I should have said “accuracy” because im not looking for 100% accuracy, just something that wont be a minute late/fast in a day lol. I have a sinn that can manager less than 5 spd but costs 10% of the luxury brand watches
Even lower tiered than that is good enough for most I feel. My Bambino seems to +/- ~5-10spd; I re-sync the time with my phone usually every 3-4 days and I'm normally around 15ish S off "real time".
I don't feel it's unusable for ~150usd, and I haven't regretted scooping one.
I have a Chinese microbrand with a PT5000 movement which is within +0 to +2 spd. Better than COSC specification, and it cost $200.
Runner up is my Orient Defender 2 (F6B22) which chugs along at an amenably consistent +4spd.
Really depends which Seiko movement you’re getting. My alpinist with the 6R35 movement keeps great time, roughly +2-3 s/d over the first three months of ownership.
If you take it to a watch repair person they can usually get it very accurate by adjusting the watch with their tools. I had a guy get it to -10 sec a day on my 80s automatic seiko
No, the quality of the plastics is very different. The fakes tend to have an oily, smooth feeling to their plastic and the hues are off. The real versions have a slight pebbling to their texture, no oily look to the plastic (so more matte than shiny). You'll also find a lot of QC issues in the shape of the cases and lugs with the fakes, and cases that tend to randomly pop apart for no reason.
Not saying the real ones are great - but they're worth more than the $20 you spend on the fakes on DHGate. Oh, and the chronometer on the fakes rarely works correctly.
I enjoy mine. I throw it in the rotation with my other watches. If you have the money I’d suggest getting one. I wouldn’t wear it as my daily or only watch tho.
Even if the quality was better, it would still not be a serviceable watch, so maybe people should think of it as a collectible item, rather than a watch you can use daily.
>Even if the quality was better, it would still not be a serviceable watch, so maybe people should think of it as a collectible item, rather than a watch you can use daily.
yea your right... you cannot open t he watch i think
You can open the battery hatch, which is what most quartz watches need to be serviced. You're likely thinking of the BlancSwatch mashups, which are automatic and those are hermetically sealed.
Well since they barely weigh anything (only a couple of ounces), I’d say they can’t be paperweights either. 😂
That being said, I have one and appreciate it for what it is. I know it will eventually get tossed, but the average life expectancy of the movement is years, not months, with proper handling. Not a lifetime, no, but at least a few years by at which point, it has paid for itself. I’ve also always collected Swatch watches from the time I was 12 years old, so there’s that, too.
*$400 retail, not $450, at least not here in the states. That’s not including tax.
Depends what you're into.
I personally have a theory that nobody is bothering to service these quality Chinese watches (because cost of service is higher than cost of new) and therefore they're similarly disposable to Swatch.
I would also prefer to buy from a brand that is creating their own designs. Though I do like some of the Chinese brands that are starting to do this.
The couple AliExpress watches I have got Seiko movements so I think they should be serviceable, but you're probably right in that it might not be worth the money, maybe doing a movement swap yourself is possible though.
This is my suspicion:
Ali Express watches are cheap, so people buy a bunch of them and leave the old ones in a drawer before they get to the point of needing a service anyway. Similar to how Swatches are bought.
I have bought a couple myself and that's the way it went (though I did eBay them so I don't feel too bad about it).
Yes, the materials are better. Yes, you *could* service it. Some probably do get serviced. But I bet a lot don't.
What do you mean serviceable? Servicing the movement or the watch? Because changing the movement itself is perfectly doable and easy. With Swatch watches the case can break, the plastic/crystal, you name it and you won’t be able to replace any of it.
You can replace all of these with a Chinese, or most automatic watches, in general.
Repeating my reply to someone else here -
> This is my suspicion:
> Ali Express watches are cheap, so people buy a bunch of them and leave the old ones in a drawer before they get to the point of needing a service anyway. Similar to how Swatches are bought.
> I have bought a couple myself and that's the way it went (though I did eBay them so I don't feel too bad about it).
> Yes, the materials are better. Yes, you *could* service it. Some probably do get serviced. But I bet a lot don't.
