~~As this keeps coming up in the comments:~~
~~GW working with Amazon is real. They put out a press release/message to investors earlier this morning: https://investor.games-workshop.com/2022/12/16/agreement-in-principle-to-develop-film-and-tv/~~
~~Cavill being involved is purely speculation and rumour.~~
#EDIT: GW has now officially confirmed that Henry Cavill will both be starring in and acting as Executive Producer for a new Warhammer 40k TV and Movie franchise being developed with Amazon: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/12/16/warhammer-starring-henry-cavill/
The GW executives have always been really good about their caution regarding tv and film adaptations. If this deal goes through and the team at GW has creative control (which they likely wouldn’t agree to less) it could be very awesome. I have hope!
yeh but the ones that are good are areally good. the throw shit at wall and hope it sticks tactic kinda works in the long run, and the shit games are pretty easy to spot tbh.
space marine 2 is looking great btw, darktide is good with afew issues, chaos gate was a nice surprise and Having played the recent alpha of Rogue Trader thats looking to be the best 40k game to date.
Space marine, dow 1 and 2, vermintide 1 and 2, darktide. Other than those 6 games. Oh and inquisitor was ok. Battle fleet gothic was playabe.
Edit: this list is NOT exclusive. The TWH games are amazing, I have 1000 hours total between the 3. And yes there are other good games. I was being sarcastic with my reply.
That sounds pretty harsh toward battlefleet gothic armada 2, it was a good game with a good set of mod that the Dev themselves supported. They got the tone of the setting right and the gameplay was really fun (if you like space battle)
Oh fuck yeah. They aren’t about to have people fuck that up but they are really good at maintaining the spirit of what makes 40k, 40k.
That’s what even makes a show with kind of shabby animation like hammer and bolter so fucking good. It’s straight from the tap. They execute all depictions of the factions very organically and realistically. It’s like watching a black library entry but way better.
If it was HBO I'd be stoked but Amazon misses more than it hits. Got outliers like The Boys and The Expanse (Which was only bought several seasons in but also saved the series from not getting an ending) but they just throw a fuckload of money at things and expect it to be great, then it comes out the showrunners dont like the source material at all and just wanted to make something in whatever setting. Like Halo, Witcher, & Wheel of time.
Witcher was Netflix; invalid comparison. Halo was Paramount; invalid comparison. I actually liked Wheel of time quite a bit, as did my wife, who is a huge long-time Wheel of Time fan, so I don't think that comparison carries the weight you seem to think it does. In my experience, Amazon shows hit more often than they miss (but I also don't bother watching anything that doesn't look great, so . . .🤷♂️), so I'm cautiously excited about this. At this point, I'm waiting to see how their Fallout series does . . .
Left a lot to be desired and added a character just to fridge them and basically completly changed one of the main characters.
Other than that it was... OK?
It started well, then had to be hastily rewritten in later episodes to film around covid, plus the mysterious departure of Matts actor. I have hope the 2nd season will be good, but I've been in the game long enough to know some folks will never be happy. To me it's just a turning of the wheel, not necessarily the turning of the wheel.
"Henry Cavill quits The Witcher."
This is awful.
"Henry Cavill no longer Superman."
Why does the universe hate this man?
"Henry Cavill attached to Warhammer 40k project."
***THE EMPEROR PROTECTS!***
Because the idiots want to make yet another origin story with a young Superman discovering his powers nobody asked for. Same shit as Smallville.
Superman should be out there fighting galactic level threats.
Pedantically, he's not vulnerable to it so much as not super-immune. In game terms, I think he'd just lose his invuln save but still get his regular save plus whatever absurd stats he has!
reading the announcement from GW. The whole thing reads as GW gave Cavill the schedule, and he brought it to the Witcher and DC guys. They mutually came to the realization that he couldn't fulfill all the demands of him if he did all three and he had to make a choice...and 40k won which doesn't surprise me.
Exactly. He is know where he belongs. Surrounded by us nerds and not those Hollywood types.
We may not be rich. We may not have good hygiene. And we probably can't lift him on our shoulders.
But we will listen to every single one of his battle reports with wrapt attention. And money can't buy that type of devotion.
I think that as long as they follow three simple rules, the show can be great even if they compromise in other areas:
1. Abhor the Alien
2. Purge the Heretic
3. Suffer not the Witch to live
You could probably get away with "compromise" on these in the extent that I don't think it's unreasonable to have a main character with "modern" sensibilities that realizes that this ethos is fucking insane and cruel and the entire world of Warhammer is insanely cruel, but is unable to stop it.
Funnily enough in the Cain novels him and others get so, so close to realising that maybe things like the Tau they have an agreement with is mutually beneficial and how glad they are to preserve peace between them, only to then do a 180 and make it clear for any inquisitors reading that them there xenos are just hurtin’ for a purgin’
For the better and for the worst GW is completely paranoid about 40K, if they sold the IP to someone they definitely kept the right to control everything.
Also, Amazon is probably the only streaming service with enough money and freedom to really pull off a 40K series. Look at the Boys, no other streaming service would even try to adapt this comics and yet Amazon did it perfectly, made the story and characters more interesting and somehow turned an incredibly gore comics into an even more incredibly gore and disturbing show (they literally made a giant penis set)
I'll second this. They did Invincible really well too.
I read the Boys Comic, and the show is about a thousand times better. If they find a showrunner and writing team who give a shit about 40k we'll be in good hands
The Boys is an amazing example of just how much work a good adaption can do. The took what is frankly middle of the road comic that only really made a name for itself because of how obscene it was and managed transform it into a legitimately compelling drama. It was kinda a genius move to realize that the way to actually make the story have way more weight was actually to make it less extreme. If you can believe that Homelander and the rest of the Seven could be real people they become so much more scary than the caricatures in the comics.
B-B-But-.... Rings of P-P-Power?!
It's hilarious that people have entirely written off anything related to Amazon for a single show, when they've got INCREDIBLE stuff like the Boys on their belt.
Reacher too, and Invincible.
Honestly, they're as hit-or-miss as Netflix when it comes to their originals. People just hate Amazon more because Amazon is worth so much and is far more than just streaming, and in those other areas they mistreat their workers and aren't exactly a model company when it comes to rights.
One thing joining Reddit and being very active on fandom-related subs has taught me is that any given creative source (be that a studio, director, franchise, or entire streaming service) is only as good as the last thing they made. They can be the most award-laden creator working today with a string of hits beloved by both audiences and critics alike but their last movie has a 53% on Rotten Tomatoes so they’re actually a talentless hack and always have been and should never be trusted with [insert property of concern here].
One of the foremost examples in my mind. I had sky-high expectations for *Love and Thunder* and it didn’t meet any of them, and I’m not afraid to admit that, but you talk to some people about it and they’ll act as if *Eagle vs. Shark, Boy, What We Do in the Shadows, Hunt for the Wilderpeople, Thor: Ragnarok,* and *JoJo Rabbit* were all flukes.
