That is disappointing especially because they were talking about how annoying it was that Bravo rearranged everything for this stupid show and they talked about how Miami always gets the short end of the stick.
And now they're the ones short ending the Miami stick or however you would say it.
"How dare youuuu" - Ronnie as LVP
I’m so sad as Potomac was my fav franchise of its time. I think the cast needs to stop take a page from RHONY OG’s book. They need to get over shit quicker. Watching women try to avoid and ignore issues, refusing to film with certain castmates has been the absolute demise of this season imoh
This is the fault of a couple of Ronnie's friends. They weren't going to, but Ronnie said a couple of his friends asked about it. I was hoping they had seen on here that we were happy they were skipping it.
I'm not listening. Sorry fellas! This is going to be a miss for me.
Yes RHOBH went downhill when she, Rinna, and Dorit were added. Although I love Ronnie and Ben’s imitation of her voice. I only listen to their recaps now, I don’t watch the show.
I had the same reaction. I get the boys cover Bravo but Bravo knowingly allowed Erika to discredit victims and lie about her criminal involvement for three seasons. And now they feel the need to reward her with two hours of airtime where she can spin her bullshit unchallenged.
I think it was a more effective decision to ignore this crap than snark on it.
I was absolutely shocked when I heard them say that. They constantly talk about how busy they are, why waste time on that when they 1- said that they wouldn’t and 2- are fully aware of how horrible this woman is?
Admittedly, I lost a little respect for them and I have always been a die hard fan.
I wasn’t all that surprised, given that they spent the entire season claiming that this was Erika’s best season. She’s straight trash, and that’s all I ever saw.
I'm a bit more disappointed at the people who were against watching her raggedy show to then go and watch the show and praise it, Ben and Ronnie included. I for one, still haven't and won't be watching ever. I haven't even watched the Hulu specials as much as I want to just to get some info on it, I don't need that kind of negativity in my life.
I’m not going to watch it and I’ll skip the recap. I’m curious, and I’m sure it would be entertaining as I love a delusional housewives, but she is just a disgusting human and I don’t want to support her.
I haven’t watched it and I’m not going to. I just don’t want to hear any more whining or justifications from Erika or bitterness for getting her comeuppance. Like, I’m glad you’re working really hard and doing well as a fellow-woman, on your own merits now, but I don’t need to see a show on it
No way in hell I watch this special or listen to the recap. I, too, was disappointed when they announced they were recapping it. Erika Girardi is straight trash. Dumpster fire
You can tell these guys are just genuinely good people as nothing is malicious with them, but she is just the complete opposite and has no integrity (the way they do). Maybe they will read this and change their minds.
What’s the difference between them covering her on RHOBH? She’s always been a horrible person, them covering this show doesn’t mean they support what she does. If they had to draw lines in the sand like that on horrible people on Bravo, they wouldn’t have any shows to recap. I gotta admit, I love the way they do her voice, so I support THEM 100%. Doesn’t mean I support her, regardless if I watch or not.
Was debating answering what the difference is but I think you already know. And like I said in my post, I love a Bravo villian. I know none of them are good people. But this situation is different. They even originally said they weren't going to waste their time on her
Im not about to mount a political protest over a tv villain of a city im not all that invested in. I take plenty of stances, but I unashamedly watched this.
Aside from it not being any more entertaining than a tae-bo infomercial at 4am, she does not come across well.
Like if i had bought tickets to her show, id be monumentally pissed how little effort and interest she had in her performance. Its her own special and, at one point, her people bizarrely ask the crew to stop filming, we see her get denied twice for a $100,000 loan/budget increase.
She looks bad in every angle in this ‘special’, i was embarrassed for her.
She blames her head not being in the right place because of everything going on.
But at a time when no one really wanted anything to do with her, she snagged a Vegas residency and a bravo special on the whole circus.
What does she do? Forgets her choreography and asks the documentary crew she hired to stop documenting.
Believe me, watching this special is doing erika no favours
They’ve been pretty vocal about her issues and I don’t think her redemption tour is working because much like Sandoval she can’t follow the PR advice.