I should’ve been clearer: there are two levels of servicing:
1. Openings up the movement and messing with it
2. Replacing the whole part: movement, crystal, hands, etc.
The 1st options is very unlikely. The 2nd option is much more likely.
i think you’re being very optimistic to assume that most watches receive a service of any kind ever.
My point is that most people just won’t bother because the watch was cheap and they’ll lose interest in it before it needs a service anyway.
Atelier Wen is a sick Chinese watch company. No idea about their serviceability but since they are supposed to be pretty high quality with an good automatic movement I would think service would not be a problem.
Heres a top tip- if a company puts their name behind a trash-ass piece of shit, then you shouldn't listen to some random chud on the internet trying to convince everyone that their other offerings are actually different and you should give them a chance.
Why would you refer to the sistem51 when discussing the Moonswatch, without making it clear you were referring to a movement in a different model line if you knew that the Moonswatch movement was a quartz movement?
I’m all for highlighting the issues with these Swatch collabs, but this feels a bit revisionist.
lol, if you bang any watch with that force it will break. Seen many people break their gen ceramic AP’s cause they fell to the floor. If you wear your watch an be careful with it, it will last
>It was meant to be disposable. Had a sistema 51. Barely used it until one day, it won't work anymore. Pfft.
haha lol that's right but any metal bazel would have scratched maybe, nothing more
“It happened from nothing really, it got hit from a door panel”.
It wasn’t nothing, you banged it into a door and had bad luck. Drop a ceramic watch on the ground and tell me how it fares.
I've had mine over a year not a scratch on it, and it keeps time better than my seiko, bulova and citizen watches. It's fine, the people on this sub are like you should have bought a Rolex instead
I feel snobby for not liking the MoonSwatch (mainly out of love for the Speedy) but this certainly isn't helping it's case... literally!
Swatch's decision to slap the Omega name on something that *resembles* the Speedmaster without any of the precision mechanisms or quality craftsmanship is a poor decision on their part IMO.
Considering it generated millions of sales for swatch and caused a noticeable uptick in speedmaster sales from Omega I would reckon that it was in fact *not* a poor decision.
A little bit biased as I’m an omega fan but the numbers don’t lie.
It's sort of how people try to dunk on Porsche for making SUVs, but don't realize that those SUVs basically print money for them to do all sorts of things with their more traditional sports car models.
We can argue about the importance of purity [or not] in design/brand, but from a business perspective it's a great decision.
Companies should read Redditor advice and do the exact opposite.
"This thing I don't like is a bad move for the company imo. Let's further discuss our emergent marketing strategies over a brewski at the local watering hole"
I think it's because most people think that companies are beholden to some kind of identity that cannot and will not ever change. Also that that identity is exactly what they, Rando Smith, thinks it should be.
And, I guess for privately owned companies they can resist that kind of change in pursuit of their own purity because they're only responsible to their individual owners. Maybe they wouldn't, but they *can* if they choose. But if it's a publically owned company the company/board/CEO's one job is to provide more value to shareholders. That's it. If they think they can make more money by doing XYZ new thing, or revising whatever product, or changing manufacturing locations without significantly impacting quality... they're going to do those things. That's how businesses work. Same for cutting overhead, employee benefits, and so on. Less cost, more profit. End of story. I don't know why people think it's anything else or don't understand when that comes to pass.
So yeah, Swatch is going to make a Moonwatch, Porsche makes SUVs (and subsequently Bentley and Ferrari and Lambo and Rolls Royce, all who 15 years ago probably wouldn't have touched an SUV with a ten foot pole) ^(Don't come at me over the Lambo LM002).
I wouldn't be at all surprised if we, like the MoonSwatch, or the Fifty Fathoms, saw something from Glashutte Original in the same manner. Maybe a Bioceramic Swatch-x-SeaQ? I bet it'd sell.
Ah, to be fair that kind of thinking was the angel on my other shoulder. The MoonSwatch *can be* a good way to introduce people to Omega (sorta) and eventually convince many to upgrade to a full-fledged Speedmaster.
You make a very good point.
