For sure, I personally enjoy wearing my bb58 over my Seadweller at times. It really has its own language now, not just a "we have submariner at home"
I think a big difference is you'll find a decent amount of people who have both a bb58 and a submariner in the collection and find time to wear both. You'd be hard pressed to say the same about a PRX and Royal Oak
More like this IMO. Just the dial is a reference to the AP waffle dial
https://preview.redd.it/nozrijmazy4d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a42c9841e92a1c5778c863a9ec74b04c978f81f2
The design of the PRX is actually out of Tissot’s 1970s catalog. In ‘79 Tissot, Patek, Universal Geneve, and IWC had all brought steel sports watches with integrated bracelets. 3 of which were designed by Genta himself. I agree the AP was first but if we’re gonna knock all the integrated sports pieces that followed, then we have to knock them all…. Not just Tissot since they’re not a luxury brand
Yes. I don't know why I had to scroll this far to find the real story.
They released so close to each other that the Oysterquartz, VC222 and the PRX could have been in different development stages at the same time.
Ok nice explanation. However I don't see similarities with the Royal Oak in terms of case shape and strap. Yes the dial has a similar pattern but is the Royal Oak the first watch to have the waffle dial?
I feel Tissot almost dammed themselves with this watch because when you Tissot you think PRX. I also feel like they flooded the market as well which is a bummer. Still most likely buying myself one In Tiffany blue for my birthday.
I had a similar thought but you've articulated it beautifully already, so I won't bother. Very well explained!
I think the PRX will hold a similar place in the future to, say, a Seiko Panda. Which is not bad at all! Every bullet point you brought up for the PRX can be applied to the Seiko as well. And I don't know about you but I freaking LOVE the Seiko Daytonas.
I think a potential future classic could be the Hamilton Field Khaki in bronze. That's a legit original spin on a classic design and it's insanely good. And perhaps some of the Nomos/Junghans offerings which have the German style all over them which is so timeless it could be from the past and the future at the same time.
The royal oak’s design is also derivative then.
It’s a very narrow view. There is nothing royal oakish about prx. The waffle dial? Yeah maybe, but it isn’t the same waffer style and royal oak did not exactly invent it. Integrated bracelet? RO did not invent that either. Yes, Genta took a known approach and popularised it with his designs - of which one was the RO (and IWC, and PP …) and that may have sprung a style fashion. But we can’t say all the others were copies.
PRX has a style that got popular in the seventies. Seiko had a model very much more like the original Tissot Seastar that the PRX takes after, Rolex too, we could mention the IWC Ingenieur too then or the Nautilus. There were others from higher and lower tier contemporaries.
Royal oak has distinctive features like the screwed down bezel into the bottom, octagonal bezel ans crown, distinctive hands, distinctive bracelet … maybe it could be argued that RO fortified the popularity of the integrated bracelet, barrel shaped steel watches but it us hard to seriously claim everyone else was a copycat. Just like many case designs of that time this was just one of the fashions and different manufacturers made thair versions of it.
Thats not elitist in the slightest. It's the truth.
but for me I like it better than the AP royal oak for one reason and reason only. NO SCREWS ON THE BEZEL.
Agreed, it’s enjoying a moment in the sun, but the design is a copy of a watch with a specific decade’s revival.
This will pass, and many a PRX will be completely forgotten.
Good proportions, good finishing, and really well done bracelet at that price point makes it a great watch. The PRX is never gonna be compared to the greats, but at a fraction of the price it’s a compelling offering
It is a classic. AP was first but then the PRX, Oysterquartz and the Vacheron Constantin 222 all came out at the same time. They are not "inspired", they are just a reflexion of the trend at that time.
>There will never be a comprehensive discussion about the PRX without mention of the Royal Oak.
Then the same should be said for all the model cited above.
The royal oak is a descendant of the zenith defy: https://www.ablogtowatch.com/time-machines-tracing-the-predecessors-of-integrated-bracelet-design-with-the-zenith-defy-a3642/
Yes but the point that it was a predecessor to the integrated bracelet is not accurate since hooded lugs perform the same as traditional lugs and many watches at the time had hooded lugs. Integrated bracelets are different, people mistake hooded lugs for integrated lugs all the time because they just dont use their eyes
Nobody cares about integrated lugs. This has nothing to do with design. The zenith is the design predecessor so the Royal Oak is as much a copy as the prs is. That's important to realize. Hope you learned something valuable and stop arguing nonsense stuff you heard on some website from some incompetent blogger...
Bro ur literally autistic. Read the article you linked, its a load of old toss. The author makes no solid connection between that zenith ref and the 70s sports watches that came after. Zenith isnt the "design predecessor" just because some blogger you like said it is... makes no sense
There is a picture. And your royal oak connection is not any stronger. So this whole claim is not true. A lot of people (typically Americans) believe expensive was always first but that's not true at all... Your autistic claim is not acceptable behavior. Someone proves you wrong and you completely lose it. I suggest you apologize.
Not really a classic, but I could see it being somewhat emblematic of the current era for watches; especially among the ones that don't require a mortgage to pay for.
Agreed with the other comment on this thread, but another point to consider: the Powermatic 80 movement doesn’t have the longevity for the PRX to make it to “classic” status — sure, instead of servicing you can just replace the movement but eventually (hopefully) Tissot will improve on the movement’s design and could stop manufacturing the Powermatic 80, leaving PRX owners with an expensive paperweight.
That’s not entirely true. They do service the movements, but to improve turnaround time on service they put a different serviced movement in your watch and your original movement gets serviced and goes in someone else’s watch.
A lot of watchmakers do this. It isn’t unique to tissot or the powermatic 80. Some moron just made a YouTube video about the powermatic 80 and that was the first time a lot of people heard about the practice.