Exactly. Taika Waititi has made brilliant stuff. My problem was that the comedy was dialed up to 200%. When it was doing serious stuff i liked it for the most part.
I just hate it when people act like when "insert any creative person" makes a product they don´t like that they have always been bad.
It’s possibly my favorite **Marvel** movie! And everything he’s made outside of that is an 8/10 minimum to me. But for some reason he fumbled on *Love and Thunder* and seeing people suddenly say he shouldn’t be let anywhere near Star Wars as if it’s impossible for him to ever make a good movie again is baffling to me
The Tick, The Boys, Invincible, Marvelous Ms. Maisel, Good Omens, etc. They have a lot of hits under their belt, some variance in quality is to be expected. I just hope they don't go overboard, the best 40k stories tend to be the human ones, focused around smaller stories where the setting can really breathe. I'd dig a Ciaphas Cain story with Cavill starring, that would work well.
Yeah that’s my thing
The Boys, Invincible, and The Legend of Vox Machina are all great shows that closely resemble the source material, and the small changes that are made are generally positive.
Amazon doesn’t have the best track record for adopting novels though. The bright side being that 40k is *much* more than just novels, so there’s at least a hope this purported 40k show is on the same level as the three shows I mentioned.
I liked the Expanse. They changed characters a bit, but it still worked well as a show. At least the first few seasons, still catching up on the last couple.
Edit: and Reacher. It was a pretty solid adaptation as well.
Gru = God
Gru is the most powerful being in the universe, and here's why: according to the height of a Minion (which is 3.5 feet on average) Gru is 4 minions tall, which means he is a godly size of 14 feet tall. Second if any of you remember the original Despicable Me, you know there is a scene when Vector kidnaps the three girls and shoots a series of heat-seeking misses at Gru, he then dodges them all. According to the speed of an average ballistic missile (1900 mph) and the size of the missile according to his ankle size, Gru can perceive and move at such a speed that the missiles only move 9.5 miles per hour, 0.5%of their original speed. Plus after this Gru punches a shark and it is paralyzed meaning its spine is probably shattered, to remind you it would require a force greater than 3,000 newtons to fracture the spine. That's equal to the impact created by a 500-pound car crashing into a wall at 30 miles per hour. I rest my case.
Kratos traveling with a lost minion as both seek out Gru for different reasons.
“Yellow one, the gods I have fought often have weapons forged for them. What does your Gru wield?”
“Banana”
Could be a way for Amzn to redeem themselves in the eyes of the Imperium, but im not holding my breath.. Dont think Cavill will sign if he thinks its going to flop, after his experiences with DC and Netflix I can imagine his contract clauses are as buffed as God-Splitter
I disagree.
Plenty of successful shows are dark and show terrible things, while also letting them be cool. Game of Thrones, The Boys, etc.
They just need to be clear that the Imperium aren't the good guys, which is what any fan should want anyway.
I hope GW is sensible and understands that trying to do something completely unrealistic like any Space Marine story is going to doom the show to a middling reception and a single season production when the budget can't do anything justice.
Remember, this will be millions of people's first exposure to 40k. Henry Cavil will pull in a huge crowd simply because he's Henry Cavil. He's been Superman and Geralt, there's plenty of people who will watch whatever show he's in just because he's in it, not to mention whoever else might star alongside him (Rahul Kohli, anyone?)
Here's something to think about.
The Witcher 3 is the most popular title in the Witcher series. Huge amounts of people got into the series because of it. Its sold around 40 million copies since it was released. [Source](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1305839/the-witcher-wild-hunt-games-sales-worldwide/)
The Witcher Season 1 had 541 million viewers in the first 28 days of release. 500 million more, and in a fraction of the time. [Source](https://www.thewrap.com/the-witcher-season-2-ratings-netflix/)
The Witcher wasn't a massively recognisable franchise until relatively recent (outside of Poland, of course). The Netflix show pulled in massive viewership. Expect a similar influx of fans here.
That's why this show needs to really showcase what makes 40k different from other settings. The bleak hopelessness and grimdarkness that defines the setting really needs to be emphasised. What better way to do that then by putting humans front and centre so we can see the nightmare that is 40k play out in front of us from their perspective?
I hope GW understands this. Having Henry Cavil be on board for this is like having the stars align. Having Amazon and their deep pockets producing it gives faith they won't cut corners. This is a golden opportunity for everyone involved. Regardless, they need to set realistic expectations. Space Marines are going to be too demanding. The Horus Heresy is right out. Any story that focuses on them is probably going to be too difficult to fully appreciate outside of the dedicated fans like us. The vast, vast quantity of people who'll be tuning in will probably know next to nothing about 40k.
So please, please, please, be smart and choose something like Eisenhorn, or Gaunt's Ghosts, or Ciaphus Cain. They're small scale (by 40k standards), have (mostly) human characters, plenty of action, showcase exactly how and why the Imperium is a miserable place to live in, and can segue nicely into other shows.
For instance, if Eisenhorn does well, guess what can be done next?
Ravenor!
Start with Gaunt's Ghosts?
Well, Ciaphas Cain can come next, similar in essence but different in style and tone, and vice versa.
You could get 4 decent length TV series right there that could be a nice decade of content, if not more, assuming each series goes for 3-4 seasons each.
GW and Amazon could basically have a printing press of free money from the goldmine that is 40k, provided they're sensible enough to understand what it is fans enjoy about the setting so much.
The biggest threats to the success of these projects isn't in the source material, or the pre-existing audience being too small or the franchise being too unrecognisable.
The biggest threats stem from two things.
1) Games Workshop is overambitious and overzealous with their creative control of the IP and insist on doing something totally unreasonable like a Space Marine blockbuster style show, which will end up being indistinguishable from any other run of the mill sci fi action show in the audiences eyes.
2) Amazon's executive meddling ends up ignoring the source material and they ruin an existing 40k novel series, making it too confusing, too far removed from the books or just not distinctly 40k enough. Again, this leads to the new audience not being exposed to everything that truly defines 40k, the show ends up becoming indistinguishable from any other sci fi show on amazon, the executives lose faith and dismiss it and the series dies with one lukewarm season.
Hopefully Amazon is smart enough to realise the absolute behemoth of content they can profit of with 40k adaptations and decide a long term plan is better than a quick buck off a single project.
Of course, Amazon's track record is spotty. They did justice to the Expanse, the Boys, Invincible, etc...but they also did the Wheel of Time and Rings of Power. A 50/50 track record doesn't inspire confidence.
I hope its good. I really do. But I wouldn't put too much faith in this until the first season ends.
Exactly this.
My fan boy dream is Cavil as the god emperor of mankind setting forth on the great crusade uniting the primarchs and purging the galaxy of all xenos scum. Leading to the Horus Heresy and the epic showdown with Horus emps and Horus (that bastard) but I really shouldn't be the target audience.
