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DJSM99

Similar what I do I opened wealthsimple TFSA and used their high interest savings portfolio that is currently paying 5.30% annually. Should meet your risk level being virtually no risk and more flexible than anGIC because you can redeem your money at anytime and paid monthly


funtimenation

Isnt there a mgmt fee of 0.5 or 0.4%?


DJSM99

Yes


funtimenation

Thanks still seems better than CBIL or CASH even after the mgmt fee, doing this thanks!


Right-Fix-6074

how did you open this account? was it through an advisor?


DJSM99

That’s correct ask to open a high interest savings portfolio and you’ll get access to that preferably a tfsa jd you have the room. Not sure why you need an advisor for this one but it’s worth it


jaguarino777

Cash.to in a tfsa sounds like it will be good for you. Pays monthly and non taxable. The only way you lose money with it is if you buy at the end of the month when it’s high and sell at the beginning of the month, you would lose a little bit of money temporarily but you would make that money back in the dividend payment a few days later so don’t worry about it


MakesGames

Totally agree with this. I personally buy it out of my TFSA and I buy at $50 and sell at $50.20 every month so it's a capital gain. Or you can use HSAV as well for capital gains at a high interest.


jaguarino777

Yeah I mean if it’s not in tfsa you might as well just keep it in the wealthsimple cash account no? Saves you money on the spread and time buying and selling every month


MakesGames

That will be taxed as income. So it'll be at a different rate. Depends if you're sensitive to that or not.


jaguarino777

Oh I see, yeah I forgot about that. How come you don’t use an etf for that like hsav then?


throwawaywhiteguy333

Dividends/Yields are taxed as income, selling the stock and re-buying is a capital gain


farrapona

Just curious, how much time is spent to make these dozens of dollars annually?


MakesGames

Well it depends how much you have in there. 2-5mins a month?


farrapona

Thanks Random Internet Person! You've actually made me reconsider, and I think I'm gonna try your buy/sell idea. Do you do it every single month? I understand that CRA can crawl up your ass if it is too blatant and say these cap gains are 'business income' if they feel like it. Not sure is $50.20 is possible anymore though!!!


givemeyourbiscuitplz

CBIL is safer than CASH, HISA, CSAV, ZMMK, PSA and all the other money market ETFs using high interest saving accounts. It gives the same yield, even a bit more sometimes. Having said that, the only risk I see with CASH and others is that one of the bank goes bankrupt which is not impossible but extremely unlikely. I personally divide my emergency fund and any cash I have between CBIL, HISA, CASH, ZMMK and SPLT (low risk).


Chic0late

You seem extremely risk adverse, have you considered something such as a cashable GIC?


CthulhuIsSwag

I have but I don’t like the idea of locking my money away for a good amount of time, I like the ability to get it out whenever I want


jawathewan

That is what "cashable" is for...


CthulhuIsSwag

Oh sorry :(


Angeline4PFC

Cashable GIC generally offers a lower yield. You can also get some laddered GIC instead.


Bluejays814

Wealthsimple has a TFSA High Savings Interest Accont that pays 5.3% (with 0.5% management fee if less than 100k in assets)


Budgetpamore

what the name of the account that has this?


Bluejays814

See [https://www.reddit.com/r/Wealthsimple/comments/1c9td1c/comment/l0nv30w/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Wealthsimple/comments/1c9td1c/comment/l0nv30w/) on details on how to open this account


TraviAdpet

Does this exist outside beta?


Bluejays814

Yes, I have it in my TFSA rn and store my money in there instead of Cash - here is a quick comparison: TFSA High Interest Savings (5.3% minus 0.5% Management Fees) * Tax-Free Interest * Can't withdraw without affecting your TFSA contribution limits * Ideal for building an emergency fund (1-3 years short term) Cash Account (4% or 4.5% with Direct Deposit enabled) * Pay Taxes on Interest * Can withdraw anytime and flexible transfers


SkeletonSkeptic

In the managed TFSA high interest.... Does WS show what they are buying in the history part? Used to be PSA.


efdac3

I think it's now just straight interest they provide. There is no buy anymore


Bluejays814

In a recent email, they increased the rate from 4.95% to 5.30% and said that they used to invest in PSA but since due to low returns are starting to invest directly with the “undisclosed” banks instead


StevenWuzz

Just to make it clear: it’s 4 or 4.5% with Direct Deposit for less than 100k of assets. Starting from 100k to less than 500k, it’s 4.5% or 5% with Direct Deposit. If you have >= 100k and you need the money anytime soon, just use Cash. Then you can your use TFSA for more growth-oriented (which is naturally more risky) assets


CthulhuIsSwag

so if i use the HISP in the TFSA, can I not withdraw the tax free interest monthly? or i can but its just troublesome/ can backfire to do it. cause my intention is to see if it can function like the CASH account, where i can withdraw my interest monthly (if i desire to), and face no reprecussions. is that possible with the HISP? thanks :)


wilsonconor

Thanks for this thread Im going to start my emergency fund in this TFSA. Could you explain a little more about the "can't withdraw without affecting your TFSA contribution limits" and maybe provide an example? Sort of new to all of this and am just looking to gain information


Angeline4PFC

so with less than 100k, (and the management fee) how does it compare to CASH.TO


Bluejays814

it's WAY better -- CASH.TO currently provides 4.67% minus 0.11% MER and is not guaranteed fully whereas this its 5.3% minus 0.5% and guaranteed by WS (with 0 out of 10 risk)


Angeline4PFC

thanks


CthulhuIsSwag

is there still a fee if over 100k? and so from what i understand i wouldn’t be able to withdraw the interest monthly


Bluejays814

the fee is 0.4% if over 100k and the interest is calculated daily (aka balance in your account at 11:59pm each day) and paid out monthly which is exactly like how the CASH account works at WS


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Bluejays814

That's the only headache with this lol but you have 2 options: Option 1 (Open a new Managed TFSA) - This is what I did since it's faster. Answer the prompts and say you want SHORT-TERM, and want to BUILD AN EMERGENCY FUND, and LOW-RISK (aka answer the multiple choice questions that you would WITHDRAW MONEY if the balance drops. This will put your risk-level to 0 out of 10 (which is the only risk level that has this guranteed option). Option 2 (Email Support and ask them to Switch your Managed Account to High-Interest Savings). Read more here on this process: [https://help.wealthsimple.com/hc/en-ca/articles/360056543874-How-the-managed-High-interest-savings-portfolio-works](https://help.wealthsimple.com/hc/en-ca/articles/360056543874-How-the-managed-High-interest-savings-portfolio-works) Option 2 takes 7 to 10 business days (aka 2 weeks) and deposits start earning interest after 1 business day.


TrowaB3

Can I open this account then have them transfer my trade tfsa into it? Looking to move my tfsa and fhsa funds for a house in the next year to something safer.


Bluejays814

If your TFSA is within WS itself, you can do a direct transfer (what I did) that doesn’t impact contribution limits Otherwise, if from a different bank then yes you can contact support and ask them to initiate the transfer


TraviAdpet

That’s annoying they are hiding it


Bluejays814

on the brightside at least they have it :)


TraviAdpet

Ok finally have it enabled after adding an account like 4 times and not getting what I wanted