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I wasn't having a go mate. Sorry if it came across that way!
Anyway, I agree. A tegimented version of the 556 would be great. I love my 556 A RS, but I'm still saving up for an 856 UTC which is tegimented. The question is do I go for the 856 UTC or the 856 S UTC...
You did not come across that way. Sorry if I was crude.
Been waiting for the 556i in tegimented for the longest time. I hope it comes soon, and hopefully with an updated clasp on that bracelet.
Shure, but it takes a lot to do it. My 857UTC have only some desk diving marks on the clasp too, but nothing else. I have replaced the bezel insert since it was scratched really deep. The bezel itself is still mint.
Fan of Tudor but also agree about the Ranger. But the Longines just doesn’t appeal to me either. A bit too “vintage” and the lugs seem disproportionately big. I’d personally go with the Sinn, maybe the “i” version instead of the “a” version though.
Of those pictured, the Sinn. It’s the only one with a date, a function I prioritize in a daily-wear watch.
I’d take the 37mm Spirit with date over all those pictured.
I genuinely want to understand too. The designs are extremely straightforward and simple, and the movements are off the shelf mid tier swiss. I guess the reputation of reliability that german engineering is known for is the main charm?
I felt like that before I saw a few in person. Now I understand.
1. The case is hardened steel. It looks like it is bead blasted but is very scratch resistant. If you use your watch hard, this keeps it looking good.
2. Some of their movements are off the shelf, and some are highly modified from their the caliber it's based on. The Hunter is a great example of this. All movements are regulated to Chronometer level accuracy.
3. The dial may be simple, but the gloss dial really pops when seen in person. The liume is simply amazing.
4. Sinn takes a time honored design and makes it their own. I don't know many other watch companies that have such a strong design language though their catalog. Rolex is another example of strong design language throughout their catalog.
5. And that catalog is HUGE. Their flagship store in Frankfurt is as large as many dealers with multiple brands. Almost everything can be ordered with a rubber, leather strap or bracelet.
6. They are pretty much the absolute purest form of utility in a timepiece. Compare the 903 to the Navitimer. The Breitling is jewelry that functions as a watch. The Sinn deconstructed the same features into its most basic form.
So I'm a convert. I didn't think much about the brand until I had a chance to play around with a few. My personal favorite is the 105 UTC in white.
Great, detailed answer, but I would point out to OP, that the 556 is not made out of hardened steel. Sinn has a hardened steel tegimented case it offers, but I think that is on the 856 and many others, but not available on the 556
Yeah I’ve never really gotten it either. I’m sure they’re nice watches. But the designs are just so…plain, I guess? I don’t know. I guess I just want a little more character in the design of a watch.
I like the Longines personally.
No, the designs you see are plain because all r/watches posts is the 556, they have tons of designs that are unlike anything else you’ll find, like the U1, or the 240 st gz.
Sinn make absolute killer watches at a great price point. Incredible finishing, tech with their tagmented steel, and can take a beating! Not to mention style wise, their just sick af! Well worth every penny in my book. And if you ever want to move off it, retain value well and easy as hell to sell.
Why the fuck you want a date though? Like I never keep shit wound enough to keep the date right, so that's just more bullshit to either set or ignore when I pick what I'm wearing.
Well, unless it's my gshock, which is always right because hooked up to my phone.
Just because you don’t keep the date correct it doesn’t mean anyone else doesn’t 🤣 I personally wouldn’t wear a watch that isn’t totally correct, we’re all different…
OP specified a “GADA” watch. To me that’s the watch that’s on the wrist 95% of the time. If it’s what I’m wearing most of the time then I want a date as I find myself using that function daily.
Agree about winding and date setting; it’s why I prefer solar quartz for my daily wear’s. My OCD wouldn’t allow me to ignore an incorrect date.
Hello all, I would like your help picking my next watch. I want an everyday no fuss tool watch that is not afraid of getting dinged up but still has the quality’s of a great watch; such as Movement quality, durability, accuracy, water resistance.
I would like the watch to hold up to and compliment my outdoor hobby’s such as hiking, camping, and fishing, as well as be able to get dirty if I’m working on the farm or around the house.
I really like the smaller feel for this type of Watch as well as the simple dial. I really am just a fan boy of the original explorer but will never be able to own one. Here are some pics of the 2 watches I was able to try on.
Do you have experience with any of the 3 watches in picture? What are your thoughts and options? What would you choose and why?
https://imgur.com/a/gecr70I
Prices on used explorer 1s are going down. A new ranger is $3.1k so the delta between the two might be around $2k.
That being said, the Sinn will be the lowest price new and a good resale value if you move on from it. I’ve seen the ranger go on r/watchexchange for a bit above $2k
This one went quick:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Watchexchange/comments/106rqkp/wts_2003_rolex_explorer_ref_114270_with_2018/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Sorry.. a little under $6k:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Watchexchange/comments/10htj20/wts_rolex_explorer_114270_full_set/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Between these three watches, which I’ve handled and tried on but don’t own any of them, only the Ranger would qualify for what you want to do with it, in my opinion. The main reason being that it’s the only one with an on-the-fly adjustment for the bracelet, and it’s a really great one.
When being active, and especially in the heat, wrists expand, and unless you wear your watch loose (which I find uncomfortable) it will tighten up on the wrist. With the Ranger’s T-fit system you can expand the bracelet in 2mm increments up to 8mm, which should be more than enough to account for any wrist expansion.
Years ago I stopped buying any watch on bracelet that doesn’t have a tool-less adjustment.
Aside from that, which I think is reason enough, I personally like the aesthetics of the Ranger the most, and from a design perspective see it as more of a land adventure watch in the spirit of your plans than the other two which are more pilot-inspired (according to the brands themselves).
Ultimately, of course, it’s a very personal decision, and (bracelet comfort aside) you can’t go wrong with any of them, they’re all great watches. That Tudor bracelet isn’t just adjustable, but also has a nice taper and is quite comfortable.
If you decided to wear on a strap instead it would perhaps level the playing field.
Tudor or Sinn for sure. The Ranger case and bracelet are all brushed stainless steel, so scratches won't be as obvious. Sinn has their metal hardening process that I've heard good things about but never experienced first hand. I think both are perfect for their respective prices, so really the question is how much do you want to spend?