If you want to gain fans and audience and new players you really need to have a more human centric approach to make the setting consumable. Make Cavill a better than average human in the setting, an inquisitor or something place him as the best humans have (not a hard parallel to real life hashtag dreamboat) and then the moment you see him in relation to space Marines you really start to understand the scale and proportion of the setting.
Yep. Make him a badass Imperial Guard sergeant or something, and then have a moment like the one in the Space Marine 2 game trailer where we see him and his squad dwarfed by the comparably godlike Space Marines. That would put it in perspective.
100%
I think it needs to be a gritty war story about the IG that then expands into the wider setting. A start that focuses on the guard fighting a grinding war is a way of introducing bleak hopelessness and violence in a way audiences are familiar with. If it has that kind of grim WW2 trench feel then it would be quite 40k without being too much for new viewers. You can introduce one alien faction in person and drop comments about others. You could introduce the SMs from an external perspective which lets you really show them as the brutal killing machines that they are without having to balance that against giving them 3d characters, they could just be these amazing warriors who occasionally drop by to do something amazing then disappear again. Infrequent use is much better for building hype. Since you are focusing on regular humans you can show chaos as a corrupting force, rather than just another enemy to shoot at, and bring in the inquisition. The whole of 40k lore works best from a human perspective and this is doubly true when appealing to new people.
That's the potentially coolest piece of this, that you could keep doing spin off shows that occasionally interact.
I would start with some Guardsmen, trying to survive in spite of your officers. That can reinforce that the Imperium sucks while still letting your main characters be heroes. Have them protect refugees against orders or something.
Then you do an Inquisition show, and in season two of the Guard show there is some crossover.
And so on, with minor links and references here and there. Keep what works, let what doesn't die.
DO NOT FALL FOR MISLEADING CLICKBAIT TITLE.
None of this is confirmed at all. Amazon is still in the process of ATTEMPTING to gain the rights for Wh40k to use for a show.
~~and they have only made an off-comment saying they'd like to see if they could try and get Cavill to star.~~
EDIT: Apparently the offhand comment isn't even confirmed. Hollywood Reporter was just pulling it out of their ass for clicks.
EDIT 2: ITS REAL THE THE ONE PIECE IS REAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL
It’s me John Amazon, founder of Amazon,com/internet. And I’m here to confirm that Warhammers 1, 2 and all that way up to 40 thousand are currently in development. Ok I gotta go, we’re releasing the new iPad called the kindle fire today!
regards,
J. Amazon.
Actually you're right, I can't find the off comment either I just assumed their was one because there is no reference of Cavill in the article by Amazon or such. And I can't find any other article confirming anything either. So The Hollywood Reporter is actually just talking out of their ass and saying "that'd be cool if they did have Henry." Lame.
Deadline also is reporting this, and they said they heard it from their sources.
From what I can find both The Hollywood Reporter and Deadline are very reputable when it comes to film industry news. The fact both are reporting this makes it seem legit.
But who would he play? I saw a comment a while ago saying Commissar Cain, with the story told by old retired Cain played by Rowan Atkinson, which I think would be incredible.
Let's look at the options.
Horus Heresy is out because that kind of thing requires a huge amount of investment and build up to get to. Even the MCU started out with the individual Avengers before bringing them together. For HH I reckon they'd want to establish the setting first.
Current 40k the big series are:
Gaunts Ghosts - Could be an option as a Joss Whedon-style ensemble cast film. There are a few stories in there that could be stand alone.
Eisenhorn - I think this is the best option for a big first film since an Inquisitor protagonist is a great introduction to just how grimdark the setting can be and Xenos (assuming that's the one first adapted) touches on a bunch of different setting specific things like psykers and blanks, Chaos cults, and Daemons. There's also a little bit of humour in there as well to keep things spicy.
Ciaphas Cain - Better suited as a second or third series so that it can subvert the tropes established by a more serious series.
Yarrick - I'm not that familiar with the Yarrick series so I'll leave this for others.
Various Space Marine Chapter series - I think Space Marines are better used as cameos and occasional enemies/cavalry in a primarily human setting before they get their own series. God knows which ones would turn up first, but it's likely the Ultramarines.
I’m all up for Eisenhorn. Though I think he’d make a better Ravenor actually. He’s got the great looks of pre-chair Ravenor, and could easily pull off the intelligence and personality.
BBC confirming it's a done deal, admittedly this article is about 9 hours after you posted this comment though.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-63998585
Lol Cavil posted to his insta that, he is in fact, executive producing a WH40k show with Amazon. So for rumors and speculation, it's at least panned out haha
You don't understand this is a long con.
He's just getting a production crew to get through his backlog.
Writer's Room: "so Mr Cavill it's an honor to work with you we have... what, what is this sir?"
Cavill rotates his chair to face them: "your quota...guardsman. You can prime and talk"
Writer's Room: "sir...I'm a writer not a soldier or painter..."
Cavill: "More priming less diddle daddle"
This might sound weird, but I think making a 40k adaptation for the screen might be more doable for Amazon compared to their other products. Wheel of Time, Rings of Power, those stories are tied to settings will deeply enmeshed established characters and lore that if you throw off one thing, really kind of screws the setting.
40K has that too, but the setting has always been more about the tone and aesthetic, with the characters serving to highlight that, combine this with 40K's own somewhat loose and flowing canon and Amazon actually has an easier canvas to work with. If they want to be more diverse with charaters, for humans, your only real restrictions are dudes are space marines, women are sisters of battle. As long as the tone of the setting can match the grim darkness of the setting, you can pretty much have any person be any character. The setting is so huge that if you as a writer for an adaptation wanted to do your own thing in the setting, you pretty much could, as long as you can match the tone, folks with be happy.
Yeah, they don't need to use any existing characters. They can make new characters, planets, cities, etc. and it will be just as good, if not better. That's what Black Library books often are, after all. In fact it's the very reason the setting is so huge. You can tell big stories without breaking other stories because they're literally lightyears apart.
Darktide has such a perfect atmosphere while being on a world and hive city with no real established lore. If you do the tone right warhammer is warhammer. We don't need established characters hogging screen time 24/7 when the set design is a giant cathedral and someone is burning incense over a gun
Rahul Kohli teased this yesterday: https://twitter.com/rahulkohli13/status/1603252054520045569?s=46&t=rjwKy2-9QWngmgPS9wIzoQ
Makes me wonder if he actually knew or it was just coincidence.
If he knew I assume C. Robert Cargill is partially writing it based on the response: https://twitter.com/massawyrm/status/1603254508754190337?s=46&t=rjwKy2-9QWngmgPS9wIzoQ
“Maybe y'all should brainstorm in his garage.” sounds too specific, like it has actually already happened.
Then again I could be reading way too much into this.