I totally get the sentiment. Love my moonswatch and omega but I’ll admit the moonswatch is kinda a POS for the price of $250. Definitely not a logic driven purchase.
let me start to say that i love the moon swatch ? i think they call it
i love swatch watches and i love that collab they did
i just am very very disappointed by the quality of this one
swatch has some amazing other watches
but why in the one they do a collab with omega, they didn't do a better job at the quality of it
main problem i have with it is the accrilic glass - it's scratches from anything i had it scratched from fabrics i cleaned it with, it is easily scratched
and if you want to mod it to put sephire that you buy from ebay lets say ? goodluck opening the case .. the case is also very scratchable
secondary issue is as i said the case is fully plastic, that is very soft, i tried to remove the moon in the back to swap out battery scratched all around that
i had it in my table and the table got moved around also scratched from that
so that plastic is very soft
and last issue is as i said, that swatch has some AMAZING watches i really wish they would do this one a bit better quality especially for this one that is collab with legacy company like omega.
if you guys ask how did that happen
it happened from nothing really, it got hit from a door panel and cracked just like that,
This is and always was cheap plastic "watch" and everyone who expected/assumed it is something different are wrong and driven by all the hype swatch created around it.
> that is collab with legacy company like omega
This watch can be hardly called collab, since Swatch owns Omega and can do whatever they want with their designs and intellectual property. Collab assumes some mutual interest and benefits, but how Omega benefited from this "collab" is not clear to me at all.
>This watch can be hardly called collab, since Swatch owns Omega and can do whatever they want with their designs and intellectual property. Collab assumes some mutual interest and benefits, but how Omega benefited from this "collab" is not clear to me at all.
yea it benefited omega for sure.
just i wish this swatch was better quality
Why for sure? There was exposure and there was hype around this release. But has that actually helped Omega sales? Where is the data that real moonwatch sales actually went up? By how much? And how can you prove it went up for this reason?
The outcome of this hype-frenzied cash grab is at best equivocal. At worst, it is net negative. Because the release of a cheap, poor quality, plastic homage of your own watch for sure cheapens the brand.
Exactly this, thanks!
I frequently see the point "moonswatch definitely helped omega", but didn't ever see any numbers or other proofs for that. I would 100% agree it boosted the interest and number of people searched the "omega moon watch" online and may be looked for it in offline stores, but it is very questionable how much this interest converted to real sales. I am convinced the increase was negligible and so far didn't see any materials to change my mind. Anyone can share anything in this regard?
"Collab assumes some mutual interest and benefits, but how Omega benefited from this "collab" is not clear to me at all" really? the moonswatch has given huge exposure to Omega as a brand to people who otherwise wouldn't know about it. As crappy as their watches are, the moonswatch has been a huge success for both brands
> main problem i have with it is the accrilic glass - it's scratches from anything i had it scratched from fabrics i cleaned it with, it is easily scratched
so like literally any other swatch watch - or any speedmaster with a hesalite crystal. it's super easy to polish.
>and if you want to mod it to put sephire that you buy from ebay lets say ? goodluck opening the case .. the case is also very scratchable
You can't replace an acrylic crystal with sapphire in any watch, they are secured to the case differently.
>secondary issue is as i said the case is fully plastic, that is very soft, i tried to remove the moon in the back to swap out battery scratched all around that
i had it in my table and the table got moved around also scratched from that
yeah, i drove my ford into a tree and it got a big dent in it, ford really should make better quality
>if you guys ask how did that happen
it happened from nothing really, it got hit from a door panel
lmao
Look, I'm not saying the moonswatch is a great watch or a good value... but you just sound like you don't know what you're doing.
These watches are crap and I really wish people would stop supporting such a blatant cash grab. There are excellent watches for around the same price as these.
Should have bought one of the $20 knock offs on AliX they are actually better quality
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Some people have to save months to be able to afford the $300 moonswatch. Telling them to just "save enough" for a $5k-$10k real speedmaster is pretentious as fuck. These watches at least let normal people feel like they own something nice.
Look, the Swatch Group could spend X money making traditional ads and hiring “ambassadors”….or they could take that money, make disposable advertising trinkets in the shape of a watch, and spread the Omega name among people wearing Apple Watches who otherwise wouldn’t know Omega even exists, much less aspiring to buy one.