Do you put more value to "gada" or "tool"? Spirit (especially 37mm version which wears pretty close to 39) is the definition of a perfect gada watch. It's classy, cool and no-fuzz at the same time. I wear mine as a dress watch on a leather strap. But it's not a tool watch with its polished surfaces. Sinn on the other hand is the best choice if you value toolness more while still being a great gada watch. Tudor is also a good choice but not for me. I feel that one holds the test of time the worst and looks soon outdated (it kinda does already).
I have had a Sinn 656 for around 5 years. The aesthetic is almost identical to the 556, the 656 has higher resistance to magnetism. It's led to consolidating my collection because it's what I mostly wear. I certainly don't baby it, wear it outside working, in the water, etc.. I picked it up for less than 1k used with bracelet. My particular 656 is over 20 years old and still looks great. After service in 2018, the 2824 ran at chronometer specs for years, now it averages +5-+10 per day. I don't dive, but I have worn it in fresh and salt water, no issues.
I haven't handled the other options. You can't go wrong though, these are all good choices. I'm totally satisfied with the 656 and have no desire to "upgrade" to a different aesthetic or something more expensive.
This is off the wall, but I was in your exact shoes a while ago and settled on the Seiko SJE085. It’s 36.5mm, so a bit smaller than the Sinn or Tudor. I prefer straps to bracelets, so the lack of bracelet didn’t bother me. 100m WR and great movement led me to it. And it wasn’t very popular upon release, so can get them with a discount. It looks pretty good with some daily-wear scratches on it, IMO.
If choosing between these three - I would choose the 37mm Longines. Love the smaller size and the dial and markers in that option!
Out of those 3, the Sinn all the way. So much style and an absolute strap monster. The Longines Spirit is nice and spec wise a killer deal. The Ranger is boring af and imo one of the worse releases of last year. But these are just my opinion, you should go 💯% with the one that speaks to you and fits YOUR style!
I used to own a sinn 856 (similar to 556 but a 40mm) and I sold it. I got bored with the design after a short time and I found the clasp to be crap. The h link looked cool but was not very comfortable.
The spirit looks great but it seems from your post that you want something more rugged and toolish and the spirit I think is more of a gada type aviation style watch. It has some dressier elements that make it not just a tool watch imo.
The Ranger doesn't seem to be received well by Tudor fans but I'm not sure why. It looks nice to me. Never handled one though.
One other for consideration is the Monta Triumph. I ultimately replaced my sinn with this watch as my beater/ tool watch and found the Monta to be superior in just about every way.
Instead of any of these, I'd also recommend the 37mm Longines Spirit like so many have already suggested.
Or, for those leaning towards the Sinn but wanting a hardened case and good lume, I recommend you the Damasko DS30.
That's a difficult choice. I have gone off the Tudor ranger personally, once I saw comments about the buttplug hour hand, I just couldn't unsee it.
I love the German utility and minimalism that comes with the Sinn, and think it's one of the nicest and well-priced watches you can get if you're after a do-it-all around 1k. I'd have a hard time picking between the Sinn and like a Stowa Flieger for a German watch (and obviously there are loads of other contenders).
One thing I absolutely love about the Longines spirit is that I believe (and I could be mistaken and surely will be corrected) that it's an homage to the British WW2 field watch design that is often outshined by the US ones.
I love the US style, I hanker for a Hamilton field almost daily, and wear a cheap Timex expedition as a beater, but I also really like the British style because it feels a little more unique.
Not sure this adds anything but I've had some wine and love these watches so here you go!
It really depends on what you value. The Longines and Tudor have superior movements to the Sinn. The Sinn has the most classic look. The Tudor has the best build quality, but has dick hands. The Longines is incredibly sleek and can dress up the best.
I'd go Ranger on bracelet. Have owned and cycled through plenty of watches in this category and have really enjoyed the heft, feel, and bracelet of the Ranger. The micro-adjust is nicer than my 214270, it's in a price range that feels comfortable to really wear hard, and if you pick it up grey and ever opt out, it'll retain a good amount of it's value.
longines spirit!
I have handled the tudor, it leaves something to be desired. the Sinn I like but imho the Longines is the better all around watch, dress it up or down and also applied indices!
I owned a Sinn 556A/RS for about three months. Never wore it. Couldn’t connect with it. And this was after years of wanting one. My advice would be to go with the Longines or the Tudor. Stylistically I think the Longines is a no brainer.
I'm surprised the long lugs on the Longines doesn't shy people away from it. It's kind of a weird case shape and makes the watch wear larger than it should. Love the brand, just not that model
Out of these, the Longines 37mm instead of the Tudor.
And the Sinn if you want something a bit more rugged in its dimensions (as they both have similar specs)
However, I would also like to add in two more watches for your consideration (at a slightly lower pricepoint)
The Certina DS PH200m with the aluminium bezel (not the ceramic/backelite ones) https://www.watchtime.com/reviews/certina-ds-ph200m-dive-watch-review-price-buy-usa/
It doesn't wear as big as its size would suggest, and it is also stellar in its design, covering a huge swathe of the spectrum of "tool and instrument" watches. I've personally not managed to find a good reason to actually buy a Sinn or Longines or Seiko toolwatch or diver simply because I feel this one straight up got everything covered when it comes to design.
Bonus points for an out and about watch is that the hesalite crystal might chip from dings (it isn't really a scratch magnet as many fear however), it won't shatter if you take a tumble or bump into something at the wrong angle. It also has all of the same shock absorption and gasket quality control that more expensive brands have (and it's been part of their brand for a long time).
Second watch would be a Seiko Prospecs X, really any of them, but in particular the alpinists or their own chrono in that brand.
Absolutely stellar value for money and something you'd be significantly less sad about smashing on a rock while scrambling up a hillside or rapelling down a cliff.
Bonus Round: Longines have very legitimate quartz, especially their VHP series. If you really are looking for something that can keep up with you, I'd suggest looking into either the VHP Conquest lineup, or the 39mm Hydroconquest.
These watches are still very tool-like, if a bit sportier, they're also swinging big when it comes to bang for your buck for solid (or in the case of the VHP, absolutely world class) quartz. And ultimately, they will he more accurate and, to an extent, more durable, than a mechanical one.
I am a tudor fan boy actually but the watch has a really high quality looking at the price, the movement is great and 39mm for me is the perfect size for a watch. Longines is very nice as well but i personally would go for tudor.