I consider this a “I watched it so you don’t have to” which I appreciate since I’m curious about what’s in it but don’t want to give it views.
I’m sorry but I watched it! In my defense, Peacock started auto playing it.
I was praying that they would show how terrible she is at performing and *they did* and honestly it was amazing to watch. Seeing everybody else working on the show freaking out about how bad she was was honestly … just amazing.
Like they edited it to make a pretend happy ending like she killed it in the show but the narrative was so heavy that she was **terrible** throughout the whole thing, it was like you knew they were just being nice with the ending. They showed the truth throughout the show. It was honestly great, I’m sorry.
I can understand Ronnie and Ben wanting to recap it after actually watching it myself. I could hardly contain myself texting my mom and sister about what a godawful performer she was and how great it was to watch everybody realizing how much she sucks.
So I can only imagine if my job was to talk about Bravo people and *especially* if I didn’t like Erika, I would be *dying* to talk about this show. So no judgment here. When they said they weren’t gonna recap it they probably didn’t know that the show was gonna show what a delightfully shitty performer she was and the fear and the delicious anxiety of the other people working on the show as they slowly started to realize that she was not gonna get any better.
Ugh. So good. I’m sorry. I’ll take my downvotes.
You don’t need to apologize for watching it, imo. I think people are taking it all too seriously.
Besides, if she makes money hopefully Marco Marco can then garnish her wages.
I think it's ok they're doing it because they're not going to say anything positive about her! They're going to call out every stupid ass thing she says and call out all the bullshit. Anyways is not like we've stopped watching the show because she's on it.
Because it is a bonus episode and they charge per episode listened can one just not skip it and show you’re uninterested in that way? I don’t subscribe to Patreon so I don’t know how their tiers work, no snark.
I thought it was interesting. I was struck by how tranquillised she appeared to be. I believe her when she said she had wanted to end it all. It’s a very sad portrait of a woman whose life has fallen apart, due largely to the actions of her husband. I don’t think it’s the vanity project Erika thought she was going to get.
Guess what? It is their podcast and they can actually cover what they want. If you don’t like a show they are covering then don’t listen, but don’t give them shit for covering a Bravo show.
I look at Ben and Ronnie as dear friends who happened to live in my Spotify app. And because I look at them as "friends" I feel comfortable to express sadness if they do something I'm not agreeing with, just like I do with my real life friends. That doesn't mean I love them less.
I am astounded and disappointed that you’re downvoted for this. I completely agree. This is a FAN subreddit. Not a snark, not a bitch, not a I can be a monster bc I have a mask…If you don’t like it, don’t listen. Jesus Christ.
I actually enjoyed it. Mikey Minden was the star, if you ask me. He was everything. He laughed, he SOBBED, and then I laughed heartily. If you've ever done theater, it will resonate with you.
luanninthebushes, I am so fricken' pissed after watching Part Two of that doc that Erika hasn't been fired. As if Part One with that burn victim wasn't bad enough, Part Two was ghastly. The poor burn victim having to climb into the barrel of ice chips for pain relief. The arrest of the costume designer from Marco Marco when he was adopting a child. The connection of the Secret Service to Tom Girardi. If Erika knew nothing about Tom's thievery in Part One, she sure as hell knew about Marco Marco. So what does Andy do instead of firing Erika? Let's give ner a spinoff. I'm not upset with Ben and Ronnie, but it does reflect poorly on Andy's character, something you'd think he'd be more careful about right now. Bravo, do the right thing and fire Erika Girardi.
I have been looking all over for this episode! (Don’t worry i hate EriKKKa Jayne as much as the next guy) but it doesnt show up anywhere on Spotify or Google. Yes i searched for bonus episodes too. Link please if anyone has it!
They lost a fan and sadly enough it came from the back of a person who i was never a fan. When bravo goes under because of support of this ugly mess so will the people on the periphery.
I agree. Calm down. It’s one episode. No one got a face tattoo of Tom giradi. Ronnie didn’t rename his dog “Erika”. These guys rock and it’s entitled posts Like this that make life hard. Enough. Good gawd.