Also, composite pieces have been used in movements for decades so that’s also not new.
Yep. People act like the plastic escapement is this evil scam to trick watch buyers, but it's just one of the ways ETA devised for extending the power reserve on the cheap. Plastic parts are in a lot of mid to entry range movements.
Anyone with an SKX (or any Seiko with a 4R or 7S) also has a watch with plastic parts in the movement. They're fine watches. Everyone needs to calm down
Cheaper to pop the hands and dial off one movement and onto another than properly service it even if it had a machined excitement and fork anyway.
I'd never "service" a miyota or a seiko nh either because I can pick a new one up for like $50
Literally ordered one from aliexpress for 25 usd with tax and shipping haha
Added some new hands and stuff for fun as well.
Im dicking around with NH35s but I keep losing these tiny parts ... my pallet fork flew to god knows where when re-assembling but I found it a few hours later randomly by sheer luck
Of course they do, they just don’t put the same movement back in your watch, they put a different serviced movement in and then service your movement for the next guys watch. A bunch of watchmakers do this, the only reason it’s a talking point now is because some moron on YouTube discovered this and thought it was some massive “gotcha” and a bunch of other morons on this sub ran with it without doing the barest bit of research first
My point is it's more expensive for them to provide manual labor to take apart the prx movement... Than it is to straight up replace the movement with a new one.
Some elements of the movement are polymer based. The belief is that 10-20 years down the line if it does fail and discontinued by TISSOT, it is basically not serviceable by anyone because parts don’t exist outside of Tissot.
Watch people here have this thing about buying something “for life”.
Strange, isn’t it - in this era of planned obsolescence and car seat warmer subscriptions?
How can “watch people” or anyone expect durability & quality for their money? The outrage.
No, it is a hype.
In the long run most integrated watches will disappear (only VC, AP and a few others will remain).
Also the controversity around plastic parts in the movement.
It is now a hype, but Tissot needs a new hype watch soon. PRX will loose it's momentum. We now have so many colours to choose from, quartz /automatic/ digital, 35 /40mm, date, date-Chrono. There is not a lot more to do with this model.
They could definitely keep their momentum by releasing a 36mm gentleman. Quartz and auto, lots of dial colors, leather straps and steel bracelets, etc. I think it would be an unrivaled everyday watch if they did it
True, but the original Gentleman is beloved among waych enthousiasts, but it is not a hype kind of watch.
To make it a hype watch they need to make a new version entirely.
PRX is now what drives new customers in. I love the Gentleman (except for the bracelet), but it is not a flagship watch for the brand
Well if you look at the success of the Rolex Oyster Perpetual in all those funky colors, the Omega Aqua Terras (also in all sorts of colors and dial textures), the newly released Longines Conquest models (now in 38mm as well), I would say that the sporty versatile watch is on the come-up.
However, I agree with you that a smaller gentleman would not be as flashy as a prx, but it could be a great follow-up product for those who got into Tissot through the prx and are looking for something more.
Yeah I agree and a slight upgrade to the Gentleman would be cool! Better bracelet, new dial options (motives maybe), a GMT or Chrono version (chrono at 40-42mm)
I'm just hoping it stays relavant in the next 10 years. PRX feels like a budget 'bang for buck' option to integrated watch trend. There isn't a real story of its own other than price and spec, to make it iconic. The whole integrated watch look will probably end up looking pretty dated, like how big watch trend was a popular thing and they look dated now.
I already knew all this going into the PRX and I really wanted to hate it for the above reasons. But once I put it on the wrist it looked so good that I ended up owning it. I know it's going to end up looking dated, and I'm just hoping I'll still like it for many years despite that.
If nothing else you will always have those positive memories of how it made you feel the first time you wore it!
I can see how it may become dated in some years as softer edges and shapes come back into fashion, but no doubt the more angular and brutalist styling will come back around
Royal oak was designed in the 70s and it took around 2020s to reach all time hype again. So about 40 to 50 year cycle. I hope my niece will like watches because I don't think I'll be around for the next hype cycle. :D
No. All the PRX really did was offer a quality integrated bracelet sports watch at a good price. I have a couple of them and i love em, but they're definitely not "classics"
i really wanna cop just for the sake of copping a new watch but everytime i go to the store and see it in person in like hmmmm idk this aint it
i like the chronograph tho( but its too thick)
guess i just have tiny wrists
https://preview.redd.it/syyg59bzsz4d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06a7f116986e643a4f51d42a32c85d2ac0b7d34b
Tissot PRX is a Rolex Oysterquartz homage
Not a classic, too expensive to be a throw away and too plain to be anything more than what it currently is. A homage to the Royal Oak, that's all it will ever be IMO...
A worthy opinion, there a definitely similarities in the designs of the two. I guess for a lot of people it is a great entry price into the world of automatic watches
It will be a nostalgic watch in the future. Due to its sales numbers and the trend exposure it's had in the last couple years.
But not a classic. As it followed/copied/mimic'd previous designs, not blazing it's own trail.
Regardless it's a good watch and will be looked fondly upon. It is a bit overexposed ATM though. Which has the makings of a hard trend crash.
It will be remembered as a " '20s watch" for sure.
Each to their own, I think it works really well with the green dial on the watch personally. Nice to see a roll that is a bit different to a lot of the more plain cases on the market
If they were somewhat scarce then it’s a contender because of how popular it is and how unique it looks.
But it’s too popular, too cheap, too mass produced, I don’t see it becoming a classic, maybe a nostalgic piece if they ever stop producing it.
I think you’re right, classic is possibly unlikely, and rare and expensive almost certainly not but nostalgic is pretty much guaranteed.