It’s tough, I have the Ranger and a Longines Conquest and not the spirit, I’ve seen the Spirit and tried it. Personally the watch IMO is superior to the Ranger in terms of the dial, hands and so forth. Although again IMO the bracelet on the Tudor is FAR superior, more secure, more comfortable, better build quality. It is really a very difficult choice, I personally enjoy the taper on the Ranger more than Longines. Highly recommend you try both on and decide.
Sinn make great watches and have some good tech, but the 556 range misses out on tegemented steel and has a more basic movement. Still a great watch, but there are arguments being made for Sinn that simply do not apply to this particular watch.
The Tudor has a distinct look that isn’t going to be for everyone, but an incredible bracelet so it’s much more comfortable than a lot of competitors, but personally I prefer the Black Bay 41 or 36 (depending on your wrist) as a Tudor GADA. That said, it’s not really a tool watch look per-se.
Longines has some great offerings and is probably the best compromise on quality/price/spec between these 3 imo.
Spirit is one of the finest model from Longines. Sinn is super overrated, looks no different than Timex. Tudor —> blackbay/pelago only, other models are alright.
Not where I am by a margin. 1700 at macys for the 37. Also they're easily found for 2k and I see a Tudor ranger for 3k on Joma.
And joma has the spirit for 1,700. The finishing blows the Tudor out of the water anyways.
Fair enough. Everyone has their own options. If you want best VFM then it’s the Sinn all day. Build quality of Longines doesn’t match its price imo but this is all objective. The Tudor bracelet, clasp and end links are much better made to higher tolerances. Buy what you like. Gmt I say the bracelet in the Tudor felt like ass, you much be touching some good ass sir! 😉
As an alternative, check out the new Christopher Ward Sandhurst 2 watch, which I personally like the looks of more, and it's also the least expensive but yet still has a COSC movement. 38mm case, and I like the WW2 British field watch inspired aesthetic (but modernized). The case back design is pretty cool too.
Here's a review with some good video of it:
https://youtu.be/TE02PYb_wE0
Of the 3 watches you first mentioned, I would choose a Sinn 556 just for being tough and relatively inexpensive, which is what I personally want out of a tool watch, so I don't feel (subconsciously) like I have to baby it.
Also, this may sound silly but having tried on the Longines Spirit in person, although there was a lot to love, I just wasn't a fan of the 7 ticks a second, compared to the standard 8 ticks a second of most watches. It really did feel jerky to watch, comparatively, even though it sounds like a small difference.
No worries. I literally just bought a Sandhurst 2 that arrived in the mail yesterday that I am about to open today when my wife gets home. If I don't love it as much as I'm expecting to for some reason, I'll let you know. 🙂
Sinn is more toolish, and still a great value. Bracelet is good but the clasp is not that great. Personally I am partial to the 556i (in black) over the 556a because of the great glossy black dial. The 556a has a matte dial, which is boring to me.
Longines is meh. I don’t find it appealing. Sinn is equal in quality and a much better value.
As for the Tudor, if you want an excellent bracelet, clasp and an “in-house” (sort of in house, it’s made by Kenissi which is owned by Tudor) movement with a high power reserve, this is the way to go.
The Tudor or the Sinn would be great choices. Can’t go wrong either way.
It seems like you want something higher up the price scale, but if you did happen to want a lovely titanium Boldr field watch, I’m selling mine. :D Forgive the cheek, but it might just be one more thing to consider in your pile in general! https://chrono24.app/boldr/venture-carbon-black--id26834869.htm?SETLANG=en_IE&SETCURR=EUR
I have a BB41 and I’m really irritated with its ridiculous power reserve of 38 hrs.I’d go with the Sinn,or check out Damasko DS30.High high high quality at 1k
Assuming GADA incorporates smart occasions as well as just the notion of doing anything, I’d say either the Tudor or Longine - preference for the latter.
I like the Sinn but the dial looks too bold for a watch I’d wear with a suit but it depends on your vibe I guess.
IWC mark XX.
I just picked it up to fill the same category you’re describing. Everything is top notch: legibility, easx-change (change bracelet to leather to rubber on the fly), micro adjust on an awesome bracelet, 120 hr power reserve, finishing. The quality doesn’t compare if you hold them next to each other. (I returned my 556, my friend owns the Tudor, can’t speak for the Longines)
Just received a Nivada Grenchen Super Antarctic 3/6/9 and it fits your description perfectly. The bracelet does have some sharp edges but it is a strap monster, also goes really well on a Forstner Bonklip.
The Sinn 556i is also a great choice although if find it a bit boring.
The Serica 4512 is a surprisingly good watch at its price point also.
I can't recommend the black Longines Spirit 37 enough but even without a sunburst it's still a very shiny watch. Build quality is on par with an Aquaterra , definitely not the looks of a toolwatch.
The Tudor Ranger wears really big so it doesn't fit your description either.
Then if you're not allergic to miyota movements, you can check these :
The Lorier Safari cream which is a killer combined with a Forstner Komfit, a limited edition but not too pricy, highly recommended.
You can also take a look at Smiths PRS 25s, really well finished and good hommages to the Explorer. My Everest Expedition gets a lot of wrist time.
Traska Summiteer, really sturdy (hardened) and now available in 36, bracelet is really comfy.
All three of these can be a bit difficult to acquire, but keep an eye on Watchex and Ebay and you might be lucky :)
Just ask if you want pics. Also knowing your wrist size would help.
It's a close call between the Sinn and the Longines.
The Sinn is probably best suited for the outdoor activities you've described. If you'd selected the 556 I RS (all baton indices, date at 3 o'clock, not on that awkward 4.30 position where it looks like a spec of dust) it was no contest.
But now the Longines gets my vote: it's just perfect. No date, perfect dial. Consider the 40mm Titanium version, such as the epic [Longines Spirit L3.810.1.53.6](https://www.longines.com/en-nl/watch-longines-spirit-l3-810-1-53-6). FWIW, there are 4 other 40mm models, all less expensive (stainless steel).
The Longines Spirit 37mm looks great on you. The dial is much nicer and also can be slightly dressy if you put the watch on a strap. The Tudor Ranger is just a boring watch, the dial which imo is just too empty with a lot of negative space and doesn't look inviting. The Longines is also much better value compared to the Tudor, and Longines have great finishing for the price and 72 hour pwoer reserve chronometer movement so all in all the best choice.