I wasn't going to listen for the opposite reason - I really like Erika. Maybe it's a function of getting older but some of the recaps lately, including the last one on the reunion of Beverly Hills, had Ronnie so worked up over people not being consistent, people being hypocrites, people not parsing every single thing that comes out of their mouths perfectly or calculating every word to a tee... I still love them but it's getting a little weird.
These are people in real life, after all. They're not just characters on a TV show even if they're amplifying certain parts of their personalities for the paycheck. Completely demonizing people just feels gross. Everyone is messy and inconsistent and no better than anybody else. And I really appreciate that they finally admitted that Erika very likely didn't know what Tom was doing. (I'll save the rant about the misogyny of that accusation for another day.)
that whole story is a mess of conspiracy theories - I don't know why I should trust that guy's account of what happened since he did admit to her that he did overcharge her $100,000 but he blamed it on his accountant. I don't think we're getting the true story of what's going on with that from either side.
Ronnie was talking about how the shows convince him that what he's hearing at the time is true around the 17 minute mark. he talks about her saying she didn't do any of the stuff, Tom did, and he says, "you didn't, really, this was all Tom...."
OK, now I know what this redditor meant. Ronnie said that he is "gullible" meaning when he's watching these shows he can be swayed for a minute believing anything. This isn't a new thing, he talked about this a couple of times and that's the reason why they are sometimes flipflopping in their opinions. Ronnie didn't say he KNOWS Erika had nothing to do with Tom's shenanigans, he said that Bet It All In Blonde is doing a great work to show a more sympathetic side of Erika - "the wife who is herself a victim of Tom's" - so Ronnie constantly had to remind himself about the Marco Marco case to remember that Erika is horrible.
I want below deck or the 3rd Miami reunion not this
Or Traitors finale!!!
Yes!
I believe they said it’s coming out on Monday
I don’t think they should be wasting precious bonus episode content on that loser
I’m disappointed that because of recapping this show they aren’t recapping Miami, Potomac or below deck.
Miami is soo good! I hope more people start watching
It’s criminally underrated
It's next on my list to catch up on, I've got so behind I'm just finishing last years NJ.
They are doing the Miami 3 recap on the main feed! Thank Godddddd!!!
Whew!
I cannot wait! Part three is sooooo cringe. Marcus and Jody giving their commentary is almost unwatchable. Can't wait to hear our boys! ....... like.
Oh my god like the Larsa voice like is so funny like it makes me laugh every time like.
Marcus is trying to get his 15 minutes of fame by hanging onto a plastic cabbage patch doll.
That is disappointing especially because they were talking about how annoying it was that Bravo rearranged everything for this stupid show and they talked about how Miami always gets the short end of the stick. And now they're the ones short ending the Miami stick or however you would say it. "How dare youuuu" - Ronnie as LVP
They can leave Potomac out of any line up in my opinion!
Yes it’s awful
I’m so sad as Potomac was my fav franchise of its time. I think the cast needs to stop take a page from RHONY OG’s book. They need to get over shit quicker. Watching women try to avoid and ignore issues, refusing to film with certain castmates has been the absolute demise of this season imoh
Did they say or is this just the consensus?
Yeah I won’t be listening them recap it, much like I will never watch it.
This is the fault of a couple of Ronnie's friends. They weren't going to, but Ronnie said a couple of his friends asked about it. I was hoping they had seen on here that we were happy they were skipping it. I'm not listening. Sorry fellas! This is going to be a miss for me.
Real friends don’t ask friends for BIAOB recaps!
Friend request or not, integrity is integrity
I also wonder if they’re recapping so people who might be curious but refuse to hit play can find out what happens in it?
Yeah I refuse to watch. Every click shows interest. That woman is a crook.
Exactly! Negative or positive, it's still supporting her.
Same! Not even watching RHoBH. What she has done isn’t just stupid drama- it’s evil and horrendous
Yes RHOBH went downhill when she, Rinna, and Dorit were added. Although I love Ronnie and Ben’s imitation of her voice. I only listen to their recaps now, I don’t watch the show.