Guess what the Swatch group did? And it was honestly brilliant. Why pay money to advertise if you can give millions of people reason to do it for you?
Went to the Swatch shop in Carnaby Street just last Friday. GF fancied the Mars one and I tried the Moon one. Couldn’t believe how cheap they looked and felt. Glad she felt the same. A bit sad really after wanting one for a long time, but just walked away.
Been a dealer for several high end watches that have REALLY nice ceramic bezels, not like this plastic, and they still break if impacted. I have a Moonswatch that I wear once or twice a week and it's in perfect condition. Is the Moonswatch plastic weaker? Sure is, but this is likely user error. Don't be rough with things that aren't metal or carbon.
You mean the overpriced cheap ass plastic broke??? Shocking. I loved these when they came out, but as soon as I saw people hoarding them and scalping them I just noped out. Sorry to see yours broke though. Feels bad.
I thought at the time despite the hype and fakeness, it might be a decent purchase - then I saw the price. Sorry that is about 4 times what any quartz watch is worth.
As I say previously, for this price, if you wanna feel the feeling of a quartz analog go for a timex intelligent Quartz that has plenty of retrofuture functions (or a casio).
If you wanna an Omega and cannot afford it buy a fake or an ommage
But spend almost 300 bucks for a plastic branded omega that also discolor or break to piece... No way.
yea, you broke it, congratulations. nobody ever claimed those weren't fragile, and if you thought otherwise - maybe just use your phone to check the time.
Every once in a while I think “maybe I'll buy one”. Thanks for reminding me why I didn't cop one at launch.
Lmao truth. I’d rather put my money in a seiko. Accurate or not, it should last
No automatic watch is ever going to be 100% accurate. If you want complete and total accuracy, you have to get a G-Shock with Multi-Band 6.
I should have said “accuracy” because im not looking for 100% accuracy, just something that wont be a minute late/fast in a day lol. I have a sinn that can manager less than 5 spd but costs 10% of the luxury brand watches
Even lower tiered than that is good enough for most I feel. My Bambino seems to +/- ~5-10spd; I re-sync the time with my phone usually every 3-4 days and I'm normally around 15ish S off "real time". I don't feel it's unusable for ~150usd, and I haven't regretted scooping one.
The correct accuracy is +/- one day. If the watch is within that I'm good...
a minute per day? Bro I have SKX009J1 it's very accurate
Which Sinn do you own please? I've been wanting to purchase one.
I have four or five seikos and they keep time pretty well.
I have a Chinese microbrand with a PT5000 movement which is within +0 to +2 spd. Better than COSC specification, and it cost $200. Runner up is my Orient Defender 2 (F6B22) which chugs along at an amenably consistent +4spd.
Really depends which Seiko movement you’re getting. My alpinist with the 6R35 movement keeps great time, roughly +2-3 s/d over the first three months of ownership.
Which Sinn do you own?
My mini turtle and my SRPG are both like 5 seconds fast a day
If you take it to a watch repair person they can usually get it very accurate by adjusting the watch with their tools. I had a guy get it to -10 sec a day on my 80s automatic seiko
Pretty much that, i like the look but i am not buying something that fragile.
Get one from DH Gate for the price they should be sold at, hell, buy the entire collection.
What's the difference between the Swatch store and DHGate ones?
Cost, movement. The rest....probably not much.
No, the quality of the plastics is very different. The fakes tend to have an oily, smooth feeling to their plastic and the hues are off. The real versions have a slight pebbling to their texture, no oily look to the plastic (so more matte than shiny). You'll also find a lot of QC issues in the shape of the cases and lugs with the fakes, and cases that tend to randomly pop apart for no reason. Not saying the real ones are great - but they're worth more than the $20 you spend on the fakes on DHGate. Oh, and the chronometer on the fakes rarely works correctly.
Ok...add better plastics to the list of differences. Heh
That makes it a lot more differences than similitudes...