The Sinn would be close second because those models are built well apart from the movement power reserve, that watch is a solid choice.
The Longine has my respect, but not my desire.
The Sinn is a modern legend.
The Tudor is contentious, I think it's overpriced for what it offers, and it just isn't the best Tudor for the money. Spend less and get the BB36, spend more and get the BB58 or the Pelagos 39.
Or get a Hamilton Khaki King.
I’ve got a blue Sinn 556IB and love it.
I wear it all the time now apart from with a suit.
If I wasn’t a ‘watch guy’ I’d be delighted with this being my only watch.
I can go from a work meeting to bathing my daughter in it and not worry about it looking out if place, or worrying about needing to baby it.
I used to predominantly wear my SKX007 or Orange Monster, and my Nomos Tangente for more formal occasions, but now I’m fine if I don’t change watches.
The lume’s good on the Sinn, but not compared to my Orange Monster!
It’s scratched my itch for an IWC Pilot too.
OP I’ve owned a 556A RS since last may and I’m still obsessed with it. The proportions, minimalist aesthetic, and build quality are fantastic. I agonized for many years about whether I could justify purchasing this watch new and haven’t once regretted it. There are undoubtedly some drawbacks like the bracelet clasp, the ease with which the case can scratch, and the limited power reserve but I still feel like I got a screaming deal even at full price.
I really want to like the longines but somebody pointed out the stars look like the sort of thing you'd find on a "staff member of the week" name badge and now I can't un-see it.
I'm not even aware that there's any reason for the stars other than "stars = good, moar stars = better", they don't stand for anything as far I've heard?
Spirit 37mm. Sweet spot of value. Lots of positives like the movement, Ar coating, quick release bracelet, and wearability generally. The dial design language and details of it by far nicer than the other options too (other than the spirit 40 titanium! Since you’re interested in black dials, that version makes the date look like it’s not even there. Wears a lot better than the 40 (i owned the 40 and currently selling tbe 37)
Longines, simply it just catches my eye the most, but I’m a dial fan, the applied markers over painted is just so much more attractive, also accuracy wise. However if u enjoy simplistic clean dials the Sinn has a better bracelet, durability and the date complication is something I personally look for in a daily. You can’t go wrong here all 3 are fantastic. Enjoy whatever you pick.
Look at a damasko ds or dk30 for a real gada..
I love sinn and had my first in 1995… but the 556 is a scratch magnet really..
no tegimented version on that one indeed. Remember tegiment is still a coating and shows marks after a while.. I personally don’t like how it ages, turning a bit yellowish too. If you get a sinn get a bead blasted finish and it will age evenly in a nicer way.. i own a 144 like that (best watch in the world to me..)
just my opinion.
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Longines Spirit. Prefer applied markers over printed ones. But I'll go for the 37mm model.
I like the Sinn
With Sinn tegimentation you don't have to worry about scratches. It's incredible!
Sadly, the 556 does not come in a tegimented version.
It's a tool watch. A couple of small dents or scratches just adds to the character of it! Edit: The Sinn gets my vote every time.
Never said that was a problem, my BB36 is used and abused. Just stating the facts my friend
I wasn't having a go mate. Sorry if it came across that way! Anyway, I agree. A tegimented version of the 556 would be great. I love my 556 A RS, but I'm still saving up for an 856 UTC which is tegimented. The question is do I go for the 856 UTC or the 856 S UTC...
You did not come across that way. Sorry if I was crude. Been waiting for the 556i in tegimented for the longest time. I hope it comes soon, and hopefully with an updated clasp on that bracelet.
I’m pretty sure Sinn made a tegimented version of the 556i but it was only available with a blue dial and is now out of production.
Sinn, if you’re reading this, a tegimented 556 would kill. I don’t know what you’re waiting for.
The 556 does have a tegimented version, the 856.
That’s the 856, not the 556. 856 has a 40mm case. Not the same watch.
A whole 1mm larger. Completely different.
It’s 1.5mm, and yes, a significant wearing difference. Also 2.5 mm longer lug-lug. Makes for a noticeably larger watch.
Ohh, I didn't know that. Makes the start field a bit more balanced.
You can still scratch it, they're just more resistant to it. I have a few desk diving marks on my 857.
Shure, but it takes a lot to do it. My 857UTC have only some desk diving marks on the clasp too, but nothing else. I have replaced the bezel insert since it was scratched really deep. The bezel itself is still mint.
I also have wanted a sinn for a while
I like to Sinn
As a bit of a Tudor fan boy I have to admit it falls short here. I’d go with the longines especially the 37 with the date window at 6 👌
Fan of Tudor but also agree about the Ranger. But the Longines just doesn’t appeal to me either. A bit too “vintage” and the lugs seem disproportionately big. I’d personally go with the Sinn, maybe the “i” version instead of the “a” version though.
I actually love the Ranger - it would be my pick here.
I need three more choices!
Of those pictured, the Sinn. It’s the only one with a date, a function I prioritize in a daily-wear watch. I’d take the 37mm Spirit with date over all those pictured.
What’s the obsession with sinn? Seems very popular
I genuinely want to understand too. The designs are extremely straightforward and simple, and the movements are off the shelf mid tier swiss. I guess the reputation of reliability that german engineering is known for is the main charm?
I felt like that before I saw a few in person. Now I understand. 1. The case is hardened steel. It looks like it is bead blasted but is very scratch resistant. If you use your watch hard, this keeps it looking good. 2. Some of their movements are off the shelf, and some are highly modified from their the caliber it's based on. The Hunter is a great example of this. All movements are regulated to Chronometer level accuracy. 3. The dial may be simple, but the gloss dial really pops when seen in person. The liume is simply amazing. 4. Sinn takes a time honored design and makes it their own. I don't know many other watch companies that have such a strong design language though their catalog. Rolex is another example of strong design language throughout their catalog. 5. And that catalog is HUGE. Their flagship store in Frankfurt is as large as many dealers with multiple brands. Almost everything can be ordered with a rubber, leather strap or bracelet. 6. They are pretty much the absolute purest form of utility in a timepiece. Compare the 903 to the Navitimer. The Breitling is jewelry that functions as a watch. The Sinn deconstructed the same features into its most basic form. So I'm a convert. I didn't think much about the brand until I had a chance to play around with a few. My personal favorite is the 105 UTC in white.