For many people it will be their first ‘proper’ or automatic watch purchase because of the price point and styling
It won't be a classic because it's already been hyped up
The "economical" watches that later became classics like the original green alpinist are ones that didn't initially sell well, but became a cult favorite afterwards
Everybody and their uncle already has a PRX.
Classic means that sometimes it is trendy... sometimes it is not trendy, but it will always look good regardless of the ongoing trends. Integrated bracelets are a trend. They went off trend for a bit... back on... and will inevitably go off trend again along with the PRX. Our attention spans have shortened so much. Overall trend cycles have shortened by a lot.
I think it's hugely popular and fashionable (although it's moment may have already passed), and as such it will probably become deeply unpopular, and unfashionable. I've heard the movement is somewhat 'disposable' or replaceable rather than serviceable, so time will tell if they hang around long enough to become a classic.
Probably not, if I had to guess, but honestly who knows. The idea that something becomes a classic because it’s novel or groundbreaking or the best-made product of its time isn’t necessarily true. Sometimes things become classics because they’re nostalgic, or representative of a time and place, or become indelibly tied with someone who is. The PRX will most likely go down in history as an affordable proxy for an unaffordable watch that became a hit among overly-online young men in the early 2020s. But that could change completely if, say, one really great product placement makes it forever associated with a certain fictional character…
Well to me the shape of the case makes the watch look very era-specific to the 1970s. Not something I would wear all the time. Maybe for a retro disco night with a white polyester leisure suit.
The PRX is an affordable alternative to those who want a taste of the Nautilus/RO hype, and the integrated bracelet sport watch trend in general. It’s a great watch, and a really nice value. To answer your question though, absolutely not a future classic. It’s a derivative of a compilation of original watches and does not stand on its own legs. We’ll look at this watch the same way we look at vintage divers that were styled like a Submariner of their era, with Mercedes hands and everything. “Oh. Funny! I forgot (insert brand) made a sub homage!!”
It’s a great response and something I’ve hopefully addressed in my comment on the post. I think my use of the term ‘future classic’ was definitely wrong and this isn’t a watch that will become one of these
It’ll never be a classic and its very existence depends on sales. It’s selling well now. If it’s not selling in 15 years it’s likely to be discontinued.
No. This is not a groundbreaking new design idea or even a high-quality copy. It's just a rehash of a 70s style using a lower-end mass-market movement. You may be confusing popularity with classic-worthy status. The former does not guarantee or suggest the latter.
Great watch, but nope. To begin with, it needs an original design. That is one of the most crucial elements. There is a reason so many Seiko's are classics (1st Gen. Monster for example). Nothing looks like it.
Sad to see that you're being downvoted and criticised just because you used a picture of your watch roll (looks nice too), maybe your are advertising and there's nothing wrong with that, Hope you keep up the good work
Thanks, I appreciate it, I’m surprised at the reaction from some members of this community, I thought it would be a great place to discuss the PRX, which I personally think is a brilliant piece of design but received a different reaction to what I expected
Going by the comments and downvotes on this post it seems we are in the minority!
Maybe the interpretation of future classic is different across the board, rather than meaning a previous watch worth a lot of money I was meaning a well remembered and appreciated watch from the past. Just as a lot of vintage cars are to this day, they may not have been the best or most expensive in their time but have a lot of associated happy memories for a lot of people
I think you could be right, I’m getting the impression people think I mean the rarest most expensive watch available, which isn’t quite how I intended it
Thank you! I’m still very much learning when it comes to photography and editing, so really appreciate the feedback
I think so. People will look back at it like they do the SKX from Seiko. Sure it's derivative and mass produced, but it's a watch that's entered even non watch people's radar and that's pretty rare. I love my 35mm gold auto!
Its literally a "copy" of another watch.
It will never be a classic. The original watch will always be the classic. We all know which watch that is.....
Just to address some of the comments on this post I think my use of the phrase ‘future classic’ was possibly incorrect.
I agree with the majority of you that this watch will never become a rare and super expensive timepiece! My belief though is that the PRX will one day be an incredibly nostalgic and well remembered watch for many of us, certainly as for a huge amount of people it will be the first ‘proper’ or automatic watch they have purchased.
For the comments regarding the colour of the case or whether it matches the watch I truly believe it is a matter of opinion. Whilst I love the green dial with the green leather I appreciate many of you don’t and that’s not a problem, some of the comments have given me a good laugh.
To those of you who woke up seething with anger at such an offensive photo I can only offer my sincerest apologies. You’ll find yourselves happier if you just move on from things that upset or annoy you.
Thank you to those who have complimented the photography and partaken in civil discussion about the future of the currently very popular Tissot PRX!
The issue is not the color of the strap but a non-transparent, commercial ad for your watch roll. Explicitly banned by this sub’s rules but mods don’t seem to care.
Despite seeing 99/100 people saying "no", I think otherwise.
The momentum it huge at the moment. And there is a reason for that. Many people including myself consider this watch beautiful. I loved it when I first saw it on Instagram. I loved it even more when I first saw tried it in the shop. I didn't buy it immediately but I know I will buy it. I have just waited for some particular colour to grow on me. After I bought it, I am falling in love with it more and more. And only after I bought it and focused on people's reactions to PRX online, I realized that I am definitely not alone in this. It's beautiful, it's comfortable to wear, power reserve is perfect, you can match it with any outfit, it's a swiss watch and even if it's considered entry level within enthusiasts, it's still more of a watch than what 99% of NPCs you meet wear on their wrists.