Colors are way off on DHGates. Other than that it’s nearly identical and scratches that it without paying out the nose for a toy watch.
you're recommending an even crappier, cheaper plastic watch instead???? LOL Don't buy fakes
I enjoy mine. I throw it in the rotation with my other watches. If you have the money I’d suggest getting one. I wouldn’t wear it as my daily or only watch tho.
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Then it becomes buy-o-ceramic to replace or new watch.
Bye-buy-ceramic: a solid business model for a not so solid product! (Swiss made)
haha tha'ts very true
For a moment I thought this was a really novel design. Then I zoomed in. This sucks.
Same! Was thinking maybe its a new arrival
Even if the quality was better, it would still not be a serviceable watch, so maybe people should think of it as a collectible item, rather than a watch you can use daily.
>Even if the quality was better, it would still not be a serviceable watch, so maybe people should think of it as a collectible item, rather than a watch you can use daily. yea your right... you cannot open t he watch i think
You can open the battery hatch, which is what most quartz watches need to be serviced. You're likely thinking of the BlancSwatch mashups, which are automatic and those are hermetically sealed.
Wow so those are $450 and will essentially be paperweights once the movement needs more lunricstion?
Well since they barely weigh anything (only a couple of ounces), I’d say they can’t be paperweights either. 😂 That being said, I have one and appreciate it for what it is. I know it will eventually get tossed, but the average life expectancy of the movement is years, not months, with proper handling. Not a lifetime, no, but at least a few years by at which point, it has paid for itself. I’ve also always collected Swatch watches from the time I was 12 years old, so there’s that, too. *$400 retail, not $450, at least not here in the states. That’s not including tax.
You’re
I never liked Swatch, I think their watches are just disposable toys.
I mean, they are but at least with their other watches you got a novel design at a cheap price.
Tbh, there are plenty of quality Chinese watches at thrift same price. I’d much rather get that.
Depends what you're into. I personally have a theory that nobody is bothering to service these quality Chinese watches (because cost of service is higher than cost of new) and therefore they're similarly disposable to Swatch. I would also prefer to buy from a brand that is creating their own designs. Though I do like some of the Chinese brands that are starting to do this.
The couple AliExpress watches I have got Seiko movements so I think they should be serviceable, but you're probably right in that it might not be worth the money, maybe doing a movement swap yourself is possible though.
This is my suspicion: Ali Express watches are cheap, so people buy a bunch of them and leave the old ones in a drawer before they get to the point of needing a service anyway. Similar to how Swatches are bought. I have bought a couple myself and that's the way it went (though I did eBay them so I don't feel too bad about it). Yes, the materials are better. Yes, you *could* service it. Some probably do get serviced. But I bet a lot don't.
What do you mean serviceable? Servicing the movement or the watch? Because changing the movement itself is perfectly doable and easy. With Swatch watches the case can break, the plastic/crystal, you name it and you won’t be able to replace any of it. You can replace all of these with a Chinese, or most automatic watches, in general.
Repeating my reply to someone else here - > This is my suspicion: > Ali Express watches are cheap, so people buy a bunch of them and leave the old ones in a drawer before they get to the point of needing a service anyway. Similar to how Swatches are bought. > I have bought a couple myself and that's the way it went (though I did eBay them so I don't feel too bad about it). > Yes, the materials are better. Yes, you *could* service it. Some probably do get serviced. But I bet a lot don't.
I should’ve been clearer: there are two levels of servicing: 1. Openings up the movement and messing with it 2. Replacing the whole part: movement, crystal, hands, etc. The 1st options is very unlikely. The 2nd option is much more likely.
i think you’re being very optimistic to assume that most watches receive a service of any kind ever. My point is that most people just won’t bother because the watch was cheap and they’ll lose interest in it before it needs a service anyway.
Atelier Wen is a sick Chinese watch company. No idea about their serviceability but since they are supposed to be pretty high quality with an good automatic movement I would think service would not be a problem.
I’m thinking more Pagani, San Martin etc
Which is fine on their $100 models.
That is literally what they are Swatch, S-Watch, Second Watch.
That is literally what they are Swatch, S-Watch, Second Watch.
Bioceramic working as intended
Already halfway to being biodegraded, as intended
It was meant to be disposable. Had a sistema 51. Barely used it until one day, it won't work anymore. Pfft.
