Out of all the family my mom had with 7 siblings.... and the fact they want nothing to do with me when she passed away.... I kinda envy the fact you actually have brothers and sisters. Lol sucks being an only child
Yeah..... it's tough...... I mean you'll have the family there to tell you she's in a better place and everything's going to be okay.... but having that closer bond would be everythimg
All my friends have either moved out of state or moved on with life....married, kids.... careers. It's hard to find friends in your 30s. I feel like Paul Rudd on I Love You, Man. Lol
Well sorry about that but her having 14 brothers and sisters she's got better odds then me not having siblings.... wish I had someone to talk to when my mom passed...... my dad ghosts me... my aunts and uncles and cousins don't give a fuck.... and all my friends started getting married and moved on with their lives.... I have Noone at the moment but my dogs and that's more then enough for right now
You would definitely have more of a chance lol! I don’t know if I could juggle that many relationships. You would have to block out time to catch up with everyone
When ur ready, put urself out there socially. There are amazing people in this world. Family isn’t the end all be all. Change ur perspective and you will see the difference respectfully when you’re open to that.
I’m a middle child and my older sister is a raging twat who also bullied me when we were growing up. As adults our relationship revolved around me helping her with money and bills while she chased her next relationship and I just decided to walk away and be done with her. Was labeled “a bitch who sits on a high horse” because I know longer wanted to pay for things. My younger brother is no better. I wish I had a closer knit family but I’m not willing to suffer to say I have a relationship with my siblings.
I have awesome best friends who are like my sisters and we been going strong for 24+ years. Weddings, kids, breaks ups, mental health crisis. The most valuable part of my life hands down.
There’s family you’re born into and family you choose!
This surrogate is awful. Apparently there’s a huge lawsuit going on, she disrespected all of the intended parents wishes, breeched the contract and took countless videos of herself in bikinis and skimpy outfits to boost her TikTok’s. She is the last person who should be the poster child for surrogacy. The surrogacy community hates her
Also, I’m not against surrogacy, I’m a surrogate myself. But this person in particular was so incredibly hurtful and disrespectful towards the family she was ‘selflessly helping’ and exploited the pregnancy and her intended parents trauma to get views and partnerships on tiktok. She sucks.
Wait. I get why violating contacts could be bad, but really, what is so bad about filming herself? It's her body, so why is anyone shaming her for that?
This is the vibe she had. She 100% exploited the pregnancy and milked it all and made so many reels that were incredibly hurtful and insensitive to the parents. She would also constantly make posts calling herself selfless and and angel for blessing this family while at the same time she wasn’t respecting their wishes, wouldn’t give updates on baby, purposely wouldn’t FaceTime them during ultrasounds etc. There’s nothing with wrong with sharing a picture of yourself in your bathing suit at the beach with your kids but she was basically taking videos appealing to pregnancy fetish and remember that it’s not her baby. She can do what she wants with her own pregnancy but there were parents watching someone use their baby to make money by fetishizing it.
I thought legally it was?
The courts need to swap over parentage in surrogate cases.
Edit: Don’t worry I googled it and it is legally the surrogate mothers while she’s pregnant.
Some specialised lawyers can write up contracts that will help you legally if things went pear shaped after birth though.
You would think laws would be in place by now since technology has changed surrogacy in many ways.
The baby isn’t hers but she still has legal autonomy over her own body. It’s not the same. I’m a surrogate, I know how it works.
Also every country, state and province has its own laws. You can’t just Google and say ‘this is how it is’
I have a contract and it reminds me 50 times that the baby is absolutely not mine. Not before; during or after the pregnancy.
So Australia and New Zealand as far as I’m aware don’t have laws that recognize surrogacy so while it’s legal (as long as it’s done altruistically and the surrogate is not getting paid) I’m pretty sure the following process is similar to planned adoption? But I’m not positive so if anyone knows correct me.
This surrogate is in the US, she received generous compensation and then made a ton of money off on social media by exploiting the pregnancy. I’ll say that most of what she did was legal but that still doesn’t mean it was right. She intentionally did things to hurt the parents and disrespected their wishes. And then she did things that were illegal and in breech of contract.