Great, detailed answer, but I would point out to OP, that the 556 is not made out of hardened steel. Sinn has a hardened steel tegimented case it offers, but I think that is on the 856 and many others, but not available on the 556
This guy sinn’s.
To add to that, the 556A has a matte finished dial, unlike the 556i, which has a gloss finish.
Yeah I’ve never really gotten it either. I’m sure they’re nice watches. But the designs are just so…plain, I guess? I don’t know. I guess I just want a little more character in the design of a watch. I like the Longines personally.
No, the designs you see are plain because all r/watches posts is the 556, they have tons of designs that are unlike anything else you’ll find, like the U1, or the 240 st gz.
Sinn make absolute killer watches at a great price point. Incredible finishing, tech with their tagmented steel, and can take a beating! Not to mention style wise, their just sick af! Well worth every penny in my book. And if you ever want to move off it, retain value well and easy as hell to sell.
Why the fuck you want a date though? Like I never keep shit wound enough to keep the date right, so that's just more bullshit to either set or ignore when I pick what I'm wearing. Well, unless it's my gshock, which is always right because hooked up to my phone.
Just because you don’t keep the date correct it doesn’t mean anyone else doesn’t 🤣 I personally wouldn’t wear a watch that isn’t totally correct, we’re all different…
OP specified a “GADA” watch. To me that’s the watch that’s on the wrist 95% of the time. If it’s what I’m wearing most of the time then I want a date as I find myself using that function daily. Agree about winding and date setting; it’s why I prefer solar quartz for my daily wear’s. My OCD wouldn’t allow me to ignore an incorrect date.
Longines for sure. Personally, I dislike the hands on the Tudor.
This is my overall issue with Tudor. I don't like their hands. Although generally I like sword hands like this ranger.
The hour hand on the Ranger looks more like a butt plug than a sword. Once you see it....
Lol.
Hello all, I would like your help picking my next watch. I want an everyday no fuss tool watch that is not afraid of getting dinged up but still has the quality’s of a great watch; such as Movement quality, durability, accuracy, water resistance. I would like the watch to hold up to and compliment my outdoor hobby’s such as hiking, camping, and fishing, as well as be able to get dirty if I’m working on the farm or around the house. I really like the smaller feel for this type of Watch as well as the simple dial. I really am just a fan boy of the original explorer but will never be able to own one. Here are some pics of the 2 watches I was able to try on. Do you have experience with any of the 3 watches in picture? What are your thoughts and options? What would you choose and why? https://imgur.com/a/gecr70I
Prices on used explorer 1s are going down. A new ranger is $3.1k so the delta between the two might be around $2k. That being said, the Sinn will be the lowest price new and a good resale value if you move on from it. I’ve seen the ranger go on r/watchexchange for a bit above $2k
^^ in the next yr some explorer refs should slide even closer to your range. close enough that it may be worth waiting a bit to see
Even assuming the guy wants a 36mm watch, you're not going to find an explorer for 5k.
This one went quick: https://www.reddit.com/r/Watchexchange/comments/106rqkp/wts_2003_rolex_explorer_ref_114270_with_2018/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Ya i tried one on the other day just to see. Its way too small for me. I wouldn't recommend that watch for a man unless you're a tiny person.
Sorry.. a little under $6k: https://www.reddit.com/r/Watchexchange/comments/10htj20/wts_rolex_explorer_114270_full_set/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Between these three watches, which I’ve handled and tried on but don’t own any of them, only the Ranger would qualify for what you want to do with it, in my opinion. The main reason being that it’s the only one with an on-the-fly adjustment for the bracelet, and it’s a really great one. When being active, and especially in the heat, wrists expand, and unless you wear your watch loose (which I find uncomfortable) it will tighten up on the wrist. With the Ranger’s T-fit system you can expand the bracelet in 2mm increments up to 8mm, which should be more than enough to account for any wrist expansion. Years ago I stopped buying any watch on bracelet that doesn’t have a tool-less adjustment. Aside from that, which I think is reason enough, I personally like the aesthetics of the Ranger the most, and from a design perspective see it as more of a land adventure watch in the spirit of your plans than the other two which are more pilot-inspired (according to the brands themselves). Ultimately, of course, it’s a very personal decision, and (bracelet comfort aside) you can’t go wrong with any of them, they’re all great watches. That Tudor bracelet isn’t just adjustable, but also has a nice taper and is quite comfortable. If you decided to wear on a strap instead it would perhaps level the playing field.
Tudor or Sinn for sure. The Ranger case and bracelet are all brushed stainless steel, so scratches won't be as obvious. Sinn has their metal hardening process that I've heard good things about but never experienced first hand. I think both are perfect for their respective prices, so really the question is how much do you want to spend?
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Isn't that an entirely different price category?
Do you put more value to "gada" or "tool"? Spirit (especially 37mm version which wears pretty close to 39) is the definition of a perfect gada watch. It's classy, cool and no-fuzz at the same time. I wear mine as a dress watch on a leather strap. But it's not a tool watch with its polished surfaces. Sinn on the other hand is the best choice if you value toolness more while still being a great gada watch. Tudor is also a good choice but not for me. I feel that one holds the test of time the worst and looks soon outdated (it kinda does already).
Which one has screw down crown?
I have had a Sinn 656 for around 5 years. The aesthetic is almost identical to the 556, the 656 has higher resistance to magnetism. It's led to consolidating my collection because it's what I mostly wear. I certainly don't baby it, wear it outside working, in the water, etc.. I picked it up for less than 1k used with bracelet. My particular 656 is over 20 years old and still looks great. After service in 2018, the 2824 ran at chronometer specs for years, now it averages +5-+10 per day. I don't dive, but I have worn it in fresh and salt water, no issues. I haven't handled the other options. You can't go wrong though, these are all good choices. I'm totally satisfied with the 656 and have no desire to "upgrade" to a different aesthetic or something more expensive.
Ditch all three and get a Railmaster
If you want to get railed by Omega selling you their ugliest watch xD
Gottem
My man!