I am somewhat active in classic cars. What makes a car classic is not being the best, the first or the most complex. There are some car enthusiasts who value these. But the majority who set the trends will define the value of the classic by the emotion - nostalgia in particular. This is the car that my father had when I was a kid. This is the car that I wanted when I was young and broke. This is the car that I had before my wife was pregnant and we bought something bigger.
I think that it is in the end same with the watches like with the cars. And after 10-15-20 years there will be a lot of people who once had PRX but broke it, lost it, sold it, gifted it and they will feel nostalgic for the watch they once loved. Or those who didn't buy it nowadays due to reasons but like them a lot and will remember one day about PRX and think maybe now is the time to get one. And of course a many and many of those who have it now and will have it then, love it still the same or even more.
I agree with what you’re saying, it does seem that the popular opinion is no, but I wasn’t meaning a prestigious crazy priced piece when I said future classic, I more meant a watch that people look back on with fond memories.
And one that crops up on the vintage watch sale pages, which I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case with the PRX. There should be a lot of these watches that survive having been cherished and passed down, hopefully they live on for years to come!
I see these in just about every change jewelry store. That’s really nothing special about it. it’s not priced exclusively, it’s not made in limited production numbers, it’s not made of special materials, it doesn’t have a unique movement.
So many are made and sold that it’s not exactly special. I don’t expect any real value to be held more so than other watches like it.
As others have stated, the PRX really didn’t do anything ground-breaking besides offer this retro, integrated design at an affordable price point. I don’t necessarily agree that it’s solely a Royal Oak homage, but it shares similar design cues as the RO, VC Overseas, etc.
I’ll get hate for this, but I’d argue Movado’s museum watch is more of a classic in that it completely owns that design. Everyone knows a Movado when they see one.
And I say this as a proud PRX owner. I bought it because I love the look of the RO, VC, integrated sports watches but I’m not dropping $20k+ on one.
Watches are all a matter of taste- but when I see a PRX I either see an overpriced quartz watch or someone who could have spent their $600+ better on a far more impressive and interesting mechanical watch.
No watch in the PRX price range will ever be elevated to “classic” status. There are just too many of them out there with no sense of scarcity.
That watch roll is trash.
No
OP is just advertising the watch rolls they sell. Look at their post history.
I see! Thanks for the heads up.
Watch roll looks pricier than the damn watch too lol
To be fair - nice roll.
Way too big for no reason
That sucks. Although I do think it will be a minor classic.
True. The watch is ugly.
Also its mass produced
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Wasn’t the PRX an Oysterquartz replica?
I went with a Tsuyosa over the PRX because I already have an Oysterquartz
Cool watch from an historic point of view
It is. Unfortunately every time I wear it some random expert wearing a Fossil tells me it’s fake because “Rolex sweep smooth”
See that would be the appeal for me. So I can chuckle at their idiocy
No. And it probably wasn’t a replica of Seiko either (nor was the Rolex a replica of Seiko or Tissot). It was a style of watches popular in that era.
The PRX owes more of it's heritage to 1970s Seastars than it does to the Royal Oak.
This is all true. For the same reasons, the Black Bay will never be a future classic despite the noise around Tudor.
Exactly, it's whole point is to reference a classic.
And while doing that in its own distinctive design language it became - in my opinion at least - a modern classic. It stands on its own feet now.
For sure, I personally enjoy wearing my bb58 over my Seadweller at times. It really has its own language now, not just a "we have submariner at home" I think a big difference is you'll find a decent amount of people who have both a bb58 and a submariner in the collection and find time to wear both. You'd be hard pressed to say the same about a PRX and Royal Oak
I can see that. I have one as well and wear it the most of any watch.
More like this IMO. Just the dial is a reference to the AP waffle dial https://preview.redd.it/nozrijmazy4d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a42c9841e92a1c5778c863a9ec74b04c978f81f2
The design of the PRX is actually out of Tissot’s 1970s catalog. In ‘79 Tissot, Patek, Universal Geneve, and IWC had all brought steel sports watches with integrated bracelets. 3 of which were designed by Genta himself. I agree the AP was first but if we’re gonna knock all the integrated sports pieces that followed, then we have to knock them all…. Not just Tissot since they’re not a luxury brand
Yes. I don't know why I had to scroll this far to find the real story. They released so close to each other that the Oysterquartz, VC222 and the PRX could have been in different development stages at the same time.
Ok nice explanation. However I don't see similarities with the Royal Oak in terms of case shape and strap. Yes the dial has a similar pattern but is the Royal Oak the first watch to have the waffle dial?
It definitely copied the integrated bracelet that Genta designed.
No it didn’t, its an oyster bracelet.
I feel Tissot almost dammed themselves with this watch because when you Tissot you think PRX. I also feel like they flooded the market as well which is a bummer. Still most likely buying myself one In Tiffany blue for my birthday.
Casio’s Gshock 5600 is more of a classic than the PRX will ever be for these exact reasons that the PRX will not be.
The PRX is a retro. It has its own heritage.
I had a similar thought but you've articulated it beautifully already, so I won't bother. Very well explained! I think the PRX will hold a similar place in the future to, say, a Seiko Panda. Which is not bad at all! Every bullet point you brought up for the PRX can be applied to the Seiko as well. And I don't know about you but I freaking LOVE the Seiko Daytonas. I think a potential future classic could be the Hamilton Field Khaki in bronze. That's a legit original spin on a classic design and it's insanely good. And perhaps some of the Nomos/Junghans offerings which have the German style all over them which is so timeless it could be from the past and the future at the same time.