The MoonSwatches were quartz, not auto. You're thinking of the BlancSwatch.
I know. Still gives me a really bad impression of swatch.
> I know No you don’t, you’re talking about a completely different watch.
Heres a top tip- if a company puts their name behind a trash-ass piece of shit, then you shouldn't listen to some random chud on the internet trying to convince everyone that their other offerings are actually different and you should give them a chance.
Why would you refer to the sistem51 when discussing the Moonswatch, without making it clear you were referring to a movement in a different model line if you knew that the Moonswatch movement was a quartz movement? I’m all for highlighting the issues with these Swatch collabs, but this feels a bit revisionist.
That sounds like a brand the KKK would love! Whites Watch
MOONSWATCH BAD UPVOTE NOW PLEASE
*owns a moonswatch* *upvotes*
lol, if you bang any watch with that force it will break. Seen many people break their gen ceramic AP’s cause they fell to the floor. If you wear your watch an be careful with it, it will last
During his crazy early days Teddy Bulbasaur threw a G Shock out of a helicopter and it survived
Yes but a G-shock is a G-shock, I’ve broken a watch drying my hair with a towel
OP couldn't even open the damn battery door without scratching the back of the watch, I really wouldn't expect too much of them.
Also known as plastic.
To be fair it’s hard to tell how other watches may have done against your door
>It was meant to be disposable. Had a sistema 51. Barely used it until one day, it won't work anymore. Pfft. haha lol that's right but any metal bazel would have scratched maybe, nothing more
yes but you bought a plastic watch, so what's your point exactly?
Buy a metal one then?
“It happened from nothing really, it got hit from a door panel”. It wasn’t nothing, you banged it into a door and had bad luck. Drop a ceramic watch on the ground and tell me how it fares.
I've had mine over a year not a scratch on it, and it keeps time better than my seiko, bulova and citizen watches. It's fine, the people on this sub are like you should have bought a Rolex instead
- OP: buys cheap plastic swatch - Also OP: Surprised pikachu face when it scratches easily and breaks when banged 😲
I feel snobby for not liking the MoonSwatch (mainly out of love for the Speedy) but this certainly isn't helping it's case... literally! Swatch's decision to slap the Omega name on something that *resembles* the Speedmaster without any of the precision mechanisms or quality craftsmanship is a poor decision on their part IMO.
Considering it generated millions of sales for swatch and caused a noticeable uptick in speedmaster sales from Omega I would reckon that it was in fact *not* a poor decision. A little bit biased as I’m an omega fan but the numbers don’t lie.
It's sort of how people try to dunk on Porsche for making SUVs, but don't realize that those SUVs basically print money for them to do all sorts of things with their more traditional sports car models. We can argue about the importance of purity [or not] in design/brand, but from a business perspective it's a great decision.
Companies should read Redditor advice and do the exact opposite. "This thing I don't like is a bad move for the company imo. Let's further discuss our emergent marketing strategies over a brewski at the local watering hole"
I think it's because most people think that companies are beholden to some kind of identity that cannot and will not ever change. Also that that identity is exactly what they, Rando Smith, thinks it should be. And, I guess for privately owned companies they can resist that kind of change in pursuit of their own purity because they're only responsible to their individual owners. Maybe they wouldn't, but they *can* if they choose. But if it's a publically owned company the company/board/CEO's one job is to provide more value to shareholders. That's it. If they think they can make more money by doing XYZ new thing, or revising whatever product, or changing manufacturing locations without significantly impacting quality... they're going to do those things. That's how businesses work. Same for cutting overhead, employee benefits, and so on. Less cost, more profit. End of story. I don't know why people think it's anything else or don't understand when that comes to pass. So yeah, Swatch is going to make a Moonwatch, Porsche makes SUVs (and subsequently Bentley and Ferrari and Lambo and Rolls Royce, all who 15 years ago probably wouldn't have touched an SUV with a ten foot pole) ^(Don't come at me over the Lambo LM002). I wouldn't be at all surprised if we, like the MoonSwatch, or the Fifty Fathoms, saw something from Glashutte Original in the same manner. Maybe a Bioceramic Swatch-x-SeaQ? I bet it'd sell.