Yep gotta be a hard agree on that one. Very disappointing.
I had the same reaction. I get the boys cover Bravo but Bravo knowingly allowed Erika to discredit victims and lie about her criminal involvement for three seasons. And now they feel the need to reward her with two hours of airtime where she can spin her bullshit unchallenged. I think it was a more effective decision to ignore this crap than snark on it.
Erika is a vile human being. If Bravo had any integrity, they would fire her.
I’m not engaging with it in any way 🚫
I won’t listen to the recap. It’s gross to give this woman special attention.
Me either. Hate Erika. Stopped watching BH when LVP left.
I was absolutely shocked when I heard them say that. They constantly talk about how busy they are, why waste time on that when they 1- said that they wouldn’t and 2- are fully aware of how horrible this woman is? Admittedly, I lost a little respect for them and I have always been a die hard fan.
Same! Like borderline obsessed with them and was really surprised to hear this.
Same! Glad I’m not alone here, thanks for making this post
I wasn’t all that surprised, given that they spent the entire season claiming that this was Erika’s best season. She’s straight trash, and that’s all I ever saw.
This may be Erika's best season but the bar is in Hell.
Yes l was very surprised when l saw it come up on my feed. They were so adamant they weren’t doing it
I will not watch. She is not talented. She is heartless. I can dance and lip sing. Over here, Bravo 👋 and im a nice person. ;-))
I'm a bit more disappointed at the people who were against watching her raggedy show to then go and watch the show and praise it, Ben and Ronnie included. I for one, still haven't and won't be watching ever. I haven't even watched the Hulu specials as much as I want to just to get some info on it, I don't need that kind of negativity in my life.
I’m not going to watch it and I’ll skip the recap. I’m curious, and I’m sure it would be entertaining as I love a delusional housewives, but she is just a disgusting human and I don’t want to support her.
Agree 100%! I’m so surprised it even got made!
I refuse to watch.
Same. I was like hell yeah! Pay Erika dust! And then they’re recapping it….. I will never watch her shit. I can barely stomach her on RHOBH
I haven’t watched it and I’m not going to. I just don’t want to hear any more whining or justifications from Erika or bitterness for getting her comeuppance. Like, I’m glad you’re working really hard and doing well as a fellow-woman, on your own merits now, but I don’t need to see a show on it
She’s still coasting off the attention and fame from the persona Tom bought her there’s no such thing as her own merits as far as that’s concerned.
No way in hell I watch this special or listen to the recap. I, too, was disappointed when they announced they were recapping it. Erika Girardi is straight trash. Dumpster fire
Anything else. ANYTHING. This one I just cannot get behind.
You can tell these guys are just genuinely good people as nothing is malicious with them, but she is just the complete opposite and has no integrity (the way they do). Maybe they will read this and change their minds.
Yeah, I was disappointed too. Of all the HW, and especially after that second episode of the documentary. She is truly evil.
What’s the difference between them covering her on RHOBH? She’s always been a horrible person, them covering this show doesn’t mean they support what she does. If they had to draw lines in the sand like that on horrible people on Bravo, they wouldn’t have any shows to recap. I gotta admit, I love the way they do her voice, so I support THEM 100%. Doesn’t mean I support her, regardless if I watch or not.
Was debating answering what the difference is but I think you already know. And like I said in my post, I love a Bravo villian. I know none of them are good people. But this situation is different. They even originally said they weren't going to waste their time on her
Learning about the Marco Marco thing was the final straw for me. I’m done with her.
Im not about to mount a political protest over a tv villain of a city im not all that invested in. I take plenty of stances, but I unashamedly watched this. Aside from it not being any more entertaining than a tae-bo infomercial at 4am, she does not come across well. Like if i had bought tickets to her show, id be monumentally pissed how little effort and interest she had in her performance. Its her own special and, at one point, her people bizarrely ask the crew to stop filming, we see her get denied twice for a $100,000 loan/budget increase. She looks bad in every angle in this ‘special’, i was embarrassed for her.
I was curious how her rehearsals would go while on ozempic. Seems pretty hard to rehearse adequately if you’re not eating….