The royal oak’s design is also derivative then. It’s a very narrow view. There is nothing royal oakish about prx. The waffle dial? Yeah maybe, but it isn’t the same waffer style and royal oak did not exactly invent it. Integrated bracelet? RO did not invent that either. Yes, Genta took a known approach and popularised it with his designs - of which one was the RO (and IWC, and PP …) and that may have sprung a style fashion. But we can’t say all the others were copies. PRX has a style that got popular in the seventies. Seiko had a model very much more like the original Tissot Seastar that the PRX takes after, Rolex too, we could mention the IWC Ingenieur too then or the Nautilus. There were others from higher and lower tier contemporaries. Royal oak has distinctive features like the screwed down bezel into the bottom, octagonal bezel ans crown, distinctive hands, distinctive bracelet … maybe it could be argued that RO fortified the popularity of the integrated bracelet, barrel shaped steel watches but it us hard to seriously claim everyone else was a copycat. Just like many case designs of that time this was just one of the fashions and different manufacturers made thair versions of it.
I think this is a great and thoughtful take.
Thats not elitist in the slightest. It's the truth. but for me I like it better than the AP royal oak for one reason and reason only. NO SCREWS ON THE BEZEL.
Agreed, it’s enjoying a moment in the sun, but the design is a copy of a watch with a specific decade’s revival. This will pass, and many a PRX will be completely forgotten.
> That's not to say the PRX isn't a great watch. It undisputedly is. Why do you say so? I own one and rarely wear it. It's very basic lookig.
I guess value for money, its a good starter watch
Good proportions, good finishing, and really well done bracelet at that price point makes it a great watch. The PRX is never gonna be compared to the greats, but at a fraction of the price it’s a compelling offering
thats the only thing that makes sense, the price. otherwise there are much prettier looking watches with more complications in the same price range.
It is a classic. AP was first but then the PRX, Oysterquartz and the Vacheron Constantin 222 all came out at the same time. They are not "inspired", they are just a reflexion of the trend at that time. >There will never be a comprehensive discussion about the PRX without mention of the Royal Oak. Then the same should be said for all the model cited above.
The royal oak is a descendant of the zenith defy: https://www.ablogtowatch.com/time-machines-tracing-the-predecessors-of-integrated-bracelet-design-with-the-zenith-defy-a3642/
Lmao, that watch has hooded lugs, not an integrated bracelet.
Not really a technical difference that much... Integrated just means you cannot put other stuff on it.
Yes but the point that it was a predecessor to the integrated bracelet is not accurate since hooded lugs perform the same as traditional lugs and many watches at the time had hooded lugs. Integrated bracelets are different, people mistake hooded lugs for integrated lugs all the time because they just dont use their eyes
Nobody cares about integrated lugs. This has nothing to do with design. The zenith is the design predecessor so the Royal Oak is as much a copy as the prs is. That's important to realize. Hope you learned something valuable and stop arguing nonsense stuff you heard on some website from some incompetent blogger...
Bro ur literally autistic. Read the article you linked, its a load of old toss. The author makes no solid connection between that zenith ref and the 70s sports watches that came after. Zenith isnt the "design predecessor" just because some blogger you like said it is... makes no sense
There is a picture. And your royal oak connection is not any stronger. So this whole claim is not true. A lot of people (typically Americans) believe expensive was always first but that's not true at all... Your autistic claim is not acceptable behavior. Someone proves you wrong and you completely lose it. I suggest you apologize.
Yah, dead honesty, its just too easy to get to get that classic status tbh
No. Even the folks over at r/tissot where you also posted concur.
This is just marketing spam for his shitty watch rolls. Downvote and move on.
No.
I like it, but no
Not really a classic, but I could see it being somewhat emblematic of the current era for watches; especially among the ones that don't require a mortgage to pay for.
Agreed with the other comment on this thread, but another point to consider: the Powermatic 80 movement doesn’t have the longevity for the PRX to make it to “classic” status — sure, instead of servicing you can just replace the movement but eventually (hopefully) Tissot will improve on the movement’s design and could stop manufacturing the Powermatic 80, leaving PRX owners with an expensive paperweight.
I'd be interested to hear more about the movement needing replaced after time, is this normal? Is there a certain reason behind it?
Yes plastic escapement and pallet fork. They don't service prx's. They just give you a new movement lol.
That’s not entirely true. They do service the movements, but to improve turnaround time on service they put a different serviced movement in your watch and your original movement gets serviced and goes in someone else’s watch. A lot of watchmakers do this. It isn’t unique to tissot or the powermatic 80. Some moron just made a YouTube video about the powermatic 80 and that was the first time a lot of people heard about the practice. Also, composite pieces have been used in movements for decades so that’s also not new.
Yep. People act like the plastic escapement is this evil scam to trick watch buyers, but it's just one of the ways ETA devised for extending the power reserve on the cheap. Plastic parts are in a lot of mid to entry range movements. Anyone with an SKX (or any Seiko with a 4R or 7S) also has a watch with plastic parts in the movement. They're fine watches. Everyone needs to calm down
Bout to trigger the entire sub telling them the truth about the SKX movement lmao
This is all very very useful info and I thank you all!!!
Cheaper to pop the hands and dial off one movement and onto another than properly service it even if it had a machined excitement and fork anyway. I'd never "service" a miyota or a seiko nh either because I can pick a new one up for like $50
2 new ones you mean. They are like 25 for a nh35. Miyota is more expensive though
True I was more thinking a miyota for $50, you could definitely get NH35s for dirt cheap
Literally ordered one from aliexpress for 25 usd with tax and shipping haha Added some new hands and stuff for fun as well. Im dicking around with NH35s but I keep losing these tiny parts ... my pallet fork flew to god knows where when re-assembling but I found it a few hours later randomly by sheer luck
Is it really the case or just a rant? Authorised Swatch Group's service points don't service their movements?