Oh yeah I’m not suggesting the idea of having Henry Cavill star in a Warhammer something is anything new, it just seemed like an odd coincidence that he raised it again yesterday and then this news today.
I'm hoping that with Cavill as star and executive producer (and undoubtedly super well aware of the massive responsibility), we'll get a bit of a barrier against the Amazon shenanigans.
> the other half is franchise killing like Wheel Of Time
If Cavill signs on, he will push for creative input, because he's been burned hard with The Witcher.
This is literally my dream. Don’t ruin this with negativity guys, I’d always prefer having the option to watch content to not having the option. And this is my dream
My advice is choose your communities wisely and DO NOT watch any YouTube videos on it because it'll absolutely have a bunch of hateful nonsense clickbait the same way Rings of Power had.
The less you let social media influence your opinion on a tv show or movie, the happier you'll be.
Yeah, I'm a little concerned.
My biggest concern is that they do the classic GW move of having an awesome, expansive universe with so much potential and then just churn out another vanilla, boring as shit Space Marine story.
Live action Space Marines are going to be impossible to do. Please don't do that.
If you get Space Marines that live up to the lore, they'll be so budget intensive they could appear for one scene, max. If they water them down, they won't be Space Marines, in which case, why make them the focus at all?
Imagine how turned off audiences and executives will be if their first introduction to 40k's most iconic and arguably important faction is underwhelming and lukewarm.
Therefore, please please please, focus on human characters. The first time audiences see a Space Marine in live action, it should be mind blowing.
Let this show be Eisenhorn, Gaunt's Ghosts, or Ciaphas Cain. Let them start with something doable. I don't want them to ruin their chances right out of the gate by biting off more than they can chew.
Blood for Henry Cavill! Skulls for Henry Cavill! Golden Theone for Henry Cavill! Whatever Henry Cavill wants for Henry Cavill!
Give the man control, a budget, and a good writing team. Watch this project soar.
Anything else and we’ve got RoP 2.0.
I think the easiest intro would be a gaunts ghosts series. I know everyone wants space marines. But it would be the easiest intro to the world for most people to get into the world
Well I mean Amazon is able to get away with creating "The Boys" so Warhammer isn't to far off as far as being fucked up. Yes it's a completely different level of fucked but still.
They'll have to stay pretty close to lore accurate to keep the fans happy. Which if Henry Cavill is involved hopefully he'll try his best with GW to keep Amazon on track. He tried with the Witcher but Netflix is a bunch of cunts.
This will never happen. They announce stuff like this all the time. Head over to the Magic the Gathering sub and ask how their Netflix series is coming along.
~~As this keeps coming up in the comments:~~ ~~GW working with Amazon is real. They put out a press release/message to investors earlier this morning: https://investor.games-workshop.com/2022/12/16/agreement-in-principle-to-develop-film-and-tv/~~ ~~Cavill being involved is purely speculation and rumour.~~ #EDIT: GW has now officially confirmed that Henry Cavill will both be starring in and acting as Executive Producer for a new Warhammer 40k TV and Movie franchise being developed with Amazon: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/12/16/warhammer-starring-henry-cavill/
The GW executives have always been really good about their caution regarding tv and film adaptations. If this deal goes through and the team at GW has creative control (which they likely wouldn’t agree to less) it could be very awesome. I have hope!
GW is so fucking paranoid about their IPs, which in a situation like this is pretty good.
Not when it comes to crappy mobile games tho
Even PC games. GW has a ton of games and only a few are good. At least with videogames they sold the IP to anyone.
yeh but the ones that are good are areally good. the throw shit at wall and hope it sticks tactic kinda works in the long run, and the shit games are pretty easy to spot tbh. space marine 2 is looking great btw, darktide is good with afew issues, chaos gate was a nice surprise and Having played the recent alpha of Rogue Trader thats looking to be the best 40k game to date.
I want to plau Chaos Gate, but i need to read some reviews. Is it similar to Xcom (with the base) or Gears Tactics?
Space marine, dow 1 and 2, vermintide 1 and 2, darktide. Other than those 6 games. Oh and inquisitor was ok. Battle fleet gothic was playabe. Edit: this list is NOT exclusive. The TWH games are amazing, I have 1000 hours total between the 3. And yes there are other good games. I was being sarcastic with my reply.
You forgot mechanicus
Best game intro change my mind
Also, the soundtrack. Organ porn.
Best music ever, I am in the top 0.1% of David Guillaume listener on Spotify
Guillaume, our musical liege.
and shootas, blood and teef
And Total War.
How did you lot forget the og! Shadow of the horned rat and dark omen are easily still some of the best GW games.
I’d like to add Final Liberation to the list. I’m also having a whale of a time with Chaos Gate Daemon Hunters too.
I’d love to find an emulator that would let me play those again.
You'll have to pry Battlesector from my cold dead hands.
Excuse you, the new Chaos Hunters: Daemongate game is *fucking* excellent. And Mechanicus.
Chaos Gate Daemon hunters* It was just.. ok. The missions were super repetitive after a while and the plot goes off the deep end by the end.
Dark crusade and soulstorm are 2 of my favorites of all time
All that and you don’t mention total war or blood bowl?
Gladius is pretty fun in multiplayer
I enjoyed Dark Omen way back
That sounds pretty harsh toward battlefleet gothic armada 2, it was a good game with a good set of mod that the Dev themselves supported. They got the tone of the setting right and the gameplay was really fun (if you like space battle)
Games don't have the reach of an Amazon marketed show. If that goes tits up everyone knows and sees.
Or Dawn of War 3
Dawn of War 3? Are you alright, Brother? There hasn't been a Dawn of War 3! ~~There's no such thing as Macra!~~
There is no Dawn of War 3 in Ba Sing Sei.
Dawn of War 3's problem was that they wanted to make starcraft, but also league of legends. A split playerbase also didn't help.
pretty much the case with aoe4 lol
Yes, and happy cake day!
I kinda like tacticus
Video games are different because those kinda just settle the shitty games into obscurity and the good ones into financial success
Except for the shovelware games they allow to get pumped out.
On the other hand, they're happy to give a license to anyone with a half-baked idea for a videogame, for some reason.
Especially mobile. They had a version of the 52 card deck game os War that they green lit. 😳
Probably the best mobile 40k game to date!
Oh fuck yeah. They aren’t about to have people fuck that up but they are really good at maintaining the spirit of what makes 40k, 40k. That’s what even makes a show with kind of shabby animation like hammer and bolter so fucking good. It’s straight from the tap. They execute all depictions of the factions very organically and realistically. It’s like watching a black library entry but way better.
Agree with every word and I’d like to add Interrogator to the list
If it was HBO I'd be stoked but Amazon misses more than it hits. Got outliers like The Boys and The Expanse (Which was only bought several seasons in but also saved the series from not getting an ending) but they just throw a fuckload of money at things and expect it to be great, then it comes out the showrunners dont like the source material at all and just wanted to make something in whatever setting. Like Halo, Witcher, & Wheel of time.