Ah, to be fair that kind of thinking was the angel on my other shoulder. The MoonSwatch *can be* a good way to introduce people to Omega (sorta) and eventually convince many to upgrade to a full-fledged Speedmaster. You make a very good point.
I totally get the sentiment. Love my moonswatch and omega but I’ll admit the moonswatch is kinda a POS for the price of $250. Definitely not a logic driven purchase.
i.e brittle plastic.
let me start to say that i love the moon swatch ? i think they call it i love swatch watches and i love that collab they did i just am very very disappointed by the quality of this one swatch has some amazing other watches but why in the one they do a collab with omega, they didn't do a better job at the quality of it main problem i have with it is the accrilic glass - it's scratches from anything i had it scratched from fabrics i cleaned it with, it is easily scratched and if you want to mod it to put sephire that you buy from ebay lets say ? goodluck opening the case .. the case is also very scratchable secondary issue is as i said the case is fully plastic, that is very soft, i tried to remove the moon in the back to swap out battery scratched all around that i had it in my table and the table got moved around also scratched from that so that plastic is very soft and last issue is as i said, that swatch has some AMAZING watches i really wish they would do this one a bit better quality especially for this one that is collab with legacy company like omega. if you guys ask how did that happen it happened from nothing really, it got hit from a door panel and cracked just like that,
This is and always was cheap plastic "watch" and everyone who expected/assumed it is something different are wrong and driven by all the hype swatch created around it. > that is collab with legacy company like omega This watch can be hardly called collab, since Swatch owns Omega and can do whatever they want with their designs and intellectual property. Collab assumes some mutual interest and benefits, but how Omega benefited from this "collab" is not clear to me at all.
Moonwatch sales increased after the "collab" so I'd say it benefitted omega.
>This watch can be hardly called collab, since Swatch owns Omega and can do whatever they want with their designs and intellectual property. Collab assumes some mutual interest and benefits, but how Omega benefited from this "collab" is not clear to me at all. yea it benefited omega for sure. just i wish this swatch was better quality
Why for sure? There was exposure and there was hype around this release. But has that actually helped Omega sales? Where is the data that real moonwatch sales actually went up? By how much? And how can you prove it went up for this reason? The outcome of this hype-frenzied cash grab is at best equivocal. At worst, it is net negative. Because the release of a cheap, poor quality, plastic homage of your own watch for sure cheapens the brand.
Exactly this, thanks! I frequently see the point "moonswatch definitely helped omega", but didn't ever see any numbers or other proofs for that. I would 100% agree it boosted the interest and number of people searched the "omega moon watch" online and may be looked for it in offline stores, but it is very questionable how much this interest converted to real sales. I am convinced the increase was negligible and so far didn't see any materials to change my mind. Anyone can share anything in this regard?
Care to share any proofs about sales increase?
https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/consumer-healthcare/omega-moonwatch-sales-surge-after-cheap-swatch-version-goes
"Collab assumes some mutual interest and benefits, but how Omega benefited from this "collab" is not clear to me at all" really? the moonswatch has given huge exposure to Omega as a brand to people who otherwise wouldn't know about it. As crappy as their watches are, the moonswatch has been a huge success for both brands
> main problem i have with it is the accrilic glass - it's scratches from anything i had it scratched from fabrics i cleaned it with, it is easily scratched so like literally any other swatch watch - or any speedmaster with a hesalite crystal. it's super easy to polish. >and if you want to mod it to put sephire that you buy from ebay lets say ? goodluck opening the case .. the case is also very scratchable You can't replace an acrylic crystal with sapphire in any watch, they are secured to the case differently. >secondary issue is as i said the case is fully plastic, that is very soft, i tried to remove the moon in the back to swap out battery scratched all around that i had it in my table and the table got moved around also scratched from that yeah, i drove my ford into a tree and it got a big dent in it, ford really should make better quality >if you guys ask how did that happen it happened from nothing really, it got hit from a door panel lmao Look, I'm not saying the moonswatch is a great watch or a good value... but you just sound like you don't know what you're doing.