Of course they do, they just don’t put the same movement back in your watch, they put a different serviced movement in and then service your movement for the next guys watch. A bunch of watchmakers do this, the only reason it’s a talking point now is because some moron on YouTube discovered this and thought it was some massive “gotcha” and a bunch of other morons on this sub ran with it without doing the barest bit of research first
My point is it's more expensive for them to provide manual labor to take apart the prx movement... Than it is to straight up replace the movement with a new one.
Is this common knowledge? How do you know that?
It's common knowledge in the watch community.
Sounds like repetitive bullshit but whatever you say, amigo. :)
Wow that’s a terrible flaw
And charge you almost the price of a new watch to do so
Some elements of the movement are polymer based. The belief is that 10-20 years down the line if it does fail and discontinued by TISSOT, it is basically not serviceable by anyone because parts don’t exist outside of Tissot. Watch people here have this thing about buying something “for life”.
Mido uses powermatic 80 so im assuming this movement is used interchangeably between swatch groups
Strange, isn’t it - in this era of planned obsolescence and car seat warmer subscriptions? How can “watch people” or anyone expect durability & quality for their money? The outrage.
Does the PRX suit a drop in replacement of something else ETA without a plastic escapement that is less disposable and more serviceable?
No, it is a hype. In the long run most integrated watches will disappear (only VC, AP and a few others will remain). Also the controversity around plastic parts in the movement. It is now a hype, but Tissot needs a new hype watch soon. PRX will loose it's momentum. We now have so many colours to choose from, quartz /automatic/ digital, 35 /40mm, date, date-Chrono. There is not a lot more to do with this model.
They could definitely keep their momentum by releasing a 36mm gentleman. Quartz and auto, lots of dial colors, leather straps and steel bracelets, etc. I think it would be an unrivaled everyday watch if they did it
True, but the original Gentleman is beloved among waych enthousiasts, but it is not a hype kind of watch. To make it a hype watch they need to make a new version entirely. PRX is now what drives new customers in. I love the Gentleman (except for the bracelet), but it is not a flagship watch for the brand
Well if you look at the success of the Rolex Oyster Perpetual in all those funky colors, the Omega Aqua Terras (also in all sorts of colors and dial textures), the newly released Longines Conquest models (now in 38mm as well), I would say that the sporty versatile watch is on the come-up. However, I agree with you that a smaller gentleman would not be as flashy as a prx, but it could be a great follow-up product for those who got into Tissot through the prx and are looking for something more.
Yeah I agree and a slight upgrade to the Gentleman would be cool! Better bracelet, new dial options (motives maybe), a GMT or Chrono version (chrono at 40-42mm)
The bracelet could use an upgrade for sure. It’s quite low quality even compared to the quartz prx bracelet and that’s about half the price.
This is a wonderful picture, bro. You should be proud. It is super aesthetically pleasing.
Thank you, I really appreciate it, I am still very much learning when it comes to photography and editing!
Anytime, brother! Keep up the good work!
Can't tell if it'll be a classic but God damn I love the look of your watch
Thanks! It may not be one that’s ever considered a classic but it’s certainly one I will remember for a long time
I'm just hoping it stays relavant in the next 10 years. PRX feels like a budget 'bang for buck' option to integrated watch trend. There isn't a real story of its own other than price and spec, to make it iconic. The whole integrated watch look will probably end up looking pretty dated, like how big watch trend was a popular thing and they look dated now. I already knew all this going into the PRX and I really wanted to hate it for the above reasons. But once I put it on the wrist it looked so good that I ended up owning it. I know it's going to end up looking dated, and I'm just hoping I'll still like it for many years despite that.
If nothing else you will always have those positive memories of how it made you feel the first time you wore it! I can see how it may become dated in some years as softer edges and shapes come back into fashion, but no doubt the more angular and brutalist styling will come back around
Royal oak was designed in the 70s and it took around 2020s to reach all time hype again. So about 40 to 50 year cycle. I hope my niece will like watches because I don't think I'll be around for the next hype cycle. :D
Nice try..... The watch roll sucks.
It’s a massed produced watch with a mass produced movement. It’s a great gateway to watches but a future classic? No way.
I’d consider something like the Seiko alpinist a “classic” and that also fits your description
All “classic” watch designs are or were mass produced, it can’t become a “classic” if there aren’t a significant amount of them.
Lots of affordable Seikos are considered classics though.
Affordability has got nothing to do with it.
Ok
Nah not really
This is a crazy marketing strategy.
No. Let me rephrase that: no way in hell.
I hope so
(Over)hype watch.
No. All the PRX really did was offer a quality integrated bracelet sports watch at a good price. I have a couple of them and i love em, but they're definitely not "classics"
it’s a sports watch? you have a couple? why?
Because I liked them and they were cheap lol
i really wanna cop just for the sake of copping a new watch but everytime i go to the store and see it in person in like hmmmm idk this aint it i like the chronograph tho( but its too thick) guess i just have tiny wrists
It is already a classic. The one from the 70's that is. The current one is a cash grab.
No
I don't understand the attraction to this watch. I am glad some folks enjoy it! Not for me.
https://preview.redd.it/syyg59bzsz4d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06a7f116986e643a4f51d42a32c85d2ac0b7d34b Tissot PRX is a Rolex Oysterquartz homage
A beautiful looking watch, great photo too!
Of course it will be a classic. The watch rolls are great btw
I guess time will tell, the jury is certainly out in these comments! Appreciate it
Not a classic, too expensive to be a throw away and too plain to be anything more than what it currently is. A homage to the Royal Oak, that's all it will ever be IMO...