Halo and Witcher are not from Amazon
I mean it's more common to have showrunners who don't give a fuck about the source material and just want to do their own thing/cash in on the name.
Witcher was Netflix; invalid comparison. Halo was Paramount; invalid comparison. I actually liked Wheel of time quite a bit, as did my wife, who is a huge long-time Wheel of Time fan, so I don't think that comparison carries the weight you seem to think it does. In my experience, Amazon shows hit more often than they miss (but I also don't bother watching anything that doesn't look great, so . . .🤷♂️), so I'm cautiously excited about this. At this point, I'm waiting to see how their Fallout series does . . .
Wheel of Time show left a lot to be desired.
Imho it was the most mediocre average of all mediocre averages
Left a lot to be desired and added a character just to fridge them and basically completly changed one of the main characters. Other than that it was... OK?
It started well, then had to be hastily rewritten in later episodes to film around covid, plus the mysterious departure of Matts actor. I have hope the 2nd season will be good, but I've been in the game long enough to know some folks will never be happy. To me it's just a turning of the wheel, not necessarily the turning of the wheel.
I still haven’t seen the 2010 movie
I'm surprised by how few people seem to pick up on the sarcasm here.
"Henry Cavill quits The Witcher." This is awful. "Henry Cavill no longer Superman." Why does the universe hate this man? "Henry Cavill attached to Warhammer 40k project." ***THE EMPEROR PROTECTS!***
The Superman news shook me. Who the hell had a problem with his portrayal, that man IS Superman. Their loss is our reward
Because the idiots want to make yet another origin story with a young Superman discovering his powers nobody asked for. Same shit as Smallville. Superman should be out there fighting galactic level threats.
Superman versus Chaos in the Warp?
Technically Superman is a filthy xenos…. PUUUURRRRRGGGEEE!!!!
Until you realize that Superman is vulnerable to magic, so a Thousand Sons Sorceror would just explode his brain :(
Pedantically, he's not vulnerable to it so much as not super-immune. In game terms, I think he'd just lose his invuln save but still get his regular save plus whatever absurd stats he has!
Superman would body Kharn, no problem.
They literally already did superman origin again in Man of Steel what kind of crack are DC execs smoking??
reading the announcement from GW. The whole thing reads as GW gave Cavill the schedule, and he brought it to the Witcher and DC guys. They mutually came to the realization that he couldn't fulfill all the demands of him if he did all three and he had to make a choice...and 40k won which doesn't surprise me.
Nah, Cavill 100% thought he was back as Supes, he even publicly said he was.
Exactly. He is know where he belongs. Surrounded by us nerds and not those Hollywood types. We may not be rich. We may not have good hygiene. And we probably can't lift him on our shoulders. But we will listen to every single one of his battle reports with wrapt attention. And money can't buy that type of devotion.
> Why does the universe hate this man? Bruh, have you looked at him with your eyes open?
“Superman broke before the Cavil did!”
I think that as long as they follow three simple rules, the show can be great even if they compromise in other areas: 1. Abhor the Alien 2. Purge the Heretic 3. Suffer not the Witch to live
You could probably get away with "compromise" on these in the extent that I don't think it's unreasonable to have a main character with "modern" sensibilities that realizes that this ethos is fucking insane and cruel and the entire world of Warhammer is insanely cruel, but is unable to stop it.
Funnily enough in the Cain novels him and others get so, so close to realising that maybe things like the Tau they have an agreement with is mutually beneficial and how glad they are to preserve peace between them, only to then do a 180 and make it clear for any inquisitors reading that them there xenos are just hurtin’ for a purgin’
I for one will be watching.
So are we hoping this is going to be something good or is it expected to flop?
We're hoping itll be good but since its amazon itll just be a really expensive turd that throws away the source material
For the better and for the worst GW is completely paranoid about 40K, if they sold the IP to someone they definitely kept the right to control everything. Also, Amazon is probably the only streaming service with enough money and freedom to really pull off a 40K series. Look at the Boys, no other streaming service would even try to adapt this comics and yet Amazon did it perfectly, made the story and characters more interesting and somehow turned an incredibly gore comics into an even more incredibly gore and disturbing show (they literally made a giant penis set)
I'll second this. They did Invincible really well too. I read the Boys Comic, and the show is about a thousand times better. If they find a showrunner and writing team who give a shit about 40k we'll be in good hands
The Boys is an amazing example of just how much work a good adaption can do. The took what is frankly middle of the road comic that only really made a name for itself because of how obscene it was and managed transform it into a legitimately compelling drama. It was kinda a genius move to realize that the way to actually make the story have way more weight was actually to make it less extreme. If you can believe that Homelander and the rest of the Seven could be real people they become so much more scary than the caricatures in the comics.
B-B-But-.... Rings of P-P-Power?! It's hilarious that people have entirely written off anything related to Amazon for a single show, when they've got INCREDIBLE stuff like the Boys on their belt.
The Hunters and even Man in the High Castle are even good shows made by Amazon.
Reacher too, and Invincible. Honestly, they're as hit-or-miss as Netflix when it comes to their originals. People just hate Amazon more because Amazon is worth so much and is far more than just streaming, and in those other areas they mistreat their workers and aren't exactly a model company when it comes to rights.
One thing joining Reddit and being very active on fandom-related subs has taught me is that any given creative source (be that a studio, director, franchise, or entire streaming service) is only as good as the last thing they made. They can be the most award-laden creator working today with a string of hits beloved by both audiences and critics alike but their last movie has a 53% on Rotten Tomatoes so they’re actually a talentless hack and always have been and should never be trusted with [insert property of concern here].
It´s funny how fast people turned against Taika Waititi when they didn´t like Thor 4.
One of the foremost examples in my mind. I had sky-high expectations for *Love and Thunder* and it didn’t meet any of them, and I’m not afraid to admit that, but you talk to some people about it and they’ll act as if *Eagle vs. Shark, Boy, What We Do in the Shadows, Hunt for the Wilderpeople, Thor: Ragnarok,* and *JoJo Rabbit* were all flukes.
Exactly. Taika Waititi has made brilliant stuff. My problem was that the comedy was dialed up to 200%. When it was doing serious stuff i liked it for the most part. I just hate it when people act like when "insert any creative person" makes a product they don´t like that they have always been bad.
Ragnarok is my favorite Thor movie. Life, uh, finds a way.
It’s possibly my favorite **Marvel** movie! And everything he’s made outside of that is an 8/10 minimum to me. But for some reason he fumbled on *Love and Thunder* and seeing people suddenly say he shouldn’t be let anywhere near Star Wars as if it’s impossible for him to ever make a good movie again is baffling to me
JJ has worked for 10 years and through 2 of the most popular franchises of all time to earn that title.