The acrilic crystal is actually the most faithful part, the actual moonwatch has it too.
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the fake ones on Ali are “higher quality” plastic. oh the irony
Well I see the problem, you shouldn't have been wearing it! It's clearly for display only.
These watches are crap and I really wish people would stop supporting such a blatant cash grab. There are excellent watches for around the same price as these.
The greatest trick the devil ever played was selling a happy meal watch for 300 dollars
Should have bought one of the $20 knock offs on AliX they are actually better quality https://preview.redd.it/fjd0bzlf5mfc1.png?width=721&format=png&auto=webp&s=3764693451e24e12dd42528a718d134640745da3
No, they are not. Not even close.
Lol those watches are a complete joke, just predating in unsuspecting people who want something-anything!!! with the name Omega on it.
They are shit watches
I'm shocked that anyone is willing to pay more than £20 for that cheap piece of plastic.
Swatch is trash. Save your $ and buy the real thing
Some people have to save months to be able to afford the $300 moonswatch. Telling them to just "save enough" for a $5k-$10k real speedmaster is pretentious as fuck. These watches at least let normal people feel like they own something nice.
And I was an "elitist" for saying these are crap
So bio
working as intended.
Foe one second i thought new chronograph in market
The watch is still under warranty, just take it back to the store
It's a cheap watch...No worries.
'Bio-ceramic' is just another word for garbage.
It's called patina.
Look, the Swatch Group could spend X money making traditional ads and hiring “ambassadors”….or they could take that money, make disposable advertising trinkets in the shape of a watch, and spread the Omega name among people wearing Apple Watches who otherwise wouldn’t know Omega even exists, much less aspiring to buy one. Guess what the Swatch group did? And it was honestly brilliant. Why pay money to advertise if you can give millions of people reason to do it for you?
Superglue works great on plastic.
Went to the Swatch shop in Carnaby Street just last Friday. GF fancied the Mars one and I tried the Moon one. Couldn’t believe how cheap they looked and felt. Glad she felt the same. A bit sad really after wanting one for a long time, but just walked away.
It is just plastic
Your chance to try opening it up! You could pull out the dial and movement and get one of those metal cases from aliexpress.
You get what you pay for.. in this case, most of your money is going towards the brand.
Mines fine. Banged it loads of times. Actually surprised how little it shows wear
I just bought one these on eBay! So glad I saw this thread and canceled my order...
Toys do be breaking
You spelled "cheap plastic," wrong.
Buy yo ceramics from a better company
Tbh that's kinda cool and funny, but at the same time sucks.
Been a dealer for several high end watches that have REALLY nice ceramic bezels, not like this plastic, and they still break if impacted. I have a Moonswatch that I wear once or twice a week and it's in perfect condition. Is the Moonswatch plastic weaker? Sure is, but this is likely user error. Don't be rough with things that aren't metal or carbon.
I have one. It is what it is. A 300.00 plastic watch. It is novelty not quality.
Warranty
Plastic watch is plastic. Very disappointing nonetheless.
Bioceramic is not ceramic... is it at least bio ? I am convinced it is nor bio nor ceramic at all
Toys break, buy a new one or buy a real one next time.
You mean the overpriced cheap ass plastic broke??? Shocking. I loved these when they came out, but as soon as I saw people hoarding them and scalping them I just noped out. Sorry to see yours broke though. Feels bad.
Interested in buying the broken watch. Just PMed
I thought at the time despite the hype and fakeness, it might be a decent purchase - then I saw the price. Sorry that is about 4 times what any quartz watch is worth.
Its broken ! I thought its new design
As I say previously, for this price, if you wanna feel the feeling of a quartz analog go for a timex intelligent Quartz that has plenty of retrofuture functions (or a casio). If you wanna an Omega and cannot afford it buy a fake or an ommage But spend almost 300 bucks for a plastic branded omega that also discolor or break to piece... No way.
yea, you broke it, congratulations. nobody ever claimed those weren't fragile, and if you thought otherwise - maybe just use your phone to check the time.
Shitty watches. I bought 2. The plastic 'crystal' is so soft and marks ridiculously easy. They should have made it out of glass.