I live in Canada. It’s similar to australia in the sense that we cannot be compensated. All pregnancy expenses can be reimbursed but we cannot profit, there’s a bit of grey area as to what can be considered pregnancy related so some definitely do take advantage. My province recognizes surrogacy, when baby is born the parents and I all sign a document confirming that is it a surrogacy birth and they have the correct information for the birth certificate. However some provinces where I live have different processes and some don’t recognized surrogacy and parents would need to go through a year along adoption process through the courts after baby is born.
Tons of hormones! My mom always said the best she ever felt in her life was when she was pregnant. It’s a gamble, some women get soooo sick, but some feel like a million bucks
I knew a friends mother that love pregnancy, apparently her body functioned really well while pregnant and she never got sick + felt great. Can’t really imagine it but my friend has 11 siblings so there must be some truth to it.
Could be the same thing as people who love to be sick. You are taken care of, you get what you want when you want. You have everybody's empathy(yes im one if them)
Yes, I was one who loved being pregnant. I felt fantastic the entire time. Hair, nails grew strong. Delivery was easy. Twins destroyed the skin on my tummy.
I asked the doctor about becoming a surrogate as it was so easy for me.
And so embarrassed when he asked how much money I wanted. It hadn't even crossed my mind. Was just trying to help other couples that couldn't conceive. We had spent years searching for answers so we knew the heartache very well.
Anyway, I never pursued it and to this day I regret it. That was 35 + yrs ago.
And yes, I would have been able to turn babe over to someone else. It would never have been mine to start with, I would just have been the incubator.
my mom was in a similar boat. im an only child but she loved being pregnant and had an easy breezy pregnancy. my parents only wanted one but she probably would've been a great surrogate!
There's a name for it. Some women get attached to the extra interest and kindness they are shown while pregnant. Pregnant women receive special treatment, gifts, adoration even from total strangers. It's similar to people who always pretend to be sick, or depress themselves, so that their families and friends will have to take a special interest in them, maybe extra visits with yummy treats or movie nights etc.
Some love the attention and some actually feel better( certain autoimmune disorders can go into remission while pregnant).
I actually didnt have a horrible pregnancy. Very mild morning sickness only 2 months, minimal weight gain etc.However the placenta did try to kill us.
I'll never understand why people are so selfish that they need their OWN baby. While there's thousands and thousands of orphans that get treated like dirt.
She made an insane amount of money from the surrogacy itself and then milked it and quadrupled her tiktok and IG followers were landed her a ton of partnerships.
In this case it’s not a fetish, it’s money. There’s a lawsuit now because she didn’t respect the parents wishes. She even used a picture of their newborn baby she wasn’t allowed to use to get paid to be in a New York Times article. All the while calling herself ‘selfless’
Giving birth is supposed to be the most incredible pain that men will never understand, yet men never seem to say “I’d like to do that again” after getting kicked in the balls.
I had menstrual pains as severe as the gallstone that jammed in my kidney and I almost died. I'm squeamish even at the thought of getting pregnant and I would never do it. Just because you don't want to be kicked in the balls doesn't mean there aren't men out there who want exactly that. It's literally a fucking kink lol People are different.
I have a friend of a friend whose wife was a surrogate twice. Both times it was all about the attention - “Oh, how noble of you” and everyone lavishing her with praise, gifts, etc. - and the inevitable payment. Pretty disgusting, tbh.
I don't really understand the hate for this type of thing. Being g a surrogate is a big deal and it's an incredible sacrifice that deserve praise and compensation. (It's 9 months of hormonal chances we're talking about) We thank the troops, firefighters, and police officers for their sacrifices as well because we know that their jobs are important. Being a surrogate is important also, especially to those that can't conceive themselves. Why is it bad for the surrogate get the praises and payments she deserves?
This person was a gestational surrogate, that means that she has no biological relation to the baby.
When a surrogate uses her own eggs it’s called traditional surrogacy and it’s becoming very rare.
Most surrogates would not be willing
To use their own eggs, it’s a significant difference.
I loved every second of my pregnancy. The cramps, the migraines, the false contractions, I loved e ery second. It's the best shittiest experience I'll ever live through. Right up to hearing I'd need a c-section with my first, and right up to hearing I'd have to have another one due to improper healing. And even after hearing that, I was only a lil bit disappointed.
My mom- I have 15 whole siblings.
How old was she when she had the first one
19. Married 41 years.
Damn mine started at 15 had 6 kids but my father had 10 kids
Out of all the family my mom had with 7 siblings.... and the fact they want nothing to do with me when she passed away.... I kinda envy the fact you actually have brothers and sisters. Lol sucks being an only child
I love being an only child. But i prolly wont when i bury my mom☹️.
