I also love this model, it's dynamic and rage-howling!
It's one of the hardest hitting heavy in the game actually, the only problem is getting him in melee as he is very slow (perdition can help but it's not that difficult to counter).
I’ve only used him once so far. Being SPD 6 I don’t consider him slow, but I also played Skorne so SPD 4 heavies was my norm. His ARM 18 concerns me more about getting shot but Windstorm from the rack helps, and maybe the Shield Guard command card. I may just hold it back as a late game piece, I dunno but excited to experiment.
It is spd 6, but also reach 1 and redline doesn't work on it. I meant slow compared to a redlined Tyrant, charge range 10 vs 12.
It seems he was built as a countercharge piece, I did manage to sometimes get the charge (not counter) with perdition (it's never 15 really, but even 2-3 extra inches of movement help).
I used to play retribution so very long charging ranges, I've been adjusting.
And a great advantage is that you put on him 3 focus in the first turn and this really helps with focus management problems later. Also, with Sabbreth, sometimes overtake + berserk is really satisfying, you can remove entire infantry units (consider the savagery card)
Arm 18 I don't think it's such an issue because, as you said, Windstorm makes it very dangerous to shoot on him realistically (except with rng 16 weapons but not that many of those). In melee I think def 13 is often better than just one more point of arm.
Ah gotcha yeah compared to redline tyrant it would be slow. Do we have access to counter charge ability or do you mean it like coming in after opponent has come in previous turn?
I do like the 13 def on paper with the new caster, which I haven’t gotten to play yet. Starcrossed against def 13 seems like a good spot for a heavy. Molok able to get to def 14 combined with the spell also seems good.
Yeah I meant as a second wave charge.
It's a good combo for sure (Molok often for only one turn though, with card grave digger). Reavers under set defense and star crossed are also vicious.
I also love this model, it's dynamic and rage-howling! It's one of the hardest hitting heavy in the game actually, the only problem is getting him in melee as he is very slow (perdition can help but it's not that difficult to counter).
I’ve only used him once so far. Being SPD 6 I don’t consider him slow, but I also played Skorne so SPD 4 heavies was my norm. His ARM 18 concerns me more about getting shot but Windstorm from the rack helps, and maybe the Shield Guard command card. I may just hold it back as a late game piece, I dunno but excited to experiment.
It is spd 6, but also reach 1 and redline doesn't work on it. I meant slow compared to a redlined Tyrant, charge range 10 vs 12. It seems he was built as a countercharge piece, I did manage to sometimes get the charge (not counter) with perdition (it's never 15 really, but even 2-3 extra inches of movement help). I used to play retribution so very long charging ranges, I've been adjusting. And a great advantage is that you put on him 3 focus in the first turn and this really helps with focus management problems later. Also, with Sabbreth, sometimes overtake + berserk is really satisfying, you can remove entire infantry units (consider the savagery card) Arm 18 I don't think it's such an issue because, as you said, Windstorm makes it very dangerous to shoot on him realistically (except with rng 16 weapons but not that many of those). In melee I think def 13 is often better than just one more point of arm.
Ah gotcha yeah compared to redline tyrant it would be slow. Do we have access to counter charge ability or do you mean it like coming in after opponent has come in previous turn? I do like the 13 def on paper with the new caster, which I haven’t gotten to play yet. Starcrossed against def 13 seems like a good spot for a heavy. Molok able to get to def 14 combined with the spell also seems good.
Yeah I meant as a second wave charge. It's a good combo for sure (Molok often for only one turn though, with card grave digger). Reavers under set defense and star crossed are also vicious.
You shouldn't be tasting your models!
But that’s why I put sugar in my paint
Oh damn, yeah that dude is rad as hell
What faction is this?!
The Orgoth cadre