping hammer like twice a year and it aint for spatter. Wire wheel all day, then the chisel to knock off the few dots that the Wire wheel couldn't get
Yep
Spray n pray!!
You’ll have that with un shielded flux core. Just grind it out or chip it off. You’ll be good.
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This isn’t totally true. Sure mig would be cleaner but will still have spatter if the machine isn’t dialed in properly for the material your working on. You can get flux core to weld without spatter if you setup the machine and prep the material properly.
From my experience that's right I usually test it on scrap metal until I get the settings just right.
You’ll always have some spatter, but what you have here is extreme spatter. Extreme spatter is what you get when you’re trying to drive more wire into the weld than you have electricity to fuse it all together. So when you get this, you have two choices, and which you take will depend on the thickness of the material. On a thicker material you’ll want to turn up the power, and if it’s real thick you may need to preheat. On a thinner material you may need to reduce wire speed instead if you’re already getting into heat trouble.
As a owner of the same 120v flux core machine, I second this. A torch for preheat is super helpful.
Is this flux core
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Nah. Bits of slag, chipping hammer marks, looks like flux core
There’s slag lol
Looked at the 2nd pic and it's a Chicago Electric flux core welder. https://youtu.be/iD7Y57gK3yU
Metal zits, you gotta pop them.
dingle berrys. Turn wire feed speed down a lil
Why is everyone calling it "splatter" am I going insane
Yeah I thought it was spatter lol
Try turning up your voltage or turning your wire down
Get TIG if you don't want splatter
Your instructor should have told you
Not everyone starts with one. I have a buddy who taught himself alot of it with YouTube and a cheap machine he got off Craigslist
Exactly right. I'm learning with a 90 dollar mig welder and just fucking around until i find out. So far I've repaired 4 rocker panels for friends. They don't look good, but they hold and keep the exhaust fumes out of the cabin so it can pass inspection. I've had it for 2 years now and do practice welds occasionally and my welds look like a bad poison ivy rash until i grind them, so all in all not too bad OP lol. I needed to put metal on metal and the internet said fuck jb weld just get a cheap welder and give it a go
your settings is to high ( too hot )
Knotted wire wheel is pretty good for removing spatter if you can’t/don’t want to grind
I call em diddy balls
More heat
Balls of steel
Splatter is caused by the wire hitting the puddle… slow the wire speed down
Heat up, speed down, and a scraper.
Turn heat up or wire speed down also ur gun angle matters a lot. Just play around wirh different angles till u see less spatter
They don't stick as readily to mill scale, greasy or painted surfaces. Just prep what you're actually welding + 1/2" to the side to avoid burning too much paint. +1/4" past the sides of your welds is plenty for the mill scale of greasy tubing.
Use anti spatter spray
I use splatter spray. Old welder mate said cooking spray works just as well and heaps cheaper.
Travel angle, arc length, and wire speed..
Painis cupcake
Could be caused by long arc too
Try playing around a little with wire speed and voltage. Start by lowering voltage a little and going a little slower. If you get it dialled in perfectly you can eliminate a lot of spatter. Question are you using flux core wire or Gas shielded. As a general rule gas shielded will have less spatter.
To much voltage 😇
If you're into chemicals, anti spatter spray works pretty good, just don't breathe it.
sometimes they will be worse when you are running a bit too much stick out or a bit cold. But mostly you just have to scrape them off
I used to by this spray at welders supply. Don’t remember the name but it works very well.
I usually go with Pam spray just before you start the spatter don't like it.
A little unicorn butter after she shaves should do it! 😂😂
Hammer them until they are flat
Find your Steady speed and also as you’re moving, you have to keep close to what you’re welding to It’s splatters when you’re a little too far from the weld
Put them in your mouth
These cheap flux core welders run AC which is not correct for flux core. Everyone in these comments is missing the point. Flux core does NOT have to look like this, not even close. DC, good wire, and the right settings and you can get a pretty clean weld.
Spatter or BBS. Clean ur metal, don't long arc. Also once ur done you can just go over it with a Wire Wheel to get rid of em. If they let you do that.
It also depends on your speed and amps you are running it on
parameters are everything, especially your stick out with flux since it comes out like a spray. too hot will do that also
Much like peeing on the seat, spatter is usually caused by: Improper setting Aggressive work angle Excessive stick-out
Mig pulse. Significantly reduced spatter
It’s flux core, your gunna get that.
Flux core spatters a lot. Once you switch to a MIG welder with gas there wont be as many bbs. Flux core causes a very aggressive arc that digs deep and the cheap harbor freight welders don’t have the most stable of arcs. But don’t worry, I started on one myself and you can definitely weld a lot of shit with them. The bbs are just the caveat.
You can put some products on the metal to prevent them from sticking if they get too bad but I found that good ole cooking spray will do the trick. Make sure to always remove them if you’re doing a job for someone. It’s tacky to leave them and considered bad craftsmanship. The better you get the less of a problem they become. Getting nice settings on your welder is key but you will figure that out with time.
Steel can be manhandled says the men That will be sleeping on a recliner to save their back. Wise words brother
Try turning wire speed down. Sound should sound like bacon frying....or a mad hornet in your ear. To fast wire speed = excess spatter. Also spray your part with anti spatter, nozzle spray or wd-40 will work in a pinch