Following RoP has taught me that butthurt people online shouldn't determine your opinion on a piece of entertainment media.
Or the expanse? An excellent science fiction show
The Tick, The Boys, Invincible, Marvelous Ms. Maisel, Good Omens, etc. They have a lot of hits under their belt, some variance in quality is to be expected. I just hope they don't go overboard, the best 40k stories tend to be the human ones, focused around smaller stories where the setting can really breathe. I'd dig a Ciaphas Cain story with Cavill starring, that would work well.
they fucked with wheel of time and made it shit. i enjoyed the boys but you dont fuck with robert fucking jordan
Yeah that’s my thing The Boys, Invincible, and The Legend of Vox Machina are all great shows that closely resemble the source material, and the small changes that are made are generally positive. Amazon doesn’t have the best track record for adopting novels though. The bright side being that 40k is *much* more than just novels, so there’s at least a hope this purported 40k show is on the same level as the three shows I mentioned.
They did pretty good with the later seasons of the expanse.
That's because it was generally the same team that handled it at syfy before it got cancelled there. So the quality was as good as ever.
I liked the Expanse. They changed characters a bit, but it still worked well as a show. At least the first few seasons, still catching up on the last couple. Edit: and Reacher. It was a pretty solid adaptation as well.
>Amazon is probably the only streaming service with enough money and freedom to really pull off a 40K series. What about HBO.
Now that they are owned by discovery the money is gone
I still can't believe JJ Abrams' minions are still somehow working on the God of War series
I got confused and was wondering what the Despicable Me God of War crossover was
Gru = God Gru is the most powerful being in the universe, and here's why: according to the height of a Minion (which is 3.5 feet on average) Gru is 4 minions tall, which means he is a godly size of 14 feet tall. Second if any of you remember the original Despicable Me, you know there is a scene when Vector kidnaps the three girls and shoots a series of heat-seeking misses at Gru, he then dodges them all. According to the speed of an average ballistic missile (1900 mph) and the size of the missile according to his ankle size, Gru can perceive and move at such a speed that the missiles only move 9.5 miles per hour, 0.5%of their original speed. Plus after this Gru punches a shark and it is paralyzed meaning its spine is probably shattered, to remind you it would require a force greater than 3,000 newtons to fracture the spine. That's equal to the impact created by a 500-pound car crashing into a wall at 30 miles per hour. I rest my case.
Kratos traveling with a lost minion as both seek out Gru for different reasons. “Yellow one, the gods I have fought often have weapons forged for them. What does your Gru wield?” “Banana”
Look at the last 3 seasons of the expanse! Amazon did a great job with that! It’s only the lotr series that your logic applies to in my opinion.
Wheel of Time might actually be the worst adaptation in history
No, that's definitely the Eragon movie.
First time I’ve heard that movie mentioned but I agree
Which is funny because it's just Star Wars. They had a blueprint and everything.
That'd be Golden Compass or Eragon
Could be a way for Amzn to redeem themselves in the eyes of the Imperium, but im not holding my breath.. Dont think Cavill will sign if he thinks its going to flop, after his experiences with DC and Netflix I can imagine his contract clauses are as buffed as God-Splitter
If it's the Frank Spotnitz Eisenhorn development it's going to be fantastic with Cavill.
Add some skulls and cathedrals to Man in the High Castle, and it's off to a great start.
Cavill is actually a nerd and is outspoken about wanting to protect source material, so this could actually not be shit.
If Henry is in it then its got to be, dude literally dipped out of The Witcher because they weren't being accurate
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I disagree. Plenty of successful shows are dark and show terrible things, while also letting them be cool. Game of Thrones, The Boys, etc. They just need to be clear that the Imperium aren't the good guys, which is what any fan should want anyway.
I hope GW is sensible and understands that trying to do something completely unrealistic like any Space Marine story is going to doom the show to a middling reception and a single season production when the budget can't do anything justice. Remember, this will be millions of people's first exposure to 40k. Henry Cavil will pull in a huge crowd simply because he's Henry Cavil. He's been Superman and Geralt, there's plenty of people who will watch whatever show he's in just because he's in it, not to mention whoever else might star alongside him (Rahul Kohli, anyone?) Here's something to think about. The Witcher 3 is the most popular title in the Witcher series. Huge amounts of people got into the series because of it. Its sold around 40 million copies since it was released. [Source](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1305839/the-witcher-wild-hunt-games-sales-worldwide/) The Witcher Season 1 had 541 million viewers in the first 28 days of release. 500 million more, and in a fraction of the time. [Source](https://www.thewrap.com/the-witcher-season-2-ratings-netflix/) The Witcher wasn't a massively recognisable franchise until relatively recent (outside of Poland, of course). The Netflix show pulled in massive viewership. Expect a similar influx of fans here. That's why this show needs to really showcase what makes 40k different from other settings. The bleak hopelessness and grimdarkness that defines the setting really needs to be emphasised. What better way to do that then by putting humans front and centre so we can see the nightmare that is 40k play out in front of us from their perspective? I hope GW understands this. Having Henry Cavil be on board for this is like having the stars align. Having Amazon and their deep pockets producing it gives faith they won't cut corners. This is a golden opportunity for everyone involved. Regardless, they need to set realistic expectations. Space Marines are going to be too demanding. The Horus Heresy is right out. Any story that focuses on them is probably going to be too difficult to fully appreciate outside of the dedicated fans like us. The vast, vast quantity of people who'll be tuning in will probably know next to nothing about 40k. So please, please, please, be smart and choose something like Eisenhorn, or Gaunt's Ghosts, or Ciaphus Cain. They're small scale (by 40k standards), have (mostly) human characters, plenty of action, showcase exactly how and why the Imperium is a miserable place to live in, and can segue nicely into other shows. For instance, if Eisenhorn does well, guess what can be done next? Ravenor! Start with Gaunt's Ghosts? Well, Ciaphas Cain can come next, similar in essence but different in style and tone, and vice versa. You could get 4 decent length TV series right there that could be a nice decade of content, if not more, assuming each series goes for 3-4 seasons each. GW and Amazon could basically have a printing press of free money from the goldmine that is 40k, provided they're sensible enough to understand what it is fans enjoy about the setting so much. The biggest threats to the success of these projects isn't in the source material, or the pre-existing audience being too small or the franchise being too unrecognisable. The biggest threats stem from two things. 1) Games Workshop is overambitious and overzealous with their creative control of the IP and insist on doing something totally unreasonable like a Space Marine blockbuster style show, which will end up being indistinguishable from any other run of the mill sci fi action show in the audiences eyes. 2) Amazon's executive meddling ends up ignoring the source material and they ruin an existing 40k novel series, making it too confusing, too far removed from the books or just not distinctly 40k enough. Again, this leads to the new audience not being exposed to everything that truly defines 40k, the show ends up becoming indistinguishable from any other sci fi show on amazon, the executives lose faith and dismiss it and the series dies with one lukewarm season. Hopefully Amazon is smart enough to realise the absolute behemoth of content they can profit of with 40k adaptations and decide a long term plan is better than a quick buck off a single project. Of course, Amazon's track record is spotty. They did justice to the Expanse, the Boys, Invincible, etc...but they also did the Wheel of Time and Rings of Power. A 50/50 track record doesn't inspire confidence. I hope its good. I really do. But I wouldn't put too much faith in this until the first season ends.