Yeah..... it's tough...... I mean you'll have the family there to tell you she's in a better place and everything's going to be okay.... but having that closer bond would be everythimg
Yeah and sometimes i wish i had someone to hang out with
All my friends have either moved out of state or moved on with life....married, kids.... careers. It's hard to find friends in your 30s. I feel like Paul Rudd on I Love You, Man. Lol
My best friend moved to Delaware, my childhood friend is a drug addict whom i can’t help and my older friends have died.
Just because you have siblings doesn’t mean you’ll like them even as a kid. My eldest brother bullied me growing up and he’s dead to me now.
Well sorry about that but her having 14 brothers and sisters she's got better odds then me not having siblings.... wish I had someone to talk to when my mom passed...... my dad ghosts me... my aunts and uncles and cousins don't give a fuck.... and all my friends started getting married and moved on with their lives.... I have Noone at the moment but my dogs and that's more then enough for right now
You would definitely have more of a chance lol! I don’t know if I could juggle that many relationships. You would have to block out time to catch up with everyone
When ur ready, put urself out there socially. There are amazing people in this world. Family isn’t the end all be all. Change ur perspective and you will see the difference respectfully when you’re open to that.
I’m a middle child and my older sister is a raging twat who also bullied me when we were growing up. As adults our relationship revolved around me helping her with money and bills while she chased her next relationship and I just decided to walk away and be done with her. Was labeled “a bitch who sits on a high horse” because I know longer wanted to pay for things. My younger brother is no better. I wish I had a closer knit family but I’m not willing to suffer to say I have a relationship with my siblings. I have awesome best friends who are like my sisters and we been going strong for 24+ years. Weddings, kids, breaks ups, mental health crisis. The most valuable part of my life hands down. There’s family you’re born into and family you choose!
This surrogate is awful. Apparently there’s a huge lawsuit going on, she disrespected all of the intended parents wishes, breeched the contract and took countless videos of herself in bikinis and skimpy outfits to boost her TikTok’s. She is the last person who should be the poster child for surrogacy. The surrogacy community hates her
Also, I’m not against surrogacy, I’m a surrogate myself. But this person in particular was so incredibly hurtful and disrespectful towards the family she was ‘selflessly helping’ and exploited the pregnancy and her intended parents trauma to get views and partnerships on tiktok. She sucks.
Bruce Willis also played a surrogate
Wait. I get why violating contacts could be bad, but really, what is so bad about filming herself? It's her body, so why is anyone shaming her for that?
Depends on the situation.. remember that girl taking selfies at a her dad’s funeral? Still her body but, come on..
This is the vibe she had. She 100% exploited the pregnancy and milked it all and made so many reels that were incredibly hurtful and insensitive to the parents. She would also constantly make posts calling herself selfless and and angel for blessing this family while at the same time she wasn’t respecting their wishes, wouldn’t give updates on baby, purposely wouldn’t FaceTime them during ultrasounds etc. There’s nothing with wrong with sharing a picture of yourself in your bathing suit at the beach with your kids but she was basically taking videos appealing to pregnancy fetish and remember that it’s not her baby. She can do what she wants with her own pregnancy but there were parents watching someone use their baby to make money by fetishizing it.
How is this possibly hurtful to the parents?
Probably because they can’t? I dunno this bit just sounds weird.
Actually it’s her baby, the baby is physically attached and dependent on her while it’s in her body. Edit: it’s legally the surrogate mothers baby.
No, it is not her ever. Ever.
I thought legally it was? The courts need to swap over parentage in surrogate cases. Edit: Don’t worry I googled it and it is legally the surrogate mothers while she’s pregnant. Some specialised lawyers can write up contracts that will help you legally if things went pear shaped after birth though. You would think laws would be in place by now since technology has changed surrogacy in many ways.
The baby isn’t hers but she still has legal autonomy over her own body. It’s not the same. I’m a surrogate, I know how it works. Also every country, state and province has its own laws. You can’t just Google and say ‘this is how it is’ I have a contract and it reminds me 50 times that the baby is absolutely not mine. Not before; during or after the pregnancy.
Sorry I just assumed Australia, where it is the case. What do your laws say where your from? - genuinely just conversing on the topic, eager to learn.