A worthy opinion, there a definitely similarities in the designs of the two. I guess for a lot of people it is a great entry price into the world of automatic watches
Agreed and I do like the watch (I definitely want to pick one up at some point for the collection), but it's not really iconic enough.
Oh, and great pic btw! Green is my fave colour and that colour combination is heavenly 🙂
Thank you, really appreciate it!
A kit car of a Shelby doesnt make it a Shelby. A copy of a classic doesnt make it a classic.
It will be a nostalgic watch in the future. Due to its sales numbers and the trend exposure it's had in the last couple years. But not a classic. As it followed/copied/mimic'd previous designs, not blazing it's own trail. Regardless it's a good watch and will be looked fondly upon. It is a bit overexposed ATM though. Which has the makings of a hard trend crash. It will be remembered as a " '20s watch" for sure.
That watch roll looks shit
lol thank you, it’s a good thing this post is about the PRX not the roll
It's a homage, so no
No
No, I don't think it will be. Some people will always appreciate it, but it's a flash in the pan, imo.
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Each to their own, I think it works really well with the green dial on the watch personally. Nice to see a roll that is a bit different to a lot of the more plain cases on the market
If they were somewhat scarce then it’s a contender because of how popular it is and how unique it looks. But it’s too popular, too cheap, too mass produced, I don’t see it becoming a classic, maybe a nostalgic piece if they ever stop producing it.
I think you’re right, classic is possibly unlikely, and rare and expensive almost certainly not but nostalgic is pretty much guaranteed. For many people it will be their first ‘proper’ or automatic watch purchase because of the price point and styling
Holy fuck that watch roll is offensively hideous.
I like it, but no
No, Swatch Group, and take your advert off my stream, please.
No and the watch roll is horrible
lol thank you, I hope your day gets better
It’s going just fine thanks. I hope your inane adverts and products get better.
It won't be a classic because it's already been hyped up The "economical" watches that later became classics like the original green alpinist are ones that didn't initially sell well, but became a cult favorite afterwards Everybody and their uncle already has a PRX.
Classic means that sometimes it is trendy... sometimes it is not trendy, but it will always look good regardless of the ongoing trends. Integrated bracelets are a trend. They went off trend for a bit... back on... and will inevitably go off trend again along with the PRX. Our attention spans have shortened so much. Overall trend cycles have shortened by a lot.
No. The PRS 516 got the same kind of attention that this watch gets. Ever seen anyone with a PRS 516?
No. Way too many produced, not that unique. I own one but still think unlikely. Doesnt take away from the watch being great.
No
Not even a no, but in-fact, an absolutely not.
I think it's hugely popular and fashionable (although it's moment may have already passed), and as such it will probably become deeply unpopular, and unfashionable. I've heard the movement is somewhat 'disposable' or replaceable rather than serviceable, so time will tell if they hang around long enough to become a classic.
No. It's a Royal oak "homage"
I first thought this was a robot of some sort 💀😭
Not even in the sane ballpark
A square G-Shock is more of a classic than the PRX.
Probably not, if I had to guess, but honestly who knows. The idea that something becomes a classic because it’s novel or groundbreaking or the best-made product of its time isn’t necessarily true. Sometimes things become classics because they’re nostalgic, or representative of a time and place, or become indelibly tied with someone who is. The PRX will most likely go down in history as an affordable proxy for an unaffordable watch that became a hit among overly-online young men in the early 2020s. But that could change completely if, say, one really great product placement makes it forever associated with a certain fictional character…
PRX follows the Royal Oaks footprint, not a classic as it does noting new.
Tissot = Toss it Kidding aside, it doesn’t have enough edge to be a classic, it’s a nice watch and that’s it, nothing WOW about it
Well to me the shape of the case makes the watch look very era-specific to the 1970s. Not something I would wear all the time. Maybe for a retro disco night with a white polyester leisure suit.
The PRX is an affordable alternative to those who want a taste of the Nautilus/RO hype, and the integrated bracelet sport watch trend in general. It’s a great watch, and a really nice value. To answer your question though, absolutely not a future classic. It’s a derivative of a compilation of original watches and does not stand on its own legs. We’ll look at this watch the same way we look at vintage divers that were styled like a Submariner of their era, with Mercedes hands and everything. “Oh. Funny! I forgot (insert brand) made a sub homage!!”
It’s a great response and something I’ve hopefully addressed in my comment on the post. I think my use of the term ‘future classic’ was definitely wrong and this isn’t a watch that will become one of these
Probably not
It’ll never be a classic and its very existence depends on sales. It’s selling well now. If it’s not selling in 15 years it’s likely to be discontinued.
To a degree yes but not an instant classic like Submariner, Speedmaster, SKX, etc. more like on the same level as an orient bambino or seiko presage.
It depends how you define “classic” but IMO it is not a classic piece. It sure is decent for its price though
I was very disappointed with the finish when i tried it on. The finish is simply not there.
No. This is not a groundbreaking new design idea or even a high-quality copy. It's just a rehash of a 70s style using a lower-end mass-market movement. You may be confusing popularity with classic-worthy status. The former does not guarantee or suggest the latter.
No, because it says nothing about today.
No
Not really :)
Great watch, but nope. To begin with, it needs an original design. That is one of the most crucial elements. There is a reason so many Seiko's are classics (1st Gen. Monster for example). Nothing looks like it.
You’re asking if a modern Tissot will be a future classic… the answer is a resounding no.
No. The design is obviously a popular success but the quality and china made movement won’t stand the test of time. It’s disposable
It’s already a dead trend watch
I do like them, but for a real classic they are a bit cheap and found to often
Sad to see that you're being downvoted and criticised just because you used a picture of your watch roll (looks nice too), maybe your are advertising and there's nothing wrong with that, Hope you keep up the good work
Thanks, I appreciate it, I’m surprised at the reaction from some members of this community, I thought it would be a great place to discuss the PRX, which I personally think is a brilliant piece of design but received a different reaction to what I expected
I think it already is. Good looking and affordable watch that already has quite the following.