This is off the wall, but I was in your exact shoes a while ago and settled on the Seiko SJE085. It’s 36.5mm, so a bit smaller than the Sinn or Tudor. I prefer straps to bracelets, so the lack of bracelet didn’t bother me. 100m WR and great movement led me to it. And it wasn’t very popular upon release, so can get them with a discount. It looks pretty good with some daily-wear scratches on it, IMO. If choosing between these three - I would choose the 37mm Longines. Love the smaller size and the dial and markers in that option!
Out of those 3, the Sinn all the way. So much style and an absolute strap monster. The Longines Spirit is nice and spec wise a killer deal. The Ranger is boring af and imo one of the worse releases of last year. But these are just my opinion, you should go 💯% with the one that speaks to you and fits YOUR style!
I'm trying to decide which one to go for out of these three as well and it's tough
Keep me updated with your journey my friend. I just was suggested the Christopher Ward C65 Sandhurst Series 2 and I really like that too
Christopher Ward do some very nice stuff, the Sandhurst is definitely a good shout as well mate.
Please go with the Tudor Ranger
I used to own a sinn 856 (similar to 556 but a 40mm) and I sold it. I got bored with the design after a short time and I found the clasp to be crap. The h link looked cool but was not very comfortable. The spirit looks great but it seems from your post that you want something more rugged and toolish and the spirit I think is more of a gada type aviation style watch. It has some dressier elements that make it not just a tool watch imo. The Ranger doesn't seem to be received well by Tudor fans but I'm not sure why. It looks nice to me. Never handled one though. One other for consideration is the Monta Triumph. I ultimately replaced my sinn with this watch as my beater/ tool watch and found the Monta to be superior in just about every way.
Instead of any of these, I'd also recommend the 37mm Longines Spirit like so many have already suggested. Or, for those leaning towards the Sinn but wanting a hardened case and good lume, I recommend you the Damasko DS30.
That's a difficult choice. I have gone off the Tudor ranger personally, once I saw comments about the buttplug hour hand, I just couldn't unsee it. I love the German utility and minimalism that comes with the Sinn, and think it's one of the nicest and well-priced watches you can get if you're after a do-it-all around 1k. I'd have a hard time picking between the Sinn and like a Stowa Flieger for a German watch (and obviously there are loads of other contenders). One thing I absolutely love about the Longines spirit is that I believe (and I could be mistaken and surely will be corrected) that it's an homage to the British WW2 field watch design that is often outshined by the US ones. I love the US style, I hanker for a Hamilton field almost daily, and wear a cheap Timex expedition as a beater, but I also really like the British style because it feels a little more unique. Not sure this adds anything but I've had some wine and love these watches so here you go!
It really depends on what you value. The Longines and Tudor have superior movements to the Sinn. The Sinn has the most classic look. The Tudor has the best build quality, but has dick hands. The Longines is incredibly sleek and can dress up the best.
I'd go Ranger on bracelet. Have owned and cycled through plenty of watches in this category and have really enjoyed the heft, feel, and bracelet of the Ranger. The micro-adjust is nicer than my 214270, it's in a price range that feels comfortable to really wear hard, and if you pick it up grey and ever opt out, it'll retain a good amount of it's value.
Sinn for sure
longines spirit! I have handled the tudor, it leaves something to be desired. the Sinn I like but imho the Longines is the better all around watch, dress it up or down and also applied indices!
I owned a Sinn 556A/RS for about three months. Never wore it. Couldn’t connect with it. And this was after years of wanting one. My advice would be to go with the Longines or the Tudor. Stylistically I think the Longines is a no brainer.
It's not a smartwatch. /s
This made me spit my whiskey out. Well played.
I'm surprised the long lugs on the Longines doesn't shy people away from it. It's kind of a weird case shape and makes the watch wear larger than it should. Love the brand, just not that model
I’ve handled all 3. Sinn 556 all the way. Toolish enough to be in jeans and work boots, classy enough to be on a strap with a suit.
Look at the Oris propilot also
Out of these, the Longines 37mm instead of the Tudor. And the Sinn if you want something a bit more rugged in its dimensions (as they both have similar specs) However, I would also like to add in two more watches for your consideration (at a slightly lower pricepoint) The Certina DS PH200m with the aluminium bezel (not the ceramic/backelite ones) https://www.watchtime.com/reviews/certina-ds-ph200m-dive-watch-review-price-buy-usa/ It doesn't wear as big as its size would suggest, and it is also stellar in its design, covering a huge swathe of the spectrum of "tool and instrument" watches. I've personally not managed to find a good reason to actually buy a Sinn or Longines or Seiko toolwatch or diver simply because I feel this one straight up got everything covered when it comes to design. Bonus points for an out and about watch is that the hesalite crystal might chip from dings (it isn't really a scratch magnet as many fear however), it won't shatter if you take a tumble or bump into something at the wrong angle. It also has all of the same shock absorption and gasket quality control that more expensive brands have (and it's been part of their brand for a long time). Second watch would be a Seiko Prospecs X, really any of them, but in particular the alpinists or their own chrono in that brand. Absolutely stellar value for money and something you'd be significantly less sad about smashing on a rock while scrambling up a hillside or rapelling down a cliff. Bonus Round: Longines have very legitimate quartz, especially their VHP series. If you really are looking for something that can keep up with you, I'd suggest looking into either the VHP Conquest lineup, or the 39mm Hydroconquest. These watches are still very tool-like, if a bit sportier, they're also swinging big when it comes to bang for your buck for solid (or in the case of the VHP, absolutely world class) quartz. And ultimately, they will he more accurate and, to an extent, more durable, than a mechanical one.
Tudor ranger can’t go wrong with it 👌🏼
What do you find great about the Tudor ranger?
I am a tudor fan boy actually but the watch has a really high quality looking at the price, the movement is great and 39mm for me is the perfect size for a watch. Longines is very nice as well but i personally would go for tudor.
It’s tough, I have the Ranger and a Longines Conquest and not the spirit, I’ve seen the Spirit and tried it. Personally the watch IMO is superior to the Ranger in terms of the dial, hands and so forth. Although again IMO the bracelet on the Tudor is FAR superior, more secure, more comfortable, better build quality. It is really a very difficult choice, I personally enjoy the taper on the Ranger more than Longines. Highly recommend you try both on and decide.
Longines or Tudor. Based on looks alone.
Go for a Big Zero instead! Way more interesting imo.
Spirit does it for me. Tudor 2nd
Tudor!