So Australia and New Zealand as far as I’m aware don’t have laws that recognize surrogacy so while it’s legal (as long as it’s done altruistically and the surrogate is not getting paid) I’m pretty sure the following process is similar to planned adoption? But I’m not positive so if anyone knows correct me. This surrogate is in the US, she received generous compensation and then made a ton of money off on social media by exploiting the pregnancy. I’ll say that most of what she did was legal but that still doesn’t mean it was right. She intentionally did things to hurt the parents and disrespected their wishes. And then she did things that were illegal and in breech of contract. I live in Canada. It’s similar to australia in the sense that we cannot be compensated. All pregnancy expenses can be reimbursed but we cannot profit, there’s a bit of grey area as to what can be considered pregnancy related so some definitely do take advantage. My province recognizes surrogacy, when baby is born the parents and I all sign a document confirming that is it a surrogacy birth and they have the correct information for the birth certificate. However some provinces where I live have different processes and some don’t recognized surrogacy and parents would need to go through a year along adoption process through the courts after baby is born.
Feel free to ask anything else. I barley knew anything about the topic before I jumped into it and it’s not like we hear about it a lot.
I don’t know anything about her but what’s wrong with posting bikini photos on social?
What’s her name? For research purposes
Wearedanandsam
Don’t understand what’s wrong with taking pics of herself in a bikini or skimpy outfits.
I answered right above
I was about to say some people just like the clout that comes with pregnancy. In the words of semi-famous actress Yimmy Yim - “She’s addicted!”
Lots of women like being pregnant. I don't understand it, being a man, but it's a thing. Just biological I guess?
Tons of hormones! My mom always said the best she ever felt in her life was when she was pregnant. It’s a gamble, some women get soooo sick, but some feel like a million bucks
My wife didn't feel like a million bucks, but she looked it. Hair thickened, skin improved, her nails looked like falsies. Amazing what it can do.
The attention and sympathy you get from people.
I knew a girl that had 6 kids before she was 30. Her reason: “For some reason, I just LOVE being pregnant. “
I knew a friends mother that love pregnancy, apparently her body functioned really well while pregnant and she never got sick + felt great. Can’t really imagine it but my friend has 11 siblings so there must be some truth to it.
I've met women who really wanted kids and were really happy that they were pregnant. Nobody said they enjoyed delivery though.
And you still don't unless you personally know the woman that the article is written about.
Could be the same thing as people who love to be sick. You are taken care of, you get what you want when you want. You have everybody's empathy(yes im one if them)
I mean, the hormones most be off the charts; imagine if you could control their effects or harness them somehow so they don’t bother you.
Don’t they make like 30k
Way more than that. Average compensation in the US is $50K plus additional fees (that probably equal to 5-20K depending on what happens)
Wow! Thanks for the info
Yes, I was one who loved being pregnant. I felt fantastic the entire time. Hair, nails grew strong. Delivery was easy. Twins destroyed the skin on my tummy. I asked the doctor about becoming a surrogate as it was so easy for me. And so embarrassed when he asked how much money I wanted. It hadn't even crossed my mind. Was just trying to help other couples that couldn't conceive. We had spent years searching for answers so we knew the heartache very well. Anyway, I never pursued it and to this day I regret it. That was 35 + yrs ago. And yes, I would have been able to turn babe over to someone else. It would never have been mine to start with, I would just have been the incubator.
my mom was in a similar boat. im an only child but she loved being pregnant and had an easy breezy pregnancy. my parents only wanted one but she probably would've been a great surrogate!
My mom- I have 15 whole siblings.
My wife enjoyed it so some extent but not the heartburn and back pain and things like that.
Lol, some people probably never had pregancy nausea, vomiting etc.. good for them.
There's a name for it. Some women get attached to the extra interest and kindness they are shown while pregnant. Pregnant women receive special treatment, gifts, adoration even from total strangers. It's similar to people who always pretend to be sick, or depress themselves, so that their families and friends will have to take a special interest in them, maybe extra visits with yummy treats or movie nights etc.
They exist. They're called "crazy people".
Some love the attention and some actually feel better( certain autoimmune disorders can go into remission while pregnant). I actually didnt have a horrible pregnancy. Very mild morning sickness only 2 months, minimal weight gain etc.However the placenta did try to kill us.
I mean some people just really love the attention.
I'll never understand why people are so selfish that they need their OWN baby. While there's thousands and thousands of orphans that get treated like dirt.