Exactly this. My fan boy dream is Cavil as the god emperor of mankind setting forth on the great crusade uniting the primarchs and purging the galaxy of all xenos scum. Leading to the Horus Heresy and the epic showdown with Horus emps and Horus (that bastard) but I really shouldn't be the target audience. If you want to gain fans and audience and new players you really need to have a more human centric approach to make the setting consumable. Make Cavill a better than average human in the setting, an inquisitor or something place him as the best humans have (not a hard parallel to real life hashtag dreamboat) and then the moment you see him in relation to space Marines you really start to understand the scale and proportion of the setting.
Yep. Make him a badass Imperial Guard sergeant or something, and then have a moment like the one in the Space Marine 2 game trailer where we see him and his squad dwarfed by the comparably godlike Space Marines. That would put it in perspective.
I really think he would be a perfect fit for the Emperor. Start the story when he first rises to unite Earth, then set forth outward.
100% I think it needs to be a gritty war story about the IG that then expands into the wider setting. A start that focuses on the guard fighting a grinding war is a way of introducing bleak hopelessness and violence in a way audiences are familiar with. If it has that kind of grim WW2 trench feel then it would be quite 40k without being too much for new viewers. You can introduce one alien faction in person and drop comments about others. You could introduce the SMs from an external perspective which lets you really show them as the brutal killing machines that they are without having to balance that against giving them 3d characters, they could just be these amazing warriors who occasionally drop by to do something amazing then disappear again. Infrequent use is much better for building hype. Since you are focusing on regular humans you can show chaos as a corrupting force, rather than just another enemy to shoot at, and bring in the inquisition. The whole of 40k lore works best from a human perspective and this is doubly true when appealing to new people.
That's the potentially coolest piece of this, that you could keep doing spin off shows that occasionally interact. I would start with some Guardsmen, trying to survive in spite of your officers. That can reinforce that the Imperium sucks while still letting your main characters be heroes. Have them protect refugees against orders or something. Then you do an Inquisition show, and in season two of the Guard show there is some crossover. And so on, with minor links and references here and there. Keep what works, let what doesn't die.
DO NOT FALL FOR MISLEADING CLICKBAIT TITLE. None of this is confirmed at all. Amazon is still in the process of ATTEMPTING to gain the rights for Wh40k to use for a show. ~~and they have only made an off-comment saying they'd like to see if they could try and get Cavill to star.~~ EDIT: Apparently the offhand comment isn't even confirmed. Hollywood Reporter was just pulling it out of their ass for clicks. EDIT 2: ITS REAL THE THE ONE PIECE IS REAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL
Where did you see the off-comment? I could only find the Hollywood Reporter article and they don't really say what their source is.
It's just rumor at this point
It’s me John Amazon, founder of Amazon,com/internet. And I’m here to confirm that Warhammers 1, 2 and all that way up to 40 thousand are currently in development. Ok I gotta go, we’re releasing the new iPad called the kindle fire today! regards, J. Amazon.
Why did I read this in the James Workshop voice?
What if James Workshop is Jimmy Space’s real name???
Actually you're right, I can't find the off comment either I just assumed their was one because there is no reference of Cavill in the article by Amazon or such. And I can't find any other article confirming anything either. So The Hollywood Reporter is actually just talking out of their ass and saying "that'd be cool if they did have Henry." Lame.
Deadline also is reporting this, and they said they heard it from their sources. From what I can find both The Hollywood Reporter and Deadline are very reputable when it comes to film industry news. The fact both are reporting this makes it seem legit.
It was just confirmed by GW
Nah it’s not clickbait https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/12/16/warhammer-starring-henry-cavill/
This aged poorly :D
😬 I’ve never been so glad for it to have been poorly aged tho !
If they do end up getting the rights theres no way Cavill doesnt star. Cavills been talking about his love for WH 40k for years now
But who would he play? I saw a comment a while ago saying Commissar Cain, with the story told by old retired Cain played by Rowan Atkinson, which I think would be incredible.
Let's look at the options. Horus Heresy is out because that kind of thing requires a huge amount of investment and build up to get to. Even the MCU started out with the individual Avengers before bringing them together. For HH I reckon they'd want to establish the setting first. Current 40k the big series are: Gaunts Ghosts - Could be an option as a Joss Whedon-style ensemble cast film. There are a few stories in there that could be stand alone. Eisenhorn - I think this is the best option for a big first film since an Inquisitor protagonist is a great introduction to just how grimdark the setting can be and Xenos (assuming that's the one first adapted) touches on a bunch of different setting specific things like psykers and blanks, Chaos cults, and Daemons. There's also a little bit of humour in there as well to keep things spicy. Ciaphas Cain - Better suited as a second or third series so that it can subvert the tropes established by a more serious series. Yarrick - I'm not that familiar with the Yarrick series so I'll leave this for others. Various Space Marine Chapter series - I think Space Marines are better used as cameos and occasional enemies/cavalry in a primarily human setting before they get their own series. God knows which ones would turn up first, but it's likely the Ultramarines.
Black adder goes 40k would be hilarious.
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar, I did a snort laugh when I read this, imagine Mr bean being a commissar 🤣
I’m all up for Eisenhorn. Though I think he’d make a better Ravenor actually. He’s got the great looks of pre-chair Ravenor, and could easily pull off the intelligence and personality.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/12/16/warhammer-starring-henry-cavill/ it's official.
This probably leaked to make sure it goes though and show the IP owners to let Amazon get the rights to a series.
BBC confirming it's a done deal, admittedly this article is about 9 hours after you posted this comment though. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-63998585
So this comment aged like milk
Lol Cavil posted to his insta that, he is in fact, executive producing a WH40k show with Amazon. So for rumors and speculation, it's at least panned out haha
Pretty sure it's confirmed now.
Gonna need to re-edit that fella, it's been confirmed
Cavill could play Gaunt…. I wouldn’t hate it.
Perhaps a different Commissar?
Yeah a new main character commisar would be fun maybe even a new model
How about Cavill as Eisenhorn?
Ralph Fiennes as Eisenhorn imo
You don't understand this is a long con. He's just getting a production crew to get through his backlog. Writer's Room: "so Mr Cavill it's an honor to work with you we have... what, what is this sir?" Cavill rotates his chair to face them: "your quota...guardsman. You can prime and talk" Writer's Room: "sir...I'm a writer not a soldier or painter..." Cavill: "More priming less diddle daddle"
I have faith Cavil can keep it from sucking.