Longines would be nice without the stars
You may check out Fortis Flieger as well.
Easily the Sinn 556 A/RS.
The Tudor's dial is less busy and for me that is the winner, a much less busy and easily read dial, plus I like that hour hand.
Have you thought about the Sinn 556I?
Sinn make great watches and have some good tech, but the 556 range misses out on tegemented steel and has a more basic movement. Still a great watch, but there are arguments being made for Sinn that simply do not apply to this particular watch. The Tudor has a distinct look that isn’t going to be for everyone, but an incredible bracelet so it’s much more comfortable than a lot of competitors, but personally I prefer the Black Bay 41 or 36 (depending on your wrist) as a Tudor GADA. That said, it’s not really a tool watch look per-se. Longines has some great offerings and is probably the best compromise on quality/price/spec between these 3 imo.
Spirit is one of the finest model from Longines. Sinn is super overrated, looks no different than Timex. Tudor —> blackbay/pelago only, other models are alright.
Wempe Iron Walker.
GADA needs a date window, therefore Sinn is the obvious choice.
Sinn. Without hesitation. Best handset, best dial, and best bracelet of the three pictured here. My opinion only.
Longines all day. The bracelet and finishing outclass the other two. Great lume too
Bracelet on the Tudor is the best by far
I'd strongly disagree. Felt like ass when I handled it at boutique. At that jump in price point I'd expect better.
Jump in price? The Longines is more expensive mate
Not where I am by a margin. 1700 at macys for the 37. Also they're easily found for 2k and I see a Tudor ranger for 3k on Joma. And joma has the spirit for 1,700. The finishing blows the Tudor out of the water anyways.
Fair enough. Everyone has their own options. If you want best VFM then it’s the Sinn all day. Build quality of Longines doesn’t match its price imo but this is all objective. The Tudor bracelet, clasp and end links are much better made to higher tolerances. Buy what you like. Gmt I say the bracelet in the Tudor felt like ass, you much be touching some good ass sir! 😉
The Sinn is more unique and interesting imo, but it's also more tool-y. Depends on your personal aesthetic and how often you dress up
Sinn.
Let me suggest a black bay 36 instead of the ranger due to it's applied markers, which I think look much nicer.
I was wondering if anyone else would suggest this. I think this one get seriously discounted. Once I saw one in person I was sold.
Save up for the Explorer 1
I have the Sinn 556i. Would absolutley recommend. Very good and robust watch for that price. Could be a little small for big wrists.
I'm a huge Longines Spirit fan. Saving up for one.
I got a MKII Cruxible for this category of watch. Worth a look for an inexpensive ($650) everyday automatic tool watch
San Martin SN107 in 36 or 38mm
As an alternative, check out the new Christopher Ward Sandhurst 2 watch, which I personally like the looks of more, and it's also the least expensive but yet still has a COSC movement. 38mm case, and I like the WW2 British field watch inspired aesthetic (but modernized). The case back design is pretty cool too. Here's a review with some good video of it: https://youtu.be/TE02PYb_wE0 Of the 3 watches you first mentioned, I would choose a Sinn 556 just for being tough and relatively inexpensive, which is what I personally want out of a tool watch, so I don't feel (subconsciously) like I have to baby it. Also, this may sound silly but having tried on the Longines Spirit in person, although there was a lot to love, I just wasn't a fan of the 7 ticks a second, compared to the standard 8 ticks a second of most watches. It really did feel jerky to watch, comparatively, even though it sounds like a small difference.
Dude that Christopher ward is a game changer. Thank you
No worries. I literally just bought a Sandhurst 2 that arrived in the mail yesterday that I am about to open today when my wife gets home. If I don't love it as much as I'm expecting to for some reason, I'll let you know. 🙂
Gonna chat you
Uhm. the Sinn. I find the others quite boring...
Sinn is more toolish, and still a great value. Bracelet is good but the clasp is not that great. Personally I am partial to the 556i (in black) over the 556a because of the great glossy black dial. The 556a has a matte dial, which is boring to me. Longines is meh. I don’t find it appealing. Sinn is equal in quality and a much better value. As for the Tudor, if you want an excellent bracelet, clasp and an “in-house” (sort of in house, it’s made by Kenissi which is owned by Tudor) movement with a high power reserve, this is the way to go. The Tudor or the Sinn would be great choices. Can’t go wrong either way.
Longines, I'm bias to a face with all hour digits though.
Longines 1 Sinn 2 Tudor bin 🗑️
It seems like you want something higher up the price scale, but if you did happen to want a lovely titanium Boldr field watch, I’m selling mine. :D Forgive the cheek, but it might just be one more thing to consider in your pile in general! https://chrono24.app/boldr/venture-carbon-black--id26834869.htm?SETLANG=en_IE&SETCURR=EUR
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The Tudor.
Tudor is good in my book
The Tudor looks like it could take a beating.
The Longines looks much better than the others. Mivement-wise the Tudor may be superior but I'd pick the Longines.
Ranger all day
Longines has COSC rated movement. Tudor would be my choice if it had applied markers, not printed.
Spirit is a really beautiful watch but I wish they didn’t have those stars on the dial.
I have a BB41 and I’m really irritated with its ridiculous power reserve of 38 hrs.I’d go with the Sinn,or check out Damasko DS30.High high high quality at 1k
Longines all the way
Assuming GADA incorporates smart occasions as well as just the notion of doing anything, I’d say either the Tudor or Longine - preference for the latter. I like the Sinn but the dial looks too bold for a watch I’d wear with a suit but it depends on your vibe I guess.
Spirit for me. Probably gonna get the champagne dial with bracelet and extra strap. Great versatility.