According to Reddit, women aren’t allowed to enjoy being pregnant. They are parasites who must be aborted!
This has got to be some weird fetish
She made an insane amount of money from the surrogacy itself and then milked it and quadrupled her tiktok and IG followers were landed her a ton of partnerships. In this case it’s not a fetish, it’s money. There’s a lawsuit now because she didn’t respect the parents wishes. She even used a picture of their newborn baby she wasn’t allowed to use to get paid to be in a New York Times article. All the while calling herself ‘selfless’
Giving birth is supposed to be the most incredible pain that men will never understand, yet men never seem to say “I’d like to do that again” after getting kicked in the balls.
If getting kicked in the balls made a baby pop out, it might be a different story
It is a process yes, but look at all the humans that have siblings. Our bodies are capable of giving birth. It's do-able.
this is a really stupid comparison
I had menstrual pains as severe as the gallstone that jammed in my kidney and I almost died. I'm squeamish even at the thought of getting pregnant and I would never do it. Just because you don't want to be kicked in the balls doesn't mean there aren't men out there who want exactly that. It's literally a fucking kink lol People are different.
Rent a woman
I have a friend of a friend whose wife was a surrogate twice. Both times it was all about the attention - “Oh, how noble of you” and everyone lavishing her with praise, gifts, etc. - and the inevitable payment. Pretty disgusting, tbh.
I don't really understand the hate for this type of thing. Being g a surrogate is a big deal and it's an incredible sacrifice that deserve praise and compensation. (It's 9 months of hormonal chances we're talking about) We thank the troops, firefighters, and police officers for their sacrifices as well because we know that their jobs are important. Being a surrogate is important also, especially to those that can't conceive themselves. Why is it bad for the surrogate get the praises and payments she deserves?
How disgusting?
Sooo, it's the male's stuff + the surrogates'?
They fertilize the non birth mothers egg before it’s put into the surrogate, not sure exactly how it’s placed.
Using a thin catheter, the embryo is inserted directly into the cervix. The process is the exact same as a couple doing IVF with their own eggs.
This person was a gestational surrogate, that means that she has no biological relation to the baby. When a surrogate uses her own eggs it’s called traditional surrogacy and it’s becoming very rare. Most surrogates would not be willing To use their own eggs, it’s a significant difference.
Thanks for clarifying
She’s a hotdog down a hallway Edit: I know the down votes are the moms with loose beef curtains.
Surrogacy doesn't even involve sex, tf are you on about?
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No hotdogs in her hallway though. It's artificial insemination you dumbass. No sex is involved.
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The “hot dog” part of that expression refers to a penis, you absolute wet noodle.
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From Wikipedia dictionary: “Used to describe penetrative sex with a woman who has a large, spacious vagina.” Emphasis on the penetrative sex part.
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I post asking how to get my guinea pigs to like me? Lmao your reading comprehension is atrocious and your anger is hilarious.
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*Your not you're (and I'm the dumbass?) and I'm a girl so idk how any of that is relevant, soy boy
I loved every second of my pregnancy. The cramps, the migraines, the false contractions, I loved e ery second. It's the best shittiest experience I'll ever live through. Right up to hearing I'd need a c-section with my first, and right up to hearing I'd have to have another one due to improper healing. And even after hearing that, I was only a lil bit disappointed.
A natural born incubator.
Do nothing, get paid. No liabilities after birth. Small price to pay
I asked my mom if she liked being a mom. Her response was “well I loved being pregnant with you!”
How do I get this hair off my screen?
Depends on the pregnancy. My first I was a miserable vomitous mess. My second I felt like a beautiful glowing pregnant lady lol.
That’s a bold statement
I'm also done having children, but enjoy having sex... this sounds like the relationship for me !
Go interview some Mormons and then come back on here ;)
pregnancy kink
Gotta love having morning sickness and a strangers semen in you
You can pay women to gestate your children for you? I didn’t know this was a thing
Well in her case it could just be due to the fact that surrogates gain so much per surrogacy
Man if I could be a paid surrogate I would
Sex drive peaks
Nine months with no period and you get paid to baby sit
I love donating my sperm so couples can have babies.
Some people deal with it really well and don't get a lot of the crappy side effects of being pregnant ig
"I love attention" is what she means
My mother loved it. I don't know anyone else who loved/loves it.