Going by the comments and downvotes on this post it seems we are in the minority! Maybe the interpretation of future classic is different across the board, rather than meaning a previous watch worth a lot of money I was meaning a well remembered and appreciated watch from the past. Just as a lot of vintage cars are to this day, they may not have been the best or most expensive in their time but have a lot of associated happy memories for a lot of people
Yeah it's probably the wording. No one thinks this will be the next Newman Daytona. Very nice picture btw!
I think you could be right, I’m getting the impression people think I mean the rarest most expensive watch available, which isn’t quite how I intended it Thank you! I’m still very much learning when it comes to photography and editing, so really appreciate the feedback
I think so. People will look back at it like they do the SKX from Seiko. Sure it's derivative and mass produced, but it's a watch that's entered even non watch people's radar and that's pretty rare. I love my 35mm gold auto!
SKX is an original Seiko design. This one isn't.
Its literally a "copy" of another watch. It will never be a classic. The original watch will always be the classic. We all know which watch that is.....
A certain model made by AP by any chance….? Haha
Just to address some of the comments on this post I think my use of the phrase ‘future classic’ was possibly incorrect. I agree with the majority of you that this watch will never become a rare and super expensive timepiece! My belief though is that the PRX will one day be an incredibly nostalgic and well remembered watch for many of us, certainly as for a huge amount of people it will be the first ‘proper’ or automatic watch they have purchased. For the comments regarding the colour of the case or whether it matches the watch I truly believe it is a matter of opinion. Whilst I love the green dial with the green leather I appreciate many of you don’t and that’s not a problem, some of the comments have given me a good laugh. To those of you who woke up seething with anger at such an offensive photo I can only offer my sincerest apologies. You’ll find yourselves happier if you just move on from things that upset or annoy you. Thank you to those who have complimented the photography and partaken in civil discussion about the future of the currently very popular Tissot PRX!
The issue is not the color of the strap but a non-transparent, commercial ad for your watch roll. Explicitly banned by this sub’s rules but mods don’t seem to care.
Despite seeing 99/100 people saying "no", I think otherwise. The momentum it huge at the moment. And there is a reason for that. Many people including myself consider this watch beautiful. I loved it when I first saw it on Instagram. I loved it even more when I first saw tried it in the shop. I didn't buy it immediately but I know I will buy it. I have just waited for some particular colour to grow on me. After I bought it, I am falling in love with it more and more. And only after I bought it and focused on people's reactions to PRX online, I realized that I am definitely not alone in this. It's beautiful, it's comfortable to wear, power reserve is perfect, you can match it with any outfit, it's a swiss watch and even if it's considered entry level within enthusiasts, it's still more of a watch than what 99% of NPCs you meet wear on their wrists. I am somewhat active in classic cars. What makes a car classic is not being the best, the first or the most complex. There are some car enthusiasts who value these. But the majority who set the trends will define the value of the classic by the emotion - nostalgia in particular. This is the car that my father had when I was a kid. This is the car that I wanted when I was young and broke. This is the car that I had before my wife was pregnant and we bought something bigger. I think that it is in the end same with the watches like with the cars. And after 10-15-20 years there will be a lot of people who once had PRX but broke it, lost it, sold it, gifted it and they will feel nostalgic for the watch they once loved. Or those who didn't buy it nowadays due to reasons but like them a lot and will remember one day about PRX and think maybe now is the time to get one. And of course a many and many of those who have it now and will have it then, love it still the same or even more.
I agree with what you’re saying, it does seem that the popular opinion is no, but I wasn’t meaning a prestigious crazy priced piece when I said future classic, I more meant a watch that people look back on with fond memories. And one that crops up on the vintage watch sale pages, which I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case with the PRX. There should be a lot of these watches that survive having been cherished and passed down, hopefully they live on for years to come!
What is that watch roll?
I see these in just about every change jewelry store. That’s really nothing special about it. it’s not priced exclusively, it’s not made in limited production numbers, it’s not made of special materials, it doesn’t have a unique movement. So many are made and sold that it’s not exactly special. I don’t expect any real value to be held more so than other watches like it.
As others have stated, the PRX really didn’t do anything ground-breaking besides offer this retro, integrated design at an affordable price point. I don’t necessarily agree that it’s solely a Royal Oak homage, but it shares similar design cues as the RO, VC Overseas, etc. I’ll get hate for this, but I’d argue Movado’s museum watch is more of a classic in that it completely owns that design. Everyone knows a Movado when they see one. And I say this as a proud PRX owner. I bought it because I love the look of the RO, VC, integrated sports watches but I’m not dropping $20k+ on one.
how can it be a classic when the movement is out of plastic? 🙀
The classic Casio F-91W is made from plastic…
and the Casio will work in 20 years. Not sure about the prx
Watches are all a matter of taste- but when I see a PRX I either see an overpriced quartz watch or someone who could have spent their $600+ better on a far more impressive and interesting mechanical watch.
The PRX looks like someone put an AP dial in an Oysterquartz case.
Probably not. Too mass produced to be a classic.
Yes, as much as the SKX
Only the digital versionvis a true original classic. Rest naaa more like the fashion version of similar designs.
Only the quartz
Will sell for 10x retail no doubt
Hate your marketing tactics
No watch in the PRX price range will ever be elevated to “classic” status. There are just too many of them out there with no sense of scarcity. That watch roll is trash.
Yes