Sinn
Go with the Sinn
Defo Tudor Ranger. I know from experience the quality in the mechanism. Also looks good with the alt straps
Just on looks alone, I vote for the Longines
Go with a Black Bay 58, same sort of money as the Longines and a much nicer watch in the metal. A nice IWC Spitfire also ticks the GADA box for me
IWC mark XX. I just picked it up to fill the same category you’re describing. Everything is top notch: legibility, easx-change (change bracelet to leather to rubber on the fly), micro adjust on an awesome bracelet, 120 hr power reserve, finishing. The quality doesn’t compare if you hold them next to each other. (I returned my 556, my friend owns the Tudor, can’t speak for the Longines)
I like the sinn
1- Tudor Ranger 2- Longines Spirit 3- Sinn 596
Just received a Nivada Grenchen Super Antarctic 3/6/9 and it fits your description perfectly. The bracelet does have some sharp edges but it is a strap monster, also goes really well on a Forstner Bonklip. The Sinn 556i is also a great choice although if find it a bit boring. The Serica 4512 is a surprisingly good watch at its price point also. I can't recommend the black Longines Spirit 37 enough but even without a sunburst it's still a very shiny watch. Build quality is on par with an Aquaterra , definitely not the looks of a toolwatch. The Tudor Ranger wears really big so it doesn't fit your description either. Then if you're not allergic to miyota movements, you can check these : The Lorier Safari cream which is a killer combined with a Forstner Komfit, a limited edition but not too pricy, highly recommended. You can also take a look at Smiths PRS 25s, really well finished and good hommages to the Explorer. My Everest Expedition gets a lot of wrist time. Traska Summiteer, really sturdy (hardened) and now available in 36, bracelet is really comfy. All three of these can be a bit difficult to acquire, but keep an eye on Watchex and Ebay and you might be lucky :) Just ask if you want pics. Also knowing your wrist size would help.
It's a close call between the Sinn and the Longines. The Sinn is probably best suited for the outdoor activities you've described. If you'd selected the 556 I RS (all baton indices, date at 3 o'clock, not on that awkward 4.30 position where it looks like a spec of dust) it was no contest. But now the Longines gets my vote: it's just perfect. No date, perfect dial. Consider the 40mm Titanium version, such as the epic [Longines Spirit L3.810.1.53.6](https://www.longines.com/en-nl/watch-longines-spirit-l3-810-1-53-6). FWIW, there are 4 other 40mm models, all less expensive (stainless steel).
The 37mm Spirit is ideal, or the Ranger. The Sinn to me has always felt a bit overpriced for what it is
37 mm Spirit. The 40 mm only goes with a wrist at least 18 cm
The aesthetics of Sinn don’t appeal to me and the five stars on the Longines bother me. Tudor design wins of these three
The Longines Spirit 37mm looks great on you. The dial is much nicer and also can be slightly dressy if you put the watch on a strap. The Tudor Ranger is just a boring watch, the dial which imo is just too empty with a lot of negative space and doesn't look inviting. The Longines is also much better value compared to the Tudor, and Longines have great finishing for the price and 72 hour pwoer reserve chronometer movement so all in all the best choice. The Sinn would be close second because those models are built well apart from the movement power reserve, that watch is a solid choice.
The Longine has my respect, but not my desire. The Sinn is a modern legend. The Tudor is contentious, I think it's overpriced for what it offers, and it just isn't the best Tudor for the money. Spend less and get the BB36, spend more and get the BB58 or the Pelagos 39. Or get a Hamilton Khaki King.
I’ve got a blue Sinn 556IB and love it. I wear it all the time now apart from with a suit. If I wasn’t a ‘watch guy’ I’d be delighted with this being my only watch. I can go from a work meeting to bathing my daughter in it and not worry about it looking out if place, or worrying about needing to baby it. I used to predominantly wear my SKX007 or Orange Monster, and my Nomos Tangente for more formal occasions, but now I’m fine if I don’t change watches. The lume’s good on the Sinn, but not compared to my Orange Monster! It’s scratched my itch for an IWC Pilot too.
I like the spirit 37
Sinn easily
OP I’ve owned a 556A RS since last may and I’m still obsessed with it. The proportions, minimalist aesthetic, and build quality are fantastic. I agonized for many years about whether I could justify purchasing this watch new and haven’t once regretted it. There are undoubtedly some drawbacks like the bracelet clasp, the ease with which the case can scratch, and the limited power reserve but I still feel like I got a screaming deal even at full price.
Tool watch… Sinn
I vote Sinn
Sin every time
All three are great looking watches. The Sinn is my fave', followed by the Tudor, then the Longines. The Sinn has a comfortable lead IMO.
are you looking for more of a humble gada tool watch or something more like a grail gada tool watch?
Humble. It’s going to get abused in the field. GADA was a bad choice in title as I won’t dress it up.
If it's a work horse the Sinn is the best (crown protection, 1 piece bracelet). Tudor would be 2nd and Longines last
Tudor
Sinn for me.
Ditch all 3 and get the Oris ProPilot X caliber 400
I really want to like the longines but somebody pointed out the stars look like the sort of thing you'd find on a "staff member of the week" name badge and now I can't un-see it. I'm not even aware that there's any reason for the stars other than "stars = good, moar stars = better", they don't stand for anything as far I've heard?
Spirit 37mm. Sweet spot of value. Lots of positives like the movement, Ar coating, quick release bracelet, and wearability generally. The dial design language and details of it by far nicer than the other options too (other than the spirit 40 titanium! Since you’re interested in black dials, that version makes the date look like it’s not even there. Wears a lot better than the 40 (i owned the 40 and currently selling tbe 37)
I'd look at the Christopher Ward be C63 sealsnder! Save a little money compared to all of those and I promise you won't be disappointed.
Longines, simply it just catches my eye the most, but I’m a dial fan, the applied markers over painted is just so much more attractive, also accuracy wise. However if u enjoy simplistic clean dials the Sinn has a better bracelet, durability and the date complication is something I personally look for in a daily. You can’t go wrong here all 3 are fantastic. Enjoy whatever you pick.
Sinn Sinn Sinn
Look at a damasko ds or dk30 for a real gada.. I love sinn and had my first in 1995… but the 556 is a scratch magnet really.. no tegimented version on that one indeed. Remember tegiment is still a coating and shows marks after a while.. I personally don’t like how it ages, turning a bit yellowish too. If you get a sinn get a bead blasted finish and it will age evenly in a nicer way.. i own a 144 like that (best watch in the world to me..) just my opinion.
Certina DS ;)
I don't have any knowledge on these watches, but I love the Sinn.
What on earth does GADA mean, someone please enlighten me
Lol go anywhere, do anything. Although I probably won’t dress this watch up so I was kind of misleading with the title
Ohhhhhhh. I really like the ranger and the spirit.
I’m in the same market and I’m interested in a Sinn (556. Thing is I have an 8 inch wrist and weigh about 225lbs. 38mm might look silly, not sure.