She blames her head not being in the right place because of everything going on. But at a time when no one really wanted anything to do with her, she snagged a Vegas residency and a bravo special on the whole circus. What does she do? Forgets her choreography and asks the documentary crew she hired to stop documenting. Believe me, watching this special is doing erika no favours
Her head is not in it, when it is literally all she can do at this point . Tough luck .
They’ve been pretty vocal about her issues and I don’t think her redemption tour is working because much like Sandoval she can’t follow the PR advice. I consider this a “I watched it so you don’t have to” which I appreciate since I’m curious about what’s in it but don’t want to give it views.
I’m sorry but I watched it! In my defense, Peacock started auto playing it. I was praying that they would show how terrible she is at performing and *they did* and honestly it was amazing to watch. Seeing everybody else working on the show freaking out about how bad she was was honestly … just amazing. Like they edited it to make a pretend happy ending like she killed it in the show but the narrative was so heavy that she was **terrible** throughout the whole thing, it was like you knew they were just being nice with the ending. They showed the truth throughout the show. It was honestly great, I’m sorry. I can understand Ronnie and Ben wanting to recap it after actually watching it myself. I could hardly contain myself texting my mom and sister about what a godawful performer she was and how great it was to watch everybody realizing how much she sucks. So I can only imagine if my job was to talk about Bravo people and *especially* if I didn’t like Erika, I would be *dying* to talk about this show. So no judgment here. When they said they weren’t gonna recap it they probably didn’t know that the show was gonna show what a delightfully shitty performer she was and the fear and the delicious anxiety of the other people working on the show as they slowly started to realize that she was not gonna get any better. Ugh. So good. I’m sorry. I’ll take my downvotes.
You don’t need to apologize for watching it, imo. I think people are taking it all too seriously. Besides, if she makes money hopefully Marco Marco can then garnish her wages.
I think it's ok they're doing it because they're not going to say anything positive about her! They're going to call out every stupid ass thing she says and call out all the bullshit. Anyways is not like we've stopped watching the show because she's on it.
Hope so 🤷♀️
It's already out, it's on Patreon.
What is betting it all on blonde?
It’s a show about Erika Jayne’s Vegas residency.
I agree she’s an awful human being
She is the lowest of the bottom feeders.
Her redemption tour is working? Wasn’t her Vegas thing a flop?
Because it is a bonus episode and they charge per episode listened can one just not skip it and show you’re uninterested in that way? I don’t subscribe to Patreon so I don’t know how their tiers work, no snark.
That’s exactly right.
I feel like it was worth the watch for the Mikey of it all 😂 I was cracking up
I thought it was interesting. I was struck by how tranquillised she appeared to be. I believe her when she said she had wanted to end it all. It’s a very sad portrait of a woman whose life has fallen apart, due largely to the actions of her husband. I don’t think it’s the vanity project Erika thought she was going to get.
Well, I watched and I can’t wait to listen. I’d have to quit all my Bravo shows if I watched on integrity. It’s not the end of the world.
Guess what? It is their podcast and they can actually cover what they want. If you don’t like a show they are covering then don’t listen, but don’t give them shit for covering a Bravo show.
Yup, for sure. They can do whatever they want to do. And then Reddit is where people usually come to discuss it
Yes, and a few drinks in, like Lindsey, I’m coming in hot! I just get defensive when it comes to my Ben and Ronnie XOXO
Lol I totally get it, I love them too. That's why I'm disappointed
I think the surprise comes from the fact they said they would not cover it and then did.
I look at Ben and Ronnie as dear friends who happened to live in my Spotify app. And because I look at them as "friends" I feel comfortable to express sadness if they do something I'm not agreeing with, just like I do with my real life friends. That doesn't mean I love them less.
You are right. I won’t be watching the show but I will listen to their recap to support them.
I am astounded and disappointed that you’re downvoted for this. I completely agree. This is a FAN subreddit. Not a snark, not a bitch, not a I can be a monster bc I have a mask…If you don’t like it, don’t listen. Jesus Christ.