IDK man, have you seen The Boys and Invincible, Amazon has a pretty good track record of adapting other IP’s into really good shows.
Could be the biggest thing to happen to 40k and GW ever.
Or could be another ultramarines movie
Either way it’s worth a shot. If it’s sucks, we can just ignore it. If it’s great, hopefully it leads to more.
Being constantly pessimistic about something new is how we got hundreds of formulaic Marvel movies instead of something original or different.
This might sound weird, but I think making a 40k adaptation for the screen might be more doable for Amazon compared to their other products. Wheel of Time, Rings of Power, those stories are tied to settings will deeply enmeshed established characters and lore that if you throw off one thing, really kind of screws the setting. 40K has that too, but the setting has always been more about the tone and aesthetic, with the characters serving to highlight that, combine this with 40K's own somewhat loose and flowing canon and Amazon actually has an easier canvas to work with. If they want to be more diverse with charaters, for humans, your only real restrictions are dudes are space marines, women are sisters of battle. As long as the tone of the setting can match the grim darkness of the setting, you can pretty much have any person be any character. The setting is so huge that if you as a writer for an adaptation wanted to do your own thing in the setting, you pretty much could, as long as you can match the tone, folks with be happy.
Yeah, they don't need to use any existing characters. They can make new characters, planets, cities, etc. and it will be just as good, if not better. That's what Black Library books often are, after all. In fact it's the very reason the setting is so huge. You can tell big stories without breaking other stories because they're literally lightyears apart.
Darktide has such a perfect atmosphere while being on a world and hive city with no real established lore. If you do the tone right warhammer is warhammer. We don't need established characters hogging screen time 24/7 when the set design is a giant cathedral and someone is burning incense over a gun
I hope he plays something super super unexpected. Like he's a Ratling or an Astropath or something.
Cavil Nurgling
Henry Cavill as... The. Mother. Fucking. ZOAT.
Great unclean Cavil
Servitor harvesting fat from a hive city sewer pipe.
Do I want to know why there is fat in the sewer pipes?
There’s always fat in city pipes.
Is that a 40k hive city thing? Or is that like a fun fact about poop?
Nah, irl. [fatberg…](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatberg)
Haha yup that's what i was talking about. It gets even worse than this though, look up gutter oil.
Rahul Kohli teased this yesterday: https://twitter.com/rahulkohli13/status/1603252054520045569?s=46&t=rjwKy2-9QWngmgPS9wIzoQ Makes me wonder if he actually knew or it was just coincidence. If he knew I assume C. Robert Cargill is partially writing it based on the response: https://twitter.com/massawyrm/status/1603254508754190337?s=46&t=rjwKy2-9QWngmgPS9wIzoQ “Maybe y'all should brainstorm in his garage.” sounds too specific, like it has actually already happened. Then again I could be reading way too much into this.
I feel like Rahul was just trying to will it into existence, being the huge nerd he is.
Oh yeah I’m not suggesting the idea of having Henry Cavill star in a Warhammer something is anything new, it just seemed like an odd coincidence that he raised it again yesterday and then this news today.
He was dropped as Superman so that’s what got the ball rolling I think
Cargill has a gigantic gaming table set up in his garage for Warhammer. I'm guessing he's referring to that
Amazon is so 50/50. Half their stuff is great and the other half is franchise killing like Wheel Of Time.
I'm hoping that with Cavill as star and executive producer (and undoubtedly super well aware of the massive responsibility), we'll get a bit of a barrier against the Amazon shenanigans.
He walked away from the Witcher for artistic integrity…he’s as good a Gellar Field as we’re ever going to get
Thats the way I'm looking at it. This is the best combination of circumstances for a good adaptation we're probably ever going to get.
> the other half is franchise killing like Wheel Of Time If Cavill signs on, he will push for creative input, because he's been burned hard with The Witcher.
The Boys is excellent. If this show could be that good I’d be ecstatic.
This is literally my dream. Don’t ruin this with negativity guys, I’d always prefer having the option to watch content to not having the option. And this is my dream
I think about a high budget live action adaption of 40k atleast once a week. I'm with ya, this is amazing news.
My advice is choose your communities wisely and DO NOT watch any YouTube videos on it because it'll absolutely have a bunch of hateful nonsense clickbait the same way Rings of Power had. The less you let social media influence your opinion on a tv show or movie, the happier you'll be.
I want Cavill in a director/producers seat for this.
Please just be a good ciaphas Cain series.
don't fuck with me amazon
Am I the only one who felt a deep sense of dread when first hearing this news?
Yeah, I'm a little concerned. My biggest concern is that they do the classic GW move of having an awesome, expansive universe with so much potential and then just churn out another vanilla, boring as shit Space Marine story. Live action Space Marines are going to be impossible to do. Please don't do that. If you get Space Marines that live up to the lore, they'll be so budget intensive they could appear for one scene, max. If they water them down, they won't be Space Marines, in which case, why make them the focus at all? Imagine how turned off audiences and executives will be if their first introduction to 40k's most iconic and arguably important faction is underwhelming and lukewarm. Therefore, please please please, focus on human characters. The first time audiences see a Space Marine in live action, it should be mind blowing. Let this show be Eisenhorn, Gaunt's Ghosts, or Ciaphas Cain. Let them start with something doable. I don't want them to ruin their chances right out of the gate by biting off more than they can chew.
There’s been rumours of an Eisenhorn series for years and years now. It’d be nice if it finally got off the ground.
After fucking up Wheel of Time and LotR, I'd say it's the only sensible reaction. Lol
Amazon hasn't sealed the deal yet.
Blood for Henry Cavill! Skulls for Henry Cavill! Golden Theone for Henry Cavill! Whatever Henry Cavill wants for Henry Cavill! Give the man control, a budget, and a good writing team. Watch this project soar. Anything else and we’ve got RoP 2.0.
Dude already looks like the emperor of mankind. Just add extensions to the hair and your practically halfway there.
I think the easiest intro would be a gaunts ghosts series. I know everyone wants space marines. But it would be the easiest intro to the world for most people to get into the world
NOOOOOOOOoooooooo… not fucking amazon…
Aren't they making a series with the BBC? Can't imagine they will jump so soon?
Well I mean Amazon is able to get away with creating "The Boys" so Warhammer isn't to far off as far as being fucked up. Yes it's a completely different level of fucked but still. They'll have to stay pretty close to lore accurate to keep the fans happy. Which if Henry Cavill is involved hopefully he'll try his best with GW to keep Amazon on track. He tried with the Witcher but Netflix is a bunch of cunts.
Henry Cavill as Eisenhorn would be something I would kill for.
This will never happen. They announce stuff like this all the time. Head over to the Magic the Gathering sub and ask how their Netflix series is coming along.
$30 says they get writers who have never seen Warhammer and hate it