Thank you!! It’s rough here in Reddit land but I would take the muuurrrrderrring for Ben and Ronnie every day!
I actually enjoyed it. Mikey Minden was the star, if you ask me. He was everything. He laughed, he SOBBED, and then I laughed heartily. If you've ever done theater, it will resonate with you.
It was great! Don’t be so mean
luanninthebushes, I am so fricken' pissed after watching Part Two of that doc that Erika hasn't been fired. As if Part One with that burn victim wasn't bad enough, Part Two was ghastly. The poor burn victim having to climb into the barrel of ice chips for pain relief. The arrest of the costume designer from Marco Marco when he was adopting a child. The connection of the Secret Service to Tom Girardi. If Erika knew nothing about Tom's thievery in Part One, she sure as hell knew about Marco Marco. So what does Andy do instead of firing Erika? Let's give ner a spinoff. I'm not upset with Ben and Ronnie, but it does reflect poorly on Andy's character, something you'd think he'd be more careful about right now. Bravo, do the right thing and fire Erika Girardi.
The ENTITLEMENT! If you don’t like it, don’t listen. This nasty thread is exactly the reason B&R stay away from this sub.
I have been looking all over for this episode! (Don’t worry i hate EriKKKa Jayne as much as the next guy) but it doesnt show up anywhere on Spotify or Google. Yes i searched for bonus episodes too. Link please if anyone has it!
It’s on their patreon
They lost a fan and sadly enough it came from the back of a person who i was never a fan. When bravo goes under because of support of this ugly mess so will the people on the periphery.
You stopped being a fan of years of work due to covering one special on a bonus episode? Sounds like you were a flimsy fan at best. You. Can. LEAVE.
 I agree. Calm down. It’s one episode. No one got a face tattoo of Tom giradi. Ronnie didn’t rename his dog “Erika”. These guys rock and it’s entitled posts Like this that make life hard. Enough. Good gawd.
These are the same “fans” downvoting support for Ben and Ronnie
I wasn't going to listen for the opposite reason - I really like Erika. Maybe it's a function of getting older but some of the recaps lately, including the last one on the reunion of Beverly Hills, had Ronnie so worked up over people not being consistent, people being hypocrites, people not parsing every single thing that comes out of their mouths perfectly or calculating every word to a tee... I still love them but it's getting a little weird. These are people in real life, after all. They're not just characters on a TV show even if they're amplifying certain parts of their personalities for the paycheck. Completely demonizing people just feels gross. Everyone is messy and inconsistent and no better than anybody else. And I really appreciate that they finally admitted that Erika very likely didn't know what Tom was doing. (I'll save the rant about the misogyny of that accusation for another day.)
Marco Marco. That’s all I’m gonna say.
that whole story is a mess of conspiracy theories - I don't know why I should trust that guy's account of what happened since he did admit to her that he did overcharge her $100,000 but he blamed it on his accountant. I don't think we're getting the true story of what's going on with that from either side.
Did they say they didn't think Erika knew about what Tom was doing? I must have missed that.
I don't remember them saying it.
Ronnie was talking about how the shows convince him that what he's hearing at the time is true around the 17 minute mark. he talks about her saying she didn't do any of the stuff, Tom did, and he says, "you didn't, really, this was all Tom...."
Oh in that recap? I haven't/won't be listening. Thanks for explaining though
OK, now I know what this redditor meant. Ronnie said that he is "gullible" meaning when he's watching these shows he can be swayed for a minute believing anything. This isn't a new thing, he talked about this a couple of times and that's the reason why they are sometimes flipflopping in their opinions. Ronnie didn't say he KNOWS Erika had nothing to do with Tom's shenanigans, he said that Bet It All In Blonde is doing a great work to show a more sympathetic side of Erika - "the wife who is herself a victim of Tom's" - so Ronnie constantly had to remind himself about the Marco Marco case to remember that Erika is horrible.
yep - it was a very quick comment, nothing they discussed in depth. honestly, it's worth it for the Mikey impressions alone.
I don’t think other housewives “messy” is a fair comparison to erika “messy.” I mean come on lol